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    Hello Sunshine Daydream and Tiger Lilly
    Seems like this late night guy in the western U.S. is just signing off when you are signing on in the a.m.Good Morning to you both and to cosmicbadger whenever he gets up and around to here. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. Wiliam Blake
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    Hello Old Hippie A vine is a chain of people copying and then passing on a master set of CDs/DVDs containing (in this case) good quality/rare shows. Go to the following place for more information on current Vines in Europe . . Home » Forums » Dead Heads » Tapers >Vines Across the Waters Detailed Explanations of how it works are on Page 3 of the forum There are two Eurovines going at the moment with a few more to start soon. You may have to search back through the forum for the start point of any vine to see full listings of what it contains. Make sure that when you add your name you do so to the last posting on any particular vine. Good luck!
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    I read about a vine being set up. As I am quite new in this community I would like somebody explain to me what a vine is and how it works.
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    We live near Amsterdam. We live on a sailboat very close to the beach.Let us know when you come to Amsterdam.
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    Hey Tiger Lilly, how is Spain? What part are u in? A bit more sunshine than back here in Germany huh!? :) And Old Hippie, what part of Holland are u in? I'm in Hamburg, not far from Holland! I might head over to the 'Dam in a weeks time after I take care of a few important bits and pieces! :) Are you kind?
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    Have seen a documentary once about the Touareg and their music-or I think were called that-some are from what is now Mali, right? Anyhow was really fascinating music and "exceptionally impressive" like you said. And talking about ancient folk music, have really been enjoying a c.d. I have of Mongolian folk music these days. The voice singing in two tones, and natural rhythms of the steppes are really great! Perhaps I should vine it, if anybody is interested?********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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    Just read the post from Cliffl. He mentioned Tinariwen. For those who don't know this group it is a group of Touareg playing traditional and self written songs on electric guitars and traditional instuments. Very traditinal music with hardly any Western influences. We saw a show in The Melkweg in Amsterdam and we enjoyed it very much. There was a lady singer. She wore no veil but a big scarf that sometimes covered her hair, but mostly it was draped around her shoulders. The men were completely veiled, even when they were singing. It was an exceptional impressive show. Their CD is certainly worth listening to if you like the music from Northern Africa.
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    Hi,I live in Holland and for many long years I have been a fan of the Grateful Dead. It started with Workingman’s Dead in 72. Slowly I collected more records and later CD's. I have never seen them live. Therefore I missed the whole scene with the crowd and the chance to meet other Dead Heads. About ten years ago I met another Dead Head in a music store and we started exchanging CD's. After I while we had the whole official collection complete. By that time I got fast Internet and I discovered the sites with the taped shows. I was really amazed that there were still so many people that are as much a Dead Head as I am. Many even more so. I thought for a long time that I was still stuck in my youth refusing to grow up. I realize now that this is more then a childish thing. The music is both sereous and joyful. Luckily my partner is as much into this as I am. We enjoy listening to the music with earphones on. If someone passes by there is deep silence with once in a while an exclamation of: “Great, huh?”. What we miss are other people to share what we enjoy. I have read in the Taper’s Compendium of sessions where the music is played to a group of people. Only once we went to a show in the Melkweg in Amsterdam where The Movie would be featured. But the tape was in such bad condition that the show was cancelled. I wonder if there are more Dead Heads in Holland I would like to get in contact. Maybe we can try to organise a session in or near Amsterdam. Please let me know if you are out there.
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    Boom, boom! ...but seriously, I have to check out Switzerland AND Brussels!!! Just finished a big tour around Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus and Russia! Did gigs in Tallinn, Minsk and Brest and just roamed around the rest meeting far out folks! Crazy to play gigs in a dictatorship! I'll post some vids from that on youtube later this week. Highlights: Not getting arrested for playing freedom music in Belarus, even after doing a medley on the street in front of the Presidents Palace and having it videoed. Hitching a ride on a boat to cross a river I didn't see on the map in rural Estonia and not missing the bus I was trying to catch. Having a Belarus soldier help me out taking me around Brest even letting me wear his army hat for a photo op in front of T-34 tanks at a war memorial. Finding out there really are good folks out there, everywhere, who are "on to IT"! :) Are you kind?
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    I was there in 1971 when I was in grad school. I really liked it. What's it like these days?
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Gather here and tell us your stories! And thanks to TigerLilly for the suggestion!
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Spanish Bob does it again! Spanish Bob does it again!
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Montreuil (métro Mairie de Montreuil) célèbre le Summer of Love jusqu'à fin octobre. Le programme complet est àhttp://bib.quoideneuf.free.fr/article-programme-summeroflove.htm Ne ratez pas le concert de Deadicace le 8 septembre, avec la présence annoncée de Barry Melton ! --------------------- Montreuil (near Paris, France)(métro : Mairie-de-Montreuil) celebrates the Summer of Love till October 31th. The complete program is here : http://bib.quoideneuf.free.fr/article-programme-summeroflove.htm Don't miss the Deadicace's concert on September 8th, with Barry Melton in guest star !
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For anybody in Germany, tonight on WDR "Rockpalast" will be sending the 1981 Essen Grugahalle show at 11:45 p.m. Know what I will be doing tonight! Hooray! Setlist below:01 Alabama Getaway (4'10'') 02 Graetest Story Ever Told (4'35'') 03 Sugaree (12'31'') 04 Me And My Uncle (3'50'') 05 Mexicali Blues (3'17'') 06 Shakedown Street (11'49'') 07 Little Red Rooster (8'14'') 08 Althea (9'20'') 09 Looks Like Rain (8'20'') 10 Deal (8'50'') 11 Samson And Delilah (6'42'') 12 Ship Of Fools (8'00'') 13 Estimated Prophet (12'46'') 14 He's Gone (10'20'') 15 The Other One (7'00'') 16 The Beast - Drum solos (incl.Flying Karamazov Brothers) (24'02'') 17 Not Fade Away * (11'30'') 18 Wharf Rat * (9'30'') 19 Around And Around * (4'00'') 20 Good Lovin' (7'25'') 21 One More Saturday Night (4'30'') (* = mit Pete Townshend)
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i remember watching that first time around, are they showing The Who's set also? Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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No The Who, but did see highlights of that a couple of weeks ago. WDR has been sending a half hour "best of 30 years of Rockpalast" for the last few weeks on Saturday night. Saw some real funny stuff like Joe Jackson, REM with a completely schnockered Michael Stype, Ramones, and all sorts of other things.Last night was "jam band" night, and entire shows-started w/the above Dead, then Pfish, then Dave Matthews Band at Lorelei on the Rhine, then Widespread Panick. Went 'til 6:15 this morning-full length concerts all of them. I personally only made it through the Dead show. Was really great fun to watch, and what was cracking me up was that the German audience was obviously NOT familiar with the eternal tuning of Jerry. Were getting pissed and cranky in between numbers-could hear guys in the crowd shouting "SPIEL ENDLICH" (play already)
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I have only heard the Who's set, it was not broadcast on English TV, in march 81. I have seen the Who more than any other band over the years, the last time in May this year in Madrid An amazing Band, but a lot of their reputation was made in my hometown in the 60's Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I remember having a GD party in London to watch that show when it happened all those years ago. I still watch it from time to time. Amazing that German TV still show it. I have been posting on the DVD section of this site trying to get an official release. The Dead show is fun and very good up to Drums. The audience certainly look and act bemused at times and they look so young. Lovely moment during Drums when Bill's microphone keeps falling off its stand. He picks it up and for a moment grins and whirls it round on its cable a la Roger Daltry Whatever Garcia and Townsend got up to during drums heaven knows, but they come back looking and acting very wasted after. Second comic moment is when Garcia launches into Wharf Rat and Weir frantically tries to teach the song to a bemused Townsend in the background. The Who show is pretty good too. Sunshine, Tiger drop me a message in my inbox if you want to know more ;-) Drop a message of
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Goodness I can't believe it's been 17 years. Where does the time go? My good friend Josh and I were hitchhiking through East Germany on our way to the Berlin shows and were finally picked up by a car full of hippies on the way to the shows. They had a candle burning on the dashboard and we crammed i. A guy named Martin from near Frankfurt was driving, his friend Allie was in the car as was a woman named Molly from Minnesota. We proceeded to have a real good time in Berlin and then after saying goodbye to Josh I hopped in with my new friends and we headed to Frankfurt. I'll never forget that night in Festhalle, an old and ornate European theater, or the all night partying that followed. Anyway, I thought I'd write in the hopes of hearing back from any of you who might read this and remember those times. Keep on keepin' on! db
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Cosmicbadger, you are soo right about that Grugahalle show! Agree w/you that Townsend looked like he landed on the wrong planet-very wasted and quite confused! Insecure almost. Cracked me up with Bobby taking care of him, you're right! Jerry was oblivious! Seemed like he was doing his own thing during Not Fade Away too, though he surely knew that one!!!!!!!! Thought "Shakedown Street" was particularly hot. Bob & Jerry going back and forth at the end. And "bemused" is a good word for the German crowd. Was missing the roar of the crowd during "He's Gone" on the "steal your face right off your head" line too. And German t.v. digs out those Rockpalast shows in general from time to time, showing them late at night, or all night. The public t.v. channels air it (is cheap and fills ALOT of airtime, you know) PLUS there were alot of classic shows on Rockpalast over 30 years. WILL indeed "drop you a pm"! :-)
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I watched my DVD of the show the other night and i hadn't noticed before, when Jer is tuning at the beginning of the show you see Townshend talking to him over the amp. I don't know if the copy broadcast on TV was any better than that which i have on DVD but it is not up to release quality. Cosmicbadger i assume you are a brit also, I come from Brighton Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I was also at The Berlin and Frankfurt shows ( and all the others as well). I traveled everywhere by Train, in Berlin i stayed in what used to be migrant workers accommodation in East Berlin, Karl Marx Strasse junction with Ho Chi Minh alle, they know how to name streets there. I will dig out my photos of the tour and scan them and put them up on the site Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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i have just started scanning my photos etc of the Europe tour and have posted the first few of Stockholm Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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This is from another list I know there's a few French residents here. He's playing at a festival in Rochefort (near La Rochelle) tonight. Festival site here http://www.rochefort-en-accords.fr/programme.htm There's also a good article/interview in today's Liberation : http://www.liberation.fr/culture/273908.FR.php I liked this quote (on his days with the Fish) "We were young & carefree with no ambitions, except changing the world. I don't know what happened but we completely screwed up. The world's even worse today than it was before" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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firing up the photon torpedoes...
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Like the new photo!!!!!!!!! Faces are more friendly somehow than graphics, I think.
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which wern't there just now Times are wrong also Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Hey Peoples!! I'm doing a little jaunt around the east at the moment! Bloody nice to be out of Germany for a bit! I'm pretty shattered on one level that my application for a Green Card was turned down (for those I've mentioned this to), but I feel unburdened now the ten year process is over. It's a big world and I'm wasting no time now! Next stop Vilnius, Lithuania, then on to Latvia and Estonia! Spreading the love! Connecting with good folks! Keep smilin'! Jody Are you kind?
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EUROPE PRE 72 and 72.. I was too young, that was the year I first heard the Dead and the next year I purchased a second hand copy of Live Dead, which changed everything EUROPE 74. Grounded for the Ally Pally shows by a conspiracy of school and parents EUROPE 76 Dead and Santana were promoted by Bill Graham to perform a huge outdoor show at Wembley Stadium (capacity 80,000) called Greetings from San Francisco. At last it was our time…tickets in hand….then the show was cancelled due to poor ticket sales. Graham was perhaps rather overambitious to think he’d sell out Wembley EUROPE 78 Dead were due to play some shows on the way back from Egypt. Had tickets. AGAIN CANCELLED…..to add insult to injury Blair Jackson revealed in his book on Garcia that this was because they wanted to get back to the US to finish work on ‘Shakedown Street’. Thanks guys…so never got to see Keith and Donna EUROPE 81. AT LAST. Not one, but two tours, with loads of shows at the wonderful Rainbow in Finsbury Park (perhaps they were saying sorry for 76 and 78). Loved it all. .or as much as I can remember ….not as much really out there jamming as I would have liked and Garcia looked strung out, but some great setlists and much much fun THEN: 9 YEARS OF NOTHING. Rumours of shows at Glastonbury (now what a dream that always was), but nothing. Blair Jackson suggests that Garcia was reluctant to tour because he could not guarantee a ‘supply’. That was actually quite hard to take when I read it, but I never knew it at the time. SUMMER 1990. Saved up enough money to go to the US, see some friends. I arrived the day Brent died. I never knew till then how much it meant to some…I saw people crying in the streets in Marin County. Wrecked my friends van then came close to being murdered by gun toting crazies while hitching in N California. Not a good summer. EUROPE 90. Resigned that it would be cancelled, but amazingly not. I was even able to take my son to a show…it was a very different Dead for sure from the one we grew up with, but who cared….and a Dark Star at the end. Couldn’t/wouldn’t give up my dayjob for the whole tour (lucky Bob), but happy and grateful we were there.
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i took my summer holiday, but luckily i worked for BR so got free train travel:-)) Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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............the thing is following the Dead in those years was something like supporting a useless sports team.....mostly frustration and endless patience based on blind irrational loyalty waiting for the day . People thought we were mad, especially as punk and new wave got going. A thin diet of mostly substandard official recordings... and if were lucky a bootleg LP or tape. Yes there were some legendary mysterious tape collectors in the UK with US contacts, but it was hard to trade with nothing. So when we get told we are not real deadheads it pains us a bit. This year someone told me that you can only call yourself a deadhead if you have seen 30 shows or more. Actually I don't give a feck about the label, but when I hear someone complain what a bummer it was that no one gave them a 'miracle' and therefore they missed the 5th to last 'Black throated wind' I roll my eyes a little...our miracle was for the feckers (meant in the kind non perjorative sense) to turn up!!!!!! Well we have all come our own different routes to this place and and that's what matters.....................
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I sort of had a hiatus when thought they had gone the same way as all the other SF bands, except Santana. Then saw them on Rockpalast and things haven't been the same since. only set two at the time on tv in simulcast and set one was only on the radio Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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i posted my last comment after Cosmicbadger but has come up half hour before we are only only one time Zone apart and i am directly south Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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My greetings to the fellow European Deadheads.To be honest I do not dare to call me a Deadhead, since I am fairly new in listening to the GD. I started last year after purchasing the two box sets with their Studio Material and subsequently got caugth on the live side. I do love those "From the vault" recordings, the new "Cow Palace" release and all the other live CD releases. I especially love the McKernan aera and those endless jams. In the moment I am reading a book about the GD from their former manager, Rock. Furthermore I listen to the Allman Brothers, Gov't Mule, Quicksilver Messenger, Heavy stuff, every now and then a opera. Maybe some German fans can throw me line. For now: all the best Frank
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I am English but living in Spain a couple of site which might be useful to you http://bt.etree.org/ http://www.shnflac.net/index.php http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/eurotraders the first two are Bit Torrent sites which have a lot of Grateful Dead stuff on the third is a yahoo group for European Deadheads Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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welcome Frank....you are lucky ..Bob usually replies to posts before they're delivered, for reasons no-one can understand!!
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cosmicbadger, you forgot the most important part-he usually responds before AND also either two or three times:-)Hallo Frank, Ich bin auch momentan in Deutschland, aber für nicht mehr lange. Wo wohnst Du? Ich bin in SüdHessen.
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is having way too much fun exploiting our little software problems, heh.
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LOL! Excellent, Spanish Bob! Speaking of, Sevilla next Tuesday for me.
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i see Bobby has paid Europe a visit See Weir in Norway posting Bob W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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i see Bobby has paid Europe a visit See Weir in Norway posting Bob W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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...I think he only visited us once ;-) sorry Bob, it must be a fecking nightmare for you!!
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it is nice today that Europe has got some attention :-)) Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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yes indeed......after all the effort coming from here to support the site. I've been checking out this Sirius radio..it broadcasts on internet at 128kbps for $12.95 per month, but I do not know if it accepts non-US Credit cards....its not really worth it for me unless I can record off it. oh well
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Is only in the 'teens here, and am already wearing long sleeves. Am trying to figure out if I need to pack t-shirts again for Sevilla on Tuesday. Would appreciate a general weather-trend report for Andalucia a whole lot; but once will do :-)
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It is cooler today than the last few days, but an awful lot warmer than northern Europe.Seville will be warmer than here also. I am in shorts and t shirt too warm for anything else. It will be probably in the 30's today. 35 36 something like that. You will need your sun cream also :-) Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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will pack for warm weather and system shock. Will pack my suncream and sunglasses too. Last time was in Spain, in June, the ocean took my sunglasses, so will be more careful this time. Was my offering to the mighty sea force, I suppose. Booked my ticket today, which was a whole rigamarole. Last time could fly direct Frankfurt/Sevilla, but this time doesn't work.
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¿Que pasa? Hello folks, here I am in the province of Ávila, deadhead long ago, first concert in Barcelona, october, 19, 1981, only show in Spain. I'm from Madrid, where we are a group of good ol' deadheads friends, and also I have two good friends deadheads in Barcelona. Alive in a farm in a forest of pines in Avila province, Terrapin call. If you travel near here you welcome home music never stopped..