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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • JimInMD
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    Agree w/ Daverock (and others)

    ... but it always seemed obvious to me, I am not surprised. I am ok with this pick. My wow factor is between 68 through 74. ..but I enjoy hot shows from all years and eras. I am familiar with these shows, I love their mid to late 80's take on Desolation Row for example, it's got a Dew, a Cumberland. We can't be surprised to see these shows get released.

    What I do find surprising is where it is in the rotation and on the biggest subscription year so far. The marketing part of my mind thinks this will affect their ability to so gracefully hit the 22k mark next year, time will tell. I would go so far to say they probably could have done a better job mixing things up the last 9 years and could have done a better job mixing it up this year too. As unpredictability affects the stock market, it might just affect their subscription market. Finally, I really hope (wish) that if they are going to release more of these cassette masters that they do a little better job remastering them. #35 sounded 'pretty good' but I have to believe the more qualified (and considerate) posters here that warned it was not quite pitch corrected. I wonder out loud if there are issues with other aspects of the cleanup and restoration efforts in these years (dolby vs not etc).

    Not a rant.. I am ok with this release just curious to the timing, etc. Did someone mention 12/18/1973? (hehe)

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    last release of the year

    I might be reading this wrong, but i don't think it's fair to suggest Dave chooses potentially undesirable shows once people have paid their money. In fact he released some pretty amazing shows for the 3rd and 4th picks of the year:

    #32 - March 1973
    #31 - Dec 1979
    #28 - June 1976
    #27 - Sept 1983
    #24 - Aug 1972
    #23 - Jan 1978
    #20 - Dec 1981
    #19 - Jan 1970
    #16 - March 1973
    #15 - April 1978
    #12 - Nov 1977
    #11 - Nov 1972
    #8 - Nov 1980
    #7 - Apr 1978
    #4 - Sept 76
    #3 - Oct 1971

    Again, i might be missing the point, but while this year is different in that there are back to back 80s releases, historically the 3rd and 4th picks of the year include some pretty amazing shows spanning the dead's history.

  • Jack_O_Roses 0420
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    If a 1987 show is to be the release for this episode of Dave's Picks, why didn't he choose the two nights BEFORE this, from Hampton? Great Googly-Moogly, the 03/24/1987 show has the most off-the-hook Terrapin EVER! If there was going to be a 1987 show released by this series, I was really hoping it would be this Hampton Show. I was there, that Terrapin had the entire crowd pushed to the back of the Coliseum like those old Maxell ads showing the music blowing the guy in the chair back.

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    Daverock, do you feel that you have been taken advantage of?

    I agree with your suggestion, Dave should pick a 1991 show for DaP 37 and announce it when early bird subscriptions start, and not announce what DaP 38 and the bonus disc are until April when it is ready to go on sale.

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    It's always open to debate when you judge someone's motives on the basis on their actions. In this case, the honourable thing for Dave Lemieux to do would be to release two shows from the 1979-1995 timespan to open the season on Dave's Picks 2021. That would be an open demonstration that he genuinely believes shows from this era are as valid as the ones preceding it. If he goes back to 1969-1974, then...
    Announcing all four shows to be released would be a bonus-but again, I think the reason this isn't done is because they are fearful that subscription numbers would drop if people knew what they would be shelling out for.
    As I have said before-the 1960s are shockingly underrepresented in this series. Many unreleased great shows there, I would have thought.

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    Count me in as skeptical. This release seems like Dave’s gift to himself. I saw six shows of this tour, including the first night of Hartford. None of them were overly memorable. More like a few highlights here and there. Have not listened to any of that tour since seeing the shows. If I recall, 3/26 had a cool Midnight Hour/Cold Rain opener, a nice Birdsong and a high energy China/Rider.

    Dave has done a superb job, but the supply of quality shows is certainly dwindling. I will give the subscription one more year and then likely revert to a la carte.

    Seattle Kraken - not a huge fan of the name, but the jersey design is tremendous. They really look nice. By the way, congrats to the Lightning. Way to go Jon. You are a first class guy.

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    87?

    Weird, i usually get the emails but apparently missed this one (better check that i'm still on their list).

    If the next Dave's is indeed from 1987 i think that's cool. The boys were really energized in 87 and a quick glance at those set lists makes me pretty excited to hear it (must admit i'm unfamiliar with those shows).

    Dave has always advertised that this series will represent every era of the band. It just took some time to ramp up the Brent era picks. There is some risk subscribing to a series where you only know 50% of the releases in advance. Some people hope and pray for no 80s shows, while others would like some variety from the usual 70s shows (no matter how great they are). After 36 picks i think it's safe to say there is something for everyone.

    They are certainly making enough of these now where you can choose not to subscribe and still have a great shot at getting the releases you want (as long as you don't care about the annual bonus disc).

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    Jerry's comeback after the coma was one of the best stories of the 30 year run of the Dead. I feel for the people that don't like their music past (pick your year). Bob Weir considers the late eighties through Brent's passing some of the best playing they ever had, but what does he know??
    #32 was from the Spectrum 3/24/1973. Oh and a great show.

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    Daverock, I hope you are wrong about this. I think it is too early to tell, however, to support your theory, one of the last two releases from last year was from December '79 and all '80s releases have come in the second half of the year which suggests that indeed the potentially problematic releases are being released in the second half of the year, when nobody knows in advance what those releases will be. By problematic, I mean releases that were recorded on cassette tapes where the sound quality is barely acceptable or where Jerry's voice is so shot that it makes one cringe. We know that most of the top notch shows have already been released and it seems reasonable to assume that the great shows that are still to be released will come out in the first half of the year. It also seems reasonable to assume that this is due to the marketing policy of the Rhino bean counters. The bottom line is that Rhino are just another commercial enterprise and as such, making as much money as possible is the reason for their existence. Call me cynical if you like, but my cynicism comes from age and experience. Grumpy old men rule!

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    Mr Heartbreaker- spot on

    Your last post sums up how I feel about this release pretty well. 1987 after 1984 is taking the proverbial. The fact that Dave's Picks 37-and 38, for that matter-will quite likely be from stellar years underlines to me how manipulative this series has become. I feel like stopping subscribing - but then it wouldn't surprise me if 37 and 38 are from 1972 or 1969-with a bonus disc chucked with one of them. This will clearly be an attempt to keep people like me subscribing, and buying shows that they otherwise wouldn't buy. A la carte seems the way to go. I gave up smoking, so surely I can give up subscribing.

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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It just landed in SF mail depot I think maybe Wednesday. Notice 29 July arrival ( hopefully) 5 August. Not to shabby concidering

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I had a great serial killer story too. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a message board for that one?

No seriously, if there is a spiritual vibe that holds these message boards together, it's the music alone. That's the common link, not politics. Plenty of places to air political opinions on the internet; but this is a board that works some magical good vibes by bringing people together to memorialize tie dye draped amplifiers, American flags, reefer smoke fog clouded stages, Pigpen cowboy hat silhouettes, and everything else that makes Dead Freaks Unite.

Sure, nobody can stop you from writing what you want about politics, but that doesn't mean the majority came here to be dragged down by it. Nobody's lacking for political info or POVs and there are always going to be major clashes of opinions in these waters. It has nothing to do with, censorship; it has to do with preserving good vibes and escaping the 24x7 bombardment of political conflict we receive through social media. At its best, this site has been a great escape from all of that. We've made this site a portal into the Dead's peaceful music and message of the past - why piss on our oasis?

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DAVEROCK, quite eloquently expressed, and I concur. A post can't hurt me if I don't read it. Actually, it can't hurt me if I DO read it, unless I allow it to. I find the best way to put down an unwanted discussion is to ignore it completely.
And for my Maryland brother Jim, I totally understand your feelings also. You don't come on here looking for non-music related posts. Nor do I, but I guess we can't police ourselves as well as we would like.
I try to ignore unwanted posts, or at best, see them as a comical diversion(you can translate comical as ignorant, if you like).
Just hangin' out, waiting to see when my Dave's might show up.

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Yeah, we probably can't censure everyone's posts when they veer off into left/right field. You can ignore 'em for a while. And when was the last time bumper sticker banter changed anybody's mind anyway? Still every now and then somebody's got to ask the passionate, persistent, political wonks, as Keithfan so eloquently put it, "Do you REALLY need to piss on our oasis?" Really? . . . Onward.

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Anyone experience this: I got the CD collection and, while importing it into my music library, there was no metadata on the CDs. That meant I had to manually type in every song's name, the CD name, artist name, etc.

I don't know if this was fluke or a quality control issue. I hope someone can look into this so future releases don't have this issue.

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I think my dog would take the treat as confirmation that barking at the UPS truck was the right thing to do.

My dog likes the mailman, but maybe that’s because he carries dog treats in his mail truck.

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Frost ‘82

Bob says “Don’t forget to vote yes on 10”, or something like that.

Anyway, as Homer said, “don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos.”

"My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"

-Kang

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actually received Dave's Picks 35 yet?

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After Winterland closed down, this was the first show at the Oakland Auditorium. I ended up seeing a lot of great shows in this place.

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Did you ever upload album art for DaP 34 or Workingman's for that matter? Anything else I'm missing? Just wondering... :-)

Stay healthy and sane all! Jeff

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has arrived my home in Germany today. 18 days after shipping!!!!!!!!
Garcia 13 took only 14 days!!!!
DaP????
35 is not moving
G.

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Hey WilfredT, Yes, I did post a link a while back, but posts tend to get buried pretty fast around here. Here is a link to all Dave's Picks Covers (1-34) plus Dave's annual Bonus CDs:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl…

As soon as my Dave's 35 shows up, I'll scan and add it to the same link – USPS has been assuring be for days that they're "Currently Awaiting Package" whatever that means. 🤪

BTW: I didn't try to scan the Workingman's 50th lenticular cover, but give me a minute and I'll post a link to what I have for WMD, Angel's Share and 2/21/71.

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Since that forum is now, um, dead, I ask here, despite this being the DaP 35 thread:

So I listened to the remastered WD last night. Great details I hadn't heard before, and some imperfections that made it an even better experience. But I couldn't help but notice on several tracks (not all) that Garcia's voice is heavily processed, ala Aoxomoxoa. It's got that reedy, compressed nitrous sound to it. Never noticed that on prior mixes/releases, so I'll go back and check.

Anyone else notice this? This pronounced sound treatment on Jer's voice came close to marring the tracks I heard it on. I think High Time is an example.

Also, what's everyone's notion on whether we're seeing another box this year, apart from DaP 36 and AB 50th?

And does anyone expect the OSF to release that 12-31-69 tape it just announced?

I will need to listen to WMD again to listen more closely.

AB 50th: 9 20 70 with 9 19 70 filler!
Dave's 36: a 68 show!!!
Box...I hope one gets released. My wallet doesn't need it, but I do. Summer 85!
OSF and 12 31 69: I certainly would welcome that. Legal issues might pop up, though.

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FIRSTS
1st Althea
1st Sailor
The Tiger
8/4/79

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Hi,

I'm currently waiting on my own UK shipment of DP 35 (and Dap34) as well as Garcia Live 14.
If anyone else in the UK can send me a PM can we discuss import charges?

As said before, this will surely come out next year, not this.

I'm a bit luke warm about the boxes-the duty and import charges etc. are extortionate, and it seems a bit hit and miss when/if they will even turn up. I'd keep my fingers crossed and go for one from 1966-1969, and maybe 1972, but I'm not sure about the other years.

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I don't read these threads on dead.net as much as I used to or post as I used to in the last several years.
But I WILL post "something political"

VOTE:
I *vote* for Grateful Dead as my favorite band because of:
1.) 05/15/70 complete;
2.) 09/24/88 complete;
3.) 06/21/89 mostly complete;
4.) 12/29/77 mostly complete.

You may vote for:
a. ) All four shows;
b.) combination of any four;
c.) none of the above candidates;
d.) just tell me that I have no idea what the Grateful Dead were about even after many shows over 20 years for me;
e.) any individual show;
f.) Pigpen is dead;
g.) all of the above letters;
h.) all of the above.

Thanks

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I would like everyone on this forum to pray, or, will positive vibrations into The Universe for this: The soundboards are found from The Radio City/ Warfield/New Orleans Anniversary shows and matrixed with audience tapes and released as boxsets. "I have a Dream!"

I think a moment of silence is in order.

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Ah, a man after my own tastes. Except wishful thinking on '68 as a DaP -- the shows were too short, about one disc long, so Dave would have to pull (3) '68 shows to make a DaP.

And I do not believe there would ever be "legal issues" between the OSF and the GD. You know the OSF is Owsley's son and Jer's daughter is on the board. So OSF and GD are sympatico. I'd bet my GD collection there isn't one member of the GD who wouldn't give the OSF permission to release a GD tape.

They could have preserved that recording by handing it over to GD to get it Plangentized and Normanized. Then full on commercial release under the BSJ banner. GD would still get royalties.
But we would be the real winners.

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Ja, gerne.

Re GD and OSF:

My cynical streak says. "Money is always an issue."

But may I please be mistaken, Lord.

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ups took 2 days to move cd's 10 miles :-)

Post office got it today, so it's coming tomorrow, yeah!

Got my Dicks Pick 26 vinyl today from Real Gone, number 360 of out 1500.

Now where did I put that turntable......

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I would imagine if they are going to put another box set out this year, they would have to do it pretty quickly . They still have AB 50th coming out in Sept or Oct, Dave's 36 in Oct, and two box sets PNW and 1976 that they are trying to sell out.

You said it. Living in the Bay Area with a friend in the office I got to see all Greek/ Kaiser, Oakland aud/ SF Civic etc. They all had their benefits but even though some of the mid 80's shows at the Kaiser could be weak the venue was big fun. Plus I was lucky in that my friend hooked me up with back stage. One time the ABC was pissed at Bill so they said he couldn't sell Beer back there. Ok fu it's a private party and the beer and wine are free. Thank you Uncle BoBo

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...anatomical reference to Cats (Under The Stars)....is the current state really such a surprise given This leading tone what seems like an " " Eternity" ago?

If this Touch of Grey has a "silver lining", hope it's a good one.

Debating the positive merits of 80s Dead with people who hate 80s Dead seems so trivial now...if only musical taste was the biggest worry.

Glad everybody still posting is safe.

....my 35 went from Carlsbad Ca to SLC then back to Fontana CA. It's actually fascinating.
This is why checking tracking stresses me out.
Stay safe. Oh, and don't forget,
"It Is What It Is." Whelp. That about covers it. Thanks. Logistics 101.

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Up to about 7 years ago, my main way of listening to the Dead was on 5-6 hour car journeys. I would download shows from Shakedown Stream and Dead Show of the Month, put them on cd, and I was good to go.

I haven't looked in this box for many years, but I did yesterday-and pulled out the above show from Hollywood. Freaking amazing ! The first set has got stellar versions of Cumberland Blues and Hard To Handle and the second set has what must be one of the all time great Truckin'-Drums-Other One-Me and My Uncle-Other One jams going. This jam sounded familiar-and sure enough, its tucked away at the end of Dicks picks 35.

The downside with the podcasts was that they used to go onto cd as 79 minute chunks of music-and I couldn't access a track played at, say the 36 minute mark, without listening to the whole of the preceding 36 minutes. This didn't matter when I was driving. But listening to the show reminded me of how I used to hear the Dead, which, due to context, time and place, was very different to how I hear them now.

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As well as the 7 tracks on Dick's Picks 35, there are 5 more tracks from Hollywood Palladium 8/6/71 on the bonus disc that came with Road Trips Vol.1 No.3 - Summer '71. Great stuff. Can't go wrong with 1971.

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I just made a donation. That guy brought so much goodness into the world that I'm happy to do something small to further his visions.

And yes, THANK YOU, Uncle Bobo. You, too, are an angel of the first degree. I cannot even imagine how wonderful it must have been to attend concerts where the promoter always went out of his way to make things affordable, comfortable, and fun. That's 180 degrees different than concerts today.

The Grateful Dead were amazing musicians, but it's also amazing to think of all the people around them who brought something Grate to the mix, be it philosophically, financially, or lyrically.

Be kind, rewind.

...that The Mormon Tabernacle Choir has kidnapped my DaP...I think they're trying to work out vocal parts on Terrapin...Five days in SLC? Yeow...

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Daverock I love that 8/6/71 show. It has a great mix of the newer tunes from that year with a mix of old school classics. Plus it does have some good jamming and of course Pigpen.

I know most of that show was released between DP 35 and the Summer 71 Road Trips (I forgot the number). However I prefer the audience tape as it sounds great. The best part of the audience source is that ut can be downloaded from the live music archive.

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Is slowing (almost) EVERYTHING down!
1.) The manufacturing process in the CD plant & printing plant;
2.) The WMG warehouse operations;
3.) All shipping facilities (and the DaP 35 out for export from the USA);
4. You and I.

What's not being slowed down in my humble opinion, are the computer systems that take your orders and credit cards.
Steal Your Face, er, Steal Your Money, Time & Patience, is mo' like it.

I'm still a-waitin' for my DaP35 to arrive.

The same thing happened with WMD-50 and that was mass general release to the public.

You move too fast
You got the morning last
Just kickin' down the cobblestones
Lookin' for fun and feelin' groovy

Feeling groovy jam GD

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It was a paradise for lizards when young Brigham saw it first
He said I've seen some nasty deserts Lord, but this one here's the worst
Then the Lord called down to Brigham, said "I've got a great idea"
I want a mighty city and I think I want it here

Salt Lake City, that town of righteousness and fame
Salt Lake City, don't sound like much, but hell what's in a name?
Nobody ever sings about it, but Lord I be going there just the same

Salt Lake City, where it's so easy keeping straight
Salt Lake City, just really makes Des Moines look second rate
Ain't making no big deal about it
But I hear the Mormon girls are really great

Salt Lake City, hey, dig that Tabernacle Choir
Salt Lake City, yeah they be bound to take you higher
There just ain't no two ways about it, yes Lord they really light my fire

Well Brigham kicked a prairie dog, and he muttered in his beard
Said you've put me through some changes Lord but this one's really weird
The Lord just laughed at Brigham, said "you'd better get to work"
The next time I check in here, I want paradise on earth

Salt Lake City, where Brigham made the desert bloom
Salt Lake City, put a colour TV in every room
And they got them crazy Mormon chicks, yes I'll be going there real soon

Salt Lake City, hey feel that magic in the air
Salt Lake City, you know that's kind of why I like it there
Salt Lake City, well you know that's where I'm bound
Salt Lake City, I'm going down to Salt Lake town

https://www.dead.net/song/salt-lake-city

Looks like I’m not getting 35...why, good question?
I’ll tell ya why, cause all these lame ass companies are greedy and have stopped giving people shipping options.
This smart post BS has to stop, or at least give us options!
Remember when you could choose different shipping options? Sure some cost more, (but we pay for it not them?) but for those of us who cannot get home delivery, and are never sure how things will ultimately be sent, it would be worth it to be able to choose say UPS directly to our residences instead of this smart post/multi vendor BS that according to evidence from many posters here is problematic at best!
Since we never are sure how anything will be shipped the PO has instructed to put your physical address followed by X and your box number, that way if it’s sent to the PO, since it’s a small town, they’ll put it in the box via the X box number. Been doing this for all the years we’ve been subscribing to Dave’s as well as all other dead.net purchases. Never had a problem including the first 2 releases from this year...Today, get notice that they sent it back because of improper address?? WTF! So either dead.net didn’t label correctly, or more likely the PO just decided to stop doing what they’ve done for decades? BS!
Ya know, its 2020 receiving goods and services should not be this difficult! The only other problems we’ve ever had are because of this smart post BS!

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All ripped in, have some painting to do, so I'll listen then.

I personally ripped the "bonus" stuff to a separate folder and put them in "performed order".

I put the 2 'Spaces" next to one another. I edited the little gap out. I thought about merging the two and making 1 track out of it,,,,,, still may. What can you say,,,, it is what it is.

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Number 35 has landed in Indy! Sorry to hear others are having issues. Keep the faith. I got #31 four months late and it was the lowest production number I've gotten so far in the collection.

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Yow! 10275 has arrived! The one day I didn't check status on USPS, and there it was in my mail box. Cool filler too. Can't wait to listen.

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