Dave’s Picks Volume 34: Jai Alai Fronton, Miami, FL 6/23/74

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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April 30, 2020 - 10:28am

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JimInMD

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Re: What's better 10/9 or 10/16

Clearly the last one listened to is the better show.
April 30, 2020 - 10:27am

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unkle sam

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dark stars, space, orange sunshine

or anything else that will get you to that place :) Give me all the strangeness, weirdness, just out of this worldness that can transpire during a dark star or drums>space or Playin' in the Band, I love it all and in my opinion we need the weirdness that is the out of this world sounds coming out of these songs. This was and still is my favorite part of the shows, there is never a drums>space>Dark Star TOO that I don't like. I was at a show too with a newbie and she asked me what they were doing during space, I did not answer until after the show because I did not want to miss any part of it, later, I told her that what they were doing was the best part of the show. She did not understand to say the least. She later got "it" and is now a die hard space head.
Just my opinion on another topic, 10-8 or 10-16? try 10/26, awesome dark star and just a fine show from Miami.
April 30, 2020 - 10:25am

#1853

mustin321

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April 8th 72

I've always loved this particular Dark Star from Europe 72. Very energetic and I love the dissonant chords Bobby adds near the end, which spins it off into Sugar Magnolia. Only the 2nd show of the tour, starting out strong.
April 30, 2020 - 9:55am

#1854

FiveBranch

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April 14 Tivoli is Holy

E’72 Dark Stars are fabulous.... got both the guts and the grace.

For the abstracted portions, I always keep in mind how those moments fit into the overall framework. Like before entry of the first verse when they are playing around with the basic chordal-rhythmic-melodic structure of the song without actually leaving it entirely behind. Or then afterward when they go freeform to search out new ground to stand upon. I actually find it helpful to have the time clocking on the TV so I can see where they are within the usual 30 minute structure. Keeps my listening focused. Otherwise it can be difficult to wrap my head around what went on between points A and B.

Personal favorite is first night in Denmark. Probably the most accessible too. First 15 minutes is a beautiful, slow build up to the 'dark star crashes' verse. Second 15 minutes revolves around the formation and deconstruction of a thrilling Feeling Groovy jam that slightly hints at TOO. Quite simple really when broken apart. Perfectly played and very, very alive. Sugar Magnolia appropriately follows.
April 30, 2020 - 8:50am

#1855

mustin321

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What's better? 10/9/89 vs 10/16/89

Sorry if this is an old debate, but several of my friends and I recently listened to both of these shows and were trying to decide which night was better. Both are obvioulsy amazing shows. But i'll do this every few years, give or take, and I always go with 10/16/89. Two of my friends chose 10/9/89 and another said that 10/8/89 is better than both...Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own
April 30, 2020 - 8:32am

#1856

icecrmcnkd

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Yeah Fourwinds

Count me as one of the people who likes Drums/Space.

I recorded video at FTW and made sure I got Space every night.

https://youtu.be/Oswmu2IOPEk
April 30, 2020 - 8:28am

#1857

icecrmcnkd

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Shipping? Or just hanging out?

Tracking shows that mine has been hanging out in Fontana, CA for 3 days.
April 30, 2020 - 8:27am

#1858

fourwindsblow

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icecrmcnkd

That's a great story, Loved it!

The crazier the better. Yes! haha
April 30, 2020 - 8:22am

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TimC722

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Shipping

@PKB, thanks! Now it shows everything. Hopefully coming Friday, just in time for the weekend.
April 30, 2020 - 8:17am

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icecrmcnkd

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Someone give Butch an orange sunshine

Everything should make sense then.

Those parts of Dark Star, Other One, MLBJ (6-28-74), some Playing in the Bands, are similar to what was called ‘Feedback’ in the 60’s.

Generally, the crazier it gets the more I like it. Probably because as a teenager I listened excessively to early Pink Floyd and found that the longer and stranger a song was, the more I liked it. Then I went to my first GD show and Drums/Space along with long jams showed me that there was something better than Pink Floyd. I dove onto that bus and never looked back.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

Second

Not sure if the negative rebuttals regarding the Boss are directed at me? But I feel I need to reply.
First, I said more positive things about him than negative. I emphatically stated he’s a great songwriter, entertainer/performer, storyteller, and that my understanding was that Born in the USA was a anti jingo song.
I also, like others, mentioned that his awesome talent is not so much as a musician, (meaning comparatively to say JG), but with these above mentioned awesome skills.
What I did say was that I’m just not a big fan, especially of the band, and more specifically I’ve never liked their sound. Jerry once said he couldn’t get into the Doors because they sounded too brittle to HIM....does that mean he’s just using a pejorative generalization? NO, it just means he didn’t like the way they sounded so couldn’t really get past that!
Same here folks! In fact if anyone is making generalizations it was not me. Some Rubes said some unsubstantiated down and dirty things about Bruce, but I actually tried to explain WHY I don’t like their sound, and thus have never been able to move past that, and therefore,.....here’s the funny part, the point I was ironically, really trying to express was how much his on Broadway solo performance on Netflix blew me away and changed my perspective!
So to assume I’ve never listened (I’ve listened to Bruce for over forty years wether I wanted to or not on the radio or elsewhere, including living with the misses for 23 years as she’s a huge fan!), so to make such an assumption : that I’ve not listened and thus don’t know what I’m talking about, just because I have a difference of opinion, is actually doing exactly what your accusing me of!
Also, I don’t think I was shitting on anything, and if I was, I apologize. I admit I could of been a tad less harsh, but if you know me that was some-what exaggerated for humorous affect, and yes, to hopefully elicit more discourse?
So I’m totally bummed that my personal colorful critique of a 80s pop band caused such a reaction. And yes, I understand most of his best work was before then, and he continued to do so well after the 80s, but to me, sorry, when somebody mentions Bruce, that’s my first thought, that Born in the USA thin pop sound, with no improvisation or any of the things I find important in music. And so yes, as people often do so as to hopefully make a point without having to ramble on like this and micro explain, I used a general phrase, wedding band, to make a point, but I can certainly continue to pontificate why I don’t like their sound etc if you like, but hopefully I’ve made my point. Simply, my personal opinion of WHY I don’t like them, so what?
Because as most here know, opinions are like A-holes, everyone’s got one, but some of ours work too much...
Again, I apologize for the way I expressed my opinion, but not that I expressed one. I mean come on, that’s a lot of what we do here, we express our thoughts, and hope we get positive feedback, or respectful discourse, which to me can be just as fun, bantering differing ideas about, than everybody always agreeing about everything....
So Mr Ones et el, I totally agree with everything you said up until you personally insulted me!
Buts it’s ok, it’s all good, I can take criticism. I’ve been taking it my whole life. It’s part of being a fuck up LOL
So peace be with you as LMG would say, and again, please except my apologies if I’ve offended anyone!

Can’t wait to wrest how this release will go!....

WORKINGMAN'S DEAD (50TH ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION)

...*** FOR THE COMMITTED
AND THE CURIOUS
Gather round every Thursday as we tell the tales of Grateful Dead days of yore! The Good Ol' Grateful Deadcast, the first official podcast of the Grateful Dead, is devoted to exploring the music and mythology behind one of the most enduring, progressive, and influential bands in the history of recorded music. Here, we invite you to delve into the band’s enormous mythology in digestible chunks. Think you know it all? We'll probe corners of the band’s history you never knew existed. No topic will be off limits.
Hosts Rich Mahan and Jesse Jarnow will take the lead, picking up special guests from the Dead universe along the way. Upcoming episodes will feature interviews with Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, David Nelson, Bill “Grateful Red” Walton and Trixie Garcia, amongst many others.
To celebrate the 50th anniversary of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, we're kicking things off with an eight-episode arch that examines each song on the album individually.
May the long strange trip continue across the pod! 🙏❤️💀🌹

Springsteen

I honestly don’t think anyone was out of line expressing their opinions. No need whatsoever for anyone to apologize.

For what it’s worth, I was never a fan. To steal a line I heard years ago; Springsteen is like my sex life. Lots of effort, but not much talent.

It’s the Fourth of July , so everyone should just relax and have a beer. No such luck for me. I agreed to join my underage daughter in a three month sabbatical from drinking and dessert. Poor timing for me, especially considering that our air-conditioning went out today.

Thanks for the Festival Express link. What a neat movie. My favorite part was when the camera panned the crowd and there was Garcia right up front watching another band perform. The other cool thing about the movie is the intensity on the band members’ faces. They were really into what they were doing.

Glug, glug.

My top 5 Grateful Dead years in order

1) 1970, 2) 1969, 3) 1971, 4) 1972, 5) 1973

Oro

As AJS stated, there’s no need for an apology. It is literally impossible to hurt my feelings, especially in writing. I love disagreement, and I’m not afraid of opinions opposite of my own.
I’ve re-read my post more than once, and I cannot see a “personal insult” to you or anyone else. One of the many points I was trying to convey was that there’s nothing wrong with disliking ANY artist, as was stated earlier, music and love of It is ENTIRELY subjective. I just don’t think we need to use adjectives that are detrimental. I can disagree with you about an artist, but that doesn’t make either one of us right or wrong. As Dan Fogelberg once said, “if even one person likes an artist, that legitimizes that artist“. I really did not want to stir the pot.
So please, don’t apologize to me. Unless you steal something from me, it’s not necessary.
And besides Oro, I enjoy 98% of your posts. Keep ‘em coming. Arguments are ok, respectful arguments are better. And besides, you don’t want to make me list another 30 or 100 artists I like!!

Yo Dave

6 21 84

Oroborous asked the question

"Did the Grateful Dead inadvertently kill Jerry? That's a good question and one that has been asked many times and discussed alot over the last 25 years. Wow, 25 years since Jerrbear left us. In my opinion, Jerry loved to party and play and be in the moment, the Grateful Dead fed that jones right up to the end. He loved us all so much, he played until he couldn't play anymore, and still kept trying. Did the Dead help in his demise? perhaps, but it was also all of it, the life, the drugs, the parties, the pressure....it's hard to say except that I still miss him dearly. Love you Jer
I sometimes wonder to myself what the world would be like if Jerry was still alive, I believe he had a calming effect on the universe and when he left us, a lot of that kind, calm went with him.

Thanks Daverock for the CD's, Tangerine Dream weekend coming up.

Jerry

That energy that Jerry manifested at his highest resonance is still beaming down, and there are plenty of others who are attuned to it. The Dalai Lama, maybe. Try and get on that higher plane. Garcia was an exceptionally strong receiver, with a background full of intense psychedelic experiences. He was completely open. That can be a difficult existence and it's probably why he dove so headlong into narcotics.

The band talked about getting off the road more so Jerry could heal. But really, that book was already written and it was always going to end the way it did. The important thing is we still have the music. I'm comfortable saying Jerry Garcia gave his life to, and for, the music.

Fare Thee Well Marathon

You folks are probably aware of this. Honoring the fifth anniversary, Fans is webcasting all three Chicago Fare Thee Well performances this Sunday morning starting at 9 am ET.

https://fans.com/livestream/20200705-fare-thee-well/?utm_source=2020070…

Not sure if it's still happening, but dead.net put some of the FTW media on sale 40% off. I waited five years eying the box set and pounced!

Stay well , all and happy fourth celebration of our democracy.

7/1/78 - Arrowhead scream

The 2nd set 'the other one' has a perfectly placed scream at 2:10. Is this donna or a fan. It's pretty awesome. It must be donna.

Arrowhead Scream

Maybe one of my relatives...I can’t be held responsible.

Today...been hittin up that St Paul show from 7/3/78

Oro...have you checked your PM?

Sam

Best heard horizontally.

My top 5 Grateful Dead songs

Well, my list is now down to the top 5. In no particular order, Dire Wolf, Uncle John's Band, Cumberland Blues, Easy Wind and Ripple Next week we will annouce the final top two. Stay tuned, as the anticipation mounts.

The coin toss

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=opbi7d42s8E. Happy 4th everybody.

Wave That Flag

Happy 4th to the great Dead fan base here from your friends North of the 49th. Whatever the other 193 nations fling your way, we know there is no better and loyal compadre than the USA. FIrst to lend a hand up, not a push down, so wave that flag, so much to be proud of! Like the Dead, maybe the odd wrong note or off show, but overall, in a class by itself! Cheers!

Kongressaal 72

Holding to my defiant tradition of not playing shows on their anniversary dates, today's random pic was 5/18/72. Just exactly perfect on this sunny Southern California afternoon.

Stay safe, gang.

Top five songs currently....

....all Neil Young songs. If you read the news, you know why.

Neil...

Therez onlee one

1983...

a merman I should turn to be

Excellent track

The Good< The Bad and The Ugly....

RIP Ennio Marricone, composer extraordinaire....earlier today at the age of 91....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLXerVcygWc

Dave's Picks #35

This is the presale week, correct?
Who has some info? ….hoping for 7/13/84 PLEAS

I literally couldn't believe it....

....was browsing Netflix yesterday when i saw that they have Airplane!. It had been a while since i've seen it so i fired it up. Wife walks in and asks, "What's this your watching?" "Airplane!', i said. "What?" was her response. Blown away. My wife had never seen Airplane!. Well, i was up to the task and took care of that scary situation. My wife's sense of humor is odd to say the least, and i think many of the jokes went over her head, but she enjoyed it.
"Looks like i picked wrong week to stop sniffing glue."

Ennio

My dads first name.

Charlie Daniels/ RIP

Charlie Daniels opened for the Grateful Dead on 4/22/79, at Spartan Stadium. He also played on Bob Dylan's Nashville Skyline album.

Anyone else still waiting?

Still waiting on 34, am I alone?

RV3

How much do you want to bet Dave messes with our expectations and chooses 7/14 or 7/15? :-) LOL

Dogon You're Not Alone

ME TOO!!!!

Rollout date for #35?

Last year Dave’s #31 was announced on the 2nd Tuesday of July...7/16/19. So could we see the rollout for DaP 35 a week from tomorrow? Tomorrow never knows, as the song goes

Dogon & Gratefulgerd

Still waiting here in Italy

6 14 84

Disc 2

Wow

2 21 71 release with WD bonus disc

Closer...closer...

Jerry Garcia talks about Neal Cassady

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C4poeNfbEkE. Cowboy Neal at the wheel.

Gerd/when in Rome

So I am in very good company!
Ciao

Workingmans shipping notice received

Tracking not yet available.

Hoping to be playing 2-21-71 this Saturday.

WMD

Hoping to get mine too.. I've listened to the 2/21/71 Capitol show a couple times, but not in it's Full-Norman, Plangentized glory.

A quick sidebar, did a family camping trip at an isolated place in the mountains near home and felt a little pleasure using my WMD's hatchet cutting hickory just to fire the still (and feed the campfire). I needed one anyway, why not a high-end Swedish made mini-axe. A little pricey but not much (if any) more expensive than buying one of their standard, non WMD versions.. They seem to be quite well made. Yes, I know.. a little tacky my brother noticed and it cracked him up, to me it was worth it just for that. Something else to be made fun of during the holidays.

We should celebrate Working Mans Dead, a great album and the beginning of one of the greatest periods of Grateful Dead music. Consider me one of those that considers Dicks Picks 8 one of the greatest releases and among the best shows ever performed. 1970 was a peak year and I personally love the songwriting from that period. Classic Americana Grateful Dead.

Rant over, back to your regularly scheduled Day Job encore.

*RE/ Dylan & The Grateful Dead

*Listen back to Bob Dylan and The Grateful Dead’s mammoth 74 track rehearsal session, 1987!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bob-dylan-the-grateful-dead-rehearsal-sess…

https://archive.org/details/gd1987-06-01.sbd-rehearsals.fraser.97489.sh…

...I mentioned this when the ‘Giants’ Boxset was
first released. This is PRIMO! I Love it my brothers and sisters, PRIMO! ;) keep on truck’n & remember to Smile Smile Smile everyone because you love the Grateful Dead & the Grateful Dead Loves You!!! 🙏❤️💀🌹

Garcia Volume 14 bonus disc

Looks like it is available again, just ordered it. Tried to on first day but no bonus disc... bob t

Road Trips - Oakland 1979

Like a lot of you i've been filling in some gaps in my library by picking up the re-released road trips from Real Gone Music. Oakland 1979 just landed so im taking it for a spin now. This one sounds great and is a nice companion to the recent Dave's from Uptown in Chicago a few weeks before. I have to say that the Road Trips sound quality is much better than the Uptown show and there seems to be more energy to this performance than Uptown.

Set 1 starts off with a 16 minute Sugaree. Set 1 is only 7 songs but there's some good playing. Second set starts off with a nice Alabama -> Greatest Story and im listening to a nice Terrapin -> Playing right now. Im glad i picked this one up.

Re: Slow Dog

Right on man.. it sounds great, it's one of the few Betty Boards from '79. That and Dicks Picks Picks 5, 12/26/79 are must haves and make great companions. When DiP 5 came out, on my first listen.. I was totally floored. 12/28 to my ears is not quite as good, but at a certain point we are splitting hairs. If it speaks to you, it's good.

Glad you got it or how does the saying go, so glad you made it....

Slow Dog Noodle/ 12/28/79

Slow Dog, I was at that show, it was blast!

Dire Wolf/ 12/28/83. San Francisco Civic

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJi54s3HwTU. The Dead blew the roof off the S. F. Civic this night, this show was a killer! Dave & Co. could release this show and 12/30/83 and it would make a far out boxset! As far as I'm concerned, this is as cool as anything from any era of the Grateful Dead.

Charlie D

Charlie Daniels was a chauvinist and racist. I know I won't miss him. Good riddance!! He was nothing like Jerry.

La Dee Dah...

Picked up a used Dick's Pick No 8 today for $20 at my fave used bookshop in town today...also filled some gaps in my classical collection...I'm a cello buff so I got some goodies for $5 a pop....didn't have to spend any $$$ either... a friend who had lived here in the park for nearly 37 years moved to Prescott and left us a ton of books...we went through them, kept a bunch and took the rest to the bookstore where I got a couple of hundred bucks in trade credit...whee!!!!...and it's a celebration day as my Oncologist gave me the good to go (ten years cancer free now) so I think I'll order Dickus Pickus 33...now that was a great weekend even if we did nearly die on the way home going down Highway 99 ...ahhh youth and stupidity go hand in hand....

Congrats Nappy

Great News. And the DiP 8 score is great too.. perhaps the best of the best???

Nappy Rags/ Congratulations

Nappy Rags, congratulations man, that is good news!

why thankeee...

Billy & Jim...this one was a little nerve wracking to say the least...three weeks ago I got my annual C-Scan and was told there was something showing in one of the areas (aortic lymph nodes) that had been a problem in my original diagnosis...so I've been kinda going around the house hoping and hoping...today I had a pet scan done which showed no sign of any cancer...it was weird watching the scan on screen seeing my insides lit up like that....whew!!!

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