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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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January 21, 2021 - 6:21pm

#4721

proudfoot

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love your comment about liking licorice, Vguy

:)))
January 21, 2021 - 2:24pm

#4722

Vguy72

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comparing Keith & Donna's last and Brent's first....

....fun fact. They repeated eight songs.
That being said, comparing the Passenger's alone is....interesting.
January 21, 2021 - 9:57am

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billy the kid

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Rock thing ,great write up

Rock thing , that is a great write up on 2/17/79 you did. Big Railroad Blues hadn't been played since 1974.
January 21, 2021 - 9:29am

#4724

rockthing

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2/17/79 Second Set

PROUDFOOT, RE relieved to move on: Sounds about right.

BILLY THE KID: Nice. I thought that Greatest Story does seemed special, too. It's got tight energy, but I also don't recall hearing a Greatest Story with that free-form a guitar solo from Jerry. I was definitely startin' to think I could go for a bit more fidelity on this show, too.

THE GOOD OLE GRATEFUL DEAD: Yeah, man, from Playin' on, it's anybody's guess. The tape I Downloaded has that tracked as "Playin' >", "Drums >", "Space >", like you say. Playin' isn't really known for its drum solos, but I think I'd just keep all that as Playin' until they made a definitive move into The Wheel. I realize that no one else would ever do that. There's just Space all over the second set after Playin'. The Wheel disintegrates into Shakedown. That Shakedown back into Playin', though, eh? Definitely the stuff. You can hear Jer hinting at Playin' quite a while before they actually get there. Would not want to be responsible for seeding that. Where do I cut it?!?! :)

Man, this second set jumps like a Willys in four wheel drive.

Might as Well!!!: Went to a Dead show and a Jerry Band gig broke out! Yeah! Rocketing out the gate for the second set. Might as well. This show has a seriously stacked set list imo.

Miracle: Damn. No chance to catch your breath tonight! Jerry’s soaring, then doing some crazy runs in the first solo. Pretty manic, really, just trying to make something happen. Nice ending jam too. A drummer seems to be losing his footing or a stick or something, but no one else… Whoa!!!

Bertha!: I don’t think ANYBODY saw THAT coming, least of which the band. Whoever pulled the tempo back to something sensible is a hero, because that was about to set a record. Ohp, gonna get one of those big unison hits goin’? Not yet. Pickin’ up the pace again. Phil is not giving up on the big bang… unnnnn… not quite….hahaha. Phil’s still goin’ for it. The drummers are just hittin’ all ones like they're wired as hell. This whole second set is coming off with it’s teeth grinding. Crowd cheers an almost earthquake bass bomb, but Phill still can’t quite get everyone there. Test me! GONG. Got it. Memories starting to clear. Synchronization critical. Sounds like double kicks from the drums. What is this? The lets see how many notes we can play contest?

Good Lovin’: Nice, seamless transition. Just, suddenly their playing Good Lovin’. Nice crescendos. Jerry’s boppin’ along for the solo. One of his more coherent solos so far. They seem to have a better handle on the dynamics now. This is a really, really nice performance of this tune. Bobby’s got just the right atmosphere here. He’s givin’ it everything, but not overblowing. This will be excellent if he keeps the rap under control. No danger of Bobby sellin’ the Brooklyn Bridge. Mickey goin’ crazy with some heavy percussion runs, but they are buried deep in the mix, might not even be goin’ through the main PA. Long cheers ensue. Well deserved. That was excellent. They are taking no prisoners tonight, but that really struck the perfect balance. Wouldn't normally gush over Good Lovin', but that was excellent. At this point, I think I’d almost be wishing for five minutes of tuning.

Heart of Me. Ahh, nice farewell for Donna. Nice little breather for us, too. She sounds really good. Sounds like maybe Jerry missed a chord change and his fills are a little off key at one point early on. Nice little descending flutter from Jer that one of the drummers picks up on, adding some 16th high-hat cymbal to. Wow. Really nice. The ending was superb.

Big Railroad Blues. Jerry came to rock tonight, that’s for sure. Goovin’ on the, which solo is this? They seem to have settled down a bit from the insanity that was the teeth numbing first half of the second set.

Terrapin!: Sorta slips into the hall, almost without being noticed. Not the kind of thunderous greeting it would become accustomed to in later years. This performance seems almost quaint in its simplicity. One of the drummers continues to have happy foot. Cool guitar solo leads everyone out into open space as the various counterpoints begin to emerge, everyone expanding out into their own direction before drifting gently into a little space of equilibrium. Jer’s not quite ready for the big finale. He starts to play the melody that will bring everyone out of their trance, then decides to let the ride get a little more gentle as it drifts along. There it is. Not monumental, just recombining into a gentle reading of the last verse. Ahh.. Jer’s sweet old voice… Nice build up to counting stars, but Jerry’s vocal doesn’t quite soar. Finding the right mix of harmony without building up too dramatically and the finale has begun. This Terrapin seems, somehow, understated, but it’s difficult to say exactly what gives that impression. I mean, Mickey is off the hook as usual. Nice, Phil plays the signature melody line in a high register on the bass instead of Jerry, as Jerry continues to wiggle about with all sorts of lead lines. Mickey gets a bit too tricky for his own good, but that slightly clumsy moment doesn’t trip up anyone else.

Playin’: Just where you’d expect “Drums” to begin, nice call. Not sure I really dig the four on the floor and the open and closed high hat feel for this tune. Don’t have any particular qualms with disco Dead, or the Disco Cowboy things they did, but it feels like it’s tying Playin’ down too much. And, as soon as I type that, the bottom drops out and they out into an open ended Playin’ jam with Jer out in the echoey distance working’ the envelope filter. Really nice atmosphere here. Jerry’s makin’ sure they don’t get back to the song any time soon. Little too much kick drum in the mix is sorta harshin’ my mellow, but always happy to see a thorough deconstruction of Playin’. …and it seems to be just petering out, but then someone adds some nice textures. Almost sounds like a Fender Rhodes, but I can still hear Keith plunking away, so maybe it was Bobby… Someone in the audience hoping they’ll play I Need A Miracle, forgetting that we already heard that, what seems like several lifetimes ago. Wow. Completely abstract, now. Oh, and there IS a “Drums” track, but this feels like Playin’ with a drum solo (ok, got it), but that Playin’ jam would have definitely qualified as “Space” in a latter day show, albeit out of conventional order. Still an array of all acoustic percussion. Do I smell a Not Fade Away out of the drum solo? I see that someone has tracked this as a transition into “Space”, but all I hear are drums, still. Not hearing any “Space” here. Oh, and just as I type that, Phil joins the jam with Jerry not too far behind.

The Wheel: This setlist is a dream. Guess they didn’t have to save anything for the next night. This is a nice Wheel. They’ve really settled down into atmospheric mode after the totally outrageous start to the second set. Some cool tremolo picking from Jerry as the song breaks up.

Shakedown: Starts off a little, not a little, really… er… shaky. Nice echo effect on Jer’s guitar. Drummers haul the tempo up from the crater left by Phil’s opening bass bomb. You really get the impression that they are not working with a set list tonight. Settling in a bit just before Jerry starts the first verse. Whoo! Oh, yeah. Dancin’ shoes on now. Such a contrast. First part of set two could barely stay on the rails, but now they’re so spaced out they forget to put their foot down on the accelerator. Not a complaint, at, all. I usually imagine Shakedown jams to be more rhythmic. There’s sill a hint of the groove in the background, but well, there it went. Phil just introduced a completely different groove. Getting loose like that let’s them slip into other things, which is, I think, what’s happening now…. or not… This must be the most abstract Shakedown jam I’ve ever heard. I mean, there are literally hundreds of tapes I’ve never heard, but still. Jerry really working out now. Super fast little tremolo picking like in the high registers. Drums have started driving again. Sounds like Jerry’s teasing a Playin’ Reprise. Did they even do that in the 70s? No doubt. Jerry is definitely hinting at the Playin’ lick. Either they’re taking the long way home or they’ve given up on it. Wow. Jer getting’ pretty avant garde now. Where. Is. This. Going?! Lovin’ it!

Playin’ Reprise: Wow, Jer managed to get everyone on board for a Playin’ reprise after all that. And, damn, does it thunder onto the scene when it finally takes form. Still doin’ that insistent four on the floor thing that makes it feel kind of agro.

Sugar Mag: Love how this comes up for air out of the disintegrating Playin’ reprise. This show has had something for everyone, from super high energy numbers to complete space outs. Even with the free form mood that took over in the second half of the set, this is nice and tight; moving right along. Everyone in. Bobby thanks Bill Graham.

One More Saturday Night: Solidly above par. Wailing sayonara for Keith and Donna. I’m exhausted. What a show!
January 21, 2021 - 9:05am

#4725

Vguy72

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4.22.79 New Kid on the block....

....sounds like he fit right in and liked licorice.
January 21, 2021 - 8:36am

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billy the kid

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2/17/79 4/22/79. Two great shows

2/17/79 & 4/22/79 are two great shows that should be official releases. I went to 2/17/79, it was a benefit to stop environmental cancer called Rock for Life. The show started with the lights all on in the house as the Dead blasted out a killer version of Greatest Story. The version of Don't Ease Me In was great, they reworked it when Brent joined the band and it was never the same. I didn't make 4/22/79, it was my moms birthday, we were having a party. Charlie Daniels and Greg Kihn were both on the bill before the Dead. It's so nice to hear Brent's organ playing on Jack Straw for the the first time. The Dead seemed really pumped up and into it for the whole show. This show at Spartan Stadium wasn't to far away from where the Dead played their first show as the Grateful Dead, at the San Jose Acid Test on 12/4/65.
January 21, 2021 - 8:23am

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rockthing

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2/17/79 First Set

Wow. I remember thinking this was a really upbeat show considering it was Keith and Donna's last, but they must have given them one hell of a going away party. It is all goin' off in, like, every direction. I was exhausted just listening to it. This show goes from absolutely manic teeth grinding rockers and old timey tunes that barely hold it together to some seriously out there space jams. You'd have to label this with, like, three "Space" tracks if you were inclined to breaking things down as much as possible.

I already had the Bob Menke AKG source in my music library, so I was listening to that. Not checking the set list. Can’t remember what it was, other than Donna gets to sing a lot, iirc. Here and there saw the song title pop up. Sound is pretty thin. Really need to crank it.

Greatest Story: Usually like this as an opener. Jer seems to have carte blanche once his solo starts. Always a good idea in my book. Really searching and experimental as the four on the floor drives away behind him. Isn't this tune usually a little more cut and dry?

What’s Bobby saying’ about technical adjustments? Had to reach for the volume control, but still couldn’t make it out.

Don’t Ease: Damn sure am glad I left the volume where it was after that announcement. Love this tune. Haha. Oh, yeah, this must be when Bobby was learning to play slide on the job.

Mama Tried: Love this one too! Seems like there might actually be a bit too much energy, if there is such a thing. Seem to be just barely holding’ it together.

Mexicali: Despite the fact that it’s Keith’s last show, he’s been really prominent in the mix so far. Departing gift? Emotive delivery from Bobby. Jerry’s chorus vocals are really standing out too, for better or worse. This is pre-MIDI, obviously, but damn, Jer’s guitar sounded just like a trumpet for a minute there. Read somewhere about Branford Marsalis commenting that Jerry didn’t need MIDI to make his guitar sound like another instrument. This may be the proof. Can’t believe I have so much to say about Mexicali Blues!

Friend of the Devil: Chill slow tempo version. Some weird polyrhythmic syncopation goin’ on. Jer starts signing on the wrong beat, but has it together before the first verse is over. Keith gets several choruses for his somewhat aimless piano solo, before giving way to a spirited solo by Jer, who’s playing fast triplets and fluttery phrases over the slow tempo before bringing everyone in smoothly for the last verse and a strong final chorus.

Passenger: Did they ever do this again? Kinda relies on Donna. I don’t keep a Deadbase handy, unfortunately. Someone seems to get a little lost going into the “Only Game in Town” part. Jer slide solo. Bobby’s guitar is pretty much inaudible. I think the sense of roughness I’m feeling is due to both lack of rhythm guitar and Jerry trying to double on slide and normal fretted runs. It’s a tough juggling act. Pretty wild ride, this one. Stretchin’ out the second solo. Thought they were gonna end it in a jam, but someone brings it back to sing one more chorus before the ending, but it appears the memo did not circulate widely. Donna seems to be the only one who managed to get back to the chorus on time, but everyone recovers beautifully to end. I read that Phil wrote this song because he wanted to hear some raunchy guitar playing from Jerry and Bob. Well, he got it that time.

High Time: Wow. That's not something I normally expect to hear. Nice, delicate interplay from everybody. Pretty difficult song, actually. Not surprising it didn't see much action on stage.

Looks like Rain: Never really warmed up to this tune. That said, sometimes it gets stuck on repeat in my head and no matter what I do, I cannot stop hearing it… What the hell’s with those loud snare hits? lol My guess is that prankster Mickey, but who knows? Still laughing. Sounds like someone wants to pick up the tempo a bit. This is actually a pretty sensitive rendering of this song.

Jack a Roe: Electric! There’s something else ya don’t hear every day. Man, this show is absolutely stacked with tunes I totally love. Again, can’t hear Bobby’s guitar at all. Keith has been reigned into the mix better at this point. Phil’s givin’ it his all playing in and out of Jerry’s first solo. Ahh.. there’s Bob. Welcome to the show, dude. Sounds like only one drummer at this point, too. Pretty sparse, but then again, as much as I love this tune, there’s not a whole lot for everyone to do.

Lazy Lightning/Supplication: Period piece. Dunno why Bobby gave up on so many of his old tunes in favor of blues numbers, and Dylan covers. Donna sounds strong here. I believe I read that she and Keith actually wanted out at this point, so perhaps that contributes to the sense of jubilance (not a word apparently) here and Keith’s relative engagement. Jerry really, really, flying again. Float in’ like a butterfly, stinging’ like a bee. Phil senses blood and a jamming frenzy ensues. I guess if Bobby never cued them to go back into the song everyone else’d just go on forever like that…hmmmm…. It is so manic at this point, I don’t see how you could even dance to it. Spinners’d be achieving physical lift off, I think, depending on the robustness of their skirts.
January 21, 2021 - 7:46am

#4728

proudfoot

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Tonight on "Wha'appen?":

My theory is the agreement to part ways happened, everyone was relieved about it, so they made 2/17/79 special.
January 21, 2021 - 7:35am

#4729

The Good Ole G…

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Grateful Dead Memories

2/17 is good stuff.

Based on what I was reading, Donna mentions her & Keith discussing leaving the band through out the last tour. So maybe it was agreed upon between 2/11 in St. Louis & 2/17 in Oakland. Just speculating.

In regards to Tracking, since Rockthing brought that up....
I'm feeling it as Playing In The Band > Drums > Space > Wheel > Shakedown Street > Playing In The Band Jam > Reprise.
The Jam after Shakedown seems to turn into a PITB jam at around 12:30.
I like to give PITB as much labeling as possible, so that I'll pick that show out and listen to it again.
PITB rules.
(All of the above is killer! Listen to Jerry's voice in Terrapin & The Wheel segue is sweet, but that jam from Shakedown into Playing Jam is the stuff.)

Alright, I feel I'd not be performing my obligation to the nation if I didn't mention the 4/17/79 Rehearsal tape as a potential listen before you blast off into 4/22/79.

I gotta do it.

Keep on Rocking, Rockers.

PS - 2/9/73 was one of my first 3 bootleg tapes, it still gets me every time, so I'm with ya on that Jim.
Mickey was right they were into Time Travel.
January 21, 2021 - 7:02am

#4730

JimInMD

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Tapes / Spartan Stadium and Maples Pavilion

I remember dropping off a 10 pack of TDKs with an acquaintance. I got 4/22/79 Spartan Stadium, 2/9/73 Maples Pavilion and 06/29/76 Auditorium Theater - Chicago in the same box. They contained their share of new songs (with Spartan Stadium, not so much songs but a new keyboard player).

I ended up getting a few more boxes from the same friend before geography and time brought that to an end. I have a crystalline memory of these first listens, like opening up another world of shows, songs and peeks into parts of eras I had no prior exposure into. Like Christmas morning..

In my mind all the shows from that glorious 10 pack take up the same real estate in my frontal lobe. Funny how memories work, especially grateful dead memories.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

6/12/1980

Started this morning and getting back to it now. Sound quality is really good. Thanks GOGD. Charlie Miller, the Dead should hire him!

Great show, Lost Sailor-SOC, yes. Scarlet Fire, really good. Again these shows have a different vibe. Give me some more 1979-80.

Otis, yes, I think we have moved to unofficial releases in the mix. We should be able to get a good mix of both official and unofficial.

For me personally, if the sound quality is not great, I will just pass. I spent way too much time in 1980s listening to marginal cassettes to not enjoy the treasures Dick, Dave and Co have blessed us with in the last 20 plus years.

Have a good night all.

Well Oiled Machine

PITB > UJB. You can tell when all the cylinders are firing cleanly. Very nice.

Can't wait for the Dew.

5/11/91

I am late watching this tonight, but holy shit this is good. We get a Half Step, on of my favorites Wang Dang Doodle, Queen Jane, Bird Song. Sounds really good in my system. Love Phil's turtle neck sweater looks sweet. Jerry is looking and playing really well. Maybe 91 is underated?

We definitely still need some Shoreline shows released.

91

Perhaps the last "consistently" good year. Bruce brought energy and professionalism and seemed to inspire Jerry.

When Jerry's voice held out and he and Bruce were on, it could be very, very good.

Fun Stuff

Some good listening this week.

Thanks for checking out the 6/12/80 upgrade with me yesterday.
I'd only previewed it but that was the first time I had a chance to really listen to it and it's a big improvement over the skeevy out of phase SBD that circulated previously until this month.
Nice way to celebrate that shows 30th anniversary with a newly restored recording. (Thanks Charlie!)
Cheers and thanks for tripping through it with me.

Last night's Shakedown Stream was fun. Haven't paid much attention to that show and video hasn't been released so it was almost like seeing / hearing it for the first time and I dug it. Especially liked that Bird Song, OMSN S2 opener (I knew you'd be stoked VGUY) and the PITB > UJB.

You can definitely hear how much Bruce drove the band in that period, but you could see it too last night.
And yes Spring - Summer '91 has some hidden gems in there for sure.
It's fun digging through that stuff to find them, cause they're quite surprising and refreshing and make you want to hunt for more:)

Dug 5/28/77 To Terrapin relisten.. but was still coming down from 10/12/68 and was a bit distracted, I'm not sure why I've never given that release as much attention as it deserves, great show, great artwork, PITB, May '77.. and yet I forget about it. Thanks for the reminder, it's a cool release.

And I dug going back to Shoreline '90 this week too.. Summer '90, that was fun!

Some how this morning I stumbled into Summer '93.. 6/6/93 to be exact. It's pretty fun so far.
BTW speaking of digging for treasure. There's a cool pocket of surprisingly good shows from December '92 - June '93.

It's not Plinky Keys but it's the GOGD and it's fun.
(What do you call Vince's keyboard sound btw, Clown Town?)

Alright, who's listening to what today?

Yea.. I double vision that

What's in store for today? No show yet?

Who's in charge anyway.. we have become completely dependent on you kind folks to pick the shows for us today.. I'd like to speak to the person in charge please!!

Somebody throw out a date.. and one that has some umph as I am in the beginning stages of what will be come a summer long home improvement project. Productivity is key. :D

Many thanks.

If we are not sick of 1980.. I have an idear, but you guys are doing such a good job I hate to interfere with a good thing.

Just as I thought

Nobody's in charge. Nobody for president? (said in my best 1984 voice).

How about either Dave's Picks 8 or one of the two RFK shows that were released last year or the year before or something from the Giants Box?? Dave's #8 is fantastic and haven't heard much about it lately, but if we have already had our fill of 1980, how about a quite decent late 80's multi-track?

Just spitballing.. until this nobody person stands up and show's some real leadership.

Just as I thought

Nobody's in charge. Nobody for president? (said in my best 1984 voice).

Just spitballing.. until this nobody person stands up and show's some leadership.

today's pick

Yes, Jim we have a leadership vacuum. Like a herd of cats. Dave's 8 sounds great and so do the Giants box shows, maybe 91 would be good after last nights Shakedown. I wonder why the Charlotte 12/10/73(DL8) show never gets any love. Anyone have any thoughts on this show? I don't remember any discussions of this show ever. It looks great on paper: fall 73, in between the celebrated Cleveland and Tampa shows, a charming southern city. Why no love?

The Situation Is The Boss

You know I really like listening to Steve Parish!

Alright, I like where this is going:)

And it would Appear that the Situation is making leaders appear.

In regards to what is mentioned here, I like the sound of 12/10/73 as like stated, that is overlooked for sure, I had to go look and see. Let's do it!

1980-11-30 - DaP V8 was picked way back in April 19th 2020 based on my notes, and '73 is good for Home Repairs :)

Nice work you guys, you are Boss!

Shall we go
12/10/73?
While we can..

Good thing GOGD is keeping notes

No repeats necessary when there is such a plethora to choose from.

Happened to fire up 6-17-91 in the car last night coming home from work, and now I’m about to go to the grocery store, so I will continue listening. Won’t finish the show today so the remainder will be driving on Monday.

Sounds like 12-10-73 will be my grilling and beering music tonight.

Grilling & Beering

CONEKID!
Yeah, I had a lapse for a month, and regretted it when I went to catch up. So now I'm on the daily.

Need to put it into Excel file or Google Docs or something.

Maybe one of you geeks can recommend a good method on that
(BTW don't anyone take that personally, I'ma geek too, look who's taking notes ;)

12/10/73 Promised Land here I come!
(after some nice Set 1 ditties and a 21 Minute PITB that is)

12/10/73

Yes! why not - let's give this underdog a chance! Queueing up for today's outdoor quarantine escape. (I love using the word "queue"!)

Awesome...

12.10.73 it is. It looks like someone is in charge.

# Someone 2020.

Ended up listening to NRPS while I made breakfast. Did an outdoor project and carried it out with me. Palate change over, time for GOGD.

12/10/73

12/10/73 it is. Never heard this show.

We also did the RFK shows a while back.

But we should definitely take a look at the Giants box again.

Fun Facts

Here's your up to the minute 12/10/73 report:

Released Dec. 6, 2005

Features a majority of this show.
Prior to release the show didn't circulate.
The last three songs showed up in circulation in 2002.

Missing 5 songs reportedly due to sub par sonics as follows:
Set 1 - Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, El Paso, BEW
Set 2 - MAMU

First Peggy-O
First Split Sugar Magnolia

Fun lil show. (for '73 in the '90s this woulda been a Monster:)

Definitely dug the PITB, Eyes > Brokedown (shoulda done that more often.. ie like every time).

Enjoy!

Well

In my defense, I sometimes have a hard time keeping up. ..but come to think of it I believe I caught most of DaP 8 and forgot.

Ok, done my chores, made dinner and cleaned up.. time to relax. I think I might open a bottle of red, chill and get into this show.

DaP 8....

....mkay

12/10/73

Thanks for the notes, GOGD. They fill in some crucial gaps. I wondered what the heck was the deal with the Peggy-O. Now it makes sense, it was a first performance. Then Weir interrupts with " have a safe and sane 4th". There must have been some real fireworks for Bobby to interrupt like that. An excellent Deal, with Keith's piano the highlight for me.
The PITB sounded a bit tentative to me on a first listen, like everyone was waiting for something to happen. But Garcia's shimmering liquid tone is in fine 1973 form. I liked it better on a second listening. Keith switches to electric near the end and Phil gets more aggressive. I'll need to spend some more time with this one!
A fine Row Jimmy, now onto set 2...

Thank Goodness Gulum is on top of things

And without GOGD, we would be lost.

(I like being lost, I seek it).

12/10/73

Yes, it's a fine lil show. I guess its fair to say it doesn't quite reach the heights of our favorite 73 shows. I think the PITB is essential, but then I think that of every 73 PITB I've ever heard. It's nice to listen to an earthbound 73 show occasionally. I think it gives some context for the stratospheric shows.

Holy Anniversary Bat Man!

There are a lot of shows in circulation that happened on June 14th.
And all of them are looking pretty darn good.
Here are my top anniversary suggestions for a possible pick of the day today -
6/14/84 Red Rocks
6/14/85 Greek (20th Anniversary show)
6/14/91 VFTV II

I'm leaning toward 6/14/85 at the Greek, cuz I love '85 and it's 35th Anniversary of their 20th Anniversary show.. which that starts to twist my mind on how strange that is.

Anyhow.. here's a list of recordings of shows played on this day in history.

Releases:
6/14/68 - Fillmore 69 Box (One Bonus Song = Caution)
6/14/76 - June 76 Box (Relistened 5/26/20, I think)
6/14/91 - VFTV II

SBD:
6/14/69
6/14/84
6/14/85
6/14/87
6/14/92
6/14/94

AUD Only:
6/14/68 (partial)
6/14/80

So do you want to Get Rocked at Red Rocks '84, Peak At The Greek '85, Rip It Up at RFK '91, or are you Seeking The Beacon '76.

Or is there another clever rhyme you wanna make up for what you're gonna listen too?

Anyhow, there it is, btw the Audience of 6/14/68 at Fillmore West is really quite cool and pretty damn good for '68 (meaning rough, but if you're a head you can do it)... Early St. Stephen (Actually The Eleven > St. Stephen!), Alligator > Lovelight > Caution... Far out. Summer '68 is very underrepresented.. no tapes, but an intrepid traveler managed to tape this one :)

Great Pick yesterday Gollum, I gave it the once over twice and really enjoyed it!

6/14/85

6/14/85 Greek Theatre it is GOGD.
Started and it is sounding good. Thanks!

Grilling and beering with 12-10-73

It was a good time, sitting on the deck, quaffing Oberons.....
Had several, now don’t really remember that much about the show except that I liked the PITB and wondered if it would be possible to clean up this show with a Plangent remaster.
Put that on the to do list for after remaining unreleased quality reels get the Plangent/Norman treatment.

Going to do more sitting in the deck today and roast some coffee beans.

It was 55 Years Ago Today.. Sgt. Pepper Told The Band To Play

Goin' To Peak At The Greek!

6/14/85 has always been a favorite of mine..

I was having a hard time narrowing it down to 3.. Love that Red Rocks '84 too.

Stoked!

ICECRMCNKD - Haha.. Grilling and Beering will do that! Yeah, I listened to that PITB 3 times and the Eyes > Brokedown, digging that stuff fo sure.

And away we go.

Never Take Your Eyes Off The Guy To Your Left Or Your Right

It’s Nice To Be Doing Something…

Always really liked the Pre-Show Press Conference for this show -
https://archive.org/details/gd1985-06-14.148769.nak700.severson.miller…

Susanna Millman mentions the great picture of the band she took glaring at the press after the stupid question about drugs. I wish I would've picked up a copy of her out-of-print Alive With The Dead book.... darn.

Susana states -
The reporter next to me (clearly not a DeadHead) questioned them as to whether they were on drugs, and they ignored his repeating this question twice but when he got really loud the third time, they all stared directly at him, faces stone cold but on the verge of cracking up!

I've been looking for a good quality video of the Press conference, I've got some skeevy excerpts.
If anybody has a line on that, lmk.

The Miller upgrade from 2016 of this is sounding good -
https://archive.org/details/gd1985-06-14.135656.sbd.miller.flac1648

Alright, have fun!

6/14/85

I enjoyed that interview! especially the parts about the passage of time and the Wagner. I remember really liking this show back in the day...I'll plan on spinning it later.

Today's Pick

How does 3/28/73 sound to you all?

Dave's Picks #16.

6/14/85, fun show. Enjoyed it. Sound quality from the version I listened to from relisten was good. Different version of Dancing. Truckin, Smokestack Lighting!

Dave's 16

Cumberland opener? Sounds good to me!

Greek 85 was a blast!

This is the best place on the internet.

Peace

Cumberland opener

The mix is spotty on the board, right in a place where Jerry is starting to catch fire. I'll have to check out the AUD. Anyone know if there is a good matrix of this one?

Gotta Get Down

'73 sounds good to me!

WILFREDTJONES - There's a Matrix, but the audience recording of Cumberland is missing the first 4 minutes or so, so not sure it would fix your ills.

https://archive.org/details/gd1973-03-28.sbd.mtx.tobin.86833.sbeok.flac…

Looking forward to this one and might have to try and revisit Night 2 of the Greek '85, I know I wanna hear Night 3 tomorrow...

Happy Monday!

RE: OROBOROUS Shoreline?

OB - Are you gonna Anniversary Trip Shoreline '90 this week?

Might try and get in there.. sheeeeaattt there's too much Dead to listen too!

Love that problem.

3/28/73

My last east coast Grateful Dead concert. Very rowdy crowd that night.

STRIDER

Last one on the East Coast.

Was that a conscious decision based on your experience at the show?

As usual, is there more to this story.. inquiring minds would like to know for our readers ;)

BTW - Thanks to the nice "Trail" you left me, I believe I have found the appearances.
Still having trouble picking you out in the Grateful Dead Movie.
Thanks Man, that was fun!

GOGD 6/15

Yeah, going to try and do Shoreline 90, and Greek 85...but damn the Scooby Doo house is perhaps my favorite Dave’s so...Doooaahh! I have so much “grown up” shit I need to do, including phone calls, but I’ll try and at least throw em on while I’m working...I’ll prolly give one the full treatment, the question is which one!

EDIT: dug 6/14/85 yesterday. Don’t think I’ve ever heard the first set, I’ve had the second set probably since 85 or 86, another gem picked up from ole Fred and Barry out at Sundance books back in downtown metropolitan Geneseo NY. Buzzo’s Music store used to be next door. Buzzo was a real character, his commercials were like “Buzzo, Buzzo, Buzzo”, and he had the best prices on JBL E 120 guitar speakers (what Jerry used).
Don’t think Buzzo is still there but I believe Sundance is....man that’s going back a ways in the ole memory bank, good times. Used to spark one up and take the leisurely country drive with ole Chuck to get fresh tapes from Sundance, kinda like Christmas!

RUH-ROH!

Jinkies!

Don't be scared Shaggy, but that's a lot of Dead

Scooby Doo house, that's too funny :)

Scooby Doo house

I think Keithfan 2112 came up with that.? He likes to name shows...

C'Mon Gang We've Got A Mystery To Solve

RE: OB - I like Source information, especially if it reads:

Soundboard > Master Reel > Dat.

Nice One Keithfan.. if you are indeed the originator of this funny little ditty.

I'm In

I love this show. One of my favorite Dave's picks. Scooby Doo House indeed.

Waterbury

This must sound fucking boring by now. If you look at the Waterbury concert page from a few years ago I wrote about being there those two nights, let me reiterate . I had been living in western Oregon after high school graduation that summer. My amazing mom died a few days before the Waterbury shows from cancer. Had to winter in Ct. to help my grieving WW-2 vet father (mess Sargent in Patton’s army). Very difficult time for me being only 18.
First day of Waterbury I rode up with friends Don H and Tom B. Went to a rodeo the afternoon before the concert that night. A rodeo in Connecticut of all places. A couple hours before the show I knocked on the back stage door and talked with Joe Winslow , told him I’d been living in Oregon and he let me in. I’m sitting in the empty theater when Ron Rakow looks at me and says to Winslow “who the fuck is this?”. And Joe Winslow tells him “back off! He’s a good guy”. Joe being one of the Pendleton boys looked out for me. I guess he appreciated me having been in Oregon for a few weeks. On a side bar Ken Kesey once talked about all the Grateful Dead roadies who were natives of Pendleton and joked about writing a book about them called “Place of Dead Roadies”, a spoof on the William Burroughs book “Place of Dead Roads”. The second night I showed up soon before they opened the doors and my friends Greg and the Weibel sisters who had been sitting in line for several hours let me cut in with them. In my post from several years ago I had the opening song listed wrong, but it was the only Dead show I ever attended when the Dead were on the stage playing as people first started streaming in, running to find good seats. Schwing (real name) and Bolton were also there. I went home after with my first love Cricket. Fast forward to early April 73 when I made it back to the promised land and then returned to Oregon. “We come with the dust and go with the wind”.
Now how do I collect 13 years of my posts off this site to put under one cover.

One last note. Dave Chapelle 8:46 on YouTube has gotten 17 million views in three days since he posted it. Extremely powerful!
Will make grown man cry.

GOGD/6/15/90

Maybe best of the Cali June 90 so far? Seemed a little more energized than Cal Expo? Remember nothing of this one, but not sure why (yeah right!) as it’s a good one. Good H-S-F opener, Desolation Row, rest of the usual suspects all good...
2nd: nice Scarlet/Fire, Blow Away ok, but perhaps like Hornsby was saying last Friday about his and other songs, sometimes, eventually, the band was starting to be a tad over this one? Same with 7/16/90, it’s ok, but this song definitely seemed to peak in 89, imho...same with this Women Are, good, but not quite up with the 89s?, did dig the weird jam though. Didn’t get to engage in the rest as much, had it cranked doing housework... but don’t recall anything notable, either pro/con, just another solid, enjoyable 90 show! Lol, makes that sound like a bad thing! Words...we should be able to communicate without them!
Ok, on to 6/15/85, not sure I’ll get to Scooby Doo house today, but I listen to that one often so no biggie.

Tomorrow 6/16/85, and video of 6/16/90 tomorrow night in the theatre...in case anyone’s interested..

STRIDER

It's not boring to me!

Must've been such a great time to be seeing shows.

Still kicking around Oregon?

Always been fascinated with the Oregon Dead connection and the impact Kesey and fam had on the 60s, San Francisco, and Oregon. Pretty wild stuff. That guy having so much impact on our world.

It was cool to watch Sunshine Days again, it'd been awhile.

And speaking of impact, 8:46 is definitely a heavy trip. Powerful stuff for sure.

RE: OROBOROUS 6/15/90

The last notes of JBG from the ole Scooby Doo house just faded out. That show is sick! One of the better DaPs?

So you helped me decide what up next. Best of Cali June '90 so far.. I like the sound of that.
The bands tuning up as we speak, write, whatever you call this.
You probably called this based on the tuning.. sounds like some excited fans know what to expect.

Yeah, looking forward to 6/16/85 fo SURE... first Cryptical since 9/23/72 Waterbury CT.
Was just talking about that show with STRIDER.
Ah serendipity

I was debating King Solomon’s Marbles for my Top 10 too, couldn't decide and figured I should add some songs with lyrics. But it's up there in the tops for me as well.

What's this theatre you speak of? I need to check out 6/16/90 again too.

This Slipknot! is midi-trippy Good stuff!

Dave's #16 3/28/73

This one seems to get better each time I listen to it. Maybe I am just appreciating the music more?
Almost five years since this was released.
Love the Cumberland opener, then into HCS. Really good. Another wonderful sixteen song first set. Really like this Half Step, Jerry's guitar sounds so pure. WRS prelude into Dark Star, Eyes than Playing! Love this show and you were there Strider, wow, really cool.

We should have Dave's 35 announced in roughly a month. Can't wait. No clue what it will be but I have my money on an eighties release.

Recent listens

As I have been acquiring releases in bunches, two of my recent additions are DP 32 (8/7/82) and DP 21 (11/1/85). I haven't been able to give them a proper listen until recently ( a rare benefit of the the COVID-19 lock down). I have to say I liked them both on the first go around. I knew DP 32 was wrought with sound/mixing issues but overall it was a good show. As for 11/1/85, I dug it and I am finding that I am really liking the 85 shows. In comparison to my usual listening of 69-77 or 89-91 eras, they are good shows, different, but still good. I need to check out the Riverbend 6/24/85 show from 30 Trips. I have heard good reviews on that and it also has a Cryptical.

1985

GRATEFULHAN - There's definitely some good stuff in the early 80s.

And FWIW, Summer '85 is a blast.

The 6/24/85 Riverbend release has always been a favorite, but don't stop there.
6/25 Blossom, 6/27 SPAC, 6/28 Hershey Park, 6/30 & 7/1 Merriweather. A highly recommended tour and a really fun run of tapes.

And speaking of, today is the anniversary of 6/16/85 and the brief return of Cryptical Envelopment.

Highly recommended because it's fun!

DEADVIKES - Calling an '80s release for the next DaP?
You heard it here first folks!

OROBOROUS - Dude, dug 6/15/90. Especially that interesting jam after He's Gone into Drums. Fast paced Scarlet > Fire and the opening HSF were tops. Good times!!

Alright, started up the 6/16/85 show and Bob's talkin' Walkin' Blues and it sounds fresh.. because it is in '85.

Summer 85

Gratefulhan: what GOGD said! And don’t forget 7/13/85, at least the first set. The band, the hills around them, everything’s on FIRE! If nothing else, be sure to check out 6/27,28,30, but the whole tour is good. Summer 85 is like this nice little oasis between the eras you mention. I’m extremely biased because it was probably my most fun year, but I love the music too, worts and all. There’s something dangerous and exciting. They often really go for it and at times your sure their going to jump the track, but they usually pull it off. I guess it’s they A++ for effort versus safe but perfect execution?

Ok, have to finish 6/15/85, then the mighty 6/16/85, and later, I’m going fire up the 6/16/90 DVD tonight on the big screen.

Greek Box

I know that it has been mentioned numerous times in the past, but it is WAY past due for TPTB to collect these Greek shows, shine em' up, and give us a Greek Box, a la The Giants Box. Looking at their history, they could go in a number of ways. I would like to see maybe 2 boxes, Greek 1: 1981-1985, and Greek 2: 1986-1989. Choose the BEST overall show from each year, 4 shows per box.

Or, make it a bigger box with all 8? I don't know, but I do know that I want it. Or hell, it looks like they played the Greek 27 times...

This 85 show is slaying me right now, and I'm only 4 songs into the 1st set! I'm glad Brent eventually got invited to the party 1/2 through "Walkin's Blues" :) Another hot pick!

Peace

EDIT: I suppose Box 1 would be 5 shows, not 4... maybe add a fifth show from 86-89 to even it out :)

RE: Greek Box

OTIS - Glad you're peaking at the Greek with us.

So upon revisiting these old favorites from Berkeley June '85 I've decided the following:
Are they the hottest thing ever? No.
Does Jerry's voice sound pretty shot? Yes.
Is it the bands 20th Anniversary and despite adversity and multiple challenges do the band rise to meet the occasion? Yes.
Do they break out Cryptical Envelopment after 13 years of not playing it on the last night of the run? Yes, yes they do.
Are these 3 shows enjoyable? Definitely.

Finishing up Night 2 now.. wasn't able to get to it on it's anniversary. And really all 3 nights are cool.

I'd be slightly disappointed if they chose to release one of these and not the other 2.

That being said, I'm pretty sure the tapes we have are from the Cassette Master which, as far as we know, is what's in the Vault.

So the big question, as I see it, would be how much would the plangent process increase the quality?
And I'd be happy to find out the answer to that question.

I'm not holding my breath. So in the meantime, I say, dust off or grab these 3 SBDs from your nearest Charlie Miller source and open up a copy of the Taper's Compendium V2 and enjoy a little bootleg box set glory!

Ain't no time to wait...

85 Greek continued

6/15&16/85: finished it up 15th this AM. Have had this full show, but only second set of first night, and have never heard the 16th until today! Some what mixed bag like much of 85. “85 is like a box of chocolates, most good, some you get that one ingredient you don’t like, and a few are dosed”) 😎
Though the first and last nights prolly look more sexy on paper: Keep on Growing, last Stagger Lee 82, last Comes a time 80, Set opening Dew, and the Cryptical etc., I think maybe the second night is the best played overall? And we get a FOTD, scorching Might as Well, and of course yet another sweet She Belongs to Me. I’d definitely say it’s between the first 2, as the last night seems less tight? JG definitely having some issues from like Cryptical on..
Yes it’s cool as hell to hear it, (though I want to find a Aud version to hear the crowd go nuts, they sure did in Meriwether!) But Jer does not sound very confident so it’s not all it could be. After something going on? Brokedown ends it on a good note at least.
Yeah, this 16th is a classic 85 roller coaster. Wharf Rat a good example: Jer’s stumbling, but Brents organ and some of Bob and Brents harmonies are amazing. Yeah, shits all over the place sometimes lol.
Never made it to the Greek, but from all accounts and documentation I imagine it was top shelve, so seeing a weekend of these shows at that venue....I can barely imagine. Well it sure was fun. Haven’t really checked these out in a while (or at all), but my recollection is the heart of the summer tour is more so where the meat and potatoes are? Hope to confirm that as I’m going to try and do this tour starting next weekend. I mean what the hell, it’s the 35 anniversary of probably my favorite?, craziest (definitely), most fun (probably), tour!
Tonight Vault View 3 I believe it is, from 6/16/90. Hit the last Shoreline 90 mañana, then need some 70s in between, perhaps revisit the 76 box fir a good deep brain scrub, then everybody into the pwuel, cause summer 85 is back and the time is right for dancin in the streets....unless perhaps your African American cause they’ll look ya up for that shit in some places! Harumph!

EDIT: always glad to have brother Otis along for the ride! The more the merrier eh!