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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #5451
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    Half a Cow, Add Some Dekalb and it's Corn Fed

    I still have half the Cow Palace left.. the first half was spectacular. Powerful.

    If we add in dekalb, our cow will be Corn Fed. I am still waiting for this show to grab me. Perhaps today is the day.

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    Today's Pick

    So 10/29/77, Dave's 33, for today. Good call Conekid.

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    Guess what day it is

    10-29

    As in
    10-29-77 anniversary

    Just saying
    Because I just realized

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    '74 Cow Palace....

    ....yay!! I love this show too. Getting late, but I think I can get the first set in.
    Onward!
    edit. My timestamp says 10.28.20.20.10.10.

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    3/23/74 Cow Palace

    A pardon thousand folks!

    Love this show, or the partial release of Dick's #24. It is 74, Wall of Sound and yes, it is spectacular! Want the full show? Of course, but this two cd release still hits it.

    Sound quality, A+. Bob t, yes, the first live Scarlet and Cassidy, really good.

    Love the Playing reset and it is a peakers delight. And then you get the sandwich 🥪. So good.

    Stay well out there. Looks like #36 has landed for some lucky folks. Looking forward to hearing the feedback while the rest of us wait.

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    I stopped at the beer store and got Pompeii and Intergalactic Warrior.
    Both were warm so they’re on ice now and I’m having a Pseudo Sue.
    It’s all selling pretty quickly.

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    Another sneaky Pete. Yes there’s a couple items on the big list, but overall you have to dig a bit to find some of the gold. More great variety with over a half dozen 2 of only 2s, a couple 2 of 3, including a biggie, 3 3 of only 3s, a nice once only, and of course the big Attics 3rd of only 3 on both the tour and since 10/28/72!
    So the big second of only 2 ever California Earthquake outta the gate and another beauty it is! Perhaps not quite the emotional impact of Philly, but that might just be bias? Next another great 89 Stranger, though not as good as “thee” Stranger from Hampton which I believed was released on that great sounding live Without a Net album...but this ones fine and only the 3rd of three on the tour. Interestingly, the other 2 times they broke out DS....would it continue?
    Next a phenomenal Loser, another 2 of 2, until the hiccup during reentry, but it’s slight, and both the crowd abd I don’t care ; ) Weir with the dialed in Walkin’ Blues that energy wise is a bit of a let down in the overall flow, though a decent enough version. After a little futzin around, JG comes back with an upbeat nicely odd mid set Bertha! (2 of 2)
    Good Masterpiece, Jed and Let It Grow to end another fine first set. Have really enjoyed many of the first sets this tour so far. First sets during some periods were unfortunately sorta throw away, but thankfully not here!

    Touch O for decent upbeat opener, followed by second of two tour Looks Like Rain and a nice status quo version here. Then another rumble strip that was more noticeable the first time: We Can Run in a slightly unusual mid second set slot, and again not Brents best version, but Phil and Jerry really step up the backups and keep it moving and decent. Though there are occasional songs on this tour let might not be perfect, being multi-track and given the full Normin, I bet they’d clean up nicely! Like I’ve always wondered but never did the leg work with the Hey Jude from Hamilton. Remember it being emotional but Brent sounded ruff at the show, but the box release sounds fine? Meaning I should compare the box to the tape etc? There are certainly limits, but they can do wonders now: Winterland 74 different mixes, and many Donna tracks on multitrack versus only stereo come to mind. But I digress.
    Now we come to one of those under the radar fun facts with JG giving 2 DBL Dbls in the second set. The first here with a sweet Crazy Fingers, 2 of only 2, then nice Terrapin. (3/3) which also lends itself to the psychedelic slide into the weird zone. We come out the other side with I Will Take You Home in its usual help the high people back to the ground spot, and it’s decent but perhaps still not full potential comparatively? No worries as they break out a spirited GDTRFB, this being it’s only tour appearance and the crowd appreciates it. But JGs not done yet with the second DBl/Dbl and second of only three Standing On the Moons and like other versions, he really seems to be confirming his decision to change his life and “rather be here with you”! and the crowd sends the love and appreciation right back at em.
    So again, those with dreams of glory are starting to squelch them, though I’m guessing these feelings were underlying at this point given the great performance they were experiencing. Lovelight puts the exclamation point on it all though, with only the encore left....and alas, they finally bring the bling with another beautiful offering of only the third of three Attics on not just the tour, but since 10/28/72! And like most of the big moments on this tour, they deliver, something in the past not always the case lol.
    Yes this show has a couple of on paper big ticket items combing to make the bread for the sandwich, but after digging in to the middle ingredients, the rest is just as tasty! Another fine show! I would say both of these would work nicely as part of our fantasy league tour box, but suppose one could get the ax if truly necessary? I just wouldn’t want to be the one picking...it might be easy to go for the second show on just a glance, but after listening I don’t think it’s that cut and dry? So why not give us both, if only because of the multitrack auditory ecstasy which would surely cover and make up for the occasional foibles...

    To include both would give us 6 shows in our box so far. Though I’ve never heard 10/25 yet, I’m gonna throw it in there, yuck, yuck, simply based on vguy and other 👍. That would give us 7 shows, with my proposal of 9/29/89 for the first lucky “x” thousand purchasers, as a carrot generating bonus show, or at least the second set...

    Thus we would have the following interesting, different, multitrack sudo psychedelic glory of this fine and deserving 89 fall tour:

    10/8&9/89 Hampton box
    10/14/89 This Box
    10/16/89 Nightfall of Diamonds release
    10/18, 19,20/89 This box
    10/22&23/ this box
    10/25/89 this box
    10/26/89 3o trips box
    with 9/29/89 bonus for this box....proper!

    Ok, last one I’ve never heard going on.....now!
    10/25/89, got my sunscreen on in the toasty living room afternoon sun while it’s a whoppin’ 24 degree heat wave outside! See ya on the other side
    Onward!

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    Scores! Didn’t end up having to go out in the cold yesterday and had no pressing honey dos, so went hard on 10/22&23/89, in fact had such an enjoyable day, including basking in the toasty afternoon sun while only 24 outside, that I broke regulation and had a couple weekday beers! But I’m gettin ahead of myself, so on to Charlotte.

    Have never heard these shows so was curious to hear them. Charlotte seems to be one of these off the grid venues, but repeatedly I’ve been pleased and surprised if and when I make the electronic journey there. And these were no different.

    The sneaky chameleon tour continues. This show is a prime example of this both on paper, and after first time listen: it might not seem like much at first, but upon further review it shows its true colors!
    Both times I listened to this I loved the first set. Like much of this tour they come out energetic but not manic, with spirited versions of Touch O and Minglewood, 2nd of 2 on the tour. Followed by a decent Half Step, the 2nd of only 2 on the tour, with a good Queen Jane, another 2 of only 2, Ramble On Rose 2/2, and an always fun BIODTL, the only version this tour, and only the 2nd of 3 for the year, with the previous being on 2/12/89! Another good spacey/midi Birdsong (for good or for ill depending on how your pleasure tends?) A spirited JBG closes the set out, only the 5th of 6 for the year and a nice first set closing change up.
    So we see again that below the surface lies more. This has been a reoccurrence on this tour totally facilitated by multiple listens of the tour in order. Very enlightening.

    Set 2 perhaps even more so...after first time I was nonplussed. It had moments, and it had moments, the kind that might negate box use? Blow Away being the main culprit, or is it? It is a bit raggedy, and like other Brent tunes especially on this tour it has a energy? not dark but...and the drum triggered whips are almost disconcerting lol..
    Brent even slipped some comments in that lead me to think maybe this was when his personal shit was going on? It’s a subtle thing, and I love Brent, but he seems a bit off this tour after his fine performances on both 89 summer tour and spring 90?
    Here again we have the slightly truncated version of Blow Away, but he does rant a little. The crowd loves it and on second run I had a better take...still feels like weird energy, tad sloppy, another subtle, occasional (sort of west coast like) underlying vibe on this tour.
    As others have mentioned, this tour sometimes evokes a strange character or vibe. More chameleon: mostly tight, but still loose and because of the exploratory factor, occasional misses compared to spring 90 perfection. Relaxed and sometimes mellow, but with a dark edge, the Dark Star whirls on it’s axis...the psychedelic gods woke from their crips via electronic wavelengths of midi summonses...
    Second of two Samsons, was decent, with only the fourth Help-Slips-Franks since reintroduction, and a rare pre drums slot, that works well with integration into the weirdness zone. Though I thoroughly enjoyed this outing, I think I’d give the nod to earlier versions though. A status quo Miracle in it’s usual wake em up after driftin’ and dreaming through another faux psychedelic star ride, but alas, no big ticket items this go round. JG does give us a sweet Stella though, and the 1-2 Stones/NFA knockout to send em home eager for tomorrow’s show! Hold on, still have an encore folks and they've sometimes been huge this tour, but “only” a nice Black Muddy River tonight, which only adds to the vibe for 10/23. Overall a fine show, if sneaky and chameleon like on the surface...great song variety/sequencing this tour, with many 2 of only 2s this show. ok, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings!

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    That was me ICECRMCNKD......and Yes, It is good stuff!!! The Pseudo Sue is my favorite. King Sue is also good, but $3.00 more at $14.99 in my local liquor store, so i usually stick with the Pseudo.

    Another one that we have starting getting is GFJ IPA from Sun King Brewery in Indianapolis. It's also very tasty!!!

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    74 it is.

    You don't have to twist my arm.

    This is one of the picks that has gained respect with each listen.

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I'm still shaking my head over this 8/14/71 tape, Holy S#!@

Phil & Jerry are just locking in throughout, esp during The Other One & NFA > GDTRFB.

Even the tried and true #s get a work out.

Alright time for the next night.

And young Strider journeys West and was there for both, lucky duck.

Quack! Quack!

Happy Birthday Bob T, since you listened to 8/15 yesterday, my Bday gift to you is 8/14, Enjoy! ;)

BobT: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!

Shakedown Stream 6/19/20: does anyone recall what show that was, and was 4/22/20 (6/11/93) the first one?
Can’t seem to source it...I bet GOGD knows!

BOX IDEA: Dane County; Kinda like the Giants box...
2/15/73 (Dark Star, HC Sunshine)
10/25/73 (Dark Star, Mind Left Body, HC Sunshine)
2/3/78 (DPs 18)
2/4/79 (Probably no tapes)
12/3/81(Good set list)
6/24/83 (H,S,F, Dew, good set list)

Ok, so possibly 4 shows...I’m not familiar with the performances of the last 3, but it looks good on paper....

....Big RXR opener. Good sign.
Oroborous with the win. If they don't name it the Grate Dane box with a derpy dog on the cover, opportunity lost.
Edit. 8.14 & 8.15 both have Cumberlands!! Sold!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 08/15/2020 - 15:39

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Started 4/10 with Truckin’ Up to Buffalo, followed by GD Movie and 6/11/93 on 4/24/20. 6/19/20 was an off week, they did 10 in a row and took that week off.

Nice box idea, I’d like to see 2/9 & 2/15/73 released for sure. Honestly they should release this 8/14/71 show, it’s hot! 8/15 is good too… but I think I like the 14th better. Might have to listen again ;)

Aw Reet!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 08/15/2020 - 16:12

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Ha!! the Grate Dane box!! sweet!

Always liked the German Shepherd with headphones from Hamburg '72 in the steamer trunk.

2/15 Set II is one of my first tapes, very much loved.

8/14 & 15 need to be released. Wowza.

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 08/15/2020 - 16:26

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Heading there right now... Can't hear Dane County without thinking of this show... Two Dark Stars in 8 months in Madison Wisconsin in 1973.......... bob t

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 08/15/2020 - 16:27

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Speaking of 2-9,15-73, I did my every 2-3 month visit to bt.etree to check for new/upgraded material (Mr. Charlie has been productive during quarantine) and I believe that those were included in the shows I got.
Also, Alaska ‘80 all three shows as one torrent was there.
Vguy, Sam Boyd 92 was also there.

Didn’t read the fine print on each show to see what has been fixed, or if it is a new source, etc. Will do that later, just grabbing the data now.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 08/15/2020 - 17:24

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Yes - there was a solid Charlie Miller upgrade to 2-15 in last few months - i was checking it out on the Archive in first day or so after it was uploaded. i think this is the same on relisten. don't do etree but maybe its time for a select few.

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1973/02/15?source=223918

1st 2 tracks on this source are from the soundcheck i think.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 08/15/2020 - 17:26

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GOGD: tanks! I knew you’d know. Forgot they went back that far, and that 6/19 was off......senior moment!

VGUY: The Grate Dane! Perfect, there ya go Rhino, marketing, art, and music....
easy with that fire though, 20K plus rager (Grizzly Creek Fire) parts only about 15 miles upwind as the crow flies....not gonna see the sun from my back door anytime soon! This year just keeps kicking my ass! Pray for rain por favor!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 08/15/2020 - 19:15

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Holy Crap.. Fire on the Mountain > Looks Like Rain? Just checked this out, looks horrific. Be safe man...

New Years will have special meaning this year.

going through discs and realized it had been years since I'd listened to the Dave's 2012 Bonus Disc from Cap Centre 7/29/74. so that's where I'm at right now. maybe this got covered earlier as a pick and i missed it.

Oro - good luck over there. personally familiar with how freaking dry the SW Colorado mountains are right now. no mushrooms anywhere. scary in terms of fire potential. hoping for some containment on Grizzly and Pine Gulch. lots of smoke drifting in here - probably from California fires but maybe northern Arizona or west of state.

I did this a couple weeks ago.. classic.

What's in store for tomorrow? Still light on work, starting a carpentry project so good long jams are in order..

How about 5/14/74, Dave's Picks #9?

Lost my Mom late last week, it has been a tough time and the virus doesn't help in all aspects.

Be well folks.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/17/2020 - 06:09

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No complaints from me.. Right on time.. heading outside right... now.

Edit: Shit, in my haste to get outside and get some painting done I missed the second half of your post deadvikes. So sorry to hear.. Hang in there man...

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 08/17/2020 - 07:28

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Sorry to hear about your mom... bob t

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 08/17/2020 - 07:35

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Sorry for your loss! May The four winds blow her safely home...

5/14/74 sounds perfect!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 08/17/2020 - 08:30

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In sorry for your loss , it's a very sad thing to lose one of your parents.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 08/17/2020 - 14:09

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I was so happy when Dave release this one... My in tape trading days i had a very crappy board, but hey it had a Dark Star on it from 74, and it was the only Montana show they did... What i have grown to really like about this show is the NFA>Going Down the Road... give it a listen..... not the longest versions in the world but they smoke!!!! Even get a whew from Weir after the jam in GDTRFB..... alas all is ruined after when Bob get's hit with a homecoming cup, "Thanks a whole hell of a lot," right before the encore..... Good call for today.... bob t

We were bound to have a repeat eventually and perfect pick for repeated listening.

DeadVikes no words do justice, I’m sorry for your loss.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/17/2020 - 18:54

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Thanks for the kind words Gents, I appreciate it!

GOGD, did we do this one already, shoot, sorry for the repeat, I guess I needed a good Dark Star. And I am with Bob t, the NFA/GDTRFB combo is sweet and One More Saturday Night to finish.
Sound quality is A+. How great was the Wall of Sound.

Are we five months into this BS pandemic already? My God, this has to end soon.

Thanks again guys and stay well.

Ha.. Well, I missed the first one so it was a good repeat for me. I fit in the whole show and kept right on going with 6/16/74 simply because it was the next show in my device.

...and yes, this darkness got to give.

So Dicks Picks 20 tomorrow? Check out the jam in Supplication.. wowow stuff.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/18/2020 - 07:12

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I am thinking we did Dick's 20 in the Spring, but not 100% sure. GOGD has been tracking it. Let us know.

At any rate, I will check it out. Love 76!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/18/2020 - 09:09

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We might have.. if so, lets try and think up a new one. Where is our official judge, GOGD? Without him in the loop, we are a lawless, woolly bunch.

Edit: Well.. my 4/20/84 just arrived, so that's going to be my outside listen today. Reading the liner notes now. Saw a lot of shows in 84.. I remember how much different Jerry looked than he did in '83, and that habit of staring into the carpet and just shredding it was already well established. Vocals were a problem the whole year. This was about the time we started realizing something was afoot.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/18/2020 - 10:10

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Jim,

Repeat or not, I am working my way through it. Love this release. I think this is the first 76 release, correct?

A 2001 release and the sound quality is really good. Performances are super September 76 Dead.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 08/18/2020 - 10:44

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Hi-Ya!

Sorry, Dead.net homepage posts on my Mac aren’t updating in real time, even with refresh, weird.
I guess I have to dig a little deeper. Anybody else get that?

Yep, 5 months of this shiz, started 4/6/20 from what I can tell.
Alright, in regards to shows we did DiP V20 on 4/20/20, and DaP V9 on 5/14/20.
Now I'm just saying that so we know, no biggie doing repeats, in fact, these are all repeats and I do them all all the time ;)

I went down the 1971 rabbit hole after 8/14 & 8/15 and am trying to work my way out, but Fillmore April ’71 is sounding really good and taking me back to my earliest days of hearing the Dead.
(Which in comparison to now, seem like heaven!)

Did 4/29 yesterday, one of my earliest tapes, and am enjoying 4/28 today, So you know where to find me :)

Music Is Good Medicine
Be Well All

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 08/18/2020 - 13:54

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Just finishing Set I from 11/9/73.... gonna listen to this box the next few days. There are 8 shows from the October 73 and only 1 has been released.10/25 and 10/30 both have Dark Stars on them..... I'm a big fan of Evanston Show especially second set... I like the September tour, but I know a lot of people don't like the Fiero and Ellis shows... nothing has been released from September... There are 10 shows from this month no releases. Got a feeling Dave is saving 9/12/73 William and Mary show for the 50th anniversary of Wake of the Flood.... Thank you for listening to my ramble... bob t

Realized this yesterday as I scrolled through my music player looking for 5-14-74

2-24-74 DaP13
3-23-74% DP24
5-12-74 (not yet released)
5-14-74 DaP9
5-17-74 PNW
5-19-74 PNW
5-21-74 PNW
5-25-74 (not yet released)
6-8-74 (not yet released)
6-16-74% RTv2n3
6-18-74% RTv2n3
6-20-74 (not yet released)
6-22-74% DaP34
6-23-74 DaP34
6-26-74 s2 DP12
6-28-74 s2 DP12
6-30-74 (not yet released)
7-19-74 DaP17
7-21,25,27-74 (not yet released)
7-29-74% DaP2 bonus disc
7-31-74 DaP2
8-4,5,6-74% DP31
9-9,10-74 DP7
9-11,14-74 (not yet released)
9-18-74 30Trips
9-20,21-74 (not yet released)
10-16,17,18,19,20-74% GD Movie soundtrack

I like ‘74!
Let’s fill in the gaps and work towards the whole year being released.

Condolences DV.

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Submitted by Gollum on Tue, 08/18/2020 - 20:09

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Excellent pick. Latvala strikes again!

I think repeat picks should be allowed, or even encouraged. That way, we'll never run out.

I've got the same delayed updating problem, GOGD and have had it a few weeks now.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 10:03

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Yes, I am with you on releasing more 74 Conekid. Don't forget 2/22 and 2/23.

Since several of these shows are partial releases, boy, I would not mind if they went back and gave us the complete show. Not sure that would ever happen, but I would buy it.

I pulled out 7/5/78 this morning. It has been a long time since I listened to this show. I know we did the 7/1/78 show on the Anniversary date. I don't listen to this box that much anymore and I should, great shows and super sound quality.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 16:01

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10/74 Winterland Complete, audio and video.
Bring it on Dave.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 05:56

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Thanks for the link on the last show at the Greek. Thought this might make a good pick of the day so I checked out Relisten and the archive. The only option I could find was one and it was a feed from Bob Weir's guitar. And that was literally all it was just his guitar playing. I like Bob Weir and all, but listening to just his guitar for a full show is not going to do it for me.
Who has a pick for us today?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 06:04

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"Is it not written in thee sky?" :-)

Today is August 20 and I am beginning to think there will not be another box set released this year. Not really sure what Dave was referring to when he spoke about other big things needing their own space to breathe later in the year meant? I know we have AB, but that can't be it.
Also, have they ever had a box set announcement past August 1?

Are usual clue tellers are silent.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 13:03

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Nostradeadmus predicts American Beauty 50th either released on 11/1/2020 or announced that day if they are unable to pull it off because of covid.

I think we are getting one more this year.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 13:26

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Went with DP18 today. We've listened to this one before right? Anyway, ready for Englishtown any time now. Wish there was more video. Saw some of it recently first for I think the first time. Wonder how much (if any) footage there remains left. What's been out there has been seen already before, right? I'll have to check my Dead base. :-)

Happy rest of summer, all... :-) :-) :-)

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 08/20/2020 - 16:29

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Dave made that 76 Box video before the world got turned upside in, downside out.
I don’t think that there is a rule about when an announcement needs to be made.
I’m holding out for another Box, whether it’s a stand alone or part of AB-50th. There’s really no reason to announce it way in advance, just announce it when it’s available for sale and start shipping the same day.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 08/21/2020 - 16:14

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I see that Jambase posted a loose knit announcement yesterday for the final edition of Shakedown Stream to take place next Thursday August 27th. I’m surprised that the August 2020 Grateful Dead bulletin did not include a notice there of. I will say rest assured dear readers that official announcement would see the light of day maybe Monday or perhaps Tuesday at the latest. Something tells me that the pre-show with Dave and Gary has some special guest sure to make a long and lasting impression upon the impressionable and the not so easily impressed alike. So soon, very soon I expect to hear the drum roll, Rolling Thunder!!⛈⚡️⛈