Dave’s Picks Volume 35: Philadelphia Civic Center, Philadelphia, PA 4/20/84

Back to product page

Post reply Log in to post comments

July 16, 2020 - 9:34am

1,829 replies

clayv

Joined:
March 14, 2018

Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Comments

sort by

Recent

Recent Oldest A to Z Z to A

Reset

August 18, 2020 - 4:23pm

#1081

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

Now and again these things just got to be...

said:

"What about Gainesville?"

That would be a good daves36
August 18, 2020 - 3:21pm

#1082

Dan in DE

Joined:
July 30, 2017

Dave's Picks 35

I have to say that 3rd disc was trancendal. Driving to work this morning into a very thick cloud bank, and that Morning Dew came on. It seemed so relevant at the time almost made me late for work. The double Chuck Berry and the China Cat wasn't shabby either.
August 18, 2020 - 2:57pm

#1083

cub

Joined:
March 20, 2008

Dolby B, C or off with Sony D-6

I first started recording shows with a simple setup. Nakamichi 300 shotgun's and a Sony D-6 cassette. I was taught that we should record with Dolby B switched ON and play-back with it switched OFF. I made many metal masters this way and today I play them back on a home Denon cassette deck or the original Sony. They sound fine with little or no hiss. I found that using Dolby C was too much. This is what parts of disc 1 sound like to me.
August 18, 2020 - 12:55pm

#1084

billy the kid

Joined:
December 3, 2019

Grateful Dead 1972. It Hurts Me Too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BBCGLBYlbSo. I think the Dead were at their peak in 1972 when Pig Pen was still in the band. 1970 or 1972, it's hard to say. When it comes to slide playing , Garcia is my favorite. I'm. waiting for some beer to arrive, I ordered some online from the Humble Sea Brewery in Santa Cruz , Calif, they are supposed to make some great beer. I can't wait to try it.
August 18, 2020 - 12:53pm

#1085

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Why they do it...

I think it’s to ensure they get a fixed, definitive number of sales for the series. Currently at 22K, which seems to be proper as the last 2 didn’t sell out immediately, which helps those that want to go ala carte.
But perhaps the real problems is the limited edition factor. They use FOMO to cause a panic, both with the limited addition and the bonus disc. Sure the (supposedly guaranteed copy), the bonus disc and reduced shipping are the carrot to go subscription, but I think the Road Trip and Download series were a disappointment to them. I think their worried that if they only go ala carte, sales could occasionally be so low they’d loose money...or they probably wouldn’t take chances on some shows and only go with the usual.
I’m sure that would make many happy, but I bet there’d be enough folks turned away by a limited distribution model that the overall bottom line would suffer too much.
As far as the “B” shows, I think their trying to cover as much ground as possible to shut those of us up who’ve complained about the lack of variety, though it does make it easier for them to control the flow of “A” shows by doling them out slower using these other shows. I think Jim has a theory about that with bigger box sets too: throw a show or 2 in the mix that might not be overwhelming on its own etc...
Remember, their trying to make as many people happy as possible, never an easy task: sure some folks only dig say 60s early seventies for example, but what about folks who only like later eras? I think it’s a mix of what market trends are strongest, while trying to occasionally cast a wider net, dependent on what tapes are usable, and of course implementing as many of the returned ABCD stuff as they can to recoup the costs. I think there is a “taper” bias that Dave suffers from too that probably plays into it, but as he’s alluded too, I don’t think it’s just him making the final decisions. I’m guessing he’s more of an R&D guy?

Personally, I think that for the lousy Hundo or whatever the sub costs, it’s not that big a deal, and if you don’t like a pick you can easily pass it on or sell it. To me, even 2 killers shows and bonus, with1 or 2 “lesser” (personally I think they all have something to offer but I know that’s not necessarily the majority here) is still a pretty good deal comparatively.

I can understand folks across the pond being turned off by not only the extra tax BS, but more importantly the not knowing how much it’ll be as there seems to be less consistency with that, and shipping in general! I think the chaos, stress, and not knowing are the hardest part. This is supposed to be fun, not some stress fest about if, when, and how something not only you really dig, but paid for, is even going to show up, and if/when it does some government wanker holds it for ransom! Things have definitely changed for the worst the last few years BEFORE the vid, or Agent Orange etc...that’s just made it worse....
So what to do about it?

I still say they should eliminate the limited additions, and go pre-sale. That way they can run however much production an individual show requires, plus a few more for latecomers. People who want the show can get it, those that don’t can pass, and the corporation never should lose money (they just might not always make as much profit?)

So that, plus give us other shipping options, and figure out how to fix the European tax BS!
Just a thought....surely I’m wrong.
August 18, 2020 - 11:49am

#1086

Colin Gould

Joined:
September 15, 2009

Subscription

They have me as long as they keep doing it and I keep breathing. In my more lucid moments I think that the GD were a bar band they got lucky, but when I listen to the music there are a few minutes in every release that are transcendent which make the listening worthwhile so I’ll keep buying.
August 18, 2020 - 11:43am

#1087

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

I concur Daverock

Never really liked the subscription thing either, why don't the powers that be tell us up front what's next and let us make an informed decision as to what we want when it comes to shows? I think the whole bonus disc thing is just a way to get folks to buy the subscription, and the limited edition thing too. So you get #3 and #4 without knowing what they will be and they can pass off shows that are not really up to par as far as a stand alone release. So for your 100 bucks you get two shows and a bonus disc that you know are good shows, then the last two can be hit or miss. Makes me think they have more par or subpar shows than top notch shows to release. Sound wise more likely than performance wise, I've always said most any dead show is better than whats on the airwaves.
August 18, 2020 - 11:33am

#1088

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

Right on Mr. Freak

couldn't have said it better and you nailed what the Grateful Dead are all about. I also think that at a particular time in space that certain version on that particular day is what triggers a synapse in your brain and you akin it to euphoria? You love that feeling and you want it again and again, so that particular version on that day is the "one" to you.
I can also relate to the times I was dosed and certain shows would play and they would stay with me and the relistening of those certain songs in that order sometimes would allow me to slip back to that moment when the light was turned on and the love for that version of that tune was implanted.
I don't know but I've been told....
4-7-91 GD live in Orlando
4-8-91 see above
4-9-91 what a great run this show was an add on after the first two sold out in 20 mins. back in the day when you waited in line to get your tickets, camped out overnite at the ticket vendor to get first in lineies. those were the days.
August 18, 2020 - 11:33am

#1089

Colin Gould

Joined:
September 15, 2009

JIMINMD

Yes, mine arrived at c. 11:30am on 18th August in NW England between Liverpool and Manchester. GMT is 5 hours ahead of EST at the moment so about 6:30am your time. I’ll let it sit for a couple of days before playing it.
August 18, 2020 - 11:22am

#1090

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Why?

Its presumably a money making ploy.. but I wonder why they can't release specific shows, individually and advertised before hand, so we know what we are being offered. Then we wouldn't be paying for ones we don't want. I get the impression, reading the posts on here, that most people would buy most releases. If they wouldn't, why manipulate them into buying what they don't want through this subscription system, with only two shows announced at the time its necessary to subscribe? I've done it since day one...but its getting a bit worn-especially with the hidden charges already alluded to.

John Perry Barlow

John Perry Barlow

Forums

Dead Store Products

Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Dennis

Dennis, you are an over achiever!

8/6/71

Simonrob and Gratefulhan - thanks for reminding me about The Road Trips with a portion of this show on. I had forgotten about that. I notice it also has 7/31/71 attached-another great show from that time.

Gratefulhan - I know what you mean about the audience tape of this show. I can still remember the first time I heard the tape, some 27 years ago in a mates flat, as he was dubbing it for me. Maybe the style and sound the band had at that time leant itself to audience recordings - a bit rough and ready with plenty of country/blues/rock and roll thrown in.
I have just re-listened to the FM recording of 7/2/71. You can hear the audience clapping and shouting out between songs. In fact at one point, you can hear someone shout out "Get on with it!" as they tune up between numbers. Obviously not up to speed on Deadhead etiquette !

Number 15,014

Mine has arrived......Oro, incoming..... check your email.

maybe someone can shed some light on the odd track numbering on the back....on Disc 3 the 04/20 songs are listed as tracks 1-6, then the 4/19 songs are listed as tracks 5-8?

Yippee/ tracks/anger management

# 15576 arrived today. I think I know why the track numbers are off. Dave was particularly spaced that day lol. Vguy my show took the same routing who knows. And it wouldn't be me if I didn't do this. The people who work for the Dead , Rhino, UPS and USPS are not evil. They produce something great we all like and work hard at it. Stop whinning are you completely unaware of what's going on right now. With short staffing inexperienced employees and any number of reasons there will be issues. Thank you Dave , Pinkus, Mary Norman USPS, UPS and people I forgot. You make my life more enjoyable

It has a Cumberland

And the Cumberland is playing now.

Landings

Pleased to hear this is landing in hands and getting some spins. Hopeful and assuming it sounds great; I've always loved this show and am also looking forward to the added nuggets - which I've never heard before. Separate playlists solve any problems easily there...but this one will get plenty of play in the old CD player, regardless.
At 11.

Sixtus

#10824 has landed

Spicy combo

Grateful Dead sunset jam session

tramjam

35! Hard to be lower.

Anyone get any number lower ever?

Deadvikes & Over Achieving

I would quote you to my wife, but she'd only have a despairing remark about you and the people I hang with......

What I listen to when I try to figure out what to Listen to

Playing in the Band, Dave's Picks Berkeley (maybe around 25 or 26?). Great tasting and never lets me down.

Dennis, you did me proud when you talked about merging songs together and splitting bonus tracks up into their own folders...

#8009/22000 Has Arrived

In sunny Southern California.

Whining

1. We PAID for a subscription, all info is the same as has been for many years
2. We’ve followed the PO instructions regarding our unusual circumstances. Same as every other year
3. The PO completely messed up so now we may not get what we PAID for.

So that and lamenting the fact that you can’t have sensible shipping options anymore is whining?
Fuck this place I’m over getting bummed out every time I post something.

I feel for ya Oro

And I feel for all our friends across the pond too. I have faith in dead.net also.. I think they will make good somehow. If not.. you have friends in low places than can help keep you whole.

I agree with Snafu too.. these are mostly great folks doing their jobs, but the world is a little fucked up right now.

It would give me great joy to see the folks overseas get their CDs about the same time as us (or reasonably close) and have some normalcy.. We all love the music and getting that crisp, fresh, Full Norman monster in the mail makes for a happy day. No reason to hog up all the fun here in the states.

No #35 for me today.. I haven't even checked my tracking.. but come to think of it, I am not sure I have even gotten a tracking number yet. That's what I get for living in the stix..

Have a great week all.. How's that Jerry Tune go, "In this world of trouble.. we've got to Love One Another" Fit's like the perfect fit, right... Now.

Tracking

Friday it was literally down the street. Now tracking says it's been lost somewhere in the hand off between UPS and the USPS and delivery date is unknown. I am going to vote in person this election even if I have to wait in line for 12 hours in a hazmat suit.

KeithFan...Question

A few months back there was a conversation about the '72 Europe recordings and Keith's presence in the mix...topic being some recordings were much better quality and more "Keith friendly" than others. Can't remember which, or why,....was it Steppin Out, Rockin/Rhein, or possibly some of the single shows that really shined?
Anyway, was hoping you might have a couple recommendations or favorite shows from the E 72 Tour with Keith up in the mix and just killin it!

Thanks in advance.....I have a young pianist in the family who requires exposure.

Re: Tracking

Might I suggest a portable plastic bubble?

https://images.app.goo.gl/k2nhx19yjuT645mF6

15 mile hike today / Walking Blues

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T9dkse6R3Tg. I walked up to Black Mtn. today, 2600 ft elevation. I didn't see any mtn lions or rattle snakes, but we did see a bald eagle. Paul Butterfield and Mike Bloomfield, boy they were musical giants, What a killer of a band.

2,600 feet in vertical

..and back down again? So 71/2 miles each way?

Walking Blues it is. That's a big day... Well done.

Edit: Extra points if you did it in a personal plastic bubble.

Re: Re: Tracking

Shopping for one on amazon as we speak. Thanks.

It's here!

Before even listening, I dumped discs 2 and 3 into an audio editing program and burned Scarlet through A&A on one CDR and JBG/DJ/ChinaRider/EstP/Terrapin/Wheel/WRat/SugMag on another. There is a clean break between A&A and JBG, but that break is an inaudible .005 seconds (approx) and the two songs should be united. I prefer my layout, but I totally see why GDM went the route they did on the discs. The traditional "split set two during D/S" is much easier on the listener's nerves then is a disc break between linked songs...
Only have time for Disc One tonight. About halfway through now. Sounds very clean and clear. Listening to this Esau, I feel Jerry and Brent are very nicely balanced in the mix, but the standard Healy tape lack of Phil's bass & Bob's guitar is in full effect here. Back in 2013 I got the Charlie Miller of this show and put the Let It Grow in my iTunes. I expect that will be a pretty hot finale for my listening tonight!
Play if you got 'em, if you don't need 'em just pass them on... May those still waiting get theirs soon.

Shipping Blues

Yup....feeling pain of the Shipping Blues. Ordered 2, 1 for me, 1 for my son. One still says it is in CA (I’m in MA), the other has been stuck in a USPS facility for 2 days, and 15 minutes from house. Time to start providing other shipping options to customers if they want to pay extra for UPS Direct, or maybe even allow downloads of the shows, CDs are old tech.

DaP 35 pitch

Is the pitch correct on the discs? Was off(slow) on the samples posted here - Thank you

Still waiting for it to reach a UPS facility...

So instead, last five:

Workingman's Dead 50th Anniversary - studio album

Greg Copeland - The tango bar

Terry Allen and the Panhandle Mystery Band - Just like Moby Dick

Webb Wilder - Night without love

Don Leady - Dos rios

No shipped email for 35

I haven't even received an email saying Dave's 35 has been shipped. Went to Order Status, 33 and 34 say Shipped, nothing under 35. I don't have a problem waiting if I knew it was actually in the system somewhere. But I'm not sure it is. Been a subscriber since the beginning, at same address. Hoping for some info soon.

No Shipping Notice For Me Either

Gonna Get There.. I Don't Know.

I am not worried though, I've been waiting 36 years.. In a way dead shows are like fine wine, just getting better with age.

No shipping notice, no Dave's 35 here in Baltimore...

...though my friend down the street got his yesterday. We are one zip code away, so maybe that has something to do with it. Once or twice, I received the pick before getting a shipping notification email, but that is usually not the case... here's hoping the mailman has something for me today.

My buddy who got his says that it sounds great - and he's a BIG fan of 84, (and, he was at the show that makes up the filler for this set.)

Peace

Aha....

Schrödinger's Pick is what it is....

Oroborous

send me a PM and I'll see what the Doc can do.

Shipping Notice

Looks like several folks have not received shipping notices and no posting of "shipping" on their order status. I called the help desk this morning and was told that there are delays in getting DaP 35 out the door due to the pandemic. She reassured me that these will be shipped soon as hopefully later this week / early next week.

As I wait GarciaLive 14 (and it's bonus disc), and the WMD Port Chester show are keeping me busy. Love the Port Chester show. Nice vibe to the show and found I didn't miss the lack of any monster jam being played at the show. Really digging it!

Fingers crossed for all of us still awaiting 35.

Thanks Mary!

PM sent

#9525

First disk smokes.

Late deliveries

I expected DaP35 to take a while to reach the U.K. but I still haven’t received Workingman’s Dead. Good job I ordered an extra copy from Amazon.

Deuce Shipping Blues

Your suggestion is spot on. Download option really is an idea whose time has come.

#3299

usually I'm on slow end for receiving DaP but DaP35 was in the PO in rural desert southwest by Monday, finally able to pick it up yesterday evening. hope to dig in later today. hope the shipping blues are short lived for everybody.

Rolling stone list on their site today

Garcia's best songs

Discusses 50 tunes

Worth a look

In keeping with Rolling Stone tradition, they list "keep your day job" as #1. (Just kidding......)

Delivered!

35 was delivered in my mailbox yesterday, I have to say I'm really digging this. Although Phil sounds a little low in the mix, anyone else experiencing this? Nice touch by the Dead with the colors of the CDs, sure looks like the colors of Philly sports to me (Red Phillies, Blue Sixers, Green Eagles). Hope everyone with shipping problems receives the CD soon. Peace.

Vent

So, tracking my package...it arrived in Illinois and sat for 3 days. Was pleasantly surprised that it came from there straight to my local post office, which incidentally is located 1 mile from my residence. There it has sat since Monday. Today is Thursday. Mail carrier just came by. No package.

This also happened to be the week that mail in voting for the primaries. Upon reading some earlier posts I have no doubt that the holdup of my package is indeed related to mail in voting and the ordered slowdown.

Normally I would have got this by Saturday or Monday. Even the extra for priority shipping has led to even longer wait time for delivery. I don't blame Dead.net or my mail carrier. This comes from whoever is running the postal service into the ground. Total b.s.. It is politically motivated without a doubt.

Agreed

...the first disc here smokes. Arrival of #9272 in metro Boston....there is hope!

Looking forward to the Deep Dive.

Sixtus

P.S. BTW... All should read this Jerry Interview: https://relix.com/articles/detail/jerry-garcia-portrait-of-an-artist-as…

Progress...

A week after receiving the Dead Net Store shipping notice, UPS have finally received the package in Fontana, CA. This means I now have an alternative tracking number which is recognized by USPS but of course it is not yet in the USPS system. No estimate of a delivery date yet. The package continues to move slowly, but at least it is moving. I don't consider this a problem, just a consequence of all the weirdness that is beginning to determine everything. When the going gets weird, the weird go dark.

Shipping notice

I also called customer service yesterday looking for the Dave's Pick 35. They told me end of the week or early next week I should receive it. I look forward to this release being a fan of this time period and being born and raised in the city of Brotherly Love

Postal Service blues

I am in the same boat as Spacebrother, also a Michigan resident (if I remember that correctly Spacebro). It arrived at my small city post office Monday and there it has sat. I am not at all worried about it and I usually don't check on my packages-- "when it arrives, it arrives." I still feel that way, but checked just 'cause.

I know folks don't want to talk politics on here, but this is all related to the new Postal Service head, who is trying to 'turn around' the organization's finances in the middle of a pandemic and with record numbers of folks voting by mail. In the early days of the pandemic, mailings took an extra day, maybe two at the most. We are finding everything is slowed down by at least several days now (many family birthdays in the past month). Just sharing my unscientific observances that point to meddling in the postal services practices-- it was well documented by major news organizations last week.

New practices include leaving mail to sit until the next day if it hasn't been sorted where postal employees were vigilant about getting mail out the door asap before. This is leading to backlogs at post offices with days of mail sitting. Consider this ending with many expletives directed at the people in charge of this shit show and politicizing the postal service.

Meanwhile, Amazon packages arrive the next day. I saw folks on the Workingman's Dead board complaining about the holdup. I ordered it from Amazon one day and got it the next-- for less and with free shipping. Just sayin'. And to add something Dead-music related-- love that 2/21/71 show with WD. Give me any show with Easy Wind and I am a happy camper.

Estimated-eyes

Just curious how your WMD was shipped: UPS, FedEx, or smart post?
I’m guessing UPS or fedex direct to your house?

KeithFan...Question

5/24/72 comes to mind but only because of Keith's "barrel-house boogie-woogie" riffs in Mexicali Blues. Very slick and fun. But if you want to hear Keith WAY in front of the mix, I'd start with his first few shows with the Dead in the fall of 1971.

BIG THANK YOU

To JeffSmith for posting the link to album art! I'll find out soon enough if you have the new JerryLive there, too. Keep it safe all and have a happy rest of summer!

#21,095 has landed!

Sitting here in limbo...

Well..this sucks. Tracking shows this was delivered to my local post office on Monday the 4th.. I went down there to see what the hub bub was and they claim they have no idea where it is..lol..First time that ever happened..any suggestions anyone? Or am I shit out of luck??

Declaration

I love The Wheel.
Always comforting and gratifying to see it appear in an offering.

AND this being the First Official Esau (I think?); man it is pretty funky and cool. Very fun.

Carry On.
Sixtus

*RE/ Saves Picks #35 / Loving this 1984 Performances

...I’m a big fan of Brent , and I gotta day he’s absolutely amazing during these performances from in the spring of 1984!
Also , to all you artwork fans & critics for all the Dead’s Officially release, let’s add this Releases Cover ; contains References to mind altering substances ... if (one) you look closely enoughat the artwork used for ‘Dave’s Picks ‘ #35 ,the skeletons right boxing glove is holding a burning marijuana Cigarette , I wonder what strain is being smoked?! Lmao! 😂😉😗💨
Have a grateful evening everyone, I’m on my fourth listening pleasure With Dave’s Picks #35. AND loving every single grateful moment I’m experiencing over & over again ,so cool peacefull sounding recording by Healy ! I’m more than pleased with the audio quality, just how I like it sometimes. Nice clean chasing the muse around a theater or any stage of that matter! . I’ll post my final review in the up coming days! . Have a grateful evening my brothers and sisters, peace be with and until next time, as Dave says, play it loud!!! Lol love it. Have a grateful rest of your days this evening. 🙏❤️😎