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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • #1421
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    You are correct sir about the Bm...also a Dm and Dsus2 according to Ultimate Guitar Tabs on the “Official Version”. I love the above mentioned app. Has most every song that you can think of and usually there are many versions to play so if you’re not quite getting one arrangement there is usually a way for guys like me to dumb it down a bit. That said I need to add those chords on UJB as they are in my range. Will also try the riff....I have a little pentatonic game as well! (I’m guessing there)

    For the record, and if memory serves, I do believe I’ve seen youtube of you playing WilfredT, and you are an excellent player. I’m like a wanna be campfire player at best, but it’s more fun then a frog in a glass of milk.

  • #1422
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    Hola Senor Janes

    Good to see ya!
    I think Bob was alluding to what I’ve heard/read all of them say over the years; it got harder and harder to get the band (especially Jerry) to rehearse and some of those songs you just couldn’t do well without rehearsal: LS, Cosmic Charlie, St Stephen etc. Unfortunately another side effect of ole Jer Bears monkey...especially when you consider how hard many of Jer’s parts were on these songs...it’s a bummer but no wonder many of the greats were set aside.

    GUITARS & CADDILACS; used to play all the time. Tried to play guitar for ten years, occasionally professionally, once in the studio....switched to bass and rarely looked back. Did try the solo acoustic/apre thing briefly, but wasn’t that good and it’s really hard carrying the whole show by your self. And Scarry! Don’t have that front man Mojo either “star waaarrrsss, nothing but staaaarrrrr wwwaaaarrrsss” much prefer to play with 3 to 5 people, the interaction is where it’s at. But the rush of playing in a hot band in front of a bunch of people IS uncompareble....talk about a high!
    But yeah, I preferred being in the back row under the dark lights grooving on the Bass. Played that professionally on and off for 20 years, last ten it was my main, though not only job...It was a gas, but after 100-150 nights a year, often at shitty bars and clubs, when your feet are killing you and your back can’t take that heavy lumber anymore, we’ll sometimes it’s a double edge sword doing what you love for a living....unfortunately haven’t really played in like ten years now. Had to TRY and grow up and get a real job....plus after I got booted out of my main gig, eventually all the calls stopped coming as it is a small, close knit group that gets the gigs here.
    I truly miss it in my minds eye, but I don’t miss schlepping that heavy ass gear at 3 in the morning, or getting hassled by the law, or trying to get inspired when your back hurts and it’s late, and there’s only 4 drunks left, but I do miss it.
    GUITARS
    - Ibanez Muscian Series I got in 79 and modified with Alembic circuitry/pickups in 84.
    - Madeira Acoustic
    - 84 Alembic Spoiler 4 string electric Bass
    - Michael Kelly Club Deluxe 5 String Acoustic/Electric Bass. picked this up early century when I was playing a lot to get upright sound etc. Never spent enough on upright to be proficient as it’s physicaly painful, and it’s a drag trying to play live with a loud band. I liked the sound I good get with the Kelly and a Sans Amp tech 21 Acoustic DI. It’s made for Acoustic guitar but works awesome for the Acoustic Bass. Seceret is the adjustable mid....
    shit, ramblin again, sorry, fun topic. DAVEROCK sportin’ the Bobbie Dazzler! Nice axe bra! My guitar teacher always played and sold Gretches. Wish I would of got one, but wanted a Bob Weir Ibenez so bad. Almost had one but got the Muscian series instead. I’ve seen pictures of both Bob and Jerry playing one but not sure what show (s)? Think it was around when Bob was first using Ibenez?

  • #1423
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    There's a B Minor in there somewhere...I think after the G. The riff is fun, too! Don't forget to learn that :-)

    Thanks for sharing info. on your guitars, too. I also have a '96 Washburn (D-20 in Koa). My brother just bought his first guitar, a Seagull S6... :-)

  • #1424
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    6/22/83 source

    Yeah I think that’s the same source as I had. As I say at the time it was definetly my best sounding tape which in those days wasn’t saying much, but this one shined! Great show too, and looks like it must of been a great place to freak freely from the news clip.
    So my buddy Doug hooked up with some dude who either was doing the taping or ? Not sure I really knew, but they knew WTF they were doing, had like Nac with sennhieser mics and were usually low generation and near that quality.
    I had the best gear so most of my friends/cousins would bring their new tapes to my house for coping etc so I’d usually get decent generations. Some shows better than others depending on where they were located. Remember, this was before taper section so some diehard pros would poach in front of board, which sometimes was awesome, other times too loud or tone unbalanced etc...
    Anyway, we start getting some killer 83’s, probably end of year I’m guessing. Unfortunately I never got the source guys info and next thing you know ole Doug’s knocked up the bosses daughter, whose family is super religious so shotgun wedding and no more fun for ole druggles, poor bastard! And no more tapes for us! Dooaah
    Funny part was he got our band to play his ultra conservative wedding, but’s that’s a whole nother story for the bonfire....

  • #1425
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    Hey all, COVID seems to have me busier than I’ve ever been with both the wife and kid working and schooling here at the cave...so I’ve just been lurking here lately on the site, but I have to jump in on a good guitar convo.

    Dennis, I’ve read that 1983 is right around when Gibson started producing great acoustics again, shifting back to some of the methods that they used on 60s flat top guitars. I would love to play that Hummingbird. I’ll bet it sounds awesome, and from knowing what I know of you, it is probably very well cared for! I just recently learned UJB. It was surprisingly (to me at least) very easy to learn and made up of only 5 basic chords (G, D, C, Am, Em) which are some of the first chords (and easiest) that most guitar players will learn. Rhythmically, the toughest part of the song IMO is probably in what would be considered to be the chorus....that is the part that goes “whoa-o what I want to know is ______________....there are some quick chord changes in that line which take some practice, but all in all, not to difficult. That said, singing it and playing at the same time for me is much more difficult. I have only recently been able to incorporate some singing along with my playing and I have been playing for more than 20 years. Some of that I think is confidence factor of worrying about what others think I sound like, which I really don’t give a shit about anymore, but the other part is that rhythmically it is not easy to learn, especially if the song has difficult chord phrasing. Did anyone hear the Bob Weir Shakedown interview from Friday night? He had some interesting comments about Lost Sailor and the reason it didn’t stay around for too long in the bands repertoire. Too difficult to play and the other band members didn’t want to spend the time on it. And we’ve seen that LS has only recently been brought back into D&Cs repertoire. So this got me thinking about the progression of Bob Weirs playing ability. Of course it’s widely know that Bob was nearly kicked out of the band early on because of complaints about his guitar playing. And to be fair he only started playing guitar at the age of 13 and then met Garcia just 3 years later. And any player is going to experience some plateauing, especially early on. That said, it make me wonder if the shift in style on WMD and AB were at least partly made in efforts to help with this handicap as the arrangements are much simpler and back to the basics. (Here is a quote from wiki on the subject:
    “The incident apparently led to a period of significant growth in Weir's guitar playing. Phil Lesh said that when drummer Mickey Hart left the band temporarily in early 1971, he was able to hear Weir's playing more clearly than ever and "I found myself astonished, delighted and excited beyond measure at what Bobby was doing." Lesh described Weir's playing as "quirky, whimsical and goofy" and noted his ability to play chord voicings on the guitar (with only four fingers) that one would normally hear from a keyboard (with up to ten fingers).[13].

    Cousins: what kind of guitars do you own? What gets the most play? Based on your bands genre, I’m going to guess a Fender Telecaster?

    Here are my guitars:

    1). 1996 Washburn Limited Edition Acoustic
    2). 2017 Gibson Les Paul High Performance in Cherry Red Sumburst
    3). Seagull Artist Studio CW Deluxe Element
    4). MJT Custom Telecaster build that is aged vintage relic...Taos Turquoise over 3-Tone burst
    5). Rhino issued Grateful Dead Dancing Bear/Stealie ukulele (don’t really play this one just decoration
    6). I also recently ordered a Taylor GS Mini Koa Plus E with edge burst on my 4 years zero interest Sweetwater card. I needed a good travel guitar and this one gets phenomenal reviews....can’t wait!, but sshhhhhh! Don’t tell Mrs Casey!

    -the one I play the most (currently) is the Seagull...most accessible hanging on the wall right next to the couch in my living room. It has a pick up so I can plug it in but I rarely do as it projects nicely anyway. It as a solid Sitka Spruce Top, with Solid Rosewood back and sides, Mahogany neck and Ebony fingerboard, gold vintage tuners. It’s a beautiful guitar that sounds just as good as it looks.

    Oro - Great repo car story...had me LOL as usual! For those interested, I promise to finish my Gorge story very soon. Fell off the wagon on that one, but the details are still there. Anniversary is also fast approaching....bummed I can’t do the repeat as I planned for Boulder in July...hopefully we can get back at it soon!

    Doc - Great to read your regular posts again. Glad you’re back.

    Be Well Dead People!

    KCJ

    Led Ded: just read your post...couldnt agree more. No better hobby and incredibly gratifying when you are able to overcome a plateau....repitition and practice....I’m at least one hour a day usually early mornings or later at night!

  • #1426
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    Yes, some of us really play...

    I am a guitar freak. I have about two dozen electrics, two acoustics and a couple basses, untold effects pedals and several amps. I actually do pick up those instruments with my two hands and play the shit out of them, every day, sometimes only for a half hour and other times all day long, esp. on weekends.

    It's the most gratifying hobby I've ever known. When you start out, you suck and sound like shit. Over time, you learn other people's songs, chord changes, scales, etc. One day you find yourself sitting there with a drink and wailing along to "Layla" at full volume, kicking ass and blending right into the record. And then, you start coming up with your own stuff. Some people eschew covers and play as themselves right off, but if there's a kind of music you like, learning that stuff gives you a toolbox of techniques from which to start doing your own thing.

    You get out of it what you put into it, practice practice practice. I don't really practice so much as play, but you hone your skills through repetition and hours devoted as you pick up new things here and there. One of my favorite things is to crank up a "Big River" like the one on One From The Vault, and wail along with Jerry. He was so good in his prime it's sick.

    I'm not in a band. I have a straight job and a family (and a mortgage etc.) However now and again getting in a room with other musicians, especially with drums present, and turning up is as much fun as it looks. Unfortunately it looks like a bleak time right now for anyone struggling to make it as a musician. First album sales were destroyed by the internet and bands had to depend on live concerts and merch sales. What are they going to do now?

    A long time ago, I might have leaned that way, but I'm glad I went with the straight job, keeping the guitar playing on the side, pure artistic expression with no strings attached or record company bullshit. Last, anyone who's always wanted to learn to play the guitar, go buy a decent one and get after it! If you keep with it, it will reward you more than you can imagine.

    \m/

  • #1427
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    Did someone say, "Saint Paul"?

    LOVE that show from '77 (AND the Saint Paul show from the 1978 box), but cannot allow myself to get distracted from my E72 studies. I still need to finish Bickershaw AND Amsterdam, then get to Rotterdam on its anniversary today. The back-to-back concerts on this tour make things difficult . . .

    I didn't get into Grateful Dead until I was 21 (1991), but if I had been born ten or fifteen years earlier, I would have attended those old MN and upper-midwest shows.

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    Hey Dennis, I'll take your Hummingbird if it's lonely :-)
    I play guitar in a band(Western Swing/Honky Tonk) , although not sure when we'll be able to play out again this year.

  • #1429
    Dennis
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    Just got DP29 in from Real Gone Music. I never bought any of the DP's when they were coming out, my buddy was getting them and sending me copies, money was tight and what the hell. In the end, wish I had bought them all as they came. Now I'm too cheap to pay some of the prices I see for complete sets, and the wife would never understand :-).

    I have to say for anyone who hasn't bought these real gone music releases, they did a nice job on it. At first blush I thought the bonus tracks weren't included, but though not listed, they are there. It was 60 bucks from amazon (got a price cut before it shipped!) So maybe I'll look into getting the real gone collection,,,,, if it's cheap enough :-)

    Dave the Rock and the Gretsch - I know Dave's not the only one on these boards who has guitars AND I know absolutely NOTHING about guitars or playing. But I looked up your guitar and yeah, pricey things. The demo's online made it sound very nice. My question, can you really play? I've met many people over the years who have instruments of all types, played "in my youth", they can still strum a few basic cords, but really can't play. I have a Gibson hummingbird my wife gave me back in 83-ish, why, I have no idea. Maybe she thought I develop unknown talents. I told it's a nice guitar, quite a few people have strummed it over they years and say "very nice". But one night at the store a customer who came in all the time (doctor of some sort), had just bought a new hummingbird, asked me bring in my old one. Bastard sat down and knocked out UJB off top of head. Blew me away. BTW - said my old hummingbird was much louder than new ones.

    So Dave, do you play? Also other folks out there, do you really play? I believe some of you are in bands?

    Just curious.

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    The bonus disc is simply amazing! Classic songs/jams and the sound is superb. This was a GRATE addition to a magnificent show. Thank you Dave!

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 08:02

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. How’s it hanging! Hope all is well 👌🏻

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 09:46

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So can we buy it or what?

I wanna keep it forever and ever...

Old school, I know but streaming isn't permanent.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 10:07

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I wonder if they will put a physical copy out of this.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 10:42

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....very interesting. Stream only format. 2 1/2 hrs. Only 4 minutes deadicated to Cumberland though :(

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Agreed, don't see it anywhere.

I like physical copies also. NOTHING streams forever.

If it's being given away, send us a link to a mp3 location. (at minimum)

Maybe at the very minimum, send a link to DaP subscriptions. (oh, that maybe a little self serving, sorry)
But I have no fear, a link will be provided AND a resourceful Head will get them down and out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 11:25

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They said they found these in a bunch of unlabled boxes, maybe 6/17/75 and 6/11/69 were also in those boxes, or maybe more live 1970 shows.

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Submitted by LedDed on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 13:35

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Nice synchronicity of having to listen to that slab of pure cheese in the dentist's office, because whenver I hear "Summer of '69" it's like having a tooth pulled.

I listen to classic rock radio in the background all day at work. I can't be too engaged in it, like constantly selecting and changing music, etc., so the local rock station just plays songs all day long. It's mostly ok, hell, they even play the Dead every once in awhile even if it's usually "Touch Of Grey."

Probably the cheesiest, absolutely most cringe-inducing vehicle of sonic crappiness has to be Bruce Springsteen's, "Born In The USA." The keyboards are the cheesiest ever, and the Boss wailing over it in that I've-really-got-to-take-a-dump voice of his is just too much, not to mention the full-on patriotic velveeta of the lyrics.

There are a few others that rankle me, like anything by Bon Jovi, but I think "USA" takes the cake.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 13:48

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I fully agree with ledded. The most puke inducing music on the planet. Especially 'thunder road'.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 14:57

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....did you know he was a draft dodger? Born In The USA ok. But won't fight for it. My 2 cents.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 15:06

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Ever see the Burns Doc 'The Vietnam War'? I wouldn't want to fight in that shit either. Government lies to you and knows it can't win, yet drafts it's young men into the meat grinder. Sign me up! :-P

Not a huge fan of Springsteen's music, but until your number comes up you never know what you will do.

This my country right or wrong jingo bullshit is how we ended up where we are now. Cough cough. USA!

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 15:57

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I would think that Bruce Springsteen has quite a few rivals in the awful record category in classic rock. Pity they don't have station for real rock n' roll. Or maybe surreal rock n' roll.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 17:03

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Born in the USA....now I’m no Bruce fan, yes he’s a good entertainer, and he wrote some good songs, but his actual talent as a musician etc is limited, and that band sounded like a wedding band, not a R&R band. But.....But, I really enjoyed his mostly solo On Broadway special. You could actually hear the lyrics and he is a good entertainer and story teller. He ought to perform like that all the time. And I’m not sure, but I believe Born In USA is actually an anti USA song not a wave that flag,....I think?

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Yes, I have heard that it was subversively a protest song. Looking at the lyrics I don't know how that could have been. It's quite obvious when you read them. Maybe since the only words anyone could probably understand was the refrain was why it became misunderstood as a 'patriotic' song. :-)

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I would like to add, I respect Springsteen as a songwriter. Like it or not, feel a part of it or not, he has given voice to a great number of Americans. I'm kind of iffy about that voice in totality, but I'm a big fan of songs like Cover Me, I'm On Fire, Brilliant Disguise, State Trooper (chilling!), Radio Nowhere and others.

It's a mixed bag and he's so prolific, I'd probably say I'm a real fan of 5 to 10 percent of his recorded output. Saw him live right after 9/11, and he only played like two hits and they were the cheese! Born To Run and the aforementioned nationalist jingo "USA." He'd just released that political album and spent so much time on the soapbox. Yes, I agree with his politics, but it was such a drag! We bought those tickets to go rock out live not attend a partisan rally.

The best songs are full of ambiguities and sometimes the writers themselves change their mind about what the words mean over time, and this is a good thing. "USA" touches on the horrors of war, but also that chorus was like a redneck Chevy truck commercial.

No matter. You don't generally get where Bruce is without learning a hell of a lot about your craft, working very hard and earning your connection to your audience. No disrespect to the Boss or any of his fans - I just can't take the "cheese."

\m/

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Submitted by The Outer One on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 19:51

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Our 4th of July if you were wondering. Eh.

Have a grateful weekend averyone and stay safe.

PS. Sounds like hockey is on it's way for those still interested! Can't wait!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 20:45

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Yeah, yeah, I agree, He supposedly has these great lyrics, but you can’t understand them especially over the smashing garbage can lids and Casio toy keyboard, or the overly eq’d piano., and three guitars mostly playing nothing....shit sounds like a wedding band to me, and no disrespect to the big man, but he wasn’t no Coltrane.... that’s why I dug that Solo On Broadway we saw on Netflix....you could actually hear the lyrics and he’d sometimes set up the songs or meanings. I’ve never been a fan, but in this format he was awesome!

EDIT: Happy Canada Day to our fine brothers and sisters in the great white north! (Cue the beer hunter music from the Great White North movie with Bob and Doug, hosers! ) Hey, I’m part Canadian so I can say that lol

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 20:53

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Hey Dennis & Billy The Kid...check your PM's....

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Today I had to drive into town (Flagstaff, AZ 90 miles one way) to pick up a new external Hard Drive as one of my drives ate it a couple of days ago...it was an 8TB drive that I've had for a few years...I learned the hard way about ten years ago of backing up the back ups so no music was lost, only time & Ca$h...my drive takes me through Ponderosa Pine forests as I climb up and over the south end of the San Francisco Peaks, but even at that altitude and forest we're pretty much considered high desert...so I played this anniversary show, a Hunter Seamons Matrix...

GRATEFUL DEAD
SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM
SEATTLE, WA
JULY 1, 1979

JERRY GARCIA - Lead Guitar, Vocals
MICKEY HART - Drums
BILL KREUTZMANN - Drums
PHIL LESH - Electric Bass, Vocals
BRENT MYDLAND - Keyboards, Vocals
BOB WEIR - Rhythm Guitar, Vocals

CD ONE
1 - TUNING (3:47)
2 - MISSISSIPPI HALF-STEP UPTOWN TOODELOO > (8:31)
3 - FRANKLIN’S TOWER (13:33)
4 - MAMA TRIED > (2:34)
5 - MEXICALI BLUES (5:55)
6 - PEGGY-O (9:53)
7 - MINGLEWOOD BLUES (8:25)
8 - STAGGER LEE (8:12)
9 - EL PASO (5:50)
10 - BROWN EYED WOMEN (7:15)
11 - PASSENGER (5:51)

CD TWO
1 - TUNING (2:00)
2 - DON’T EASE ME IN (5:09)
3 - SAMSON AND DELILAH (11:32)
4 - SUGAREE (16:38)
5 - TERRAPIN STATION > (12:03)
6 - PLAYING IN THE BAND > (13:53)
7 - DRUMS > (9:27)

CD THREE
1 - SPACE > (3:43)
2 - STELLA BLUE > (10:42)
3 - TRUCKIN’ > (9:29)
4 - AROUND AND AROUND (11:10)
5 - SHAKEDOWN STREET (8:40)

Mission successful ...new drive in hand and my ears are ringing...

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 02:54

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Nappyrags, thank you for sending me that information on the Workingmans dead outakes. I tried to send you a pm back about it , but I don't know that it went through. I downloaded the file you sent me but my Kindle Fire would'nt let me open it. I'm not very computer savy, so it's probably something I did wrong. I'm much better with a pick and shovel then I am with a computer. Anyways, thanks again man.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 03:17

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Thanks JRF,,,, let me wipe the tears, there, better. Great cover, great guitar by Tom. A few years back there was a special "music cares". They had people doing Bruce songs, while thanking him. Anyway, Tom Morello and Jim James (from My Morning Jacket), knock this bitch out of the park with jamming at the end. (Alabama Shakes did an incredible job on Adam Raise a Cain)

All the Bruce talk yesterday and it seemed not much Bruce love here :-) I like Bruce (I have to, I'm from Jersey), but really I found Bruce at a low point in my life and his songs gave me hope. And Darkness on the Edge of Town, maybe his best album. The River next. (is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worst). His happier songs (bouncy?) remind me of the roller rink, and I grew up there. :-)

Tonight I'll be on that hill 'cause I can't stop,
I'll be on that hill with everything I got,
With lives on the line where dreams are found and lost,
I'll be there on time and I'll pay the cost,
For wanting things that can only be found
In the darkness on the edge of town.

Nappy - Thanks for email, down and done. FYI - I too just bought a new HD. Got a 10tb Seagate. My old one didn't croak, but I outgrew (kinda). In any event, now I got some working room :-)

We got any old main frame computer people out there? IBM 360 days. The old 2314's disk units were 30 meg drives and they were about the size of a washing machine and ran 200,000 bucks each. Today 10TB sits on the corner of my desk!!! Progress!!

Final Jeopardy question - Is a 10 TB drive heavier when full?

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 03:38

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I was actually watching a concert on blu ray with Bruce Springsteen in the band earlier this week - the so called Black and White Night by Roy Orbison. Bruce sings back up vocals and plays perfectly adequate rhythm guitar. He doesn't come off too well trading solos with James Burton-but apart from Albert Lee, I can't think of anyone who would.

He also co-wrote the immortal Because the Night with, and of course sung by Patti Smith. One of the great singles of the late 70s. I have never heard any of his albums though. The bits and bobs I have heard by him with his band don't sound too promising, I have to say.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 07:29

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Well, you all have forced me to chime in. My first reaction to the negative Springsteen dialogue was to get defensive. Thankfully, I remembered that we all don’t have to like the same music all the time. I dislike a number of bands discussed here, but never felt a great need to bring it up.
I was mid-late teens when Bruce released his first few albums, so lyrically, I could relate( a LOT). Being an east coast kid helped also(I believe). He is not a technically great musician, but as a showman, I put him way, way up there. Some of my favorite parts of his shows were the between song stories he told. I could really relate. And this “wedding band” stuff. I don’t agree, but usually, when people slam stuff they don’t like or understand, they use these typically pejorative generalizations.
I always loved his use of organ & piano live, it sounded fantastic to me. And the band had at times, a stone heavy “Neanderthal” thump, which I also liked. In any case, after The River album, I was pretty much done with Bruce, I no longer related as much to the lyrics, and he did get REAL poppy.
Sometimes I think one has to hear an artist at just the right time & place to “get it”.
It was good to hear from DAVEROCK, who’s opinion I always respect. I believe that some bands don’t cross over well, UK to US, and vice-versa. Not sure why, but it may be culturally driven. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE , a ton of UK & European bands, yet others, I just don’t get. No big deal I suppose.
We (thankfully) are all allowed to like & dislike whatever bands we choose. In this forum, we generally share a lot of the same likes. So, I don’t really feel the need to defend Bruce, I still pretty much only listen to the first 5 albums.
But it’s in the WAY that some folks deride, that shows a bias & maybe even a little bitterness.
When it comes to music, I’m only about beauty, love, and especially, discovery.
That Tom Joad clip gave me goose flesh, and the lyrics are so appropriate TODAY!!

P.S. one of my favorite things about music is I get to listen & love so many different styles. The Beatles, GFR, Black Sabbath, Miles Davis, Cream, Steppenwolf, John Coltrane, Terry Riley, XTC, The Grateful Dead(!!), Bill Frisell, Johnny Cash, The Carter Family, Steve Reich, Kraftwerk, Iron & Wine, James Gang, Deep Purple, Doc Watson, Steve Marcus, Jack DeJohnette...I really could go on for days.
Music is the BEST!!!!!!
C’mon WD 50th, and Dave’s 35!!
Stay safe and healthy all.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 08:21

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Well said. I'll never understand why some feel the need to shit on things, especially something so subjective as music, ... other than they love to get a negative reaction from others. It's gotten pretty thorny around here lately.

We all learned it through fairy tales, but it still holds true today: Don't feed the trolls.

Peace

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 09:44

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Born In the U.S.A.--Incredibly powerful ANTI-jingoist song. The fact that it comes across as a wrap-your-head-in-the-flag anthem is part of its brilliance. The song is actually coming down on jingoists who exhort us into war, then crap all over the soldiers by voting for politicians who strip away veteran benefits.

Please listen to Bruce's first two albums, THEN tell me you don't care for him! :)

Has he gotten schlocky since Tunnel of Love? In my mind, yes. But to discredit everything through Tunnel is a bit drastic. Not many rockers put out great albums for decades and decades . . . and check out some of his 70s live shows. Wow.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 10:47

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Dennis, thank you very much. I hope you have a great day.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 11:04

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Mr Ones - spot on as usual. It seems true that music I have liked for decades is at least partly due to the time and place when I first heard it. Maybe great music needs a receptive listener to make it truly make it great. And to criticize an artist shows the limitations of the listener rather than the musician concerned.
A lot of music I liked as a teenager still sounds great to me - but if I played it to one of my friends who is over 60, who had never heard it before, I am sure they wouldn't get it. Albums like "Electric Warrior" Paranoid" and "Space Ritual" weren't made with retired people in mind. But if you were 16 and its 1973...
I would also agree that some music travels better abroad than others.

Billy the Kid...thanks for posting that clip showing Jerry jamming with James Burton. Great stuff - I have never seen that before.

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 11:28

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Still waiting for Dap 34. It's a bummer. 63 days have gone since shipping.
Having a Hebedanz Anna-Fest Bier to compensate.
Just Listened to 1971-07-02, Fillmore West. It was also a great year. I really enjoyed!!!
Gerd

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Submitted by deadegad on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 12:22

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Yes it is not really jingoist, Born in the U.S.A., and I do like Bruce S.. Yet I do understand that not everyone does. Criticism is fine and often funny. That Lee Greenwood song is not really jingoistic either but rather it is just kind of corny. No offense intended to anyone.

P.S. Bruce's Gypsy Biker is quite a good anti-war song (Iraq) and very moving.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 12:54

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Good call! Man, it's been forever since I tuned that one in. Probably on tape, an early show to my collection.

Thanks for mentioning.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 13:14

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Shipping notice 5/26. Actually shipped 6/22. I was watching the street, but missed the mail carrier, so it sat for a spell in a black mailbox in the direct sun on the hottest, sunniest MN day yet this summer. Hope the vinyl didn't melt! #2017.

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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Fri, 07/03/2020 - 09:14

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Hello, I recently got a Spring 1990 The Other One Box except it came without the 144 page book. I was wondering If anyone had an extra book they would be willing to sell me here. I see individual shows from this set posted on eBay from time to time so assume they may be out there. If you got an extra or know where to find one please PM me. Many thanks

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 07/03/2020 - 09:55

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Big Hello to JRF and thanks for that awesome TJ with Morello. One of those instances when it caught me off guard and just right.

BILLY THE KID: ditto, thanks for the awesome postS. Can you see how happy Jerry was? I swear as magnificent as the Dead is I sometimes feel I’d rather watch JG with other folks in low profile situations, which is what I did for a while after your Sweetwater songs. Los Lobos, Santana, you name it he could step in and just fly. Think back to all the awesome projects he was working on in the later years that had little or nothing to do with the Dead and it’s really quite a list of really great stuff. As has been speculated before.....have to wonder what might of been if they would have just taken some time off and/or not toured so much. Did the Dead inadvertently kill Jerry?...

6/21/84: I was there, and don’t recall much except we dropped right on the international border going over the peace bridge, and yeah, that was a blistering Scarlet/Fire, oh and the Band was good, and fun on the encores including I think my first Big Boss Man?

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