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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    Maybe not 74 China Rider good, but the one from 4/8/89 ain’t no slouch 😀

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    Though I did not relisten to a few shows previously heard, I did rehash several, and some shows multiple times. I started at 2/5 and went in order, finishing with the excellent 5/27 show.

    Overall this is a very good, consistent period, though still not as fully gelled as the awesome summer and fall periods. I think this can be attributed to it being yet another transitional period. With the newer songs from the previous year still percolating , as well as several new tunes getting hashed out, (interesting during any era) combined with tech changes and evolving personal roles, it is an interesting period.
    One that I hadn’t previously really looked at, and now glad I finally did!

    I think generally, the earlier shows of the year are perhaps more consistent than is historically sometimes the case,( but historically similar) in perhaps being a teeny bit subdued, comparatively.
    Their all good, enjoyable shows, didn’t hear a dude in the bunch, but hey, they can’t all be top shelf. So I found a nice progression through the spring that really started to gel and peak during the spring tour proper. I hopefully, Iprovide a nice jumping off point for anyone interested in what ever tour I’m stumbling through.

    3/28/89: vguy suggested this on POTD awhile back and I liked it as much now as I did then. In fact, it’s in my top picks. A fine show but perhaps just a pace or two off the leaders?
    So much of this can be subjective, and though I try to critically listen to all the shows, over time etc, it’s really hard to pick a “best” etc.
    So I try to do the leg work for folks who may have a cursory interest about a tour, but not the time or sanity to waste going through the whole thing lol.
    So hopefully, I provide a nice jumping off point for anyone interested in what ever tour I’m stumbling through.

    I was at the Pittsburgh shows and we felt they continued the promising progression since the big 86 collapse, but though we liked the shows, I recall thinking good but…
    years later, with the DL release, I was grateful to get an attended show, but still had some dissonance, perhaps another right city street, but wrong house?
    This time around I was really scratching my pointy head at first, but long short, feel the first show kind lacks, except for the fun post drums sequence etc.
    The next night however, I felt was a tad above the tour status quo and in the running for a top pick? (But still think perhaps they missed the mark slightly, maybe it was about the tapes? But again, this can all be so subjective).
    More importantly, this show or perhaps end of first night can really be seen as point of demarcation from earlier, to the hieght of this period!

    4/5&6/89: I think 4/5 is most definitely a tour tops and recommended.
    4/6, Conekids first show I believe, is good, but another perhaps just below that top dog line? Another good tour status quo show on the sixth, but not quite the lightning of the fifth?

    4/8/89: though we were at this one also, and really enjoyed it, my memory was of a good but ?…And I had a tape of the first and a couple songs from the second, but hadn’t heard the whole show until a few years ago. It perked my interest but I didn’t get back to it until now, and wow, really glad I did! Have a story for this one but I’ll do that later…yeah it’s in my top picks and maybe not THE show but there’s just something about this show, the vibe? The flow, The set list (mostly), and like the whole tour Brent is strong, and because if it’s uniqueness I think this might be my favorite Blow Away of the tour? Vocal harmonies too which were generally really strong over this period!
    Well, you can check it out if you please.
    I highly recommend a listen and it’s on my top list.

    4/9/89: another great show. Fun stuff and more consistent tour status quo, but as throughout the tour you get the occasional vocal flub or miscue, especially with some of the new material. I found this show another, good, but just a step off the pace…

    4/11, 12, 13/89: more overall more of the same, in a good way, though the second night seemed a bit of a creeper and the first night (a fine previous DV pick) seemed the strongest of the three, and yet another close but….

    4/15/89: same here as several. Good but…not…quite…? I really liked this show and it’s on my second string list.

    4/16&17/89 were good, but perhaps on the tour downside or just past the peak section of this period? Very subtle and the kind of thing I think you can only really get if you do whole tours.

    IRVINE: more of the same but perhaps a bit looser and thus a bit less tight?
    Again, subtle feels and paying attention to misses etc. Perhaps just a touch of California laid back no worries sun fun, as they do sound like their having fun, actually that’s a prevalent vibe through: they were having fun again, getting new momentum etc.
    Perhaps a lab opportunity too as they continue to prominently roll out the new stuff for good or sometimes for ill, and definitely here for the Cali crowd.

    FROST: boy Frost shows sure seem to both inspire but with some of that laissez-faire Cali home vibe. And these are no different. They open with a good Jack and proceed with a fun set list, though Just a Little Light is still a work in progress. Solid second set which I had a tape of, with cool PITB and yet another cool drums into space, that was stepped up all tour and with the midi addition has become more “other” less trad drums, which I’ve always really dug!
    But finally hearing 5/7 I’d have to say I liked that one more, though there were some obvious whoopsies lol. Bird Song was sweet and has been throughout the tour.
    One of the spring highlights for me, but I’m sure not others lol is the midi space fest as they really go to town having a ball with the new toys! Really, the whole sequence from He’s Gone through Black Pete is some of the best stuff I heard so far this year!
    Another good show, on my second string list just because of the slop factor, comparatively speaking…

    Which brings us to show completely off my radar 5/27/89
    This was perhaps the biggest surprise of this trip.
    And unlike many of these larger multi group bene shows that sometimes get played safe etc, this one has great energy and illustrates how things have progressed nicely over the course of the year during this interesting transitional period, just before and leading up to what I and some consider one of the best stretches in their thirty year history: summer 89 through summer 90!

    So, top picks in no real order (whichever I listened to last was best ala Jim ; )
    4/8, 4/5, 4/3, 3/28 and 5/27, with second string 4/9, 4/11, 4/15 and 5/7…
    That may be a lot, but that’s because if how overall comparative this stretch is, thus not only one or two that really jump out.
    I think if you have any infinity for this era you’ll at least enjoy any of these picks, find them a good jumping off point, and hey, sometimes you might even get shown the light ; )

    Well, it was fun, but glad it’s over as to really dig in you have to keep at it and by the end I was doing like a weeks of two a days, and 3 DHBs at the end. Actually, more DHBs as I’m rehashing some of my top picks in playoff round lol. Hey, sorry, getting hockey fever lol.
    ONWARD!

    Prolly cleanse this WE with more 74, then perhaps a week of 69, maybe a bunch of April 69, then a little more May 79 and/or pickup 84 again…

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    If I was to give someone a very brief indication of why I liked The Dead, to someone who had never heard them, I would chose a version of China-Rider. For me, one from between 1972-1974. As the first one I heard was on the old "Europe 72" album, that would be a likely contender.

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    Like that exact moment they drifted from China Cat into I Know You Rider

    Regardless of the year, words cannot describe.

    (did the really make it through HeyNow?)

  • Oroborous
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    Been marching through spring 89 (everything I’ve not heard up to 5/27/89)
    Just a few shows left then I’ll report back…

  • icecrmcnkd
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    For those who torrent, summer 89 and fall 89 are at etree as single torrents.
    Summer 91 was there too.
    Was there last weekend and grabbed them in case they are upgraded from what I already have.

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    Encore got tucked after Set 1 to save space if you were burning to disc, like you would sometimes see in the cassette days. That can fool ya. DaP 49 did it for the 2nd Frost show. The most recent Miller transfer of the Healy/Pierson Ultramatrix has it in correct order. Haven't quite got there yet. Just hit drums and need to break for another task.

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    Says thanks for the well wishes.
    She’s fine, perhaps hurt her pride most, just a little sore is all.
    Think Jim got beat up worse by the Hey Know Police! ; )
    Sounds like the bastards turned it up to 11.

    Box O Rain was the encore fyi…

    I’ll try more later, when I’m done shoveling for the fourth time in 3 days…

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    (Miller SBD) 2nd set starts with Box of Rain?
    Angry Brent gets a 9 min. Blow Away.
    Solid show. I think I remember Bobby giving an interview saying 1989 was some of their best later stuff.
    Cheers

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    I'm getting to this now.. I love one of the comments on setlists dot net

    I remember the rain, and the cops and far too much very strong acid.

    That got my attention.

    I am trying to participate more but even the simplist things wake up the heymeow police.

    One of five attempts are seeming to get these days, with one arm in a sling, it's like they have special a filter to screw with the disabled. This filter censorship thing is BS

    Add two more heynows to the list.. nothing seems to be getting through

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China>Rider 10/29/80
Estimated>Eyes Hampton '79

After that, I don't know where I'll go next. Already spun the '73 selection from the Taper's Section this morning.

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Getting into 84 lately prepping for 35...was at 4/16&17 but not familiar with them?
Don’t know if anybody would be interested in one or both of those this week? Just throwing it out there...

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Checking into the 1st set for a bit. We'll see what comes up next? Maybe some Jerry Band?

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Make the call Oroborous. I am always interested in checking out new shows.

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Always pick right. :-)

How many picky Deadheads does it take to make a pick?

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If I could only own 2 box sets, the Complete Recordings of the Fillmore West would be one of them, the other the Europe 72 box.

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3/2/69 it is......

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does it take to screw in a light bulb?.....
2, one to screw in the bulb, one to stand there and go “nice turns!”....

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By the way, did anyone see that video footage from Englishtown that's on Youtube? I think first time I might have seen video footage from the concert. It was in color, too. Any chance the whole thing was video taped, or at least good portions of it?

The snippets I saw left me wanting more. Have a grateful day everybody! :-)

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No, I have never seen any footage of Englishtown. I will have to check that out. Thanks for the tip on that WTJ.

Haven't heard from Bolo for a while. Hopefully a 75 pick will get your attention and let us know if we will be seeing any other releases besides Dave's and American Beauty Anniversary release.

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I hear Pyongyang is nice this time of year. Or Iceland. Those are my guesses.

Looking to my inner consciousness, I can't decide if Englishtown is over or under-rated. I guess I will punt on this. It's worthy. I personally like the end of the He's Gone jam, but the Eyes of the World was always a highlight. I guess sometimes you have to accept and be happy with the win. Through all the pomp and circumstance, it's a very well played show.. one of the great ones.

For me this show is really special. I grew up as a huge fan of Blues for Allah. Used to have the tapestry in my room for several years. I think this finally meet its demise sometime in 2014.
Anyway, if you haven't listened to this show in a while or ever, you need to check it out. First set is filled with Blues for Allah tracks and a separated Franklins, great Big River and a great version of It must have been the Roses. Then they go into a great Truckin, Eleven, Drums and my personal favorite Milkin the Turkey! Love this Milkin the Turkey.
Finish it up with a NFA, GDTRFB and One More Saturday Night.
Only complaint the show ended.
Sound quality is A+.

Big Fan of Blues for Allah too. I regret I am two days behind.. two back to back great shows.

Great picks.. I might get the chance to play catch up tomorrow.. provided I don't stay up too late watching 06/21/89 Shoreline Amphitheatre on YouTube. Did we pick this one yet? It's kinda good.

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Jim, I don't believe we have listened to the 6/21/89 Shoreline show. Let's do it, haven't met a Shoreline show I didn't like yet.

Be well folks and we need to hear from a few of you out there.

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I stayed home and taped this off the radio, it's a nice show. I wonder if this was broadcast nationally?

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I'm going with the video today. I am laying flooring and will be able have it on a screen fed into some (albeit crappy) external speakers. Not even going to check the setlist, so it'll be more like if it were live. Long time since I listened to my tapes of this one. Thanks Jim.

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...where I had very limited internet access (aside from my phone,) so I missed out on a bunch of picks. Other than missing this board and having access to the Archive, I really didn't mind the disconnect.

Glad to see that 3/18/77 was the pick for my B'Day. That is one of my 77 faves... I too would love to see another 77 box set collecting those Winterland shows.

Today is Shoreline 89? Sounds groovy to me.

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Was on pay for view live, with simulcast on FM. Funny, my cousin and I watched it on a tiny little TV, but through big McIntosh system: C 40, MC2300, and XR 7 speakers. Tape I made was awesome except for the obnoxious station ids in bad places and I needed to pop in another tape so think I have a gap? Used to not dig this one so much, think it’s grown on me more since. But compared to most of the rest of summer tour.....
Not a big Clarence fan either, meaning I dig the dude, but always felt like he was a fish outta water with the Dead. Think there’s some Jerry shows he seems better on? Believe we saw him at the June 90 Warfield shows and he was good? Actually waiting on Vol 13 as I was told he’s pretty good on that one...originally got scared off...
Now that y’all brought 6/21 up, maybe I’ll try and watch that one in the theatre tonight? Think today & tomorrow I’m going to do those 84 shows I proposed earlier this week, kinda digging the 84 lately...

EDIT: belated happy, happy, joy, joy to Otis!

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I knew there was a reason I celebrated that day!!

I thought Clarence did an ok job last night, it was an enjoyable show.. then again, I must have been celebrating someone else's birthday here because I was a little buzzed.

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It was a good one! Spent the night and early morning hours with my corners a considerable bit brighter, listening to nearly all of The Beatles from Help on with the wife and a dear friend, then a solo sunrise walk with my dog, then alone, on the beach while the sun came up and I came down, listening to Dave's 5... pretty sweet stuff.

Speaking of... have we done Dave's 5 yet? I could listen to it again (and again, and again, and again...) If not, how about for tomorrow 7/23? If so, I hear there is an 84 party going on somewhere around these parts.

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Anyone want to give this one a shot? I've heard some good reviews on it. The other one I might propose for today would be 5/25/74. Either of these good?

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The Tempe AZ show. Let's give it a shot. It is November 73, hope the SBD is good.

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Dave's 5 was one of the days I was out. No worries. I thought that it was odd we hadn't hit that one yet.

Sticking with the Fall of 73, I am all for firing up 11/25/73 - There are two copies on the archive, one with "filler" between sets, one without. The second set looks to be on the short side:

Around
Eyes>
WRS
Casey Jones
Sugar Mag >
GDTRFB >
OMSN
We Bid you Goodnight.

Here is the link to the show without the filler (it is the Charlie Miller transfer): https://archive.org/details/gd1973-11-25.sbd.miller.113007.flac16

Now, the other one has the whole show, plus some interesting filler... it is the heart of the second set from 12/4/71 Felt Forum, and includes M&MU>TOO>Mexicali>TOO>Wharf Rat. Seems odd to include such a different era, but it does come between sets, and it could be thought of as intermission music. Hmm... anyway, here is the link to the DeadLists SBD with filler: https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-25.sbd.sacks.2213.sbeok.shnf

I think I might go with the Charlie Miller without filler, then follow it up with the whole 12/4/71 show. I love that Felt Forum run.

Happy listening, DeadLand!

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I love towards the end when Bob says, "Everybody turn around and dig the sunset" (or something along those lines)... For some reason I can visualize that moment...... last show before that end of the year tour that is so famous.... On a side not just got The Ritz shows 1/27 & 1/28/86 in mail. Wasn't suppose to come until saturday. Going to listen to first and then Feyline... Bob t

P.S. just remembered it Bob's dig the sunset might not be on the Miller version, on my cassette tape that I listened to a 1000 times on my sony walkman!!!!

Can only imagine where they might of gone if they hadn’t lost Brentski? How long would they have rode the crest of the wave.... Here’s to Brent, (imagine my toast held high....ok, it’s only emer-gen-cy , but it’s still a toast!)

6/21/89: well, the word that kept coming up was fickle, this show is all over the place. Poor Bob can’t get a break which seems to mess with his mojo until at least Cassidy? Maybe even not fully until second set? Jerry has a couple flubs early on like TOG, but more than makes up for it with hot versions of many songs, and like most of summer 89 he’s smiling and dancing, and he and Brent look like a couple of kids in love, beautiful to watch, especially after the permanent chin glued to the chest years....Clarence does better than I remember, but you can tell he’s mostly winging it, which is hard to do with Dead music. If your a muscian who’s played this music live, and have ever had a neophyte sit in, perhaps you know what I mean?
That is to say, nothing against the big man, as the majority of folks I’ve seen sit in have the same scenario except on easier, we’ll known tunes like say NFA etc... The Dead are just so unique that it’s not easy to wing it, even fir them sometimes! Lol
So though I consider it a good show, compared to many of the great shows of summer 89, I still don’t feel it’s top shelf where mama hides the cookies...which is like saying it’s only a BMW and not a Porsche!
Speaking of 89, really looking forward to the SS Friday with 9/29/89! Never heard this one and of course we get the big reveal, and it will be interesting to see how this falls within the spectrum of Summer to Fall 89?
Did superficial 4/16/84 yesterday. About how I (didn’t) remember it, meaning similar to above, good show, but not sure I’d say top tour echelon? Might try today’s 73 pick and 4/17/84 as I need to get caught up at work so need the motivation! Well, nothing to it but to do it!....Rock on mi amigos!

EDIT: somewhere someone started a shoe song list....how bout Sailin’ Shoes, by......wait for it.....Little Feet (cue rom shot)

Hi-Ya

Happy Belated Birthday Otis, sounds like you did it up right.
Welcome Back.

Got the Jerry Acoustic CDs Volume 14 and Bonus and am digging them.
The sound quality is excellent and the performances are real enjoyable.

Due to my obsessive Grateful Dead collecting and the investment that requires, I’ve pretty much avoided most of the solo stuff as my time and means are limited.

That being said, this one peaked my interest due to the GD material covered and the bonus CD.
I’m a sucker for limited edition bonus CDs.
So I bit and now I might’ve got bit back.

While listening I decided to look into what else was out there in regards to Garcia & Kahn acoustic performances. And yeah, that’s a whole other wormhole that appears pretty deep.

Kinda blown away with some of my (new to me, old to some) discoveries, for instance if you look at the number of performances Jerry played in ’82, when you combine his Grateful Dead touring with his solo projects.. God Damn I declare! I’m amazed with his output. Especially when you consider ’82, as far as I understand it, Jer was beginning to really struggle with addiction issues. How he managed to play / work this much is truly remarkable and a credit to his strength and determination to create music. Impressive to say the least.

That brings me to my tie in, looking at the Jerry solo stuff, I stumbled on the 11/28/73 Jerry Garcia, Mickey, Phil & Ned Lagin stuff that’s floating around out there. Some truly trippy excursions into weirdness. Digging it.

And lo, when I look at the pick today, it’s 11/25/73.

Cool…

Hey Oroborous, you mentioned tomorrow night we get the big reveal during the SS. What are you referring to?

Good to see you GOGD. Thought maybe you were trapped out in Portland.

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Absolute insanity going on in this Country and my hometown.

Meanwhile I was deep in the throes of the Fillmore West 1969 Box set after the 3/2/69 pick and needed to listen to all of it. Desert Island Dead during my Desert Island Pandemic Reality.

This Darkness has got to give.

But it's nice to be missed :)

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Deadvikes: reveal meaning the first Death Don’t...I’m really stoked for this show!

GOGD: yeah was worried you got caught up in all that madness in P town etc, I mean if the Government is just plucking citizens off the street in unmarked vans etc, well who’s more subversive than us rabble rousing hippies lol.....(think loud angry cop voice “sir, we need you to step away from that tape deck and put your hands in the air, and drop that weapon immediately”......aaaaaa, ya mean this joint?? Lol.

Now if we could only find Four Winds Blow........and David Duryea (sp?)
And dammit Dave, what about Gainesville!

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VGUY: A million times prior to now, but not since this stuff started happening. Covid concerns.

OB - Hahaha that's a roger. LOL. Step away from the tape deck sir.. and what's that you're holding? At least weed is legal here now. Shit is crazy.

Definitely a Shakedown Street to avoid.

And a Shakedown Stream to look forward too.

I edited out the rest of this to keep it on point of the music and good times.

Happy to talk state of the nation elsewhere :)

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

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Looking forward to that Oroborous.

I will stay away from the hate. I don't come to this place for that crap.

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Listened to Garcia 14 first.... Feyline is good from start to finish.... No giant jam but you get a set ending Playing, then an around and around followed by Eyes into Weather Report, (50 plus minutes for 4 songs) so you sort of get the jammed out feeling.... have a good night everyone.... bob t

There's a few of us here that have tapped into quite the collection of Jerry stuff, talking about the unreleased stuff.

Bet you know who we are and where to find us, but there is a good bit of acoustic Jerry and John stuff floating around.

In fact.. I need to double check my facts, but I think my first Jerry Show was Jerry and John at the Lisner Auditorium in DC circa 82 or 83??? I remember it being a short show but quite good.

Anyway.. not an empty offer, Jerry stuff does exist.

Not sure what's in the pipeline for later this week, but there is interest for more 84 and 85, I've been going there in my free time lately....

Thanks Jim!

Noted for sure.

Have you checked out the 11/28/73 Jerry Mickey & Ned?

Wild stuff. I was digging the supposed Tarot outtakes filler.

This 11/25/73 PITB ain’t bad either.

I need to explore some more. There’s so
much good stuff!

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Wow- I'm just listening to this for the first time now. I love this stuff! - thanks GOGD for the tip! Great spacey relaxing music. Perfect for reading or a stressful day at work. I listen to compilations of Spring 90 drums/space when I need relaxing background music. Now I can also listen to this 11/28/73 stuff!

I'm looking forward to the new Garcia/Kahn. I saw 3 shows from one of their 84 tours but haven't listened to hardly any Garcia/Kahn since. I certainly loved the shows I saw, though.

p.s., edit, I assume 11/28/73 is from THE one and only Palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco?! Such a beautiful special place by the ocean. I visited it as a tourist!!

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Far out stuff huh Gollum?

Stoked you’re diggin’ it. I enjoyed stumbling on that this am. I was goin’ places. Endless treasures!

Just like those ‘86 Jerry shows.
35 years of collecting and still finding new stuff everyday.

Watching the 6/21/89 estimated with Clarence now. Yet Another treasure, more familiar with this one, but it’s been so long it’s kinda new again.

Good stuff, Fun sharing :)

Edit - yep, the palace of fine arts, although there’s a bunch of debate about the dates of all the material. Some of it from that date pretty certain, maybe not all. Supposedly Phil mixed it in quadrophonic stereo... wooo