Dave’s Picks Volume 34: Jai Alai Fronton, Miami, FL 6/23/74

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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May 19, 2020 - 11:31am

#1241

Oroborous

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What ever the reason...

if it turns out to be a mass defect and not just a few unfortunate individual cases, then it’s BS and they should at least investigate if not replace the discs like Jim said. What do they do now when you have a bad disc? ala PNW etc... I believe folks said they would just send discs?
Fortunately I’ve never had a big problem (perhaps 2 or 3 skips out of hundreds of discs) but I have had some discs that were hard to rip. I have excellent Exact Audio copy ripping SW and never have problems with other manufacturers discs. The 30 Trips music only addition took forever to rip some discs (not because of scratches or other physical anomaly’s). If not for the EAC I probably wouldn’t have been able to rip some at all! Interestingly, these problems have only been with more current rhino releases, NEVER any of my pre rhino Dead releases...
Back in 86, like Vguy, Sargent Peppers was the second CD I ever bought and though often the master tape used, the digital conversion and mastering on many early discs is lackluster, but at least every single disc from way back then still plays fine. So why then are these relative new discs bad, and why even today, does rhino have so many problems and defects?
Yes Charlie you have a valid point IF the problems were rare, and if the sample sizes were small, but that hasn’t seemed to be the case. It just doesn’t seem like such widespread, repeating issues anywhere else? Maybe the fault rates aren’t that unusual and it’s just because we’re all so vigilant and vocal here, thus we think it’s a bigger problem then normal?
All I know is these rhino releases are pretty much the only discs I’ve had problems with since 1986 when I bought my first CD player...truly hope this is just another small sample and not a systemic problem or things are going to get weird around here....
May 19, 2020 - 11:11am

#1242

billy the kid

Joined:
December 3, 2019

Charlie3

All my cds were acquired by subscription through deadnet. They were all stored in the same box and it seems like it is only the first 4 Dave s Picks that are a problem. I played Dave s Picks 5 and it is fine, thank goodness, Dave s 5 was stored right next to the first 4.
May 19, 2020 - 11:09am

#1243

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Disappearing ink

That’s what Rhino used to ‘write’ these CD’s.

It should come as no surprise that some of the CD’s are bad. Pretty much every release has defective discs that have to be replaced. Some were probably slightly defective but got worse with handling/storage conditions.

But don’t panic too much yet. Take a CD that now appears defective and make a copy to a HD, then listen to the files. They might be OK.
I have had it both ways with Rhino CD’s, for example, last year I bought RT Fall 77 when someone pointed out that it was being sold with the bonus disc. All the CD’s played fine on my Onkyo CD player, but were defective when I made copies on my HD. But, each copy on the HD was defective in different places. I used 2 computers and 2 different CD burners to make a total of 7 copies on a HD. I was then able to piece together a complete RT (actually broke up the tracks by date) using the 7 copies, which had defects in different places.

6-17-76 CD3, notorious for Rhino having to redo the CD twice. My CD3 that had skips and static when played on my Onkyo CD player ripped flawlessly to a HD on the first try.

Skull Fuck - Golden Road Box, plays fine on my Onkyo but I could never get a good copy on a HD, it always had skips and static.

I’ll check my DaP’s this weekend to see if they have degraded (I’m back at work this week which is good, but now I don’t get to listen to as much GOGD during the day as I did over the last 2 months).
May 19, 2020 - 11:03am

#1244

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

DaP 2012 storage

I have a grand piano and guitars. My home is kept between 45-55% humidity all year and the temp. is kept constant between 64 and 72 degrees.

I purchased all of the discs through Dead.net and am the original owner of all the discs. My DaP discs are kept in their original cases and the amount of play over the life of each disc is less than 30-40 hours on each disc.
May 19, 2020 - 10:52am

#1245

Charlie3

Joined:
September 21, 2015

Jim

Yeah, absolutely a mess and a bummer. Given that not all of these 2012 DaP discs seem to have failed, I'm just curious about the storage and handling conditions for the discs that have failed and if they were acquired directly through deadnet or had passed through a few hands on the secondary market. It could very well turn out that deadnet or Rhino made some questionable choices but I haven't seen anything to indicate that at this point, so I'm just reserving judgment on blame. Definitely the stuff of nightmares for an OCD CD collector.
May 19, 2020 - 10:43am

#1246

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

I Hear That

I hear that Charlie.. not saying this was a purposeful act, in fact I suspect Rhino might not have even pulled the trigger. I haven't had the time to check my discs yet.. but if all this is true, it is a bit of a mess.

I look at it more like that bad batch of PVC piping that had to be replaced in everyone's homes or the decade or so the sheetrock from China was subpar.
May 19, 2020 - 10:40am

#1247

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

DaP 2 Update

Not playing at all :-(

My next step after getting through 3 and 4 will be to move on to other players. I should stop reporting now unless others begin to report issues. I have everything digitized but I would love replacement discs! I would not need any packaging! How many think that could really happen?

Worse things in the world, but...

Moving on to 3.
May 19, 2020 - 10:29am

#1248

Charlie3

Joined:
September 21, 2015

Wow...

...I think of myself as pretty cynical but I'm not seeing the reported disc degradation as evidence of some deadnet/Rhino plot to scam us out of our money for an inferior product. Is it possible some of these discs were stored in poor conditions? Is it possible that even a reliable manufacturer has unforeseen problems leading to failure of the product 8 years later? Is it possible deadnet/Rhino did not just find the cheapest fly-by-night outfit they could find to manufacture these discs? Do they deserve any benefit of the doubt? If I'm ever on trial accused of a crime, I hope you guys aren't on the jury.
May 19, 2020 - 10:01am

#1249

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

bad discs

This is hard to swallow, what can be done about this? I have every one of these Dave's discs and have never opened them, now what, will they play? will they rot? will the sun shine on my back door someday? I have purchased every box set since the europe 72 box and I think I will put them all up on ebay now. what to do about these Dave's? I think I too have bought my last Dave's subscription, what a shame I do love the Grateful Dead so. Funny, I have disc's I purchased in the early 90's that still look and play great, why have these gone bad in just 8 years? Sounds like an investigation is warranted, can we all get a refund for these discs? can anyone who works here or at rhino check on that for us please. Hey Dave, will you address this, they have your name on them, if I was in this position, I would demand an investigation as to why the greatest music ever made has been put on inferior media. Wow, this is real bad for Rhino and Dead net.
I was right all along, Rhino is a lousy music company. I am done with Rhino. Greed rules again. I guess the only way to keep getting new Dead music is to get a copy from a friend, rip it right away and give it back, that way you get the great music we all love and don't get ripped off in the process. It just doesn't make since, spend all that time to remaster all these releases and then put them on subpar media, who's stupid idea was that? some suit who works at rhino and can only see $ signs? I guess we can all just buy vinyl, or has Rhino put all of that music on faulty media too? Who knows, we might never know but one thing is for sure, Rhino and Dead net just lost a buttload of trust and probably more than one customer. First Trump, then Corona, now Grateful Dead music on shitty discs, the world is truly coming to an end. Oh wait that caveat emptor thing might cover their asses on Dicks picks, is that same caveat emptor on Dave's as well? Don't recall seeing that on any of those.
May 19, 2020 - 9:54am

#1250

JimInMD

Joined:
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Not Saying They Will

..but They could replace just the discs and not the packaging without breaking the bank.

They could even finance it with a special ala cart release like Nightfall of Diamonds. Think of the goodwill that would produce, and in the end it's the right thing to do.

Three comments:
- They could replace just the discs.
- How much was saved by switching to whatever production decision was made to get lesser quality blanks.
- I suspect this was outsourced and the decision to go cheap was made by whoever they outsourced it to.

John Perry Barlow

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

Ohhhh okay kcj

. How’s it hanging! Hope all is well 👌🏻

Mas info...

https://lnk.to/theangelsshare?eml=2020July1/5029660/6131962&etsubid=394…

The Angel's Share

So can we buy it or what?

I wanna keep it forever and ever...

Old school, I know but streaming isn't permanent.

Dead outakes

I wonder if they will put a physical copy out of this.

The Angel's Share....

....very interesting. Stream only format. 2 1/2 hrs. Only 4 minutes deadicated to Cumberland though :(

Angel or Devil!?!

Agreed, don't see it anywhere.

I like physical copies also. NOTHING streams forever.

If it's being given away, send us a link to a mp3 location. (at minimum)

Maybe at the very minimum, send a link to DaP subscriptions. (oh, that maybe a little self serving, sorry)
But I have no fear, a link will be provided AND a resourceful Head will get them down and out.

Dead outakes

They said they found these in a bunch of unlabled boxes, maybe 6/17/75 and 6/11/69 were also in those boxes, or maybe more live 1970 shows.

Wish list for lost Soundboards

8/18/70
8/19/70

I’d be beyond thrilled if soundboards of these exist in our universe

Soundboard pipe dream

Port Chester November 70

Sitting in dentist office

Want to check out Angels Share
But gotta hear Bryan Adams muzak instead

"SUMMER OF '69"

GD 69 yes

Summer of '69

Nice synchronicity of having to listen to that slab of pure cheese in the dentist's office, because whenver I hear "Summer of '69" it's like having a tooth pulled.

I listen to classic rock radio in the background all day at work. I can't be too engaged in it, like constantly selecting and changing music, etc., so the local rock station just plays songs all day long. It's mostly ok, hell, they even play the Dead every once in awhile even if it's usually "Touch Of Grey."

Probably the cheesiest, absolutely most cringe-inducing vehicle of sonic crappiness has to be Bruce Springsteen's, "Born In The USA." The keyboards are the cheesiest ever, and the Boss wailing over it in that I've-really-got-to-take-a-dump voice of his is just too much, not to mention the full-on patriotic velveeta of the lyrics.

There are a few others that rankle me, like anything by Bon Jovi, but I think "USA" takes the cake.

Bruce/ledded

I fully agree with ledded. The most puke inducing music on the planet. Especially 'thunder road'.

Bruce the Juice....

....did you know he was a draft dodger? Born In The USA ok. But won't fight for it. My 2 cents.

Draft Dodger

Ever see the Burns Doc 'The Vietnam War'? I wouldn't want to fight in that shit either. Government lies to you and knows it can't win, yet drafts it's young men into the meat grinder. Sign me up! :-P

Not a huge fan of Springsteen's music, but until your number comes up you never know what you will do.

This my country right or wrong jingo bullshit is how we ended up where we are now. Cough cough. USA!

classic rock..ugh

I would think that Bruce Springsteen has quite a few rivals in the awful record category in classic rock. Pity they don't have station for real rock n' roll. Or maybe surreal rock n' roll.

Just a thought about..

Born in the USA....now I’m no Bruce fan, yes he’s a good entertainer, and he wrote some good songs, but his actual talent as a musician etc is limited, and that band sounded like a wedding band, not a R&R band. But.....But, I really enjoyed his mostly solo On Broadway special. You could actually hear the lyrics and he is a good entertainer and story teller. He ought to perform like that all the time. And I’m not sure, but I believe Born In USA is actually an anti USA song not a wave that flag,....I think?

oro

Yes, I have heard that it was subversively a protest song. Looking at the lyrics I don't know how that could have been. It's quite obvious when you read them. Maybe since the only words anyone could probably understand was the refrain was why it became misunderstood as a 'patriotic' song. :-)

Jingoistic-Cringe?!?!

Lee Greenwood: I'm Proud to be an American.

Atlantic City

I would like to add, I respect Springsteen as a songwriter. Like it or not, feel a part of it or not, he has given voice to a great number of Americans. I'm kind of iffy about that voice in totality, but I'm a big fan of songs like Cover Me, I'm On Fire, Brilliant Disguise, State Trooper (chilling!), Radio Nowhere and others.

It's a mixed bag and he's so prolific, I'd probably say I'm a real fan of 5 to 10 percent of his recorded output. Saw him live right after 9/11, and he only played like two hits and they were the cheese! Born To Run and the aforementioned nationalist jingo "USA." He'd just released that political album and spent so much time on the soapbox. Yes, I agree with his politics, but it was such a drag! We bought those tickets to go rock out live not attend a partisan rally.

The best songs are full of ambiguities and sometimes the writers themselves change their mind about what the words mean over time, and this is a good thing. "USA" touches on the horrors of war, but also that chorus was like a redneck Chevy truck commercial.

No matter. You don't generally get where Bruce is without learning a hell of a lot about your craft, working very hard and earning your connection to your audience. No disrespect to the Boss or any of his fans - I just can't take the "cheese."

\m/

In case you missed it...

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/grateful-dead-working…

Happy Canada Day!

Our 4th of July if you were wondering. Eh.

Have a grateful weekend averyone and stay safe.

PS. Sounds like hockey is on it's way for those still interested! Can't wait!

WTJ

Yeah, yeah, I agree, He supposedly has these great lyrics, but you can’t understand them especially over the smashing garbage can lids and Casio toy keyboard, or the overly eq’d piano., and three guitars mostly playing nothing....shit sounds like a wedding band to me, and no disrespect to the big man, but he wasn’t no Coltrane.... that’s why I dug that Solo On Broadway we saw on Netflix....you could actually hear the lyrics and he’d sometimes set up the songs or meanings. I’ve never been a fan, but in this format he was awesome!

EDIT: Happy Canada Day to our fine brothers and sisters in the great white north! (Cue the beer hunter music from the Great White North movie with Bob and Doug, hosers! ) Hey, I’m part Canadian so I can say that lol

Whoopeee....

Hey Dennis & Billy The Kid...check your PM's....

and by the way...

I prefer "Born In East L.A." ...because i was...

And by the way again...

Today I had to drive into town (Flagstaff, AZ 90 miles one way) to pick up a new external Hard Drive as one of my drives ate it a couple of days ago...it was an 8TB drive that I've had for a few years...I learned the hard way about ten years ago of backing up the back ups so no music was lost, only time & Ca$h...my drive takes me through Ponderosa Pine forests as I climb up and over the south end of the San Francisco Peaks, but even at that altitude and forest we're pretty much considered high desert...so I played this anniversary show, a Hunter Seamons Matrix...

GRATEFUL DEAD
SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM
SEATTLE, WA
JULY 1, 1979

JERRY GARCIA - Lead Guitar, Vocals
MICKEY HART - Drums
BILL KREUTZMANN - Drums
PHIL LESH - Electric Bass, Vocals
BRENT MYDLAND - Keyboards, Vocals
BOB WEIR - Rhythm Guitar, Vocals

CD ONE
1 - TUNING (3:47)
2 - MISSISSIPPI HALF-STEP UPTOWN TOODELOO > (8:31)
3 - FRANKLIN’S TOWER (13:33)
4 - MAMA TRIED > (2:34)
5 - MEXICALI BLUES (5:55)
6 - PEGGY-O (9:53)
7 - MINGLEWOOD BLUES (8:25)
8 - STAGGER LEE (8:12)
9 - EL PASO (5:50)
10 - BROWN EYED WOMEN (7:15)
11 - PASSENGER (5:51)

CD TWO
1 - TUNING (2:00)
2 - DON’T EASE ME IN (5:09)
3 - SAMSON AND DELILAH (11:32)
4 - SUGAREE (16:38)
5 - TERRAPIN STATION > (12:03)
6 - PLAYING IN THE BAND > (13:53)
7 - DRUMS > (9:27)

CD THREE
1 - SPACE > (3:43)
2 - STELLA BLUE > (10:42)
3 - TRUCKIN’ > (9:29)
4 - AROUND AND AROUND (11:10)
5 - SHAKEDOWN STREET (8:40)

Mission successful ...new drive in hand and my ears are ringing...

I had to come out of hiding...won't bother you, but for this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-c6GphpAeY
I'm not a huge Springsteen guy, but this rocks...
Be safe, be smart, be kind.

Nappyrags/ Workingman's Dead outakes

Nappyrags, thank you for sending me that information on the Workingmans dead outakes. I tried to send you a pm back about it , but I don't know that it went through. I downloaded the file you sent me but my Kindle Fire would'nt let me open it. I'm not very computer savy, so it's probably something I did wrong. I'm much better with a pick and shovel then I am with a computer. Anyways, thanks again man.

Angle Band/ The Stanley Brothers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WIHFxIQfSxc I saw Ralph Stanley open up for Bill Monroe back in 1980, very cool show . David Nelson and Sandy Rothman were both in the audience and Sandy Rothman got up and played with Bill Monroe.

JRF, Bruce & Nap-Man

Thanks JRF,,,, let me wipe the tears, there, better. Great cover, great guitar by Tom. A few years back there was a special "music cares". They had people doing Bruce songs, while thanking him. Anyway, Tom Morello and Jim James (from My Morning Jacket), knock this bitch out of the park with jamming at the end. (Alabama Shakes did an incredible job on Adam Raise a Cain)

All the Bruce talk yesterday and it seemed not much Bruce love here :-) I like Bruce (I have to, I'm from Jersey), but really I found Bruce at a low point in my life and his songs gave me hope. And Darkness on the Edge of Town, maybe his best album. The River next. (is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worst). His happier songs (bouncy?) remind me of the roller rink, and I grew up there. :-)

Tonight I'll be on that hill 'cause I can't stop,
I'll be on that hill with everything I got,
With lives on the line where dreams are found and lost,
I'll be there on time and I'll pay the cost,
For wanting things that can only be found
In the darkness on the edge of town.

Nappy - Thanks for email, down and done. FYI - I too just bought a new HD. Got a 10tb Seagate. My old one didn't croak, but I outgrew (kinda). In any event, now I got some working room :-)

We got any old main frame computer people out there? IBM 360 days. The old 2314's disk units were 30 meg drives and they were about the size of a washing machine and ran 200,000 bucks each. Today 10TB sits on the corner of my desk!!! Progress!!

Final Jeopardy question - Is a 10 TB drive heavier when full?

The big O

I was actually watching a concert on blu ray with Bruce Springsteen in the band earlier this week - the so called Black and White Night by Roy Orbison. Bruce sings back up vocals and plays perfectly adequate rhythm guitar. He doesn't come off too well trading solos with James Burton-but apart from Albert Lee, I can't think of anyone who would.

He also co-wrote the immortal Because the Night with, and of course sung by Patti Smith. One of the great singles of the late 70s. I have never heard any of his albums though. The bits and bobs I have heard by him with his band don't sound too promising, I have to say.

Billy the Kid

check you pm's

Good Music

Well, you all have forced me to chime in. My first reaction to the negative Springsteen dialogue was to get defensive. Thankfully, I remembered that we all don’t have to like the same music all the time. I dislike a number of bands discussed here, but never felt a great need to bring it up.
I was mid-late teens when Bruce released his first few albums, so lyrically, I could relate( a LOT). Being an east coast kid helped also(I believe). He is not a technically great musician, but as a showman, I put him way, way up there. Some of my favorite parts of his shows were the between song stories he told. I could really relate. And this “wedding band” stuff. I don’t agree, but usually, when people slam stuff they don’t like or understand, they use these typically pejorative generalizations.
I always loved his use of organ & piano live, it sounded fantastic to me. And the band had at times, a stone heavy “Neanderthal” thump, which I also liked. In any case, after The River album, I was pretty much done with Bruce, I no longer related as much to the lyrics, and he did get REAL poppy.
Sometimes I think one has to hear an artist at just the right time & place to “get it”.
It was good to hear from DAVEROCK, who’s opinion I always respect. I believe that some bands don’t cross over well, UK to US, and vice-versa. Not sure why, but it may be culturally driven. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE , a ton of UK & European bands, yet others, I just don’t get. No big deal I suppose.
We (thankfully) are all allowed to like & dislike whatever bands we choose. In this forum, we generally share a lot of the same likes. So, I don’t really feel the need to defend Bruce, I still pretty much only listen to the first 5 albums.
But it’s in the WAY that some folks deride, that shows a bias & maybe even a little bitterness.
When it comes to music, I’m only about beauty, love, and especially, discovery.
That Tom Joad clip gave me goose flesh, and the lyrics are so appropriate TODAY!!

P.S. one of my favorite things about music is I get to listen & love so many different styles. The Beatles, GFR, Black Sabbath, Miles Davis, Cream, Steppenwolf, John Coltrane, Terry Riley, XTC, The Grateful Dead(!!), Bill Frisell, Johnny Cash, The Carter Family, Steve Reich, Kraftwerk, Iron & Wine, James Gang, Deep Purple, Doc Watson, Steve Marcus, Jack DeJohnette...I really could go on for days.
Music is the BEST!!!!!!
C’mon WD 50th, and Dave’s 35!!
Stay safe and healthy all.

Jerry Garcia/ Sammy Hagar at the Sweetwater

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY6-kJlxwZc. The Sweetwater was a small bar up in Mill Valley, I saw Elizabeth Cotton play there once. Mitch Woods is on the piano, what a memorable night this would have been.

Dave Rock/ Jerry Garcia & James Burton

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAJuRK9x4No. There is one guy who can trade solos with James Burton.

@ Mr. Ones

Well said. I'll never understand why some feel the need to shit on things, especially something so subjective as music, ... other than they love to get a negative reaction from others. It's gotten pretty thorny around here lately.

We all learned it through fairy tales, but it still holds true today: Don't feed the trolls.

Peace

The Boss

Born In the U.S.A.--Incredibly powerful ANTI-jingoist song. The fact that it comes across as a wrap-your-head-in-the-flag anthem is part of its brilliance. The song is actually coming down on jingoists who exhort us into war, then crap all over the soldiers by voting for politicians who strip away veteran benefits.

Please listen to Bruce's first two albums, THEN tell me you don't care for him! :)

Has he gotten schlocky since Tunnel of Love? In my mind, yes. But to discredit everything through Tunnel is a bit drastic. Not many rockers put out great albums for decades and decades . . . and check out some of his 70s live shows. Wow.

Dennis

Dennis, thank you very much. I hope you have a great day.

Guten Tag y'all

6 21 84
4 27 84
9 2 68
3 3 68

Very good music

Mr Ones - spot on as usual. It seems true that music I have liked for decades is at least partly due to the time and place when I first heard it. Maybe great music needs a receptive listener to make it truly make it great. And to criticize an artist shows the limitations of the listener rather than the musician concerned.
A lot of music I liked as a teenager still sounds great to me - but if I played it to one of my friends who is over 60, who had never heard it before, I am sure they wouldn't get it. Albums like "Electric Warrior" Paranoid" and "Space Ritual" weren't made with retired people in mind. But if you were 16 and its 1973...
I would also agree that some music travels better abroad than others.

Billy the Kid...thanks for posting that clip showing Jerry jamming with James Burton. Great stuff - I have never seen that before.

Stoltzfus - Guten Abend - Happy You

Still waiting for Dap 34. It's a bummer. 63 days have gone since shipping.
Having a Hebedanz Anna-Fest Bier to compensate.
Just Listened to 1971-07-02, Fillmore West. It was also a great year. I really enjoyed!!!
Gerd

@Deadheadbrewer

Yes it is not really jingoist, Born in the U.S.A., and I do like Bruce S.. Yet I do understand that not everyone does. Criticism is fine and often funny. That Lee Greenwood song is not really jingoistic either but rather it is just kind of corny. No offense intended to anyone.

P.S. Bruce's Gypsy Biker is quite a good anti-war song (Iraq) and very moving.

7/2/71

Good call! Man, it's been forever since I tuned that one in. Probably on tape, an early show to my collection.

Thanks for mentioning.

Passenger 7" single finally arrived!

Shipping notice 5/26. Actually shipped 6/22. I was watching the street, but missed the mail carrier, so it sat for a spell in a black mailbox in the direct sun on the hottest, sunniest MN day yet this summer. Hope the vinyl didn't melt! #2017.

Hard to Handle /1970 festival express

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2PdTeIx04pI. 1970, my favorite year for the Dead, hands down.

1970

I got out 1 2 70 yesterday

GD70 is a top 5 year for sure

Rolling Stone made a list "we have a LIST"

Phil is #11 (the Eleven) on their "top 50 bassists"

Bonus points if you can name the sitcom quoted above

6 21 84 Scarlet Fire

Soooooo good

2 21 71 release with WD bonus disc

Getting closer

I shiver with antici........

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Box Set Book S90TOO

Hello, I recently got a Spring 1990 The Other One Box except it came without the 144 page book. I was wondering If anyone had an extra book they would be willing to sell me here. I see individual shows from this set posted on eBay from time to time so assume they may be out there. If you got an extra or know where to find one please PM me. Many thanks

First

Big Hello to JRF and thanks for that awesome TJ with Morello. One of those instances when it caught me off guard and just right.

BILLY THE KID: ditto, thanks for the awesome postS. Can you see how happy Jerry was? I swear as magnificent as the Dead is I sometimes feel I’d rather watch JG with other folks in low profile situations, which is what I did for a while after your Sweetwater songs. Los Lobos, Santana, you name it he could step in and just fly. Think back to all the awesome projects he was working on in the later years that had little or nothing to do with the Dead and it’s really quite a list of really great stuff. As has been speculated before.....have to wonder what might of been if they would have just taken some time off and/or not toured so much. Did the Dead inadvertently kill Jerry?...

6/21/84: I was there, and don’t recall much except we dropped right on the international border going over the peace bridge, and yeah, that was a blistering Scarlet/Fire, oh and the Band was good, and fun on the encores including I think my first Big Boss Man?

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