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  • #6671
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    31, bring it!
    Glad we got that Chocolate spot all warmed up for ya!

  • #6672
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    Thanks, my man! I think it sounds pretty sweet - especially that Shrine 67 LP release, played LOUD!

    Your Hershey story is great! Really wish I would have been around during those times! I would have partied right down in the mud with you!

    Not the same, but my first Phish show was at Hershey in 96. We too found a spot directly in front of the soundboard, figuring that it had to sound good there. To this day, my friends and I refer to that area at shows as "The Chocolate Spot."

    DeadVikes, everything's a-ok on this end. Thanks for the thoughts!

    So, are we on for Dave's 31 today?

    Peace

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    Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
    I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

    Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
    Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

    Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?

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    ....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
    Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.

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    You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)

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    So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
    Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
    So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
    So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
    Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
    The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
    Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
    As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
    So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
    Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
    That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
    So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

    EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!

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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

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    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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    Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

    Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

    I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

    Tell us more.

    And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

    I agree, it always sounds great to me.

    Enjoy party people!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

VGUY are we confusing ya?

Pick was 11/25

If you want some extra cosmic weirdness check out Jerry, Mickey, Ned and Phil on 11/28

Lil side trip ;)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/23/2020 - 21:26

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....beware of my upcoming avatar.
73 China Riders are in a league of their own.
Lil' bit confused, but turning into the wake. Full speed ahead!!

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Submitted by Gollum on Thu, 07/23/2020 - 22:26

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..... it just keeps getting weirder.....I'm finding this much more listenable than the Seastones album, which I haven't listened to all that much. Yes, there's always so much to discover with the Dead!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/23/2020 - 22:30

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....the Feyline Eyes soars. I do know that. Good thing it wasn't a snake.
Showing people your ass and farting in their general direction is not against the law in the US. Baby steps people.

Been meaning to comment on this all day. Yes, we lost Brent way too early. It was a great run in Dead history giving us so much great music 79-90. RIP Brent!
I know I kind of checked out when he died, which was a huge mistake, because I think they really had some great nights in 91. I have listened to a few 92 shows and there are moments but it just was not the same for me. Maybe you know what I mean. When I finally got out of College and had a few dollars in my pocket I was ready to go back. But it was too late. A sad ending, but what a run!
For me, this band has been with me through their music for 35 plus years. Great times, horrible times, but always there. Their music has helped beyond anything I can really verbalize. My family are not dead heads but they can always sing along to this great music in the car or at home. The Dead to me were always about Peace, Love and Happiness. I wish we could get back to that.

By the way I enjoyed 11/25/73. Another great November 73 show. Should be a great candidate for an official release.

Be well folks and stop climbing the barb wired fence idiot.

Yeah Feyline is pretty sweet. drum roll please... and the highlight for me = PITB.

Yeah yeah big surprise, I know.

Love those ‘72-‘73 PITBs each one & every time. I mean pretty much all PITBs but those especially and this one is darn good. And the AWBYGN

Enjoyed 6/21/89.. kinda paid attention, they kinda rocked it, we were on the same page. Jer was real animated and fun to watch. Him and Brent’s interactions are great to watch but bittersweet. RIP Brent. Video is out of sync with audio from about end of Scarlet through HIAB but It’s free and worth checkin out. Early days of Pay-Per-View, funny I had my Mom record that for me BITD.

Tarot outtakes to wind down the evening.

Agree that the Jerry, Mickey & Ned is way more palatable & my speed than Seastones which is just kinda odd sonic weirdness to me, can’t quite get that & have tried, dig the JMN though.

Be well intrepid travelers.

I Bid You Good Night

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 04:22

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Right on, that PITB was great. I enjoyed it, too. Donna's bellow was archetypical. An additional highlight for me was the China>Rider.

I heard it was a short show, though. Seemed hearty enough to me.

I heard that Phil literally knocked people off their feet in '84 with his new bass. I want to get to more July. Is there a board for 10-14-84? I didn't see one.

Happy Friday folks. :-)

P.S. What's on tap for today? There was a suggestion out there for 10-6 or 10-19-81 from Unkle Sam, but I'm open to anything.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 06:28

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Yesterday's pick was a pleasant changeup. Getting some much needed rain here in the mid atlantic.

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As far as I know there's no SBD in circulation for 10/14/84 but the Rick Pauline Audience recording is amazing, one of the better sounding audience recordings I've heard. Definitely worth checking out -
https://archive.org/details/gd1984-10-14.senn421.pauline.miller.91385.s…

DL posted the pre-drums segment of Set 2 SBD in Taper's Section at some point, so some SBD exists, but nothing in circulation as of 7/24/20 ;)

Both those '81 shows are promising, or was there talk of 1984 adventure?!?!

I've always loved 7/15/84, I mean that whole run at the Greek, but 7/15's quirkiness reeled me in some 30 plus years ago and remains a favorite.

Fun fun fun!

Yo VGUY!
Yes indeed, I've been eyeballing that one for a minute now, and it's ready to rip over here. I pitched it on 7/13/20 but no bites... so I'm In!

Possibly some '84 too, I listened to some of 10/14 and 20 minute Eyes is def sounding good.

Alright, hot damn.

Shall we say the pick of the day is 9/20/70..

Happy Friday!

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Yeah, can't wait to relisten to this.

One of my biggest GD Vault dreams is that a SBD of 9/17/70 exists.
That Truckin' is amazing! (and all the American Beauty material).
Gotta keep those dreams alive..
Dave Lemieux any comments in regards to this possibility?

Looking forward to this one today :)

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 10:38

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10 out of 10, hopefully it will come out for the American Beauty 50th. There are 12 songs from AB and WMD. Guest appearances by David Grisman and and David Nelson. I wonder who is playing piano on Broke down Palace, could it be Garcia.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/24/2020 - 17:05

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Get outta here. Two minutes after I step away, someone tosses out this show and I am just getting home now to check out shakedown stream, how can I possibly fit this in tonight? I will have to get back to this. Great show, it's not if it get released but when this show gets released.

"It's got a Cumberland."

.....and as for the Shakedown Stream tonight, "It's got a Death Don't Have No Mercy." (First one in 19 years! ..and a classic at that)

A good friend reminded me today, it's National Tequila Day.. so run, don't walk.. and get your favorite Extra Anejo (yes.. Extra Anejo is mandatory) and get back in time to see David Crosby introduce 09/29/89 at the Shoreline for tonight's Shakedown Stream on Youtube.

Surely this counts as show of the day part II.. with commentary.

They played the Shoreline Death Don't on The Grateful Dead Hour that Friday night, I know because I taped it and it was spectacular.. the next week I saw it at the Hampster Coliseum. Probably my two favorite shows that I was fortunate enough to attend. I am pretty sure Oroborous was there too.

By Hampton, he was not playing Wolf, he was playing a Black Strat with a white pickguard (I think). I was there alone, didn't really know anyone there.. when the first chords of Dark Star played.. we all looked around in modest disbelief, there was this total hottie to my right.. she looked at me, gave me a hug and a sweet kiss on the cheeck as tears rolled down her face.

....and stop calling me Shirley.

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As per usual the people up front are getting horribly smashed. They look bug eyed.

Pretty sweet Jim!

Late again, so much going on in my neck of the woods. But you are right, when I saw the Wolf, I thought wow, when was the last time Jerry cracked that out. Jerry kept looking better and better in 89. I remember thinking back in those days that the run would keep going.

Holy crap, can we get this show out? The Wolf sounds unreal and we get a Wang Dang Doodle!

Video on this one is so raw, sound is great.
Stay well folks. Flowing like mud here in MN.

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 08:36

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Only unreleased Dark Star left from 74, with a little slipknot jam.... Not saying as a pick for today, just pointing it out..... think I am going to listen to Feyline again, really enjoy it.......... bob t

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Going to check to see if either 10-6 or 10-19-81 has a Shakedown. Then might dip into one or the other to see if one grabs me...

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Submitted by maxrod101 on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 13:35

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RIP Peter Green..passed today,may the four winds blow you safely home..Founding member of Fleetwood Mac and extroadinary guitar player..He admired Jerry and was big fan..One of my first dead shows was 2/11/70 Fillmore East.late show with Duane,Gregg and Peter Green joining for Dark Star and beyond.(Allmans also on the bill)..it was amazing and all should take a listen if you havnt in a while.. https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/grateful-dead-allman-peter-green-1970/

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 21:28

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Yes, why not 2/11/70 ?! this could be a very nice pick....

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 04:48

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Would be a good Dave's Pick, too.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 07:41

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I've only listened to the 2/11/70 Dark Star before, so now is a good time to hear the whole show. Adding to the Sunday queue.

I'm enjoying the new Garcia/Kahn. Kahn is more involved than I remember which is a good thing. I can't help but wonder what it would have been like if Garcia chose a more assertive bass player, ala Hot Tuna, ,etc. But of course Jack was already taken. Phil? Maybe Phil wasn't interested and besides if Phil was on the ticket, Deadheads would have mobbed the nice venues they were playing. Rob Wasserman? I guess it came down to the fact that John was a friend and Jerry just liked playing with his friends. There's that interview where Jerry says the Grateful Dead started out as just a collection of friends, who could play "some". Anyway it is nice to hear Kahn on this release and maybe I'll get a better sense of his playing now. The sound quality is pretty good.

February 1970 Fillmore East that’s some hallowed ground.

Maxrod101 - Legendary show, you got any stories from that night?

Ah, 2/11 the most under represented of the famous 3 night February 1970 run.

This is one of those shows where it would be really exciting to know what indeed exists in the Vault.

If the assumption is that we’ve been listening to the famous Fillmore East crew’s recordings all these years passed down from a copy of Bob Menke’s reel master copy (questionable, it might already be a mix of both Vault & FE crew). Monumental efforts have already been taken to restore and compile what we’ve got. That being said there’s more in the Vault, like the Black Peter played on 30 Days of the Dead in 2012.
1. Do the Fillmore East Crew SBDs and the Vault Masters combine to patch that nasty cut in Dark Star? We may never know...
2. What else was played that night? We may never know...
3. What else exists? We may never know...

You get the point. It's been 50 years and here we are with a very nice sounding partial SBD of a fiery February night at the Fillmore.
But yeah, I'd love to know what else there is.
Gans, Lemieux, Lambert, Charlie, Jesse, Corry, anybody?

Coincidently (strange?) I watched a Peter Green Documentary A Man of The World recently on Amazon prime, which is ok, but Mick Fleetwood and Peter Green both discuss playing with the Dead this night, and that for me was worth it. The picture by Amalie Rothschild is one of the all time classic Fillmore East pics, so cool she got that photo, sounds like she didn’t realize how much of legendary show it was to Dead fans until years later.

Alright, this is a mighty task friends, are you up to it? Can you pass the test?

Speaking of, 9/20/70 is an all time great. That NFA > Caution.. wo-ho! Too bad there’s tape shedding, but what survives through the murk is a big WOW!

Inspired I went through those tapes again, man the Dark Star > St. Stephen > NFA **** > Lovelight from 9/19 is so amazing an all time fave. The Darkness Jam > China Cat Jam in NFA just gets you! It's smoking stuff or was I smoking stuff.. hmmm.

In regards to the September 70 shows, I don’t think the Master SBD reels are in the Vault. Dick woulda circulated this stuff, I just gotta believe he would've had to. Based on what circulates, I think this is all that exists. Again I believe from the Fillmore East taping crew and it’s questionable that the FE Crew Master reels even exist anymore. So I don’t see these getting released outside of what we have already. Would love to hear different in this life time, but…

Alright travelers, shall we go to February long ago and catch an epic show?

EDIT: RIP Peter Green

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 10:25

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12/1/73 Boston Music Hall!!! We have the night before and the night after from Dick's Picks..... Could be the second release of a year with the unreleased songs from 11/30 and 12/2/73 as bonus CD....... hmmmmm.... I think I'm going to listen to July 26, 1972 Paramount Theatre.... 2 verse Dark Star into Comes a Time...... "Don't believe everything you read in Time Magazine..." Phil Lesh after Cold Rain and Snow......... Be good everyone Bob t

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 17:15

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I was thinking the same thing more or less. They were riding so high when he checked out. His last words sang in front of a live audience, "I gotta go, but my friend can stick around"

Makes me wonder what would have been...

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 18:27

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I did hit that show (as well as 5/25/74) yesterday. The show was alright, but the mix was really not the best. It did have my requisite Shakedown, and oh yes, a Cumberland Blues. Might check out 10-19-81 next to compare...

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 19:04

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RIP Brent!

Carrier pigeons, you got that right. Good to see you Conekid!

My guess is we wouldn't have Dave's 35 by the weekend. Hope I am wrong.

Anybody think we will still see another box set this year?

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Be well folks.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/26/2020 - 20:45

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I've been meaning to mention the Carrier Dome 84 for some time. ..before we get off the 80's.

Any interest?

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 08:27

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My third and fourth Grateful Dead concerts. One of the first questions I asked David Lemieux at the Grateful Dead conference at San Jose State in November 2014, the only time I met him in person was “do they have the complete September 19, 1970 Fillmore East tapes in the vault?” Answer , “no”.
Years ago I wrote a description of 9/19/70 on this site. It’s still there. I seem to remember having also written a description for 9/17/70 but similar to a few other concert posts I wrote that mysteriously disappeared a few years ago and the more recent deleted list of shows attended I will refer to a commonly used phrase in Mexico, “quien sabe”.
I have a backup for my list of Grateful Dead I attended for twenty five years.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 09:33

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Just wondering which song MD Jim prefers, Althea or Row Jimmy. As for me, I'm partial to Tennesee Jeff, erm Jed. Settle back, easy Jim. Thanks for the pick! :-)

RE: Strider hot damn!
Well you solved one of my hypotheses (hī-pŏth′ĭ-sēz′)..

Did you ask him about 9/17/70 as well?
EDIT: My spanish is rusty, but is the "Quien Sabe" in reference to existence of tapes or Piano player? ;)
I assume that doesn't exist in the Vault either...

These are some of my favorite shows, and since they were your 3rd & 4th that’s a good time to experience some epicness, wow just wow.

A really rough Audience recording of the full acoustic set from 9/19/70 started to circulate again around 7/12 this month. So it appears we've got the full show now, all be it pretty rough Audience recordings of most, but questionably the best part of the SBDs was saved for us to enjoy.

I went on a Darkness darkness journey after listening to this this weekend, fascinated with that jam.
Good Ole Jer, picking out the good stuff and making it even better.

That Acoustic set from 9/17 is one for the ages for sure. Do you recall who was playing the Piano then?

Fascinating stuff..

Happy Monday All!

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 10:04

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Our group was there. My list gave Jack Straw a +2, Shakedown +2, Samson +1, Blk Pete +1.

Thing I remember most, for those who have never been, the carrier dome I was told was a soft roof and the place was pressurized by air. The result was when you left this HUGE gust of wind pushed you out. Needless to say Deadheads being Deadheads kept going back in to feel the push. ( I personally couldn't see doing it,,,,,,,, more than 5 times :-) )

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 07/27/2020 - 15:30

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Between 10-6 and 10-19, 1981 I would give the nod to (drumroll please), 10-19. Check out that set II. Wow! I might venture it's DaP-worthy. Going to have to try and hit 10-20-84 tonight, but Barcelona was well played and the matrix was not too bad for mix (better than 10-6, where I tuned into the Miller-ized board tape)

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 07:32

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:-)