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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Nice work Jim.

    As we all know, posting is requiring a lot of patience and it does not look like this will change any time soon.

    Your post has inspired me to pull up some early 80s for today. Now, what shall it be?

    Edit. Decided to go with 11/28/80, from the 30 Trips Box. Stay well out there. It is Masters week!

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    ...first TRAVELIN' road show ALSO; dad loaned us his lil' VW dasher diesel station wagon (filled-up one tank of diesel, less than ten bucks and used about 3/4 of a tank, we need toll money for the BAY bridge, yup time to pass the hat) we piled-in...ALL of us PSEUDO hippies...and it poured rain for all 6 hours, and I remember driving, and it's the middle of the afternoon and it was like driving at dusk the entire route. walked out at the end and we were all very SATISFIED.

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    I took that as far as I could adding a sentence at a time until Sargeant Hey Now found me. I'm pretty sure if I would have spelled Ms Swifts name correctly I would have gotten gong'd.

    At least I got in that much but it took me a couple days and more time than I am willing to admit I spent on this.

    These guys really have become the anti-fun police. If justice prevailed it would be marked on their headstones for eternity.

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    The first show I travelled to, I took the rents car but I am quite sure they had no idea we were going to a dead show.

    We all tripped, it was my second or third show, still cannot recall if I was at the Cap Centre show in the fall of 82. I think yes, but not entirely sure. My ex tossed all my stubs.

    Anyway, I did not have many tapes by then and I did not know that many songs yet so my memories are more of the scene, how much fun we had and afterwards finding a place to sleep without getting in any trouble. I remember how hard they jammed to be sure. We had almost no money, gas was about a dollar a gallon, so if you pack some food and don't have to spring for a hotel it's very doable. In 83 you could get tickets without too much trouble for like $12 or something. You see Tailor Swift was not even born yet and the last, next to the last, seriously this is the last Eagles tour was not an issue yet so 100 dollar tickets were farcical.

    After the show we drove to Va Beach to try and sleep on the sand afterwards. That was a no go.. we were destined to be up all night. It started to drizzle, it was cold and cops were buzzing so we abandoned that idea and ended up quasi sleeping in the car in the parking lot of a motor in.

    So was my first travelling dead show. We had the time of our lives and thankfully, did not get in trouble and the parents car was returned the next day unharmed. Good thing they did not check the mileage.

    Oh, the show was really freaking good as far as I can remember. Help/Slip!/Franks and then some.

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    ...wasn't it named hampton roads coliseum? can still remember the 6 hour jaunt with a forever slow crawl thru delaware [alabama toot-away anyone?] yup, we got back to the hotel and all one of our friends could talk about was "how the dead were now singing nursery-rhymes"...ashes ashes all fall down! lol; 4/9/83 FUN stuff!

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    I caught that one. I'd tell the tale but the HeyChow police are on to me.

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    Nice work OB. How did you get that post past the Hey Now police?

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    The Aoxomoxoa outtakes from around this time are also worth checking out. St Stephen with cello, The Eleven with bagpipes and Barbed Wire Whipping Party with nitrous oxide, supposedly.

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    That is a fine show TN.
    Think I had it in my top five when I did that tour!

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    The rainbow ballon band lol

    This round I hit every available show that I hadn’t heard before, plus rehashing a few official release ones.

    For various reasons, I wasn’t able to get as deep as i usually do, and sometimes the lackluster recordings made it harder to get to the goodness, but usually I at least caught the standout moments, both good and not so good.
    The overall consistency and repetitiveness actually makes it very hard to decipher subtle differences, so combined with my lighter digestion, I wouldn’t say this is a comprehensive consideration. More a go fast and hard and see what stuck approach.

    Overall I found almost every show at least good, and don’t recall clunkers.

    I had heard January seventeen via Doc on POTD, and the Aoxomoxoa 50th bonus stuff, but rehashed all that in order to get a good reference starting point.
    February 2, 4, 5 and 6 were next, getting seemingly better each night, while noting the fierce Stephen 11 jam on the 5.
    The very fine shows on the 7 we’d enjoyed on POTD via Doc, so skipped
    Same with the Fillmore shows on the 11.

    Did hit another hot one on the 12th, though not sure which show, but man it has another scorching Stephen 11 jam!

    Followed with the good first night at The Electric factory, but perhaps a step behind the awesome next night previously dug via Doc on POTD.

    I skipped the RJ level goodness of the 2 Dream bowl shows, but I did rehash the whole FW run as I’ve never done so completely and in order before. Sigh, words can not convey…

    Skipped the previous POTD Doc choice on March 15 (another top shelf) so next up was an equally wonderful outing on the 22 at the Rose Palace. The tape takes awhile to settle but don’t let that stop ya!
    The 28 is another good but perhaps not great outing from Modesto.

    I skipped Docs previous choice on the 3/26 and 4/11, along with the Avalon run.
    Again, goal was to hit unheard shows this time around…

    February things really start getting unbelievable. Some of the newer songs that were ruff at best earlier, are starting to gel and the “Live Dead” stuff is starting to get more improvisational as their slowly shifting from the “keep it tight and right” for the recordings phase. The consistency is still very good but their starting to morph and explore more, and it’s easy to hear differences in this material, perhaps easier than back in February.

    April 12 - 17 are absolute gold! Some of the recorders aren’t great but you must hear your way through that to fully appreciate some extremely fine Dead! The 15 especially got my attention! And I rehashed the 17 since previously my copy was not complete and to compare with the 15. I’d call the 17 the 15 if it was given the treatment. And hey, it’s just a little rain folks lol.

    Skipped previous Doc 18, which I think is good, but just a tad behind the previous? Did hit the 20 with similar feelings.
    Though I’ve heard the Ark shows, don’t think ever did them completely in order etc, so rehashed and dug the hell outta those. I find the middle show to be RJ while the others are good, but perhaps missed it by that much?
    Same with the 25. I did the complete shows from the next 2 nights as I’d only heard the DP before. Really strong like all of April but maybe a tad off the peak of a week or two previous?

    May is still good, but felt like they peaked and were moving on again with more new material and increasingly longer shows (earlier there were many one set shows, though some of that might be incomplete recordings too)
    Checked out the Sierra college on the 3, kinda weird?, and perhaps even weirder vibe at the Polo fields on the 7. Another beauty at the Rose Palace again on the 10 with a very awesome Dark Star!
    Perhaps the best of May I heard this round was the next night at the Aztec Bowl, followed by perhaps the only dog in the bunch, Moraga on the 16, which I rehashed since Doc mentioned it again lol. More weirdness lol
    Skipped the awesome RT FLA shows, but continued with May 29, 30, and 31st.
    All were good, but the recording was ruff on the 29, and the 31st was perhaps a step above due to the a shenanigans and what not? Yet More weirdness lol
    Finished off with the weird June first show? Was that a show?
    Previously hit the fifth so next up will be the June FW run, but I’m way to burnt on this music for now. I’ll check out more, including the 27 and 28 that BTK has been suggesting…but first, full random cleansing Oxford 88, 5/14/74, 49, and anything else lol. Then, probably starting next week, going to do May through July of 79.
    Onward!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

VGUY are we confusing ya?

Pick was 11/25

If you want some extra cosmic weirdness check out Jerry, Mickey, Ned and Phil on 11/28

Lil side trip ;)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/23/2020 - 21:26

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....beware of my upcoming avatar.
73 China Riders are in a league of their own.
Lil' bit confused, but turning into the wake. Full speed ahead!!

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Submitted by Gollum on Thu, 07/23/2020 - 22:26

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..... it just keeps getting weirder.....I'm finding this much more listenable than the Seastones album, which I haven't listened to all that much. Yes, there's always so much to discover with the Dead!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/23/2020 - 22:30

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....the Feyline Eyes soars. I do know that. Good thing it wasn't a snake.
Showing people your ass and farting in their general direction is not against the law in the US. Baby steps people.

Been meaning to comment on this all day. Yes, we lost Brent way too early. It was a great run in Dead history giving us so much great music 79-90. RIP Brent!
I know I kind of checked out when he died, which was a huge mistake, because I think they really had some great nights in 91. I have listened to a few 92 shows and there are moments but it just was not the same for me. Maybe you know what I mean. When I finally got out of College and had a few dollars in my pocket I was ready to go back. But it was too late. A sad ending, but what a run!
For me, this band has been with me through their music for 35 plus years. Great times, horrible times, but always there. Their music has helped beyond anything I can really verbalize. My family are not dead heads but they can always sing along to this great music in the car or at home. The Dead to me were always about Peace, Love and Happiness. I wish we could get back to that.

By the way I enjoyed 11/25/73. Another great November 73 show. Should be a great candidate for an official release.

Be well folks and stop climbing the barb wired fence idiot.

Yeah Feyline is pretty sweet. drum roll please... and the highlight for me = PITB.

Yeah yeah big surprise, I know.

Love those ‘72-‘73 PITBs each one & every time. I mean pretty much all PITBs but those especially and this one is darn good. And the AWBYGN

Enjoyed 6/21/89.. kinda paid attention, they kinda rocked it, we were on the same page. Jer was real animated and fun to watch. Him and Brent’s interactions are great to watch but bittersweet. RIP Brent. Video is out of sync with audio from about end of Scarlet through HIAB but It’s free and worth checkin out. Early days of Pay-Per-View, funny I had my Mom record that for me BITD.

Tarot outtakes to wind down the evening.

Agree that the Jerry, Mickey & Ned is way more palatable & my speed than Seastones which is just kinda odd sonic weirdness to me, can’t quite get that & have tried, dig the JMN though.

Be well intrepid travelers.

I Bid You Good Night

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 04:22

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Right on, that PITB was great. I enjoyed it, too. Donna's bellow was archetypical. An additional highlight for me was the China>Rider.

I heard it was a short show, though. Seemed hearty enough to me.

I heard that Phil literally knocked people off their feet in '84 with his new bass. I want to get to more July. Is there a board for 10-14-84? I didn't see one.

Happy Friday folks. :-)

P.S. What's on tap for today? There was a suggestion out there for 10-6 or 10-19-81 from Unkle Sam, but I'm open to anything.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 06:28

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Yesterday's pick was a pleasant changeup. Getting some much needed rain here in the mid atlantic.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 07:04

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As far as I know there's no SBD in circulation for 10/14/84 but the Rick Pauline Audience recording is amazing, one of the better sounding audience recordings I've heard. Definitely worth checking out -
https://archive.org/details/gd1984-10-14.senn421.pauline.miller.91385.s…

DL posted the pre-drums segment of Set 2 SBD in Taper's Section at some point, so some SBD exists, but nothing in circulation as of 7/24/20 ;)

Both those '81 shows are promising, or was there talk of 1984 adventure?!?!

I've always loved 7/15/84, I mean that whole run at the Greek, but 7/15's quirkiness reeled me in some 30 plus years ago and remains a favorite.

Fun fun fun!

Yo VGUY!
Yes indeed, I've been eyeballing that one for a minute now, and it's ready to rip over here. I pitched it on 7/13/20 but no bites... so I'm In!

Possibly some '84 too, I listened to some of 10/14 and 20 minute Eyes is def sounding good.

Alright, hot damn.

Shall we say the pick of the day is 9/20/70..

Happy Friday!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 10:18

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Yeah, can't wait to relisten to this.

One of my biggest GD Vault dreams is that a SBD of 9/17/70 exists.
That Truckin' is amazing! (and all the American Beauty material).
Gotta keep those dreams alive..
Dave Lemieux any comments in regards to this possibility?

Looking forward to this one today :)

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 10:38

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10 out of 10, hopefully it will come out for the American Beauty 50th. There are 12 songs from AB and WMD. Guest appearances by David Grisman and and David Nelson. I wonder who is playing piano on Broke down Palace, could it be Garcia.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 17:05

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Get outta here. Two minutes after I step away, someone tosses out this show and I am just getting home now to check out shakedown stream, how can I possibly fit this in tonight? I will have to get back to this. Great show, it's not if it get released but when this show gets released.

"It's got a Cumberland."

.....and as for the Shakedown Stream tonight, "It's got a Death Don't Have No Mercy." (First one in 19 years! ..and a classic at that)

A good friend reminded me today, it's National Tequila Day.. so run, don't walk.. and get your favorite Extra Anejo (yes.. Extra Anejo is mandatory) and get back in time to see David Crosby introduce 09/29/89 at the Shoreline for tonight's Shakedown Stream on Youtube.

Surely this counts as show of the day part II.. with commentary.

They played the Shoreline Death Don't on The Grateful Dead Hour that Friday night, I know because I taped it and it was spectacular.. the next week I saw it at the Hampster Coliseum. Probably my two favorite shows that I was fortunate enough to attend. I am pretty sure Oroborous was there too.

By Hampton, he was not playing Wolf, he was playing a Black Strat with a white pickguard (I think). I was there alone, didn't really know anyone there.. when the first chords of Dark Star played.. we all looked around in modest disbelief, there was this total hottie to my right.. she looked at me, gave me a hug and a sweet kiss on the cheeck as tears rolled down her face.

....and stop calling me Shirley.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 22:45

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As per usual the people up front are getting horribly smashed. They look bug eyed.

Pretty sweet Jim!

Late again, so much going on in my neck of the woods. But you are right, when I saw the Wolf, I thought wow, when was the last time Jerry cracked that out. Jerry kept looking better and better in 89. I remember thinking back in those days that the run would keep going.

Holy crap, can we get this show out? The Wolf sounds unreal and we get a Wang Dang Doodle!

Video on this one is so raw, sound is great.
Stay well folks. Flowing like mud here in MN.

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 08:36

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Only unreleased Dark Star left from 74, with a little slipknot jam.... Not saying as a pick for today, just pointing it out..... think I am going to listen to Feyline again, really enjoy it.......... bob t

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 11:44

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Going to check to see if either 10-6 or 10-19-81 has a Shakedown. Then might dip into one or the other to see if one grabs me...

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Submitted by maxrod101 on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 13:35

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RIP Peter Green..passed today,may the four winds blow you safely home..Founding member of Fleetwood Mac and extroadinary guitar player..He admired Jerry and was big fan..One of my first dead shows was 2/11/70 Fillmore East.late show with Duane,Gregg and Peter Green joining for Dark Star and beyond.(Allmans also on the bill)..it was amazing and all should take a listen if you havnt in a while.. https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/grateful-dead-allman-peter-green-1970/

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 21:28

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Yes, why not 2/11/70 ?! this could be a very nice pick....

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 04:48

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Would be a good Dave's Pick, too.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 07:41

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I've only listened to the 2/11/70 Dark Star before, so now is a good time to hear the whole show. Adding to the Sunday queue.

I'm enjoying the new Garcia/Kahn. Kahn is more involved than I remember which is a good thing. I can't help but wonder what it would have been like if Garcia chose a more assertive bass player, ala Hot Tuna, ,etc. But of course Jack was already taken. Phil? Maybe Phil wasn't interested and besides if Phil was on the ticket, Deadheads would have mobbed the nice venues they were playing. Rob Wasserman? I guess it came down to the fact that John was a friend and Jerry just liked playing with his friends. There's that interview where Jerry says the Grateful Dead started out as just a collection of friends, who could play "some". Anyway it is nice to hear Kahn on this release and maybe I'll get a better sense of his playing now. The sound quality is pretty good.

February 1970 Fillmore East that’s some hallowed ground.

Maxrod101 - Legendary show, you got any stories from that night?

Ah, 2/11 the most under represented of the famous 3 night February 1970 run.

This is one of those shows where it would be really exciting to know what indeed exists in the Vault.

If the assumption is that we’ve been listening to the famous Fillmore East crew’s recordings all these years passed down from a copy of Bob Menke’s reel master copy (questionable, it might already be a mix of both Vault & FE crew). Monumental efforts have already been taken to restore and compile what we’ve got. That being said there’s more in the Vault, like the Black Peter played on 30 Days of the Dead in 2012.
1. Do the Fillmore East Crew SBDs and the Vault Masters combine to patch that nasty cut in Dark Star? We may never know...
2. What else was played that night? We may never know...
3. What else exists? We may never know...

You get the point. It's been 50 years and here we are with a very nice sounding partial SBD of a fiery February night at the Fillmore.
But yeah, I'd love to know what else there is.
Gans, Lemieux, Lambert, Charlie, Jesse, Corry, anybody?

Coincidently (strange?) I watched a Peter Green Documentary A Man of The World recently on Amazon prime, which is ok, but Mick Fleetwood and Peter Green both discuss playing with the Dead this night, and that for me was worth it. The picture by Amalie Rothschild is one of the all time classic Fillmore East pics, so cool she got that photo, sounds like she didn’t realize how much of legendary show it was to Dead fans until years later.

Alright, this is a mighty task friends, are you up to it? Can you pass the test?

Speaking of, 9/20/70 is an all time great. That NFA > Caution.. wo-ho! Too bad there’s tape shedding, but what survives through the murk is a big WOW!

Inspired I went through those tapes again, man the Dark Star > St. Stephen > NFA **** > Lovelight from 9/19 is so amazing an all time fave. The Darkness Jam > China Cat Jam in NFA just gets you! It's smoking stuff or was I smoking stuff.. hmmm.

In regards to the September 70 shows, I don’t think the Master SBD reels are in the Vault. Dick woulda circulated this stuff, I just gotta believe he would've had to. Based on what circulates, I think this is all that exists. Again I believe from the Fillmore East taping crew and it’s questionable that the FE Crew Master reels even exist anymore. So I don’t see these getting released outside of what we have already. Would love to hear different in this life time, but…

Alright travelers, shall we go to February long ago and catch an epic show?

EDIT: RIP Peter Green

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 10:25

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12/1/73 Boston Music Hall!!! We have the night before and the night after from Dick's Picks..... Could be the second release of a year with the unreleased songs from 11/30 and 12/2/73 as bonus CD....... hmmmmm.... I think I'm going to listen to July 26, 1972 Paramount Theatre.... 2 verse Dark Star into Comes a Time...... "Don't believe everything you read in Time Magazine..." Phil Lesh after Cold Rain and Snow......... Be good everyone Bob t

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 17:15

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I was thinking the same thing more or less. They were riding so high when he checked out. His last words sang in front of a live audience, "I gotta go, but my friend can stick around"

Makes me wonder what would have been...

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 18:27

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I did hit that show (as well as 5/25/74) yesterday. The show was alright, but the mix was really not the best. It did have my requisite Shakedown, and oh yes, a Cumberland Blues. Might check out 10-19-81 next to compare...

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 19:04

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RIP Brent!

Carrier pigeons, you got that right. Good to see you Conekid!

My guess is we wouldn't have Dave's 35 by the weekend. Hope I am wrong.

Anybody think we will still see another box set this year?

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Be well folks.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 20:45

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I've been meaning to mention the Carrier Dome 84 for some time. ..before we get off the 80's.

Any interest?

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 08:27

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My third and fourth Grateful Dead concerts. One of the first questions I asked David Lemieux at the Grateful Dead conference at San Jose State in November 2014, the only time I met him in person was “do they have the complete September 19, 1970 Fillmore East tapes in the vault?” Answer , “no”.
Years ago I wrote a description of 9/19/70 on this site. It’s still there. I seem to remember having also written a description for 9/17/70 but similar to a few other concert posts I wrote that mysteriously disappeared a few years ago and the more recent deleted list of shows attended I will refer to a commonly used phrase in Mexico, “quien sabe”.
I have a backup for my list of Grateful Dead I attended for twenty five years.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 09:33

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Just wondering which song MD Jim prefers, Althea or Row Jimmy. As for me, I'm partial to Tennesee Jeff, erm Jed. Settle back, easy Jim. Thanks for the pick! :-)

RE: Strider hot damn!
Well you solved one of my hypotheses (hī-pŏth′ĭ-sēz′)..

Did you ask him about 9/17/70 as well?
EDIT: My spanish is rusty, but is the "Quien Sabe" in reference to existence of tapes or Piano player? ;)
I assume that doesn't exist in the Vault either...

These are some of my favorite shows, and since they were your 3rd & 4th that’s a good time to experience some epicness, wow just wow.

A really rough Audience recording of the full acoustic set from 9/19/70 started to circulate again around 7/12 this month. So it appears we've got the full show now, all be it pretty rough Audience recordings of most, but questionably the best part of the SBDs was saved for us to enjoy.

I went on a Darkness darkness journey after listening to this this weekend, fascinated with that jam.
Good Ole Jer, picking out the good stuff and making it even better.

That Acoustic set from 9/17 is one for the ages for sure. Do you recall who was playing the Piano then?

Fascinating stuff..

Happy Monday All!

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 10:04

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Our group was there. My list gave Jack Straw a +2, Shakedown +2, Samson +1, Blk Pete +1.

Thing I remember most, for those who have never been, the carrier dome I was told was a soft roof and the place was pressurized by air. The result was when you left this HUGE gust of wind pushed you out. Needless to say Deadheads being Deadheads kept going back in to feel the push. ( I personally couldn't see doing it,,,,,,,, more than 5 times :-) )

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 15:30

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Between 10-6 and 10-19, 1981 I would give the nod to (drumroll please), 10-19. Check out that set II. Wow! I might venture it's DaP-worthy. Going to have to try and hit 10-20-84 tonight, but Barcelona was well played and the matrix was not too bad for mix (better than 10-6, where I tuned into the Miller-ized board tape)

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 07:32

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:-)