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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #321
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    all I am saying, is give GD87 a chance. _two_ shows!

    giving us 87 means new explorations, perspectives, viewpoints, new space, etc. No, it ain't 12/18/73, or Europe 72, or some monster 69. But...I still love Daves 35, and will continue to subscribe until I literally join the dead, or the series ends.

    Dave
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    it turns me on

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    DHB, always love to hear your thoughts!
    Dennis, always love how you crack me up!
    Format: as others have theorized, perhaps they want to spoon out “the good stuff” (not my words) thus mixing it up and keeping enough of those “nuggets” to keep it interesting.
    Also, perhaps not enough 60s; variety, good sources etc, to do one every year, but agree we could use more.
    Obviously not everyone is always gonna be happy, but I’d love to see say alternate 60 or post Brent 90, with 2 70s, and a 80 release every year. Think that would be fair, cover most sweet spots, cover the ABCD costs etc,and yeah, sometimes ya might get one your not thrilled about. Fir that see previous post...

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    I like all the eras, they all have their charm. A great performance is a great performance whenever the time. Someone here once said if you stop at 71, then you don't get a long list of GREAT standards,,, can you imagine no Eyes!!! Early stuff,,, can you beat a great Viola? Of course not. Luckily we got Dew for a long time.

    I like the 4 times a year surprise of the picks, on the monetary front you either have the money to spend or don't. Two positives in this modern world, copies always available somewhere and it seems the bonus disc always sells for the price of the subscription on the aftermarket (for good or ill I agree). Past that thank the band members that made the music possible and allow it to be up on the archive, something every can afford :-)

    Now on this 37 front,,, my selfish pick, 1975-06-17 - Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA . No wasn't my first show, never been to Winterland, but it will the last 75 show not to be released! I want to cross 75 off the need list!! Come on Dave,,, do it for Dennie.

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    Yes.. 36 was announced with a picture of the cover art via email as follows:

    Hard to believe but we've come upon the very last release in our 2020 Dave's Picks Series. DAVE’S PICKS VOL.36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) will be up for pre-order on Thursday, October 15th at 10am PT. Set that alarm and don't hit snooze!

    DHBrewer.. would love to hear your rant.. I get the feeling it would crack me up.

    Also, for what it's worth, I quite liked the recent 83 and 84 Dave's Picks. They might not get the quite the speaker time as my other children.. but sometimes you need some high-octane workout music. Palate cleanser for the more delicate intricacies of my favorite acid jazz 74 shows. 35 must have come at just the right time as it probably has four or five partial listens and I enjoyed the hell out of them all.

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    Has this been officially announced?

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    I typed a post this morning, but cannot bring myself to post it; please PM me if for some reason you think you want to read it! :)

    The gist of it is that 26 of 40 shows from 1974 have been released, even if just partially. So have 36 of 82 from 1972 and 32 of 60 from 1977. My notes from 1984 and 1987 say that I have enjoyed the two and five shows, respectively, that have been released from those years, which were still part of the Garcia era.

    The other point from my post, made also by Oro, is that we can all keep supporting this fun trip, or we can withhold the meager monies requested of us, and then we can stop getting shows, including all the free November music and the free Tapers' Section music, and the Free GD Hour . . .

    Confession time--I could not care less about the shows from late 1969 through Keith's first show. But when those shows are released (and there have been many), I smile and feel Grateful that people who love that era are getting some kind dessert.

    Be kind, rewind.

    p.s. If Dave wants to indulge himself a bit after all these years and all this work by releasing his first show, then bless him. And we may be getting a whole new distribution model after this release, no? Dave ends the Dave's Picks series by releasing a cool show that got him on the bus? I'm willing to bet that whatever he and Rhino do will enhance my musical life.

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    That makes two Ron Francis references in this thread in the last 24 hours. :)

    Glad to see another northern team in the league and Seattle deserves a franchise. Now they just need to contract Phoenix, Nashville, Carolina, Dallas and the Panthers to get the level of talent more concentrated. One of those can move to Quebec I suppose.

    Good discussion about the releases. Oroborous said it well.

    More Maple Leafs jokes please!!

  • #328
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    Oroborous is right

    I agree with Oroborous’ sentiments on these releases. For me, I miss the days of attending concerts (and Covid aside), actual LIVE music, the crowds, the atmosphere, and far more than just the Dead, but ALL the great music. Before scalpers were bots, and best seats could be had by lining up in rain, or heat, cold and damp, with friends who added to the experience and laughs, and those great tickets could be bought for a fraction of today’s prices. (Neil Young & Crazy Horse on the original Rust Never Sleeps tour from great seats, for pocket money, or The Band on their final tour, to name just two) Now, so many of the performers I flocked to see in my youth just don’t tour anymore, or if they do, you are buying bleacher tickets at prime prices, if you are lucky. Planning to go with the gang? Good luck getting seats together now. So these Dave’s releases represent to me some of that early concert fun. Yes, some lesser, some way better, but that, too, is part of the joy. And two shows in one release sounds like a sound bargain. Just my two cents.
    And for folks in the Seattle area, I urge you to embrace the new Kraken franchise - you will love the game as I have for 60 years+, and since the franchise hired Ron Francis, a legend as a player and a gentleman as a person, you are in great hands. (Ron was a long time Hartford Whaler, when they were in the NHL, and I am positive this was why Dave Kloc put the whales on the cover of DaP 36, from Hartford). Chances are, the team will be a powerhouse quickly, along the lines of Las Vegas in 2-3 years, and as a guy that has followed the sad sack Toronto Maple Leafs as long as I have, that means something.
    So, in summary, enjoy these releases, they never fail to entertain me, because nothing beats “live” music, and Grateful Dead “Live” music is as good as it gets. And Seattle, enjoy the Kraken, you won’t be disappointed.

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    Off topic?

    A post- Hornsby '90s show would make a pleasant change.

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    That’s how many years the Dead performed, not 5!
    So I like any show, from any year, as long as it’s a great show and it sounds at least decent.
    I have good equipment and after listening to shitty tapes for decades, I’m able to sit back, entrain and enjoy.
    Meaning I’ve never received a release that was so bad I couldn’t stand it. I cherish each and every release, even from years that aren’t my favorite. Do I play them as much as others, of course not, but that does not diminish my gratitude that we’ve been blessed with so many shows, especially this century! I mean come on, if you think about it it’s amazing how many releases there are, and only so far! So of course with so many different folks from very diverse spaces not everyone is going to like everything, sorry but that’s called life.
    But that’s just my personal take, I totally understand some folks fervent attachment to certain years/eras, hell I love 85 for fugs sake, certainly not a majority opinion, lol, so I get it.
    But Mr Heartbreaks second post is very valid. To me, vested discourse has always been one of the most fun parts of being a DH. Man the civil arguments we used to have in the car on the long road between or after shows was epic, and hugely entertaining, especially if some one was out in left field versus the consensus. It always amazed me that 3 or 4 or 7 people that went to the same show could have such different takes on what we all just experienced. Of course experience was always a big part of how we obtained our opinions...
    Perhaps the most well known example is the dude in the dead movie out in the lobby!

    My only criticism is not dissenting opinions, or what you say, it’s how you say it!
    Sometimes we, and I mean many of us, can knee jerk react and be a bit cantankerous. Often the individual cools down and realizes and even apologizes, that’s what makes this place so special....civil discourse, something severely lacking in the world today!
    So just because someone doesn’t like something doesn’t mean the majority should slag them, as long as they do so respectfully and intelligently.
    I also agree that this place can be a little too “the emperor has new clothes” like in its ability to eat anything. Shit the band used to joke about how overly excepting we were! So I can understand MR HBs opinion on that too.

    Finally, again only a personal opinion, but it is so easy to sell these that if I was in the camp that’s only into specific stuff, I would still subscribe because:
    1) you get the bonus disc!
    2) since you paid for it you might as well rip it to the collection and then,
    3) you can sell one or 2 and pretty much pay for the whole subscription!
    That also has the added benefit of providing copies for Johnny come latelys or folks who missed out some how.
    In other words,
    4) if we don’t support this iT WILL GO AWAY! Like it or not this a business and if we dont buy, they won’t sell!
    Harsh, sad but true, but the bottom line rules...

    Eventually, once most, but not all, sit down, fire up and listen, I think most folks will find these interesting, enjoyable, well played shows, even if there are no 30 minute Dark Stars etc...
    Would I of preferred 12/18/73, you bet ya, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to really dig these shows!
    Just a thought....onward through the fog!

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:00

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12/3/79

I have the show on as background music for an on-line training where I just have to listen.

Terrapin allllmost comes to a complete stop.

sounds a group of sloths playing

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry: much love to you; so sad you got "Horse" disease. A true tragedy.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:21

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isn't heading Boris Johnson's house??

And Vguy, please don't stop the "jokes"... it's the little things now and a silly smile is worth a million [fill in whether you value love or money and state the denomination...]

A penguin is driving down the road and can feel something is not right with his car...he sees a repair shop and pulls in...he tells the mechanic something's wrong but I'm not sure what...the mechanic tells him "ok give me about an hour to check it out"...the penguin goes out on the street, looks around and sees an ice cream shop...he goes in and orders an extra large dish of vanilla bean ice cream and starts dipping his beak into it, enjoying the ice cream...later on he goes back to the repair shop, the mechanic looks up from what he is doing and tells the penguin "looks like you blew a seal"...the penguin shrugs, wipes his bill on his shoulder and sez "Nah, it's only ice cream..."

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Submitted by Gollum on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 22:43

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mm...okay, that's pretty good-

Always loved a good joke, thanks for the laughter, it feels grateful! ... What would you rather have? a five dollar foot long or a free 8 inches?
I’m sorry, that’s the last joke I ever tell. Love them just don’t have any...lol

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“It’s too damn hot for a penguin to be just walkin’ around here”

-Billy Madison

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Moses, my apologies! I forgot what your avatar was and started using it a few months back when I made my first trip through the E72 box and saw the cover for 5/18. I've changed it now, as you can see. Can't show up at prom in the same dress as someone else! How gauche.

SJButler--I would also get Charlie's Angels trading cards, even though I had never been allowed to watch the show. I eventually traded for a card that had Farah standing naked behind a bush, which was the best card anyone at our school had.

I was at a party in the B.C. times (Before Covid), and these two guys were talking about how they were sure that the original Star Wars (yes, I had trading cards of that, too) came out in 1979. After a while I calmly stated, "The original SW came out on 5/25/77." The only reason I know that is because of DaP1. The one guy kind of accepted that, but the other (who had been busy all night brashly telling everyone all the "facts" in his head) glared at me and said, "I think it came out in 1979." I demurely said, "You may think that, but you'll be wrong . . . " with a little bit of tease in my voice. I was about to tell them how I had that date memorized, but the know-it-all glared harder at me and stormed off before I could explain how I wasn't being rude but was just trying to needle him a bit. Oh, well. The other people grinned, as they had grown tired of the blowhard anyway.

p.s. Casey--How 'bout them Twins, eh? :)

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 09:46

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Couple days late on this but did anybody listen to TIGDH on SiriusXM a couple days ago? Dave was talking about some 8 track recordings From ‘68 that were ultimately set aside when the then state of the art 16 track machines came out. Dave went on to say that we’d be seeing these 8 track recordings “soon”. He didn’t give much more and I got the impression it would more of a one off release vs a full box set or anything. Maybe a RSD release or something but that was my take and he was off the subject within a few seconds. The date of these specific recordings was 8.21.68 but assume there are more multitrack tapes from the same effort.

Did anybody else hear the same thing?

What ever it is it would be great. I went back and loaded up the Tahoe Bowl stuff from February ‘68 (DiP 22 of I’m thinking of correctly). Smoking stuff!

Seems like there is a bunch of pending stuff (AB50, Dap 36, maybe a fall box???) so maybe what I heard was more what I wanted to hear Dave say....

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:26

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I didn't hear Dave talking about it, but maybe he was referring to the Aoxomoxoa outakes. I believe they started recording in 8 track and then 16 track came along and they started over. I would love it if they released the Aixomoxoa outakes, or any thing from 1968. I would love to see some of the tour of the Great Pacific Northwest be released. Thanks for the post GreenMtnDead , it's encouraging.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:30

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...next Boxset , is the 5LP’s Buffalo 77’ performance on 9 sides , the 10th side is an Etching! They used the original analog tapes/ recordings which in my opinion, makes this one of the best sounding release to date on vinyl . this Vinyl release is easily included in the top 5 Primo audio records ever released by the dead & team to date. Only 7700 will be issued / released , I would Recommend every fan to buy one and even if you don’t have a turntable this just make might make you start looking for one because magical things will happen My brother and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:49

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Green Mtn Dead - I might be wrong, but I think it was part of this show that was due to come out on vinyl with that comic-Origins. It would be good to see it released on vinyl or cd.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:00

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Ha, ya they just beat up on my Royals pretty good. Young arms aren’t quite up to par yet, but I think this COVID shortened season will do them some good while providing some necessary experience on the big stage. Good luck to the Twins! As mentioned before I think the division is theirs for the taking!!!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:53

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Tasty

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:07

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Daverock -

You nailed it - The 8.21.68 show is coming with the Origins on vinyl if you get the Deluxe set. Would love to see that come out on CD (sorry, I'm just not a vinyl guy). I was surprised a year or two ago when the '80 Warfield acoustic sets that were originally RSD releases showed up as a general release. So maybe this vinyl release will show up on CD.

Crazy Fingers Crossed......

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Submitted by estimating prof on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:28

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A couple days ago I got to give Dave's 35 a focused and loud listen, and I really enjoyed it. The scarlet/fire has some really peaking moments. I had not heard this show before the release and I think it is right up there for me as a favorite from the 83 - 85 period. I think it's one of the better 80s releases that has come out. The filler from the night before is also excellent.

Can anyone recommend any other standout Scarlet/Fires from 84 or 85?

What about other great shows from 84, besides Augusta?

I listened to a Frost 85 show to get ready for this release and I enjoyed that one quite a bit also, Scarlet>Eyes!

Cheers Ya'll

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 16:04

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I believe they recorded the Pacific Northwest run on Multitrack (8 Track) in Jan/Feb 68. Didn't Lemieux mention that these 8 tracks were found in someone's attic or returned or something.. or perhaps found in a hidden pile in the vault. There is some mysterious history here that I cannot quite put my finger on. ..but if someone is talking about a release of 68 multi-tracks I got the feeling they did not release everything they had when Road Trips Vol 2 No 2 came out (2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom).

Talk of this makes my day, a new multi-track 68 release would at least in part make up for the shitstorm that 2020 has become.

Prof, agree that #35 seems by some to have become unjustly maligned. It has it's moments.

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It’s not like I’m heading to Dubai or India anytime soon, so I don’t need any escorts.
But a maul, oh man!

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Wow, that guy has everything, and he’s actively posting right now on a variety of boards.
Sounds like he knows his synthetic motor oil too.
Wonder if he could give us a review on DaP 1-35?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 17:24

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I'm gonna ask Dave one question:

"Do you think that you could make it with Frankenstein?"

Where is that from? Answer correctly, and you could win A NEW CAR!

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New York Dolls 1st album. It still gets played when the time is right. You may want to investigate 'A Hard Night's Day', demos for all of the first album and half of the 2nd. It has a suitably rougher sound than the official releases. Though I have many of his albums, Todd Rundgren wasn't the best choice for producing the 1st album imho.

They were quite hip in England circa 1973. Legendary appearance on the T.V show "The Old Grey Whistle Test," playing "Looking For a Kiss" and "Jet Boy"- priceless. A visibily rankled Bob Harris-the host of the show-sums them up as "mock rock".
Due to Nick Kent writing for the New Musical Express, my vision of top of the range American rock in the early 70s was formed in the image of Iggy and the Stooges, MC5, Flamin' Groovies and the Dolls. All leading to Patti Smith, Televison and The Ramones in 75-76. Which gave birth to British punk. Which wasn't as good.

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Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.
💀🌹

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I wasn’t too in to that Glam Rock scene with the Dolls, but I had a couple of friends who were pretty in to Mott The Hoople, so we ventured out to see them when they came through town in ‘74 (Kansas opened - kind of a mismatch there). Mick Ralphs had left the band then, replaced by Spooky Tooth guitarist Ariel Bender (an alias, for contractual reasons), and I have to admit, not a bad show. Ian Hunter was quite the showman.

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Yet another band who have accompanied me through life-great singles and albums. I wasn't actually into glam culture as such-just the records, which coincided with my mid teens. Alice Cooper were another American band from that era , the most visible in England , courtesy of "Schools Out", who seemed to have the right idea.

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Submitted by DaveStrang on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 12:53

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Winning the 'prize' is enough! (LOL)...how about if we donate it to USPS? They can use all the help they can get...as long as it's not used to ferry Louis DeJoy back and forth to work!

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I have never been able to figure out how they decide what number of a limited edition you get. Probably because I have normally been on the wrong end of the numbering system for most limited items. I am now baffled in a good way. Decided to treat myself to a gift and ordered the Pacific Northwest box. Internet says there are less than 1500 left so I figured I better pull the trigger. Was just blessed with receiving #136 out of 15,000. I promise I won't complain about receiving high numbers anymore!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 14:54

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about Scarlet > Fire from 84 and 85

6 18 83 needs to be included

6 21 84
3 28 85
7 13 84 scarlet touch fire
4 20 84
12 31 84

3 10 81

A CM Board...

Grateful Dead
Berkeley Community Theatre
Berkeley, CA
August 24, 1972

Set 1:
d1t01 - Promised Land
d1t02 - Sugaree
d1t03 - Jack Straw
d1t04 - China Cat Sunflower ->
d1t05 - I Know You Rider
d1t06 - Me And My Uncle
d1t07 - Bird Song
d1t08 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t09 - Tennessee Jed
d1t10 - Playing In The Band
d2t01 - Casey Jones

Set 2:
d2t02 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
d2t03 - Mexicali Blues
d2t04 - Brown Eyed Women
d2t05 - Truckin'
d2t06 - Dark Star ->
d2t07 - Morning Dew
d3t01 - Sugar Magnolia
d3t02 - Ramble On Rose
d3t03 - Greatest Story Ever Told
d3t04 - Sing Me Back Home
d3t05 - One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
d3t06 - Uncle John's Band

Assuming that the lower number Boxes get put together first, they would also be on the first pallets loaded during manufacturing, and then placed somewhere in the warehouse with other pallets in front of them. Distribution then starts at the higher numbers which came off the assembly line later and the pallets sit in front of the pallets with lower numbers. They then start shipping the higher numbers and work toward the lower numbers.
Your hesitation paid off.

Of course, CD 00001 gets dropped on a spindle, and 00002 gets dropped on top of it, and it keeps going.
CD 22000, which sits at the top of the pile after manufacturing, gets put in CD holder 00001, assuming that the number gets printed right before the shrink wrap goes on.

To further complicate things, if more than one production line is running, say 4 lines for a 20000 unit release, then there are 4 ‘first-units’.

When people fill orders they just grab off of the pile, most likely with no thought of the number they are giving you.

This is pure speculation, I am not a paid attorney spokesperson.

Congrats on the low number!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 16:36

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Apparently the trolls are still running wild on this string and you know who you are. Don't take the bait!

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