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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    DaP1 update

    All 3 CD’s look fine and so far CD1 plays fine (currently on Peggy-O).

    Playing on the same Onkyo I play all my CD’s on.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Cheaper materials, and less of them

    Today’s CD’s are about half as thick as the ones from the 80’s. Less plastic, and maybe a thinner metal film where the data is stored. Less and/or lower quality top layer to hold the metal film down and you might get peeling.

    CD-R’s these days are also thinner. But, my write failure rate is now <1% compared to 1998 when it was about 10%. I attribute that to better burners and blanks.

    I’ve had the top layers of CD-R’s start to peel off, but that was after being in the car for 10 years.
    The CD-R’s that I successfully burned in the late 90’s still play fine now (they were never stored in the car).

    Haven’t checked any of my DaP’s yet, will report later.

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    Sounds like Diginoise

    DaP 3 Disc 2 Casey Jones and Johnny B. Goode. Last 2 tracks of the disc.

    It's true that ever since Jim mentioned the Fiio X1 FLAC player 6 or some years ago (he probably doesn't remember that) that's what I've been using exclusively. Digital Files now, not the originals which are stored safely away. Very rare that I would experience a problem, except in the usual places. (Rocking the Cradle Glue comes to mind)

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    I can explain the CD weirdness easily....

    ....what year is it again? There ya go.

  • daverock
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    Strange turn of events

    It seems a bit odd to me, too, that so many people are identifying degraded cds all at the same time. I wondered if people made copies of the original - or ripped them or whatever - played those, and have not looked at the originals for a few years. And now the word is out, they are checking them and finding out they have turned to dust.

    Occasionally I play a cd, and it jumps on a track where it didn't before - I have no idea which ones it has happened on, though. I've got thousands stashed away. Actually, I can remember one Dead one that started malfunctioning uexpectedly-Dicks Picks 5. It was over 10 years ago, and I bought another copy second hand. I'm not going to sit here making copies of them all, or ripping them all, that's for sure!

    Also I can't see Rhino replacing cds that were sent out 10 years ago. Or Dave Lemieux expressing any interest in the situation whatsoever.

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    hope you guys check out your cds

    Because my DaP 3 Disc 1 has static and skipping on tracks 1 and 12 (first and last tracks on the disc). Bertha and Me and Bobby McGee respectively. Working on DaP 3 Disc 2 right now and I'm up to Deal with so far no problems.

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    I just can't see the physics in it. How could this be. I'm not saying I doubt anyone but how could something degrade sandwiched between 2 plastic coverings on the disk while in a dark protective case? Even 10 years is short for cds. I also think it's weird because no one said anything for a long time and there had to have been some deadheads listening to Daps 1,2 and 3 on a daily or weekly basis. I dont want anyone to think I'm calling them liars at all. It's just strange.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Cutting corners and no quality control

    That’s been the Rhino business model for several years. That’s why they were making the CD’s in Mexico for a while. Recall that those releases constantly had defective discs.

    And don’t fool yourself thinking that Rhino actually cares about you, they just want your money. Our purchasing of these releases is financing the digitization/Plangentization/Normanization of analog tape masters. Rhino/GD will still be bringing in revenue in the future from hi-res downloads/streaming long after our CD’s have deteriorated.

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    On a couple of occasions I’ve only been able to get the disc to play on my oppo BR in real time to my Alessis masterlink 9600, like tape to tape back in the day....once on the 9600 I could make a disc that would then rip just fine.
    Only a couple times, but a huge drag and waste of time..
    EDIT: when I’ve done this I’ve akways gone digital out of the oppo into the 9600 to elimate 2 steps of conversion. I’ve actually made some killer transfers from DVDs to CD using this methodology. I often think these sound better then the CD versions because I think they keep more live ambient signal on the DVD mixes.

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    Wilfred, Billy, that is disturbing to hear, neither of you sound like you are prone to mistreating your discs. I don't have the original issues for DaP 1-4, just copies so this doesn't affect me unless it spreads to other volumes, but consider me bummed on your behalf.

    On a tangent, years ago I was at a friend's place, hanging out one afternoon the summer after my first year of college when I noticed that he had record albums scattered on the floor. I picked one up, The Doors Absolutely Live in fact, and said "Dave, man, you gotta take better care of your records, these are getting trashed, look at this." Dave looked at me, looked at the album and said "Oh, don't worry, that's yours, your brother loaned it to me."

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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I wasn't seeing the Dead to much in the 90s, maybe two or three times a year, but this show they really nailed it. My brother and I were down in the 3rd row and when they did Promised Land out of Dark Star, I turned around and looked back up the hill at Shoreline Ampithetre and that whole place was absolutely rocking and ready to blow, it was very cool. This show could be a Dave's pick easily.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aoy6yYaytVg
Love it! This is a pretty grateful song for Father’s Day!
A grateful “father s day” to all you grateful dads here! Wishing you all a grateful day filled with lots of love and laughter God bless,peace be with you all!
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*PS: lol funny thing, where I live right now has No Basement! Ha ha just a garage; which is mine! All mine!!! Lol ....ciao’

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LMG what record store did you buy DaP 2 at? I own a record store and I'm always looking for rare CDs at good prices, especially in bulk. Did it include the bonus disc? Also let me know if you are selling your E72 set.

Top 10 sounds interesting. If I exclude the big ones that are typically joined together in a medley like Dark Star > Saint Stephen > The Eleven, mine are

Uncle John's Band
Sugar Magnolia
Jack Straw
Foolish Heart
Touch of Grey
Loose Lucy (played 1973 style, slow groove)
Brown-Eyed Women
Black-Throated Wind (favorite Bobby song)
Midnight Hour

Now that I've written it it doesn't even make sense. I have 10 more there could easily take their place. You just can't do it.
I'm an old-timer, but I included some of their later songs that are truly great. A lot of Deadheads felt a huge fan payoff when the last two albums were released.
There was some serious fan enthusiasm for these records after Jerry's coma, and they did not disappoint. They were stacked with great songs. I remember before In The Dark came out there was a common attitude in the press that it was going to be a flop like they considered Go To Heaven, and that the songs might get a play or two at the beginning of the tour.

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Wow, CD preorder is sold out already?

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... hello brother, unfortunately the Dave’s Picks #2, I just got didn’t come with the Bonus Disc. But Ian grateful for the find! It’s also great that you own a record shop and for at least 25 years now! That is Very impressive in my book.Right On my man! Record shops are like a Butcher Shops, very rare! Lol Where are you located and name? I used to own a record shop myself. Sadly I had to close shop down many years ago during the Bush Addminastration and one of the biggest financial crisis the Country experienced at that time. I remember it like it was yesterday. I had a many grateful moments during those years! I also sold off my Apple stocks and purchased my family’s beach home on Long Beach Island, NJ a very small island off the coast of New Jersey, beautiful in every way! I don’t think I am allowed to post the name of the record shop, I don’t want to get them in any trouble , I’m not sure if they’re really allowed to be open yet due to the devastating virus crisis our precious little world is experiencing right now. It’s really causing & costing a lot of people their jobs, homes and any or if not all any assets one might have and most importantly their lives! So sad.
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The Princeton Record Exchange (in Princeton, NJ), very nice. Haven't been there since we left Jersey, but used to go a lot.

Down in Dallas, we have Good Records, been there for YEARS.

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In early May I was too busy with my inaugural E72 run-through to listen to this DaP when it came out. So today, complete with Jai-Alai Pale Ale in hand, I will break out the bonus disc on its anniversary. Then tomorrow it's on to the full show, which I've never heard; from what you all have reported, it sounds like I'm going to have a real good time!

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Listening to this show now. I love how forward in the mix bobby is. This show sounds great and I wonder if they could do a matrix with healy's tapes and this aud for a nice Dave's pick. The Fox show from '80 sounds amazing. I wonder why they haven't tried that again. This show would be a great candidate since sound quality issues hold back so many of the '80s shows.

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After 55 days in transatlantic limbo my DaP 34 has finally arrived to my place in northern Sweden. On June 23th, same date as the show! I take that as a good sign.

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I came home from a Dead concert up in Oakland back in the early eighties and I had dosed. I got into bed and put on some headphones and put on Anthem of The Sun and I could hear the color purple, right after Cryptical, it was very cool. Anthem of the Sun , Workingman's Dead, and The best of Muddy Waters, my three favorite recordings of all time.

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...well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're all doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you'll have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right
You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right...

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If you line up

Road Trips Vol 2 No 3 >
Dave’s Picks Vol 34 >
Dick’s Picks Vol 12

...you get five Wall of Sound shows (two or three are complete) over a period of ten days on 8 CDs. DIY Box set!

So the Pacific Northwest shows that came just before...are those Wall of Sound, too?

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“Until the philosophy
Which hold one race superior and another
Inferior
Is finally
And permanently
Discredited
And abandoned
Everywhere is war
Me say war
That until there no longer
First class and second class citizens of any nation
Until the color of a man's skin
Is of no more significance than the color of his eyes
Me say war
That until the basic human rights
Are equally guaranteed to all
Without regard to race
Dis a war”

And so on

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...may never change the way it's been
and all the ways of war can't change it back again
I've been out searching for the dolphins in the sea
And sometimes I wonder, do you ever think of me
I'm not the one to tell this world how to get along
I only know that peace will come when all hate is gone
I've been searching for the dolphins in the sea
And sometimes I wonder, do you ever think of me
You know sometimes I think about Saturday's child
and all about the time when we were running wild
I've been searching for the dolphins in the sea
and sometimes I wonder, do you ever think of me
This old world may never change...

Don't listen to me, let Fred tell you, you won't regret hearing it https://youtu.be/KoI2-JK4ZvI
Colin, the problem that I see is that once the war starts it's hard to say where it will end, but the smart money is on pain, misery, inhumanity and despair accompanied by the loss of innocent life. Buy the ticket take the ride.

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I just laugh it off anymore. Sick pooch.

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A new CM remaster making the rounds....

Grateful Dead - May 12, 1974
MacKay Stadium - Reno, NV

Set 1:
01 - Tuning
02 - Promised Land
03 - Sugaree
04 - Mexicali Blues
05 - Tennessee Jed
06 - Jack Straw
07 - Brown Eyed Women
08 - Beat It On Down The Line
09 - China Cat Sunflower >
10 - I Know You Rider
11 - El Paso
12 - U.S. Blues
13 - Greatest Story Ever Told
14 - Must Have Been The Roses
15 - Me And Bobby McGee
16 - Deal

Set 2:
17 - Tico Tico
18 - Around And Around
19 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
20 - Truckin' >
21 - The Other One >
22 - Mind Left Body Jam >
23 - Row Jimmy
24 - Big River
25 - Ship Of Fools
26 - Sugar Magnolia

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Haile Selaisse wasn't threatening war in his speech, he was arguing that perpetual war was the inevitable result of the continued existence of racism. Sure having a plan for what's next is great, but history comes at unexpected moments, and from unexpected people. Some are destined for such times, Haile Selaisse was one of them. He stood up to Mussolini's invasion, and sought help that didn't come from the League of Nations. Almost 25 years later, he showed up to give a speech at the UN that was a warning that the racist oppression that had held Africa captive for 400 years was coming to an end, and that the racism must be reckoned with; if it is not faced and obliterated, everywhere will be war. America's Original Sin, as termed by Thomas Jefferson, was slavery, and slavery must exist upon the most insidious racism in which one believes another human to be less than to the point they cannot walk free, and are mere dumb brutes to perform hard labors forever and without recompense. In the Twentieth Century, tens of millions died in World War II, which was a race war, with the Japanese believing themselves superior to the Koreans and Chinese and other Asian peoples, much less the whites of the West; and of course Hitler's need for "lebensraum" (living space) for Aryans meant the destruction of "subhumans". Germany, Japan, and South Africa are some of the least likely countries to repeat their great racist mistakes, because they have at least tried to come to terms with that history, where America has steadfastly refused to face its Original Sin except for those five bloody years, and even now many try to argue that war wasn't rooted in slavery, which only goes to underline the point of America's unwillingness to grapple with its problems. At least we have the opportunity to help change our society at the ballot box. But we have that thanks to a revolution that was not well thought out.

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Beautifully mix /master’s performance on my Youngest daughters birthday, she loves the Grateful Dead . I named her , Delilah!
She just turned 9 years old. I’m going to play her this for her when she wakes up this morning! Thank you for sharing my brother! Your very kind, have a grateful day, peace be with you! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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... there’s an excellent record store in Hoboken New Jersey! https://tunesonline.net/
I know the owners , cool couple of cats I must say! A grateful crew indeed!
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I just happen to pull out 6/24/73 out of the box to listen to some dead this morning, strange days Indeed!
Also listened to the dead’s newest cd release, “Ready Or Not” . I Really enjoy this release and the sound, ‘Primo’ Quality audio wise it’s just phenomenal it’s just so sweet sounding; takes me right back down by the river...💀🌹

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Terry Riley-You’re No Good
Freddie Hubbard-In Concert Vol. 2
MJQ-Plastic Dreams
Jefferson Airplane-We Have Ignition
John Zorn-Virtue

C’mon WD 50th!! I need you!!

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Good afternoon everyone! Extremely sunny here in Philadelphia. What's everyone thinking the next Dave's Picks will be? I'd personally love a show from 69 or 71. What are your wishes??

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I'm going with 4-21-78 Rupp Arena, Lexington, KY :-)

Potent show from the 80s

Next Daves? I predict..............

Something from GD84

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11-29-80 - Alligator Alley

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Two sides of the moon
Shit album but spawned the line “ spits a bit but she’s gig a heart of gold “

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Well, we've had at least one Brent/Pig show for every year of the Dave's series except the first one (all Keith and/or Donna only). Some years have had two. So far this year we have a '77 and a '74. No Brent or Pig yet. So my bet would be one or the other here, especially if it is going to be Brent. Dave has never gone beyond 1983 in any release for this series. So far, it has roughly been, 1 Pig show every year (7/8), and one Brent ever other year (4/8). This is year 9.

Brent Dave's = 4. DaP#8 11/30/80; DaP#20 12/9/81; DaP#27 9/2/83; DaP#31 12/3/79.

Pig Dave's = 7. DaP#6 12/20/69 (with TC), 2/2/70; DaP#10 12/12/69; DaP#14 3/26/72 (with K&D), DaP#19 1/23/70 (with TC); DaP#22 12/7/71 (with Keith); DaP#26 11/17/71 (with Keith); DaP#30 1/2/70 (with TC).

I think we get a Pig and a Brent this year (or maybe even a Bruce/Vince), and this one will be the '79/'80's/'90s show. I will go Melk Weg Hash Bar, 10/16/81. Plus some filler.

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Unwilling. As we all did.

Last show was 25 years ago today. A fun ride from 82-95.

Top 5 shows:

10/12/84
12/30/86
9/18/87
11/8/85
11/7/85

A few summer 85 shows would have made the list, 6/27 and 6/30, but I really prefer the indoor shows.

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7/13/76 Orpheum Theatre, 9/11/81 Greek Theatre, 10/9/82 Frost Ampitheatre, 12/28/83 S.F. Civic, and 7/13/84 Greek Theatre. I feel all these shows could be stand alone releases or could be put along side other shows to form nice box sets.

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In the end got my JAI-ALAI FRONTON 1974 copy, but not without paying quite a sum because of the incorrect label saying "value 30.00 $". Nevertheless somewhat glad. What about you gratefulgerd?

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You guys are making me jealous!

Just kidding, keep going :-)

P.S. Good job on the educated guesses Jason Wilder.

P.S.S. Slow Dog Noodle...Re: Next DaP guesses: W.A.G. means only ONE thing you know...hehee :-)

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09-16-67 Elysian Park - Free gig with the Airplane...the two had played the Hollywood Bowl the night before and
basically both bands were upset no one was allowed to dance so they did this freebie...the weekend before my Senior Year in HS

05-21-82 The Greek - My first weekend at the Greek...somewhat of a short show but the jam from Space into The
Wheel was just a thing of beauty the way the band fluttered into The Wheel

02-26-77 The Swing Auditorium - no explanation needed

12-12-81 The Swing Auditorium - The first show after John Lennon was killed...I've always thought how much of a catharsis this show was for all who attended

08-05-71 The Hollywood Palladium - Pig Power!!!

ask me tomorrow and it will slightly different...I think we need to have a top five "Mulit-dates run" as well...Ventura, The Greek, Alpine, Red Rocks etc....be safe be healthy folks...

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It got me reading some history.

I won't go for a Top Five Attended; my list would look sad compared to all yours. The best show I attended was my first, and musically, it really was the best of my 23 shows. 6/24/91, which I honestly believe could be released, hopefully as a Summer 1991 mini-box. They used to play that show fairly often on the Sirius/XM GD Channel, so who knows?

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