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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • mustin321
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    Well said Charlie3

    I couldn’t have said it better, but I feel the exact same way.

  • Truckin79
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    Great 84 show

    These 3 nights are great but the magic shows from that spring Tour in 84 were the second in Hampton and the Niagara Falls show. Those shows are amazing! The whole Spring tour was an amazing! People say that Jerry was off . I have to say that the Heads danced their butts off kicking down the floor seats and singing their lungs out! This was my favorite tour. Lots of love for the band and each other.

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    I recently bought my pet duck a mask...

    ....to protect it from coronavirus.
    Its nothing flashy, but it fits the bill.
    Sorry. Thats all I've got for now.

  • Oroborous
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    Yeah, what’s up with the jokes dude?

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    No worries Oro, I didn't see anything objectionable at all about your earlier post, just made me think there was probably a fundamental split in what people hope to get out of these releases, and I like posts that make me think, so thanks. The back and forth on these threads sometimes leads to exposure to different insights and sometimes some pretty funny shit. Which begs the question, where are the jokes lately? I'm talking to you Vguy72 (but in a totally nice, hey dig your jokes kind of way, not in any way to make anyone go all Travis Bickle on the situation). And don't be afraid to provide an explainer along with the jokes, took me a day to get the Thermos Tat joke. But I really enjoyed it all the more when I got it. Been on a serious time crunch lately, so my listening time has been pretty limited, but I am looking forward to the 2/21/71 show. But yeah, the mood around here lately makes it seem like we're in the middle of some sort of global pandemic or something...which would seem like the perfect time for some humor to me.

    Edit: And thanks for the kind words Oro.

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    First I must state I was making a general statement after opening up this board for the first time and reading all 10 pages from stem to stern, for good or for ill. I’m sure I was reacting to a general vibe I felt (so that basically meaningless “I” ) I in no way meant any individual and especially not you! Your a long time favorite and often a voice of reason here.
    In fact, I agreed with everything you said except the part about your not dead enough? I especially enjoyed the 20 DH’s will give you 20 different answers. That’s the shit I love and miss!

    So to all I should clarify:
    the “issues” seems to be
    1- complete shows verses chop jobs
    2- too much “dead” space
    3- sequencing of said complete shows

    Like most things there is not going to be a perfect fit, so the topic becomes how to achieve all of the above, or if not possible?...what then?
    My clarification is complete shows (wouldn’t mind having to miss say one song if it’s a extra great show), but if there’s extra disc space, perhaps reasonably add extra material, especially in example, 9/2/80, which Dick said was all there was, and why he used it as filler...as far as sequencing, we’ll that’s probably more the issue, and it’s probably really contingent on how your listening. And that I’m not touching with a ten foot pole as how you dig something should be whatever is best for you, imho...

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    I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm getting Dave's Picks subscriptions to get complete shows regardless of the length of the show and I'm pretty sure this is the root of some of the disagreement here. If you are getting this to get as many minutes of music as possible, you're going to have a different view than if you are getting these just to get a complete show with each release. Personally, I haven't picked up several of the compilation Road Trips just because the compilation model doesn't really interest me at this point. I can't explain why this particular eccentricity afflicts me, but I guess you just dig what you dig, no need to overthink it and nothing against those who enjoy the compilation model. When I listen to the Dead it is almost always either a studio album or an entire show and any filler is typically just a distraction for me. Again, if you like the filler, don't take it personally that I do not. If this is an occasional thing with Dave's Picks it will be a minor inconvenience for me, and if it is a regular thing then it will diminish my enjoyment and interest in the series. That will mean more copies for those of you that do dig that format, so no harm done either way. You can chalk up my lack of interest in burning copies or programming the CD player every time that I listen to something to my Luddite tendencies.

    As far as the fact this is an '84 show, that doesn't bother me a bit, I'm looking forward to having another show from '84 and as always, when I listen I'll know how much I like it. I'll take a full show from whatever year Dave Picks, that is not at all an issue for me. I don't know what makes someone a seasoned deadhead or not, and my guess is that 20 different deadheads will give you 20 different answers (isn't that cool?), so I'm not sure how enthusiasm for this release or the manner in which the filler was added correlates to someones internalized deadhead hierarchy, but if it helps anyone, feel free to think of me as a bad, bad deadhead for my criticism of the filler choices on this release.

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    Oroborous - right on

    Absolutely. Being critical is positive, not negative.

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    Your all too damn funny!

    Thanks for entertaining me the last half hour, LOL......normally I dig opposing views etc, that was a fun part of being a DH, think the lobby folks in the GD movie, but this release must be some kind of record for It?
    Now as much as I get turned off by the emperor has new clothes rah, rah, everything they did is ALWAYS great uncritical cheerleader BS, (and before you insult me Jerry commented that it was sometimes frustrating that “they’ll eat anything” etc) this release isn’t even out yet and the majority of posts appear to be negative, again, doesn’t bother me I find it hilarious!
    I totally get folks used to their legacy technology, and Id never criticize anyone for it, so only to weigh in,, not argue etc, but to me if your paying for 240 potential minutes of music, a few inconveniences, of which there are work arounds, is reasonable to give us as many of those 240 minutes as possible...

    Personally, I’m just delighted we finally get something from 84, and from the 80s in general. I just hope it’s not another scenario like Boise 83, Chicago 79, or Boulder 81where many felt there were stronger shows.....yes, that is being picky, but again, for many, critical conversation has ALWAYS been part of the scene, which I don’t think is bad, because it’s usually based on such a love and devotion of this great band and all the wonderful music they’ve given us! So not outta negativity, but love.
    Like, always been a Bills fan, for good or for ill,....and was a fanatic back in the day, but that doesn’t mean we couldn’t sit in the bar and discuss what went bad, or who fucked up the last game, and nobody got all butt hurt because we were being critical, why, because they understood it was outta love for something that we held near and dear, and usually based on objective observation of some kind.
    What ever happened to critical thinking in this country? It’s either full on angry hate, or snowflake cheerleader. What ever happened to free thinking in the middle? Why can’t we LOVE a show, but point out it’s weaknesses too?

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...that’s a beautiful thing to say & yes I concur, 2020 could be used as well for a title, right on my cosmic friend & brother! Love out lives us all. Peace be with you all! Be safe be Kind.
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...where are these trolls & why are they following the Grateful Dead? Do you mean Freaks? Lol 🙃🙏💀🌹

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Mott the Hoople were a great live band before the glam era, we used to follow them around their gigs in little clubs around London. Listen to the second album, Thunderbuck Ram!
When their first album was released there was even speculation that it was a Dylan comeback album! Dylan being missing in action at the time after his bike accident if my adled memory serves me well.
I never could stand Bowie so I thought the Young Dudes era was crap. BUT: it did give Bob Segarini the name of his Canadian super group the Dudes after the break up of his fantastic band, the Wackers.
Wackering Heights anyone?

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There was a great box set of Mott the Hoople's first 4 albums that came out a few years ago, called "Mental Train". It has loads of bonus material, as well as two extra cds-one of which features a live concert from the Fairfield Hall Croydon September 13th 1970. Going off that, I can well believe their power as a live band - gives The Who's "Live at Leeds" a run for its money. This concert used to be available as a stand alone release. They only came to my attention in 1972, so I missed all this at the time. I never saw the original band live.

Ian Hunter is a much underrated songwriter, by my reckoning. To this day, there are songs he wrote that move me-the album "Wildlife" has two-"Angel of 8th Avenue" and the beautiful "Waterlow". Even in the Bowie years, underneath all the bluster, he wrote some amazing songs-often tucked away on B sides. "Rose" and "Rest in Peace"-come to mind. Like ballads by The Stones. Only better.

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5-9-77
I have had this debate with friends for years who think, as many others do, that Cornell is the ultimate show in this run. Or maybe the ultimate show in any run. I love Cornell but have always been partial to 5-9. It also contains my very favorite Comes A Time that I have ever heard. I just think 5-9 gets overlooked because of the night before. Sure that is the case with many other shows as well.

I have to concur! 5/9/77 is where it’s at for me as well! Primo performances from the whole group and sound quality is the “best of the best” in my humble opinion. You ‘hit the nail right on The head’, an excellent performance of “comes a time” , maybe one of the best for my taste buds!
I can’t press enough, lol, find yourself a copy and let it rock your soul! Have a grateful day everyone! 🙏💀🌹

It's off to drive I go...after doing an LA burn run this past weekend (1,100 miles r/t) I now have to do a 260 mile r/t to Prescott Valley AZ to pick up my new La Z Boy recliner...my old one gave up the ghost a few weeks ago...been sitting at weird angles...all I can say is play it LOUD there and back...

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Icecrmcnkd...thanks for the heads up about Hawkwind. They are both great albums-BBC 1972 is one I will be going for. It features the classic line up. The other release, Quark Strangeness and Charm is one of the best albums they made after Lemmy left.

There is also Gong Live in Sheffield 1974 which is as high as the sky.

5/9/77 is also my favourite Dead show from THAT run, so I may well be a poorer man come September !

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Quark,Strangeness and Charm is a great album. Highly recommended. One of my wife’s favourite memories of Hawkwind was seeing them in Manchester around the time of this album with Bob Calvert marching rapidly across the stage under strobe lighting hacking a flag to pieces with a sword. The music was great too.

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we're talkin' multi-tracks from '68????????????????????

Okay, that 8-21-68 with the silly "Origins" book should be available on CD to all. Then ... what? Is that the multi-track in question or is there more? And if it's "soon," then WHEN???

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Colin - I was there, too. Probably. UMIST or The Palace ?-maybe Salford University. I never made note of when I saw them, but I always did if I knew about it. From 1973 to 2019. This is quite likely the first year in 47 years that I have not seen them.

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Love this show. It's the one that turned me from casual Grateful Dead listener to fullfledged DeadHead. And a multitrack to boot. Right out of the starting gate with what I believe to be the finest Promised Land ever (5/23/72 and 5/16/72 are close behind). Bertha, Bird Song, Dark Star, China Cat Sun Rider, Playing in the Band, Deal, and just about everything else is as good as it it gets to my ears. Not a fan of Sing Me Back Home - would have preferred Truckin' or Brokedown Palace. Here we go......

My cats swear by them too...my old one lasted 13 years...kinda weird to sit in a new one...feel like I'm sitting on a phone book but it will break in soon enough ...

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I'm lucky if my cats even ALLOW me to sit in my favorite chair. You'd think that feeding, cleaning poop, playing and stroking might earn a little respect, but no. Apparently, these things are owed!!

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Three Dog Night-Suitable For Framing
Mark Lindsay-Complete Singles Collection
Dave's Picks 2-only disc 1 would play :(
Santana-Borboletta
Santana-Festival

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Hey now I too have lazy boys and cats, just got a new lazy boy couch with a recliner on both ends and a beautiful large lazy boy recliner that is controlled by a remote control, awesome. Being an armchair warrior during this revolution that is on going, I need my lazy boy. My cats also love them, the last one that I traded in I got in 1999 and the cats kinda tore and dug and scratched the front of the arms, like cats will do, but we let them do what ever they want as long as they continue to hang around. You know you live with them, they allow you to.
Revolution music
Volunteers Jefferson Airplane "looks what's happening out in the street"
In Rock Deep Purple "wait for the ricochet"
In for the Kill Budgie "when I was born I was given a will, that the meaning of life is I'm in for the Kill"
Captain Beyond Captain Beyond "what was my armworth when they took it away"
Buffalo Springfield Buffalo Springfield "It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound, everybody look what's going down"
If I could breathe, I'd be out there....

" I'm an urban guerilla, I make bombs in my cellar / I'm society's destructor, I'm a petrol bomb constructor"-Hawkwind's follow up single to Silver Machine in 1973. It wasn't a hit, partly because it got banned by the BBC and partly because it wasn't very good. They apparently got busted by the bomb squad , too. Its great when people take you seriously.

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Glad you agree

I was fluffing that show recently

Terrapin

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Then I must say, I really admire your fluff!

"Foot of Pride"...?? Robert Zimmerman I do believe......

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I liked 7-22-84 a lot as well.

Also liked Dave’s 35. Gotta put the show in order, but it’s all good.

And Foot of Pride is a solid Infidels outtake—there were many.

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just asking for anyone with accurate info on Dave's recent utterances, re: multi-track '68 tape release(s)...

We know there's that juicy 10-21-68 that goes with "Origins" -- is that multi-track?

Any other date(s) mentioned? Or is this idle guesswork.

As the victim/protagonist yelped in the final scene of The Fly: "Help me! Help me!"

pick up a family member. On the way I listened to 10 21 71 Dark Star > Sittin' > Dark Star. Bright moon, Jupiter, city skyline...I wait at a curbside for passenger.

At the end of DS reprise, Jerry says "go", and Bobby McGee starts. After a brief moment, my passenger opens the door.

The timing was perfect. That ol' Grateful Dead magic.

Went down to a Record Store Day in Bethel Connecticut to pick up The Who's ODDS and SODS and came upon an interesting BATCH of DAVE'S PICKS in the wrapper. I was shocked I think there was 5 or 6 of them from Dave's 30-35 or 36. These 2 brothers run the store and they do barter. So if your interested give them a holler. name of store is called Disc and Dat in Bethel CT (203) 797-0067. Also saw some LP's. Good Luck.

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I'm in Denver. Now that uninterrupted 90-degree days have passed, my wall 'o morning glories that protect the backporch where I fingerpick (the guitar, not my nose) in the evenings has gone from a wall of multi-colored blooms and sun-blocking big green leaves to seed, dwindling to a few hardy flowers and otherwise entropy is running its course. I love fall for the changes, the final bloom of the cannabis plant, the cool morning temps and quickening step, but the senescence is always a little bittersweet.

Correction: I see that it's 8-21-68 (not 10-21-68) that's on vinyl for purchasers of silly comic books. So, yes, I'd like that Dark>Stephen>Death medley on CD, it's a little under ~40 minutes. Tack on another show -- those '68 shows often only run 60-75 minutes, probably set's worth on a multi-act show -- and we've got a winner. Don't think Dave will kill off (3) '68s to make a Pick, though, sadly.

I see that the downloads with the book are all previously released tracks, so no '68 multi-track raising its head there.

Dreaming of another '68 multitrack. The one in 30 Trips is due for another spin.

Cheers, stay safe all.

I put this show back together as follows:

disc 2 Space - stop 3:13
disc 3 Space - start 0:16
crossfade 00:00:30

Also crossfaded the sets.

Total show time - 160:28

Tad too long for 2 CD’s.

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there is a sticker you can get that is a smiling frog doing the two finger peace sign

Might be nationwide, but not sure

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Put me in mind of the wonderful Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band - I’m the urban spaceman baby, I’ve got speed, I’ve got everything I need.

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Frank Parry - that was nearer the mark!

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Not that Dave is listening to you, but 10 shows at 2 discs each, is another freakin' $250 box, doooood!

How about a three-nighter from fall '72? $100.... Or a $100 '69 box?

Seems like we must be only a week+ away from an AB 50th pre-order, no?

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I'm ready, I hope they release 9/20/70 with it.

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If he uses 70 at all, I’m going with 9/19/70 only cause Dave had it on his original maybe “list” way back when, and if you check it out, many of the releases put out so far are on that list. I’m assuming part of that would have been determined from knowing tapes were available (and that was back in like 2012?)....I think the only other 70 shows on that list are from 1/2/70 which of course is Dave’s 30...
Obviously just speculation but it is interesting how many of those shows have come out.

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The Dark Star alone is reason enough. I am under the impression that there aren't any high quality tapes from 2nd half '70, due to Bear in jail.

I would be surprised to see a 10 show box set from 68/69. Maybe 3 or 4 shows is marketable. For 10 shows we're looking at 2nd half 1972, and I'm all for it. Dark Star Galore.

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I would love ANYTHING from 1970, even if it was a compilation or highlights. Pickings are obviously slim, but something's got to be out there. How about the 5/24 Hollywood Festival from Newcastle England that year??I would LOVE to have a clean, crisp, clear, well mixed version of that show! The 4/15/70 show is one of my top 5 fave's from Boxzilla.

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