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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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September 24, 2023 - 11:16am

#831

bluecrow

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5-11-72 Rotterdam

I can lose my mind, so to speak, in any show from E72, and a whole lot of shows outside that tour over the many years, but that Rotterdam Dark Star > Sugar Mag > Caution > Trucking > Uncle John's will always be one my favorite passages from any show, any era.

1stShow - check your DMs
September 24, 2023 - 9:08am

#832

Oroborous

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5/16, 18, and 23

NIIIIICCCCCEEEE! Glad to hear you liked 5/11 1stshow. Yeah not exactly sure why that one always resonates so well for me. I hate “favorites” (like the Jim philosophy: last one heard is the favorite etc) and this tour has so many RJs is damn near impossible for me, but this one always just pops into my head when I think of E72!
I’m sure the set list is part of it as you mention in why you liked 5/10 etc, and yes, that Dark Star is mos def RJ!

Though I really dug the 5/18 DS too, hell, who am I kidding, all these DS are top shelf!
I’ve had this show and have definitely spent time with the DS, but it was nice to dig deeper into the rest!
Actually got to give this one a good sit down listen on the big boy stereo, always a plus ; )
Not sure what it was about Germany, but they seemed to step it up each night.
We get another DS but pared nicely here with a decent Dew. Sing Me as part of double encore was nice.
Another nice but rare You Win Again, shame they didn’t keep on with that one? oh, a Sitting On Top!
That was a nice fun addition if not mind blowing.
A reminder of another thing I’ve noticed on the tour: it’s most definitely not the 60s Dead anymore, but they still have those flashback moments, they can still totally get that vibe and energy, and at times, if it wasn’t for the completely different sound they’ve cultivated, you might think it’s the 60s. (Besides the DS/TOO weirdness!)
But it’s not, so they throw down more stellar versions of the new stuff and a perhaps light, but satisfying side o grease.

Ah snap, I skipped 5/16 lol. Well, at this point they are all starting to roll into one, but that becomes helpful when you do hear a particular hot version of something as it seems to stand out enough to distinguish itself from the mob…
Don’t recall much of that on 5/16, just yet another solid well played beauty. First time for this one so I gave it multiple whirls streaming at work. Certainly they were trying to reign it in a bit and keep it tight being on world radio broadcast, though as the tour rolls on nearer the conclusion, I have noticed a loosening up occasionally and perhaps slightly more imperfections, but that’s really taking a hard micro look as even with occasional blemishes these shows are all so good. Of course they had to get at least a little weirdness out there with another trippy TOO. Wonder what that would have been like: to randomly turn on your radio to THAT! Lol.
Interestingly, no Good Lovin again, probably due to time restraints, or the fear of Pig getting to spicy on the radio lol.

Continuing in a haze now with 5/23. I’ve had a copy of this, but it’s missing some tracks and seemed to have songs mixed in from other shows or some weirdness, so I stopped near end of first set and started over streaming. Interesting show as they continue to mix it up and add some new/old stuff in for variety. I didn’t get the best listen in, but it seemed a tiny bit subdued? I don’t know, can’t come up with right word, so I’ll,project. They seem like their relaxing just a bit like they know they’ve got some good stuff in the can so can mix it up and let go a bit? Or not,…? definitely need to hit this again later, but honestly getting burnt not so much on this Dead as not hearing any other eras. Too each their own but I can’t just listen to one kind of Dead exclusively, but that’s just me. But whatever, another great DS/Dew, perhaps a slightly more polished Dew? Oh oh oh, Mr Kotter, can’t forget the best Comes a Time so far, another fun Sittin On Top!,
They mix it up with a fun Rockin Pneumonia (dedicated to my cousin Eecktar who’s currently laid up in a Hawaiian hospital with pneumonia and Covid as he’s been their working on some recording studio).
As I say, not the best listen but all good, another enjoyable show!
Ok, on to 5/24. This has been an elusive one. I remember being a POTD but only could find aud copy so skipped it, actually a couple times, but today we’re soldiering on and gonna finish it. Since I’ve heard so much about this one I’ll probably give it multiple whirls and check it out on Spotify at work (for better audio) for a couple days before I move on to the big 5/25 beast. So that’s where I’ll be for a bit, until next time,
ONWARD!

EDIT: Ha who says there’s no Dead heads in this tour! Ya can hear one singing and humming along at points on this 5/24 aud lol so there was at least one, and Murphy’s law he’s standing right near the mics lol
September 23, 2023 - 4:43pm

#833

1stshow70878

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5-10-72 Amsterdam (+ 5-11 Rotterdam)

I really liked this one. Part of that may have been a good focused late night listen. Mix was slightly different with more Bob, maybe less Keith? That highlighted by Bob's interesting work in China>Rider too. They attempted to slow the tempo in the Rider part but not everyone caught the drift there. Maybe I liked it for the set list and song order again which I found appealing in more than one of the tour so far. It does seem to be the difference some times in what I perceive as a good show. Highlights: Loser, Big Boss Man, TOO which was extended and very spacey (one part had the cat looking at me like WTF?) in the first go, then a little jazzy Keith, then a lengthy somewhat quiet interlude before >Bobby McGee>TOO again. Maybe the best Sing Me Back Home so far of the tour. And a sweet but shorter Sugar Mag> NFA> GDTRFB> NFA again to end. Again DeadbaseX way off with setlist out of order and missing songs. Not really counting on that being right anymore. Still plugging away with Rotterdam next but may get stalled Mon. - Tue. with a trip to the Four Corners region. Need us some slickrock and petroglyphs before the weather starts turning.
Cheers
Edit: 5-11-72 Rotterdam. Jeez- Louise! I can see why Oro said this might be his favorite EU72. The whole 1st set is at that slow, let's get this perfect pace and is another killer set that starts with a Playin' so you know it's going to be good. Then this 2nd set starts with a Dew and is monumental with the best DS so far and one that is now in my top 5 of all time and the 2nd set jammed portion runs like 75 minutes! The final Caution/Who Do You Love is a great way to end that song's run. I googled best show of EU72 and this one came up often and is in the top 3 or 4 in most lists. Just a wowzer.
September 23, 2023 - 6:06am

#834

daverock

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Icecrmcnkd

Crumbs...sorry, I wasn't expecting that for an answer. Thanks for the heads up - nice that them upstairs read these posts.
September 23, 2023 - 4:24am

#835

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Daverock

The September GD Bulletin came out yesterday in an email.
At the end there is a section Community Bits that briefly summarizes what it being discussed on these boards.

It says:

In the Pick of the Day, With Discussion thread, Daverock raises the interesting point that for Europe ’72, there weren’t so many Dead Heads in the audience — and that affected the band’s playing. Maybe for the better? What do you think?
September 23, 2023 - 3:22am

#836

daverock

Joined:
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Icecrmcnkd

Sorry - I'm not sure what that means!
September 22, 2023 - 3:00pm

#837

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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GD Bulletin

Daverock gets the call out.
September 22, 2023 - 2:43am

#838

daverock

Joined:
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Bickershaw and repetition

1stshow -no, I have never heard Hawkwind's set at Bickershaw. Curiously, I have never read anything about it either, not from the band or from people who were there. Simonrob was there - maybe he knows something.
1972 was the year it all came together for Hawkwind, culminating in the Space Ritual tour in December. In fact - a timely thought - the 11 cd special deluxe edition of Space Ritual is out next Friday. Probably not good value for money unless you are really into it - they basically played the same set on that tour wherever they played - this new set features three of them. I'll be getting it - but the original album may be better value overall.

Going back to The Dead's repetitive - or otherwise - song lists - they would have played to a different audience every night, for the most part, during E72, so maybe it mattered less than later on if they played the same songs a lot. Maybe that was the case for American gigs at first, too. It wasn't common practice in England in the 1970's to see the same band twice on the run, so I wouldn't think it was in America at first. As teenager, apart from anything else, I wouldn't have been able to afford it.
September 21, 2023 - 8:50pm

#839

JimInMD

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Repetitive, Sort of..

With the exception of Copenhagen and London, they hit these cities just once and my guess is most locals had not had any real exposure to the touring Grateful Dead. Copenhagen is the real outlier, two hits at the same venue and similar second set setlists.

I always assumed they wanted to make a presence in Europe and knowing people were not as exposed in the US, wanted to paint a strong picture for each city.

So 51 years later listening to the whole tour, there is lots of repetition. But if you were there then, it was all brand new. That's how I digested it. They wanted to hit Europe with a cohesive picture of what they were doing then not knowing when or if they would return.
September 21, 2023 - 3:23pm

#840

Oroborous

Joined:
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RE: repetition

Yeah they always went heavy on what was new. Guessing partly for their own sanity/interest, and partly for the crowds.
Not unlike Taylor Swift etc: make an album, go on the road to support it, rinse and repeat…of course like most things, they weren’t that formulaic, thank goodness lol. Plus, they were smart enough to figure out that it’s better to work stuff out on the road BEFORE you go into the studio to record it, especially when you do constantly tweak and re-invent them. So this tour was perhaps a bit of both lol.
Also, (think we’ve discussed before?) folks didn’t tour so much back then, probably not at all in 1972 Europe?
So they didn’t have to worry about that like they did later on.
Sometimes I think they, or someone, just really enjoyed certain songs, so played en more.
I’d say they played less repetitive in some ways as the years passed and they had more and more songs to choose from.
Ok, maybe not Bob, he seemed to need to play everything to death lol. Speaking of, why Me&My Uncle every night! I mean they just put it out on the last live album only a year before! With so much new stuff as the Dead, and from WM and AB, AND both Bob and Jers recent solo albums, why Bob, why LOL ; ) Perhaps trying to bring more American “culture”?
As far as reinterpreting songs, I think they always did that, though some more than others and with various results.
I guess that’s yet another thing dependent on the listeners taste and chever way yer pleasure tends…
But I’d bet the biggest factor on this tour was trying to get at least one good useable version of all the new material since they purposely chose this methodology to get the new songs out on a new album. That and mix in some familiar stuff as you never want to do all unknown songs. I could tell ya a story about doing that lol

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

6/12/1980

Started this morning and getting back to it now. Sound quality is really good. Thanks GOGD. Charlie Miller, the Dead should hire him!

Great show, Lost Sailor-SOC, yes. Scarlet Fire, really good. Again these shows have a different vibe. Give me some more 1979-80.

Otis, yes, I think we have moved to unofficial releases in the mix. We should be able to get a good mix of both official and unofficial.

For me personally, if the sound quality is not great, I will just pass. I spent way too much time in 1980s listening to marginal cassettes to not enjoy the treasures Dick, Dave and Co have blessed us with in the last 20 plus years.

Have a good night all.

Well Oiled Machine

PITB > UJB. You can tell when all the cylinders are firing cleanly. Very nice.

Can't wait for the Dew.

5/11/91

I am late watching this tonight, but holy shit this is good. We get a Half Step, on of my favorites Wang Dang Doodle, Queen Jane, Bird Song. Sounds really good in my system. Love Phil's turtle neck sweater looks sweet. Jerry is looking and playing really well. Maybe 91 is underated?

We definitely still need some Shoreline shows released.

91

Perhaps the last "consistently" good year. Bruce brought energy and professionalism and seemed to inspire Jerry.

When Jerry's voice held out and he and Bruce were on, it could be very, very good.

Fun Stuff

Some good listening this week.

Thanks for checking out the 6/12/80 upgrade with me yesterday.
I'd only previewed it but that was the first time I had a chance to really listen to it and it's a big improvement over the skeevy out of phase SBD that circulated previously until this month.
Nice way to celebrate that shows 30th anniversary with a newly restored recording. (Thanks Charlie!)
Cheers and thanks for tripping through it with me.

Last night's Shakedown Stream was fun. Haven't paid much attention to that show and video hasn't been released so it was almost like seeing / hearing it for the first time and I dug it. Especially liked that Bird Song, OMSN S2 opener (I knew you'd be stoked VGUY) and the PITB > UJB.

You can definitely hear how much Bruce drove the band in that period, but you could see it too last night.
And yes Spring - Summer '91 has some hidden gems in there for sure.
It's fun digging through that stuff to find them, cause they're quite surprising and refreshing and make you want to hunt for more:)

Dug 5/28/77 To Terrapin relisten.. but was still coming down from 10/12/68 and was a bit distracted, I'm not sure why I've never given that release as much attention as it deserves, great show, great artwork, PITB, May '77.. and yet I forget about it. Thanks for the reminder, it's a cool release.

And I dug going back to Shoreline '90 this week too.. Summer '90, that was fun!

Some how this morning I stumbled into Summer '93.. 6/6/93 to be exact. It's pretty fun so far.
BTW speaking of digging for treasure. There's a cool pocket of surprisingly good shows from December '92 - June '93.

It's not Plinky Keys but it's the GOGD and it's fun.
(What do you call Vince's keyboard sound btw, Clown Town?)

Alright, who's listening to what today?

Yea.. I double vision that

What's in store for today? No show yet?

Who's in charge anyway.. we have become completely dependent on you kind folks to pick the shows for us today.. I'd like to speak to the person in charge please!!

Somebody throw out a date.. and one that has some umph as I am in the beginning stages of what will be come a summer long home improvement project. Productivity is key. :D

Many thanks.

If we are not sick of 1980.. I have an idear, but you guys are doing such a good job I hate to interfere with a good thing.

Just as I thought

Nobody's in charge. Nobody for president? (said in my best 1984 voice).

How about either Dave's Picks 8 or one of the two RFK shows that were released last year or the year before or something from the Giants Box?? Dave's #8 is fantastic and haven't heard much about it lately, but if we have already had our fill of 1980, how about a quite decent late 80's multi-track?

Just spitballing.. until this nobody person stands up and show's some real leadership.

Just as I thought

Nobody's in charge. Nobody for president? (said in my best 1984 voice).

Just spitballing.. until this nobody person stands up and show's some leadership.

today's pick

Yes, Jim we have a leadership vacuum. Like a herd of cats. Dave's 8 sounds great and so do the Giants box shows, maybe 91 would be good after last nights Shakedown. I wonder why the Charlotte 12/10/73(DL8) show never gets any love. Anyone have any thoughts on this show? I don't remember any discussions of this show ever. It looks great on paper: fall 73, in between the celebrated Cleveland and Tampa shows, a charming southern city. Why no love?

The Situation Is The Boss

You know I really like listening to Steve Parish!

Alright, I like where this is going:)

And it would Appear that the Situation is making leaders appear.

In regards to what is mentioned here, I like the sound of 12/10/73 as like stated, that is overlooked for sure, I had to go look and see. Let's do it!

1980-11-30 - DaP V8 was picked way back in April 19th 2020 based on my notes, and '73 is good for Home Repairs :)

Nice work you guys, you are Boss!

Shall we go
12/10/73?
While we can..

Good thing GOGD is keeping notes

No repeats necessary when there is such a plethora to choose from.

Happened to fire up 6-17-91 in the car last night coming home from work, and now I’m about to go to the grocery store, so I will continue listening. Won’t finish the show today so the remainder will be driving on Monday.

Sounds like 12-10-73 will be my grilling and beering music tonight.

Grilling & Beering

CONEKID!
Yeah, I had a lapse for a month, and regretted it when I went to catch up. So now I'm on the daily.

Need to put it into Excel file or Google Docs or something.

Maybe one of you geeks can recommend a good method on that
(BTW don't anyone take that personally, I'ma geek too, look who's taking notes ;)

12/10/73 Promised Land here I come!
(after some nice Set 1 ditties and a 21 Minute PITB that is)

12/10/73

Yes! why not - let's give this underdog a chance! Queueing up for today's outdoor quarantine escape. (I love using the word "queue"!)

Awesome...

12.10.73 it is. It looks like someone is in charge.

# Someone 2020.

Ended up listening to NRPS while I made breakfast. Did an outdoor project and carried it out with me. Palate change over, time for GOGD.

12/10/73

12/10/73 it is. Never heard this show.

We also did the RFK shows a while back.

But we should definitely take a look at the Giants box again.

Fun Facts

Here's your up to the minute 12/10/73 report:

Released Dec. 6, 2005

Features a majority of this show.
Prior to release the show didn't circulate.
The last three songs showed up in circulation in 2002.

Missing 5 songs reportedly due to sub par sonics as follows:
Set 1 - Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, El Paso, BEW
Set 2 - MAMU

First Peggy-O
First Split Sugar Magnolia

Fun lil show. (for '73 in the '90s this woulda been a Monster:)

Definitely dug the PITB, Eyes > Brokedown (shoulda done that more often.. ie like every time).

Enjoy!

Well

In my defense, I sometimes have a hard time keeping up. ..but come to think of it I believe I caught most of DaP 8 and forgot.

Ok, done my chores, made dinner and cleaned up.. time to relax. I think I might open a bottle of red, chill and get into this show.

DaP 8....

....mkay

12/10/73

Thanks for the notes, GOGD. They fill in some crucial gaps. I wondered what the heck was the deal with the Peggy-O. Now it makes sense, it was a first performance. Then Weir interrupts with " have a safe and sane 4th". There must have been some real fireworks for Bobby to interrupt like that. An excellent Deal, with Keith's piano the highlight for me.
The PITB sounded a bit tentative to me on a first listen, like everyone was waiting for something to happen. But Garcia's shimmering liquid tone is in fine 1973 form. I liked it better on a second listening. Keith switches to electric near the end and Phil gets more aggressive. I'll need to spend some more time with this one!
A fine Row Jimmy, now onto set 2...

Thank Goodness Gulum is on top of things

And without GOGD, we would be lost.

(I like being lost, I seek it).

12/10/73

Yes, it's a fine lil show. I guess its fair to say it doesn't quite reach the heights of our favorite 73 shows. I think the PITB is essential, but then I think that of every 73 PITB I've ever heard. It's nice to listen to an earthbound 73 show occasionally. I think it gives some context for the stratospheric shows.

Holy Anniversary Bat Man!

There are a lot of shows in circulation that happened on June 14th.
And all of them are looking pretty darn good.
Here are my top anniversary suggestions for a possible pick of the day today -
6/14/84 Red Rocks
6/14/85 Greek (20th Anniversary show)
6/14/91 VFTV II

I'm leaning toward 6/14/85 at the Greek, cuz I love '85 and it's 35th Anniversary of their 20th Anniversary show.. which that starts to twist my mind on how strange that is.

Anyhow.. here's a list of recordings of shows played on this day in history.

Releases:
6/14/68 - Fillmore 69 Box (One Bonus Song = Caution)
6/14/76 - June 76 Box (Relistened 5/26/20, I think)
6/14/91 - VFTV II

SBD:
6/14/69
6/14/84
6/14/85
6/14/87
6/14/92
6/14/94

AUD Only:
6/14/68 (partial)
6/14/80

So do you want to Get Rocked at Red Rocks '84, Peak At The Greek '85, Rip It Up at RFK '91, or are you Seeking The Beacon '76.

Or is there another clever rhyme you wanna make up for what you're gonna listen too?

Anyhow, there it is, btw the Audience of 6/14/68 at Fillmore West is really quite cool and pretty damn good for '68 (meaning rough, but if you're a head you can do it)... Early St. Stephen (Actually The Eleven > St. Stephen!), Alligator > Lovelight > Caution... Far out. Summer '68 is very underrepresented.. no tapes, but an intrepid traveler managed to tape this one :)

Great Pick yesterday Gollum, I gave it the once over twice and really enjoyed it!

6/14/85

6/14/85 Greek Theatre it is GOGD.
Started and it is sounding good. Thanks!

Grilling and beering with 12-10-73

It was a good time, sitting on the deck, quaffing Oberons.....
Had several, now don’t really remember that much about the show except that I liked the PITB and wondered if it would be possible to clean up this show with a Plangent remaster.
Put that on the to do list for after remaining unreleased quality reels get the Plangent/Norman treatment.

Going to do more sitting in the deck today and roast some coffee beans.

It was 55 Years Ago Today.. Sgt. Pepper Told The Band To Play

Goin' To Peak At The Greek!

6/14/85 has always been a favorite of mine..

I was having a hard time narrowing it down to 3.. Love that Red Rocks '84 too.

Stoked!

ICECRMCNKD - Haha.. Grilling and Beering will do that! Yeah, I listened to that PITB 3 times and the Eyes > Brokedown, digging that stuff fo sure.

And away we go.

Never Take Your Eyes Off The Guy To Your Left Or Your Right

It’s Nice To Be Doing Something…

Always really liked the Pre-Show Press Conference for this show -
https://archive.org/details/gd1985-06-14.148769.nak700.severson.miller…

Susanna Millman mentions the great picture of the band she took glaring at the press after the stupid question about drugs. I wish I would've picked up a copy of her out-of-print Alive With The Dead book.... darn.

Susana states -
The reporter next to me (clearly not a DeadHead) questioned them as to whether they were on drugs, and they ignored his repeating this question twice but when he got really loud the third time, they all stared directly at him, faces stone cold but on the verge of cracking up!

I've been looking for a good quality video of the Press conference, I've got some skeevy excerpts.
If anybody has a line on that, lmk.

The Miller upgrade from 2016 of this is sounding good -
https://archive.org/details/gd1985-06-14.135656.sbd.miller.flac1648

Alright, have fun!

6/14/85

I enjoyed that interview! especially the parts about the passage of time and the Wagner. I remember really liking this show back in the day...I'll plan on spinning it later.

Today's Pick

How does 3/28/73 sound to you all?

Dave's Picks #16.

6/14/85, fun show. Enjoyed it. Sound quality from the version I listened to from relisten was good. Different version of Dancing. Truckin, Smokestack Lighting!

Dave's 16

Cumberland opener? Sounds good to me!

Greek 85 was a blast!

This is the best place on the internet.

Peace

Cumberland opener

The mix is spotty on the board, right in a place where Jerry is starting to catch fire. I'll have to check out the AUD. Anyone know if there is a good matrix of this one?

Gotta Get Down

'73 sounds good to me!

WILFREDTJONES - There's a Matrix, but the audience recording of Cumberland is missing the first 4 minutes or so, so not sure it would fix your ills.

https://archive.org/details/gd1973-03-28.sbd.mtx.tobin.86833.sbeok.flac…

Looking forward to this one and might have to try and revisit Night 2 of the Greek '85, I know I wanna hear Night 3 tomorrow...

Happy Monday!

RE: OROBOROUS Shoreline?

OB - Are you gonna Anniversary Trip Shoreline '90 this week?

Might try and get in there.. sheeeeaattt there's too much Dead to listen too!

Love that problem.

3/28/73

My last east coast Grateful Dead concert. Very rowdy crowd that night.

STRIDER

Last one on the East Coast.

Was that a conscious decision based on your experience at the show?

As usual, is there more to this story.. inquiring minds would like to know for our readers ;)

BTW - Thanks to the nice "Trail" you left me, I believe I have found the appearances.
Still having trouble picking you out in the Grateful Dead Movie.
Thanks Man, that was fun!

GOGD 6/15

Yeah, going to try and do Shoreline 90, and Greek 85...but damn the Scooby Doo house is perhaps my favorite Dave’s so...Doooaahh! I have so much “grown up” shit I need to do, including phone calls, but I’ll try and at least throw em on while I’m working...I’ll prolly give one the full treatment, the question is which one!

EDIT: dug 6/14/85 yesterday. Don’t think I’ve ever heard the first set, I’ve had the second set probably since 85 or 86, another gem picked up from ole Fred and Barry out at Sundance books back in downtown metropolitan Geneseo NY. Buzzo’s Music store used to be next door. Buzzo was a real character, his commercials were like “Buzzo, Buzzo, Buzzo”, and he had the best prices on JBL E 120 guitar speakers (what Jerry used).
Don’t think Buzzo is still there but I believe Sundance is....man that’s going back a ways in the ole memory bank, good times. Used to spark one up and take the leisurely country drive with ole Chuck to get fresh tapes from Sundance, kinda like Christmas!

RUH-ROH!

Jinkies!

Don't be scared Shaggy, but that's a lot of Dead

Scooby Doo house, that's too funny :)

Scooby Doo house

I think Keithfan 2112 came up with that.? He likes to name shows...

C'Mon Gang We've Got A Mystery To Solve

RE: OB - I like Source information, especially if it reads:

Soundboard > Master Reel > Dat.

Nice One Keithfan.. if you are indeed the originator of this funny little ditty.

I'm In

I love this show. One of my favorite Dave's picks. Scooby Doo House indeed.

Waterbury

This must sound fucking boring by now. If you look at the Waterbury concert page from a few years ago I wrote about being there those two nights, let me reiterate . I had been living in western Oregon after high school graduation that summer. My amazing mom died a few days before the Waterbury shows from cancer. Had to winter in Ct. to help my grieving WW-2 vet father (mess Sargent in Patton’s army). Very difficult time for me being only 18.
First day of Waterbury I rode up with friends Don H and Tom B. Went to a rodeo the afternoon before the concert that night. A rodeo in Connecticut of all places. A couple hours before the show I knocked on the back stage door and talked with Joe Winslow , told him I’d been living in Oregon and he let me in. I’m sitting in the empty theater when Ron Rakow looks at me and says to Winslow “who the fuck is this?”. And Joe Winslow tells him “back off! He’s a good guy”. Joe being one of the Pendleton boys looked out for me. I guess he appreciated me having been in Oregon for a few weeks. On a side bar Ken Kesey once talked about all the Grateful Dead roadies who were natives of Pendleton and joked about writing a book about them called “Place of Dead Roadies”, a spoof on the William Burroughs book “Place of Dead Roads”. The second night I showed up soon before they opened the doors and my friends Greg and the Weibel sisters who had been sitting in line for several hours let me cut in with them. In my post from several years ago I had the opening song listed wrong, but it was the only Dead show I ever attended when the Dead were on the stage playing as people first started streaming in, running to find good seats. Schwing (real name) and Bolton were also there. I went home after with my first love Cricket. Fast forward to early April 73 when I made it back to the promised land and then returned to Oregon. “We come with the dust and go with the wind”.
Now how do I collect 13 years of my posts off this site to put under one cover.

One last note. Dave Chapelle 8:46 on YouTube has gotten 17 million views in three days since he posted it. Extremely powerful!
Will make grown man cry.

GOGD/6/15/90

Maybe best of the Cali June 90 so far? Seemed a little more energized than Cal Expo? Remember nothing of this one, but not sure why (yeah right!) as it’s a good one. Good H-S-F opener, Desolation Row, rest of the usual suspects all good...
2nd: nice Scarlet/Fire, Blow Away ok, but perhaps like Hornsby was saying last Friday about his and other songs, sometimes, eventually, the band was starting to be a tad over this one? Same with 7/16/90, it’s ok, but this song definitely seemed to peak in 89, imho...same with this Women Are, good, but not quite up with the 89s?, did dig the weird jam though. Didn’t get to engage in the rest as much, had it cranked doing housework... but don’t recall anything notable, either pro/con, just another solid, enjoyable 90 show! Lol, makes that sound like a bad thing! Words...we should be able to communicate without them!
Ok, on to 6/15/85, not sure I’ll get to Scooby Doo house today, but I listen to that one often so no biggie.

Tomorrow 6/16/85, and video of 6/16/90 tomorrow night in the theatre...in case anyone’s interested..

STRIDER

It's not boring to me!

Must've been such a great time to be seeing shows.

Still kicking around Oregon?

Always been fascinated with the Oregon Dead connection and the impact Kesey and fam had on the 60s, San Francisco, and Oregon. Pretty wild stuff. That guy having so much impact on our world.

It was cool to watch Sunshine Days again, it'd been awhile.

And speaking of impact, 8:46 is definitely a heavy trip. Powerful stuff for sure.

RE: OROBOROUS 6/15/90

The last notes of JBG from the ole Scooby Doo house just faded out. That show is sick! One of the better DaPs?

So you helped me decide what up next. Best of Cali June '90 so far.. I like the sound of that.
The bands tuning up as we speak, write, whatever you call this.
You probably called this based on the tuning.. sounds like some excited fans know what to expect.

Yeah, looking forward to 6/16/85 fo SURE... first Cryptical since 9/23/72 Waterbury CT.
Was just talking about that show with STRIDER.
Ah serendipity

I was debating King Solomon’s Marbles for my Top 10 too, couldn't decide and figured I should add some songs with lyrics. But it's up there in the tops for me as well.

What's this theatre you speak of? I need to check out 6/16/90 again too.

This Slipknot! is midi-trippy Good stuff!

Dave's #16 3/28/73

This one seems to get better each time I listen to it. Maybe I am just appreciating the music more?
Almost five years since this was released.
Love the Cumberland opener, then into HCS. Really good. Another wonderful sixteen song first set. Really like this Half Step, Jerry's guitar sounds so pure. WRS prelude into Dark Star, Eyes than Playing! Love this show and you were there Strider, wow, really cool.

We should have Dave's 35 announced in roughly a month. Can't wait. No clue what it will be but I have my money on an eighties release.

Recent listens

As I have been acquiring releases in bunches, two of my recent additions are DP 32 (8/7/82) and DP 21 (11/1/85). I haven't been able to give them a proper listen until recently ( a rare benefit of the the COVID-19 lock down). I have to say I liked them both on the first go around. I knew DP 32 was wrought with sound/mixing issues but overall it was a good show. As for 11/1/85, I dug it and I am finding that I am really liking the 85 shows. In comparison to my usual listening of 69-77 or 89-91 eras, they are good shows, different, but still good. I need to check out the Riverbend 6/24/85 show from 30 Trips. I have heard good reviews on that and it also has a Cryptical.

1985

GRATEFULHAN - There's definitely some good stuff in the early 80s.

And FWIW, Summer '85 is a blast.

The 6/24/85 Riverbend release has always been a favorite, but don't stop there.
6/25 Blossom, 6/27 SPAC, 6/28 Hershey Park, 6/30 & 7/1 Merriweather. A highly recommended tour and a really fun run of tapes.

And speaking of, today is the anniversary of 6/16/85 and the brief return of Cryptical Envelopment.

Highly recommended because it's fun!

DEADVIKES - Calling an '80s release for the next DaP?
You heard it here first folks!

OROBOROUS - Dude, dug 6/15/90. Especially that interesting jam after He's Gone into Drums. Fast paced Scarlet > Fire and the opening HSF were tops. Good times!!

Alright, started up the 6/16/85 show and Bob's talkin' Walkin' Blues and it sounds fresh.. because it is in '85.

Summer 85

Gratefulhan: what GOGD said! And don’t forget 7/13/85, at least the first set. The band, the hills around them, everything’s on FIRE! If nothing else, be sure to check out 6/27,28,30, but the whole tour is good. Summer 85 is like this nice little oasis between the eras you mention. I’m extremely biased because it was probably my most fun year, but I love the music too, worts and all. There’s something dangerous and exciting. They often really go for it and at times your sure their going to jump the track, but they usually pull it off. I guess it’s they A++ for effort versus safe but perfect execution?

Ok, have to finish 6/15/85, then the mighty 6/16/85, and later, I’m going fire up the 6/16/90 DVD tonight on the big screen.

Greek Box

I know that it has been mentioned numerous times in the past, but it is WAY past due for TPTB to collect these Greek shows, shine em' up, and give us a Greek Box, a la The Giants Box. Looking at their history, they could go in a number of ways. I would like to see maybe 2 boxes, Greek 1: 1981-1985, and Greek 2: 1986-1989. Choose the BEST overall show from each year, 4 shows per box.

Or, make it a bigger box with all 8? I don't know, but I do know that I want it. Or hell, it looks like they played the Greek 27 times...

This 85 show is slaying me right now, and I'm only 4 songs into the 1st set! I'm glad Brent eventually got invited to the party 1/2 through "Walkin's Blues" :) Another hot pick!

Peace

EDIT: I suppose Box 1 would be 5 shows, not 4... maybe add a fifth show from 86-89 to even it out :)

RE: Greek Box

OTIS - Glad you're peaking at the Greek with us.

So upon revisiting these old favorites from Berkeley June '85 I've decided the following:
Are they the hottest thing ever? No.
Does Jerry's voice sound pretty shot? Yes.
Is it the bands 20th Anniversary and despite adversity and multiple challenges do the band rise to meet the occasion? Yes.
Do they break out Cryptical Envelopment after 13 years of not playing it on the last night of the run? Yes, yes they do.
Are these 3 shows enjoyable? Definitely.

Finishing up Night 2 now.. wasn't able to get to it on it's anniversary. And really all 3 nights are cool.

I'd be slightly disappointed if they chose to release one of these and not the other 2.

That being said, I'm pretty sure the tapes we have are from the Cassette Master which, as far as we know, is what's in the Vault.

So the big question, as I see it, would be how much would the plangent process increase the quality?
And I'd be happy to find out the answer to that question.

I'm not holding my breath. So in the meantime, I say, dust off or grab these 3 SBDs from your nearest Charlie Miller source and open up a copy of the Taper's Compendium V2 and enjoy a little bootleg box set glory!

Ain't no time to wait...

85 Greek continued

6/15&16/85: finished it up 15th this AM. Have had this full show, but only second set of first night, and have never heard the 16th until today! Some what mixed bag like much of 85. “85 is like a box of chocolates, most good, some you get that one ingredient you don’t like, and a few are dosed”) 😎
Though the first and last nights prolly look more sexy on paper: Keep on Growing, last Stagger Lee 82, last Comes a time 80, Set opening Dew, and the Cryptical etc., I think maybe the second night is the best played overall? And we get a FOTD, scorching Might as Well, and of course yet another sweet She Belongs to Me. I’d definitely say it’s between the first 2, as the last night seems less tight? JG definitely having some issues from like Cryptical on..
Yes it’s cool as hell to hear it, (though I want to find a Aud version to hear the crowd go nuts, they sure did in Meriwether!) But Jer does not sound very confident so it’s not all it could be. After something going on? Brokedown ends it on a good note at least.
Yeah, this 16th is a classic 85 roller coaster. Wharf Rat a good example: Jer’s stumbling, but Brents organ and some of Bob and Brents harmonies are amazing. Yeah, shits all over the place sometimes lol.
Never made it to the Greek, but from all accounts and documentation I imagine it was top shelve, so seeing a weekend of these shows at that venue....I can barely imagine. Well it sure was fun. Haven’t really checked these out in a while (or at all), but my recollection is the heart of the summer tour is more so where the meat and potatoes are? Hope to confirm that as I’m going to try and do this tour starting next weekend. I mean what the hell, it’s the 35 anniversary of probably my favorite?, craziest (definitely), most fun (probably), tour!
Tonight Vault View 3 I believe it is, from 6/16/90. Hit the last Shoreline 90 mañana, then need some 70s in between, perhaps revisit the 76 box fir a good deep brain scrub, then everybody into the pwuel, cause summer 85 is back and the time is right for dancin in the streets....unless perhaps your African American cause they’ll look ya up for that shit in some places! Harumph!

EDIT: always glad to have brother Otis along for the ride! The more the merrier eh!