Dave’s Picks Volume 35: Philadelphia Civic Center, Philadelphia, PA 4/20/84

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clayv

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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October 6, 2020 - 3:19pm

#191

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

lists of concerts attended

My list is so pitiful compared to a lot of those that have been shared here, but I am still thankful for the very few concerts I have seen and had decent experiences at. Thankfully no puke on backs of calves for me. That would have really sucked, Jim! Maybe when it's safer to hit live shows again, I would consider attending some in-person live entertainment again. But keep the tales coming!

By the way, I randomly noticed today that the 30 Trips box (affectionately known as Boxzilla, Boxilla or The Porch Crusher) is lean on Late Era China Cat>I Know You Rider's. Other than some of the AUD splices or cd packaging (or original price or price now!) there is very little to complain about with that box. I really think it got some shows out that would have taken much longer or wouldn't have even been considered if other than as a release for a much later date.

Have a Grateful Day all!

P.S. Oh and DH Brewer check out the Internet Archive Grateful Dead forum for Mando Jammer's 1984 show by show review for examples of more good shows from that era. I think another place to start might be BCT, Silva Hall or Greek '84. But, everyone has their favorites. :-)
October 6, 2020 - 3:14pm

#192

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Bring it on, GFar

Rant freely, great read.
October 6, 2020 - 2:59pm

#193

Gary Farseer

Joined:
August 1, 2015

Eddie and a circlular discussion

I was sort of shocked but not surprised about Eddie Van Halen. I saw Van Halen probably around 10 times the first being the 80's Invasion tour and the last being in Charlotte NC in 1996, I think the Balance tour.

Now I am going to try and weirdly bring a few posts together. When I saw them in 1996 it was because some friends of mine were opening for them. I have written about them before. Two of my friends were in the band but not at the same time. The band was Brother Cane which had some decent success in the early to mid 90's. I have posted this link before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwmYh8GubK0.

My friend Glenn was the bass player at the time. He quit and the 2nd guitarist (Roman who plays harmonica in the video) when Glenn played moved to bass and another friend Dave came in as the 2nd guitarist here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFXlBlKMwNI

So Dave actually wrote the better songs than Damon the lead guitarist vocalist of the band. None of Dave's songs ever made it onto a record. OK why all of this?

All are still professional musicians. Damon has written songs for and with Stevie Nicks and others and played in Alice Cooper for about 5 years. Dave plays with Atlanta Rhythm Section, does their summer shed tours and even writes some.

Some mentioned Ricky (Rick) Nelson a few posts back. Well I saw Rick's last show at a very small club (so takes care of the small club discussion) near my hometown. The next day he died in a plane crash. The next day was 1985-12-31. So I had become a head in 1982, first with LiveDead and then Bear's Choice. But it was the Radio City Music Hall taping from 1980 (October 30-31) that I saw in September 1982 on the USA network, that hooked me. On New Year's Eve 1985, I saw for the first time Grateful Dead live (in action) on the USA network nationwide tv broadcast. They started broadcasting with the 2nd set which started locally at 2am. As it had been since the 1980 Radio City shows, I had not seen Jerry in picture or anything. He had aged so much, I guess it didnt surprise me when he got sick. To tie this all back in just a little bit, here is a picture taken 1985-12-31 of Rick Nelson's plane shortly before taking off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFXlBlKMwNI

Now the third gentleman from the left is Damon, who played this show in the opening act called Headline. Just weird how the world turns.

So to go full circle, in 1996 when Brother Cane was opening for Van Halen I got to meet the band, minus Sammy. Eddie, Alex, and Michael were all fun to hang around and easy to get along with, made me feel comfortable. Sammy pulled up separately in a long limousine with a tall beautiful blond with him. He did not acknowledge my friends but more importantly the other three in Van Halen. The other 3 came out and watched Brother Cane's sound check, and joked around. I still have an unworn Mike's Cafe Tshirt I got from Mike. Some may know what Mike's Cafe is...

And to close, I apologize for the long meaningless rant. Here is Rick Nelson's last set list.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ricky-nelson/1985/pjs-alley-guntersville…

His show was a very good show, and I am glad I went. I did have to be dragged to it by older friends...
October 6, 2020 - 2:15pm

#194

Gary Farseer

Joined:
August 1, 2015

Long Strange Trip

I like many others really try to not bring politics or religion to this board. That said within our community I also believe that the minute you cut off an era of the dead's music, you have truly exited the bus and stopped the long strange trip. I am still very weak in 90's Grateful Dead, but I am not closed off to it. Someone wrote they would like to see a post Bruce 90's release. Now that I can accept. Why, because I need to explore this area of Grateful Dead. Just from the very limited Bruce shows I have heard, I notice Bruce seems to lean on his same chops over and over. I could be wrong, I need to hear more Bruce era Grateful Dead as well. One thing I will not do anytime soon is stop my long strange trip.

I have a bunch to post so forgive me if I blast a few out.
October 6, 2020 - 1:19pm

#195

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

wow. Eddie Van Halen

I went through a Van Halen phase in high school, which quickly passed.

Still, Eddie Van Halen: props to you.

and another one's gone, and another one's gone, and another one bites the dust.

but some people keep breathing. odd.
October 6, 2020 - 1:17pm

#196

DaveStrang

Joined:
November 9, 2011

Concert Bills / Last 5

As I expected, my fellow Deadheads saw some incredible multi-bill concerts. A mis-matched 3 band concert that I saw at the Tower Theatre also involved the PSG:

1. Patti Smith Group: avant-punk?

2. Sparks: LA power popsters whose lead vocalist sang with a falsetto...may sound strange, but they've been a long time favorite. This was my 2 younger sisters 1st concert...GD were next...and quite the contrast!

3. UFO: with Michael Schenker; this band was p*ssed off...I don't know if it was because they were the opening act or if it was just being on the bill itself...either way they were the LOUDEST band I EVER heard.
We walked into the Tower about 10 mins. after UFO went on and saw the entire lobby was filled with people. I found Kenny, an usher (from whom I used to purchase 'doses' ) and asked him why everyone was in the lobby. He told me, "Dave, they're so loud you can't stand at the aisle break for more than 2-3 mins". He was standing beside me shouting directly into my ear but I had trouble hearing and understanding him. When I finally got the message I thought 'Too Loud? Impossible!' I walked down to the aisle break and sure enough...this was a pain I never experienced before...like being stabbed in both ears with sharpened screwdrivers. The only people in the theatre were 4 head-banging metalheads standing approximately 30-40 ft. from the left side PA. I think any potential new fans were lost that night as well as the hearing of the 4 Mheads.

Last 5:

1. Hank Ballard & The Midnighters - Sexy Ways; a remastered single disc compilation put together by King Records & Rhino...thanks for the remastering Rhino. Highly suggestive lyrics or outright lewd and obscene as deemed by 1950's standards? Released 1993.

2. X - Alphabetland; 40 years after their 1st album, X come roaring back in style. 11 songs, 27 mins. total...hit-n-run and they're done...all meat no potatoes.

3. Louvin Brothers - Tragic Songs Of Life; a proto-blend of Country/Bluegrass/Folk/Gospel and a major influence on the Everly Brothers who in turn would be a major influence on the Beatles, particularly Paul McCartney. I've come to realize there are less than 6 degrees of separation when it comes to music. Ira's mandolin playing would go on to influence others for years to come. Combine that with the almost unearthly sibling vocal harmonies and a cover of Leadbelly's 'In The Pines' and you've got a winner on your hands IMHO.

4. Paul Kelly - Spring And Fall; Australia's answer to Dylan. He's been at it for 40 years and is virtually unknown in the States...I think everyone can name an artist or band who they feel is/was criminally overlooked or underrated. For me Paul Kelly is one of them.

5. Yes - Keys To Ascension & KTA 2 (studio); Two 2 disc releases, 1 disc studio/1 disc live for each. The 2 studio discs make up, what I think is the last great album by the well known quintet of Anderson/Howe/Squire/Wakeman/White. The live discs make up a complete show (compiled from 3 nights) at the 650 seat Fremont Theatre in San Luis Obispo, CA and is a keeper as well.

+1 GD - Dick's Picks Vol. 3: 5/22/77 Pembroke Pines, FL ; a fellow DH posted a link for the missing songs on a long gone DaP thread, and I say Thank You...I need complete shows!

Thanks to my fellow DHs, GD and Rhino for providing an oasis of happy, controlled insanity in these very uncertain times...sorry for rambling!
October 6, 2020 - 12:48pm

#197

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

RIP Eddie Van Halen....

....throat cancer.
October 6, 2020 - 12:37pm

#198

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

Two Opposing Shows

Two shows I saw that were both unexpected for different reasons, were by the “two” Beatle drummers, Ringo Starr, and Pete Best. Starr was playing with one of his All Starr lineups (I remember Edgar Winter) at a local casino, and while not a huge Beatle guy, a friend is, so I went. I always felt Starr’s playing was underrated, but at this show, it felt so mailed-in, so contrived. He even remarked about not needing to leave the stage to do the encore, because “you know I’m going to do it”. Kind of a let down, especially after seeing McCartney a few times, and he really worked it. Starr played some drums, but mostly just did that goofy peace sign and walked the stage.
Pete Best was touring his bar band, playing small venues and bars, and he was playing west of Toronto in a pretty run down town called Hamilton (the Dead have played there), and we went more for the novelty. Surprisingly, despite playing this shabby hall, the guy played his ass off, and it was all pretty upbeat Mersey music, and there was never a let down in the tempo of the show. He hung around for a meet and greet after, and a nice guy to boot. I have no idea why the Beatles booted him way back when (my friend almost directly asked him, but he gave a PC answer about how “great the lads were”), but his playing was pretty stellar from what I heard.
October 6, 2020 - 11:52am

#199

estimated-eyes

Joined:
December 31, 2008

shows

For multi-band shows, two that stand out for me are:

Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Robert Cray, Alpine Valley 1990 night one of two. We all know how this ended on night two, but for many years this was one of the best nights of my life. A fairly mixed group of my friends (some from college, some from high school, some hippies, some who preferred metal) caravaned and parked with a keg and bong in the lot-- the back lots were very different than they are today with woods and trails to navigate. We all drank beer, smoked and then me and my college buds ate paper and took off on our own. Stevie Ray blew us away-- will never forget how he just owned that stage that night. Clapton was good, but how to follow that up!

The other one was a 'Blues Festival' featuring Dr. John, Buddy Guy and B.B. King, summer of 1991 (I think) at the Marcus Amphitheater in Milwaukee. This one stands out for how inappropriate the venue was. There were probably less than 1,000 people in that 20,000 person shed. Dr. John did his set, including a song with a lady dancing with a python. Buddy Guy does his set and did his "Roaming Buddy" in this empty amphitheater-- ran all the way up to the bathrooms on the concourse at the top!! I was hooked on Buddy Guy and saw him as often as I could for the next 20 years.

The next time I saw Buddy Guy was the best club show I saw-- R&R Station in Madison, winter 1992. Also saw Otis Rush in a small club in Milwaukee, c. 1998.
October 6, 2020 - 11:28am

#200

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Last three

I saw the fast and furious Norwegian jazz rock band Elephant 9 in January this year at the famous jazz club Ronnie Scotts. At the set break I overheard someone asking for his money back as it wasn't proper jazz. He got that right!
At the end of last year I saw Gong/Steve Hillage and a few weeks before that Hawkwind. And all was well with the world.
I'd forgotten about Mahogony Rush. I'll bet they were a blast live.

John Perry Barlow

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Thank God I dont have medicine....

....to keep me alive via the mail.
Taps head.
The fact that this virus is a political stance to begin with is pathetic. Fuck.
Look up the postmaster generals wiki. There you go.
This matters because we want our Daves.

@ VGUY

You are of course entitled to your opinion. Believe the union president or take in the news and see what's happening. I don't work for the usps but interact with them daily. They are doing a damn good job all things considered.
I don't mean to start a fight but I felt the need to stand up for people doing a hard job under very difficult circumstances.

@snafu....

....we've disagreed before. But I agree that there are factors that we cannot control. That needs to change.
Difficult circumstances....

SNAFU / USPS

I'm not denigrating the USPS...they're just doing as instructed. I have much respect for them and think the Postal Service is still one of the best, if not the best in the world.

mailing

I think the biggest hold up is the mail innovation. They seem to send out "sent" notices when the word is given to ups. They then have to label and mail. I think they hold everything until the truck going somewhere is filled. You in the backwater, 400 packages a week, may take a week to fill. NYC, maybe trucks going everyday. Also UPS don't work no weekends. Mine got to UPS local Friday, but USPS won't see till Monday, Post Office will have it here next day!

Just for a chuckle, order new slippers from New Zealand got here in 1 week.

Bob had a line that spoke of his time there I believe....

The only decent thing I did when I worked as a postal clerk
Was to haul your picture down off the wall near the cage where I used to work

Owsley Stanley foundation mailings

When I ordered the Comander Cody release from Bear's Sonic Journals,back in July, I received that in a week at the most. They get their stuff out real fast. I believe Im going to adopt one of their reels. I have had nothing but great service from them, and always a great product.

Phil Lesh Worked for the USPS in the Early 60's

...and the place ran like a well-oiled machine...coincidence?

And Billy the Kid....

Listened to 8/2/69 while I cleaned up my garage today...enjoyable show, great sound quality, excellent suggestion.

argh

It was more enjoyable getting stitched up in the ER this morning..

Then reading some of the political banter here. Glad you enjoy it. I'd rather gargle with cheap tequila mixed with broken glass. To most of us its a buzzkill.

Salt Lake City....

....here we come. A new pitstop for me.

Salt Lake no kidding

so it used to be somewhere in Tenn was where this journey would start...from there to Ohio to Phoenix to Flagstaff and then to me...for the first time ever it started in Carlsbad, CA and went to Salt Lake City...why it didn't go from Carlsbad directly to Phoenix I have no idea...this in itself will add two, maybe three days to getting it still...oh well...

@ dennis

I do a lot of business with ebay and amazon. I think the issue is with the seller. All the services mark it shipped when the seller notifies them they printed a lable. Ebay sellers are usually very good. But some are doozies. One guy marked an item as shipped then didn't give it to the po for 3 weeks. With all these delivery companies business is way up ( yes the most definitely jobs to be had) but for obvious reasons already mentioned they're having a tough time making goals
One other thing we all need to look in the mirror. We are so used to instant gratification we get freaked out if we don't have it now. That includes me.

5 Blasters

Last 5, I think.....

Stay Sick - The Cramps -"keep the rewards, I'd just as soon stay sick"-fine advice.
Baggy Rehearsals CD 1 and 2 - Jimi Hendrix
Magick Brother Mystic Sister - Daevid Allen and Gilli Smyth
Spice Doubt - Ozric Tentacles -vey aromatic, this one.
and last but not least
Complete Recordings 1929-1934 CDs 1 and 2 - Charley Patton - a few snap crackles and pops on these-but if you can tune in you get transported to another world. Amazing.

Dark Star 8/3/69. Family Dog

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_fM3wzLNhU. Nice Dark Star. Charles Lloyd plays saxophone and David Laflamme plays violin. I sure hope we get a 1969 box set one day

First class mail. Is another…

First class mail. Is another version of priority. You guys should start using first class.

Wooh! Checked the UPS…

Wooh! Checked the UPS tracking site this AM and i finally see updated location info for my #9274... should get to me in a couple days. That is a big refreshing SIGh of relief

8-3-69

very good show, great guests, always liked David Laflamme's violin 🎻 Great sb on archive, pick of the day?
Last five
see above
Montrose
Jade Warrior 1st & 2nd
David Bowie Aladdin Sane
Tangerine Dream In Search of Hades "Oedipus Tyrannus"
Randy California and Ed Cassidy Potatoland

Shipping

Like others my DAP has been sitting in Fontana, CA since the day it shipped last week. Same thing happened with WMD 50th, ended up taking 10 days to get to me.

Just for reference I ordered GarciaLIve 14, and I think I got it in 3 days. Don’t think it is USPS, probably Warner cutting costs.

Reminisces of Ventura...

Thanks Billy for bringing up the Ventura Anniversary dates....always had a blast...the '82 shows allowed camping in the parking lot and it was a wild scene as can be imagined...we had friends who had rooms at the nearby Holiday Inn which we made our base to shower etc...after that the folks I would go with camped at McGrath State Beach down the road in Oxnard...we had reserved campsites for five spots in '86 when the news broke about Jerry's illness...since we had folks from all over the country driving/flying in we decided just to go and invade the campground anyway...we drove in and set up on Thursday the 11th and stayed through Monday the 14th...Lots of others had the same idea so the campground rocked all weekend...one funny moment occured when I was walking with some of the Ladies to one of the restroom/shower areas and an elderly woman stopped me and asked very politely "Excuse me Sir but i can't help but notice there are a lot of you folks here wearing the same kind of T-shirts...are you some sort of club?" I told her "Yes Ma'am...we're a musical appreciation society gathered for the weekend"...she put her hand on my forearm and said "Oh how nice"...great great moment...Musically 7-18-82 had a great shimmering "Crazy Fingers" that I will never forget....

Shipping

My attempt at tracking gives this message

‘UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number. Details are only available for shipments made within the last 120 days. Please verify your information.’

As I said yesterday any time in August will be great. At least my previous DaP’s have eventually arrived which isn’t the case for everyone. Of course, dead.net have us all over a barrel since they are the only source of the music.

To be fair, my Garcialive #14 was shipped on 17th July and tracking did nothing until 25th and 26th. Since then it has gone quiet. I expect it will turn up eventually.

Guten Morgen, liebe Totenkopfen

4/20/84 should arrive this week...maybe even today.

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Nappy Rags / Ventura

Ventura was a blast, it was a non stop party. The Dead played alot of cool places in the 1980s , Ventura , Frost, Greek , Warfield, and the Marin Civic Center. I bet they played a lot of nice places back East, I never went further east than Nevada to see the Dead.

Don't Have Time For The Pain

I don't know where my Dave's 35 is, but I got PLENTY of things to listen to(too many if you ask my wife!!)
I don't see a second box set this year(but maybe American Beauty will fit the(duck) bill.

Last 5:
Judy Henske & Jerry Yester-Farewell Aldebaran
Willie Nelson-Shotgun Willie(So Good!!)
Joe Beck & David Sanborn-Beck & Sanborn(CTI Label)
Bill Frisell/Jim Hall-Hemispheres
Mighty Baby-Day Of The Soup

Not gonna let anyone take my joy away.

Making progress

Tracking now reports that my DaP35 is in Ohio.

Jerry Sandals?

Anyone know anyone who won the Jerry Sandals on Saturday?

Colin - re: Tracking

My tracking info for both Dave's Picks 35 & GarciaLive 14 is identical to yours.

For Dave's Picks 35 UPS reports: "UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number. Details are only available for shipments made within the last 120 days. Please verify your information."

And for GarciaLive #14 it was shipped on 17th July and tracking subsequently showed some action on 25th, then 26th when it departed the processing center.

I guess there is nothing to be done but tough it out.

American Beauty

Has anybody actually said that the anniversary of American Beauty will be coming out this year? In a way, it would make sense to hold it back until next year.
I assumed that 3/1/69 would be coming out on vinyl for RSD this year on the strength of 2/27 and 2/28 coming out the previous two years. Completely wrong. Unfortunately. But its not always easy to second guess what will happen next on the strength of what has happened in the past.

3/1/69 vinyl. American Beauty

Maybe they are waiting for 2/28/69 to sellout , before they put out 3/1/69. I would think that American Beauty would come out in Oct since its original release date was in November, but you are going to have a Dave's Pick come out in Oct, so who knows.

Guten Abend Lieber Totenkopf Freund Proudfoot

you're so funny. Seems you're on the positive side.
Mine changed to: Shipment information received by UPS Mail Innovations.
Whatever that means?
Still waiting for Dap 33 and 34.
Du hast es gut mein Freund, alles Gute!
Gerd

Tracking update...

Less than 2 hours after I checked the status of my Dave's Picks 35 order and UPS couldn't locate the shipment details, the order has been processed and is on it's way to a UPS facility. Moving real slow, but moving...

"Mister Blutarsky, Zero...Point...Zero"

0.0--The exact equivalent of my productivity this week. How does Boss Wormer expect me to telework this week with hockey on TV...all...damn...day?!?

Can they see my beer bottle and weed on this Zoom call? Did I just say that out loud?

Utah Arrival

One of the benefits of living a stones-throw from Salt Lake City....

DP35 # 20002 / 22000 arrived safe and sound

Still waiting on 33 and 34?

Das ist doch eine grosse Schade.

That is certainly a big shame.

I wish I could help. Really, why do Europe Deadheads get screwed over so often?

"Finally got my mail order tickets for the Fall 91 tour." - Gunther in Frankfurt, 8 3 20.

Jimi Hendrix just told me:

"Just ask the Axis. He knows everything."

Hopefully he knows why delivering small packages of value to Europe is such a Gordian knot of process.

What Made Stoltzfus Change To Proudfoot

and why is Gunther sending you tickets from '91?
Frankfurt is about in my neighborhood.
Would he also send tickets to Stolzgerd?
G.

84

I for one am looking forward to a good sounding and hot 80's show. Nice change of pace.

Stoltzfus to proudfoot

Truth is, a few days ago this site started not accepting my usual log in. So I got a gmail account and am now proudfoot.

"stoltzfus" is German for "proudfoot", for inquiring minds.

Gunther just now put his extras in the mail to Stolzgerd

They should arrive in 2027.

;)

Proudfoot

I'm not used to such fast deliveries.
Thanks
Gerd

Tracking

It says mine was in Carlsbad on Friday. I wished they had called me, I could have picked it up. But it's gone now.

1984

My copy just arrived in Bensenville, I reckon by covered wagon. For all I know its somewheres betwixt Springfield and Shelbyville.

Outspoken

I encourage everyone to say whatever they want regardless of topic and express themselves freely. I enjoy all of you, even when you get a little salty. Our little forum here is a microcosm of society at large, even if it's usually a bit more pleasant than that.

The crux of the biscuit is the music of the Grateful Dead, and Jerry Garcia. But read an interview with Garcia or any of the guys in the band; it always ends up being a free-from improvisation that goes anywhere and everywhere, just like their music.

I see no reason why this forum should be any more controlled, restricted or censored than the actual source. Of course, deliberately being hurtful or hateful cannot be encouraged, but IMO all else is fair game.

Be well everyone.

\m/

Fair game....

....Vegas Golden Knights won today 5-3. Twas a fair game.
I wish the MLB all the best, but they are screwing it up.

I disagree

Back and forth politics? Anywhere but here. It never ends well. Take it to facebook or send PMs. You can say what you want here and no one is going to censor you for the most part.. but it's deflating to read political points and counter points haplessly snuck into a Dave's Picks thread. It's too far off topic and it turns most people off. It's the written, posted form of Brown Acid. Write it down, keep a journal.. save it up.. and bring it to your next Thanksgiving dinner with the in-laws after a few bottles of wine where it belongs.

Any other topic less human sex trafficking and serial murders is welcome.

Tell me again why political banter belongs here and why we all come here to read about your political views?

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Square peg, round hole.

Square pegged in the round hole

Yee-ouch

The world is so fucked up.

Politics or not.

That's why I love the GD and living in WA. The things that keep me on this Earth.

Acoustic Throwing Stones. 12/4/88

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VL0NSk8_50s. I believe this was at Neil Youngs Bridge concert.

In praise of tolerance

I don't mind what people post on here. If I don't like the look of something, I just whizz past it. I can't ever remember being angry or annoyed about anything anyone's posted on here. Apart from when one poster is intentionally rude towards another. But I have probably been guilty of that myself in the past.

I wonder if lockdown has impacted on the type and range of subjects put forward for discussion. Certainly, my opportunities for talking to people face to face have reduced drastically over the last 4 months. Being single and having no family in the country ( as well as being an awkward bastard) it might well be next Sunday when I next speak to someone. So what I might once have said face to face might now spill out to an unexpected person- the postman for example- or on a forum not designed for that topic. Maybe we should all give each other a bit of leeway-at all times-but never more so than now.

Pre-shipment info

USPS has been notified by UPS that UPS has a package with my name on it that they need to hand off to USPS.
Waiting for the hand off......

UPS, just call an audible and bring it directly to me. I know you are capable, your brown trucks come down my street everyday and my dog barks at them.

@ ice cream kid

Haha. My dog used to bark at the ups guy all the time. Then I started giving him a treat every time. He started spinning in circles at the front door

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