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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    Ok, DV, just for you ; )
    That’s in that WL box right?

    But it might take a few daze as I’m hoping to go full 73 box asap! (AND stream 3 D&C Boulder shows)
    Feel like it’s gonna get stranger….gonna be a long, long, crazy WE!

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    This one is for you OB. The middle night of a great three day run at Winterland. Often overlooked due to the other two nights.

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    Just about right...

    You summed that up pretty well.

    As for the night before, perhaps not as good but different. They opened the show with Casey Jones (the sixth to last time played), it was the third or fourth show of the tour and right off interstate 95, which in the mid 80's was practically paved with cocaine coming in Florida and making it up the coast. It was everywhere in 1984 (RIP Len Bias). Opening up the show with Casey Jones.. well, you know what was on their minds (and up their noses). I managed to make it to the first row for that one.

    A decent show with a high energy opener. Every now and again I get in the mood for some down and dirty mid 80's. They played some 68 show on SiriusXM yesterday while I was working on some house project, I think 10/12/68 at the Avalon and I was thinking what a garage band sound they had back then. By '72 they had cleaned up their tones and were anything but a garage band.., then the clean jazzy sound of 74, enter the Travis Bean era in 76 to the practically perfect band in '77, again far away from a garage band sounding GD.

    But by the 80's that garage band rawness had made it's way back into their sound, completely different but raw, crunchy and high energy.

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    Interesting, fun show.
    Ist sets good, but so so.
    The second they step it up.
    Got the Friday energy going here a little…
    Real nice H/S/F, status Estimated/Eyes, fun first Do it in the Road, Brentski feeling his oats several times this night.
    Phuching cool ass Alien landing spooky space into a nice trippy Dew. Imagine the Stones/NFA ender was still new enough, in fact Stones sounds like Bobs still working on it? Sweet Brokedown to send em home!
    At first I was kinda meh, but this one’s a creeper! By the end the audio was really good too, real clear vocals, and don’t recall Jer having any issues? Sequence from Road threw Dew was worth the price of admission alone!
    Sure it was even better in person. They seemed to always have some reaction with this place?
    Can’t recall if I’ve heard the previous night, but if it’s as good as the rest…

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    6/27/84 sounds good to me. Will get it going today.

    Had a blast at the MUATM show last night.

    If you are going on Saturday, I wouldn't ruin it for you, but I will say great show, June 91 was super hot.

    They had a cool short segment on the Here Comes Sunshine Box, can't wait.

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    Mañana
    I’m down, never been…
    Perhaps 6/20/83 SB does exist and is being stashed? (Hey why not lol)

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    Being in the pavilion helps.. but no soundboards exist for this show, guessing the machine got zapped when they lost power. The audience tapes sound decent though.. especially considering what they had to go through to make the tapes.

    Phil really gets into it during the second set. Was it thunder or was it Phil?

    Hope you all are doing well... another summer show perhaps? Since no ones thrown out anything how about another Merriweather, 6.27.84? Certainly off the beaten path.

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    Thanks for filling out that picture of the show in my mind Jim!
    How in the world did that taper keep his rig dry?
    I just picked the first one in the archive and the sound was pretty good.
    As Oro suggests a matrix of this should be released. I'd buy it for sure.
    Got so much more feel for the flow when you can hear the audience react.
    Cheers

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    Take a few days off from the boards here and this show pops up.

    For a few brief hours the heavens hid behind a torrent of darkness and mayhem the likes of which, well, tripping at least, the likes of which one rarely gets to witness and come through the other side unscathed.

    It might not come through on the tapes, but boy was that something to behold. The most fun I have ever had a Dead Show.

    I was going to hit 12/31/76 today which came up on the DaP 46 thread but that one will have to take a back seat to this. It's probably been 15 years since I listened to it. Any other storm I have seen of this intensity, I sought cover.. I got to enjoy this one with 20,000 of my closest friends, unprotected, outside, exposed.. many on the lawn.

    Lightning struck the top of the shed I think during Wharf Rat, but the storm was raging for most of the show. Bobby had to put down his guitar during Sugar Magnolia supposedly because he was getting shocked for fear of getting shocked. The storm was localized, but I do not recall a flood on the Little Patuxent River like this one even during some of the bigger hurricane type storms that have hit over the last 30 or 40 years.. at least across Route 29 where the venue sat. The walking bridge to the parking lot was gone, flooded away.. and the highway into and out of the show was under water and therefore closed.
    After the show they had did a hack job patch on the lawn as there were big ruts (mini canyons) where people were doing body slides down the hill (both fully clothed and naked), at first by accident later on purpose. After the second show they brought in the big equipment and had to completely resurface the lawn and the venue before shows could commence. It was destroyed by a dayglo infused bodies tobogganing down the hill. The lawn was like a big waterslide and where it met the pavilion it made a cascading four-foot muddy waterfall into the pavilion seating.

    It was like a four-mile hike from the show to my parents' house where most of us went afterwards. We had to wade across the floodwaters over the highway, the currents trying to displace us.. a few of the smaller people held hands to keep their balance. Picture that, coming down from mushrooms after a local dead show. That's my Grateful Dead kodak moment etched into what remains of my teenage memories.

    Big fun with the Grateful Dead.

    Oh, and the show, at least as I remember it, was high octane GD. A little rough around the edges typical for '83 but the band never wavered, they seemed to embrace the energy and just roll with it in perfect time with the storm around them. I'm clearly biased but I would call this a great show which does not come through on the tapes that circulate.

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    Didn’t catch it before, but JG mos def throws it out there, Shane they didn’t do it more.
    Total surprise seeing it at Buckeye! That and the Violent Fems opening, who I was totally not familiar with until then lol.

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The excitement is palpable. Looking forward to this evening!

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Ah Veneta!

Hadn't listened to it in awhile and hadn't watched it in a long time.

Once again it took me to far out places, future & past. You just can't beat that!

Wonderful & highly recommended review in Taper's Compendium by John Dwork, who's much more adept at describing the nuance and the magic within the music for anyone whose interested in prolonging the trip.

I will say this, and I'm not sure how many other bands you can say this about.
But in regards to the Grateful Dead:
Man, those guys sure knew how to play on Acid!

Big props to Strider on getting that little presentation off the ground, I enjoyed it immensely!
(BTW Get Dwork involved on the 50th;)

Like Babbs was saying (I could listen to him all day!):
We Have To Work With What We’ve Got, And Show Our Creativity.

And I agree, what we're going through, this is a psychedelic experience.
I think I'm tripping....

Anyhooooo, Wow!

Gonna be hard to follow that up.

I did hope we'd hear a little somethin' somethin' about what's to come in regards to releases this year.
Been hearing some talk of multi-track 1968 and 8/21/68.
If anyone can elaborate on these fine rumors, I'd indulge.

I'd be hip to go explore some '68, little primal Friday mission.
Maybe some PNW touring perhaps, keep the Oregon theme going.

And I see Slow Dog Noodle recommending 8/28/82 for our listening pleasure.

So much to choose from, whose got a pick?

Happy Friday All!

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Great stuff. Multi track Plangent! The video is cool, unreal Strider.

This release is still for sale, if you don't have it, you should grab it. It is well worth it and almost sold out.

No announcements this week. Now what?

Be well folks and enjoy!

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38 years ago today I was at Veneta, Oregon for the field trip. I was pretty beat after driving all night, we stopped and picked up some beer in the morning before heading in. Cool place, fun show, musically, I think the shows at Ventura 7/82 and Frost 10/82 were better shows, but going up to Oregon was a trip.

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Amazing how much can change in ten years. I like the video that was made in/of the audience at Veneta Dead 82. Completely different feeling at this Dead show compared to 1972 Veneta. I’ll have to listen to 82 today. And or watch the video on YouTube.
Last night was a hoot. Ken Babbs is a living legend.

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Those pranksters moved the stream from Friday night to Thursday on me.

I can still watch it though, its all good.

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I still need to do a deep dive into the recent Anthem re-release. Did we do Winterland 10/22/67 (Anthem bonus) as a pick yet? I just listened to the Cold Rain& Snow. It's a thrilling 3 minutes! I always preferred Aoxomoxoa to Anthem, but Jim sez Anthem is a favorite, hmmm. Queueing up.....

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No arguments from me.. I haven't had the chance to fin this one in yet, and I'm already attitude adjusted for just such an event.

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What a great show, this one definately is a show to play over and over again, not just a once over like some shows. What a cool time, the Dead were still living down in the Haight at 710 . Mickey Hart adds a lot to the band. Hopefully, there is some more 1967 -68 in the vault to be released.

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Indeed, what a cool time Billy. I didn't realize they were living at 710 then. The Dead commuting to local Frisco gigs from their 710 crash pad! The mind reels.

I'm really digging Pig's organ on this. So, this is only Pig playing organ? Wow! I guess I tend to associate TC with the best primal Dead organ sound, but Pig is just wailing here! For someone who hated psychedelics, he sure had a feel for psychedelic music. I thought the primal Dead sound was forged in the acid tests, where everyone dosed. But Pig never dosed, even at the acid tests, right? How did he have such a perfect feel for this music? Too many questions for tonight, Gollum. time for some zzzz's.

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Listened to it only once, half paying attention... sort of forgot about the 10/22/67 disc... perfect for a rainy Rhode Island Saturday... be good everyone. bob t

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Charlie Parker would have been a 100 today. Happy Birthday Be-bop Jazz master. Miles Davis was in the Charlie Parker Be-bop Quintet from 1944 to 1948. Also check out Jack Kerouac and Steve Allen performing “Charlie Parker”. Very beautiful
Speaking of beautiful.
I love 1967 Vintage Dead. Will re check it.
Still feeling up from Shakedown Stream. Ken Babbs is a national treasure.

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Inevitably, pig did get dosed a few times, but supposedly he was none too happy about it.
So that and osmosis, how could he not inherit that psychedelic style.
Like coming out of a show feeling like your dosed when you know you didn’t...89 Hampton was like that.
Can you imagine being immersed in a small neighborhood swelling with the sights and sounds of the culture, while the radio played some weird pop echo of it from afar of what was happening right there around you?
I don’t think the Bacon gets enough love for his groovy organ playing.

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Nice to see you mi amigo. Can’t believe you were there. That would have to be a top lifetime experience I’m sure.
So I don’t think I could see you, but I’m guessing you were next to the camera right in front of JG for the third set according to an earlier post? I’ll have to look again before I put the box back...
Been enjoying your posts, and like others, really dig the stories!

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Yes....I kicked the day off with some of his early recordings with Dizzy Gillespie. Superb book on Charlie Parker by Stanley Crouch, called, appropriately enough, "Kansas City Lightning."

It always seemed to me that the Dead only really became The Dead after Mickey Hart joined. Much as I love and still listen to what I have from 1966 and the first 9 months of 1967, they were still, to my ears The Warlocks at this stage. They seemed to explode into colour once Mickey Hart joined.

I had to do work work, not house work.
Got up early for me on a Saturday, fired up the tunes, and got the work done.
It was cloudy and rainy anyway.

Music to do work by:
10-22-67
2-26-77
7-9-89 playing now

Sun is out now, time to pause the tunes and go outside. Will get back to the tunes later when it’s beer time.

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I like where this conversation is going.
Pigpen definitely wails in '66-'67.
He's way up front in the mix, prob since he was DI'd into the PA, so you get the loud Vocals & Keyboards on these tapes, but yeah it's some heavy stuff to hear him just laying it down.

The Pranksters and the Dead were pioneering the sound machines. Was just reading about the Pranksters going to see the Beatles and freaking out. Funny stuff.

Was listening to 10/22/67 yesterday along with some '66 stuff and Pig is just shredding it up.
Gonna take on some 1966 Rare Cuts & Odds today.

Garage Dead!

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Pigpen seems to me to have arrived fully formed at the start of the Dead. Whereas the others were all at various stages of development, and continued to progress at a frightening rate, he was as is, and ever would be, right from the start.

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I like your idea of moving on to this BobT. I've neglected it also. I started it yesterday but got stuck. I had to listen to the New Potato 3 times. There's so many great Potatoes but this surely is among the best. You get the feeling it must have been one of Phil's favorite tunes to play at the time. He really digs in! Added Avalon to my Sunday line-up, but maybe someone has another pick for today, too?

RE Gollum:
EDIT: That 6/8/69 New Potato from Fillmore West '69 Bonus is a big Wow.

Love to know how much more of the 6/14/68 show is in the Vault..
Listening to the Audience tape, it's blow your mind stuff.

Avalon '69 sounds good to me.

Alligator!

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Thanks for the tip! I've never heard it. I'll check it out-

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Oops, I misspoke I was thinking of the New Potato from 6/8/69 on that bonus Disc, but yeah the 6/14/68 show is a ripper, the Caution from that show was on the Bonus disc and there's a cool portion of Audience recording out there as well.

Confusion, dread confusion..

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Two close listens to 10/22/67 was just what the doctor ordered.. They whole thing is amazing, Embryonic Dead. Funny, I just got back from an amazing road ride on my bike and it finished with New Potato Caboose blaring in my ears and I check in to see potato banter here. Nice.

I'm all in with AoxomoxoA Bonus Material. Like Bob T, Gollum (and others), I did not give these guys the proper fanfare when they arrived, not sure why....

I hear Jorge was at both these shows. I can't wait for one of his great posts documenting the events....

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No problem GOGD! The 6/8/69 Potato it is. Anyways, I don't think I've heard a bad potato. Potato Sunday!

p.s. don't be shy Jorge! We're a pretty good natured bunch here.

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Yeah Jorge, get on the New Potato Caboose and ride awhile, Great Post btw!

Gollum - Yeah, I think you'll dig the 6/8/69 Potato, I think it just might be the bestest...

And while there's no Potato on 6/14/68, the Caution is well worth a deep dive, might also be the bestest.

I really dig the original Mixes on both Anthem & Aoxomoxoa.
There's so much more going on.
I thought the story that Bob Matthews was telling about remixing with Jerry on the GOGD cast this week was illuminating.

Alrighty, Enjoy Potato Sunday You All!

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I agree, I think the original mixes are way better, hands down. I came home from a Dead show up in Oakland back in 1979, I put on Anthem of the Sun with headphones and I could hear the color purple, it was very cool. I also heard that the tapes with the original mix of Aoxomoxoa were lost for awhile, I'm glad they found them.

....6.8.69? Set list looks tasty. Going for it!
I have a second edition poster of that run. Avatar updated. Fuzzy because of the 600×600 limitations of uploads, but thats it.
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edit. I recognize that date. 6.8.69 holds a special place in my heart. That was the night my dad was killed when he was t-boned by a cop responding to a call, flying down the street at 80 mph with his lights off. No suffering. I was a year old, so I have no memories of him except pictures. Mom remarried in 1972 and my step-dad was the best dad ever. Don't feel sad for me. I almost didn't add this edit, but I'm among friends here. I've avoided listening to this show for forever because I know at some point during this show is when it happened. But, at some point, one needs to stare down the demons and move on. Onward!! I will meet Forrest one day, and give him the biggest hug ever.
Last leaf fallen....

If I'm not mistaken this is possibly the Notorious LSD Overdose show that is referred to throughout GD history.
If not this night, than this run of shows.
Goldfinger & Owsley both spiked the Apple Juice unbeknownst to the other.
People got clobbered with huge doses.
Robert Hunter was a casualty.
Jerry tells a great story about it on Jerry on Jerry.
Owsleystein!
They discussed this recently on the Deadcast and I guess Hunter wrote Black Peter after this, which was news to me and puts new light on that classic tune.

Admittedly I love geeking out and getting new info on these old myths and legends.

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Well today and tomorrow, August 30 & 31, 1978 Red Rocks... 5 new song intro's, (Miracle, Stagger Lee, World to Give, Heart of Me, and Shakedown Street).... I haven't listened to either for ever, and about a 1000th less than the prior two shows, which were also at Red Rocks, July 7th and 8th.... Not recommending them for pick of the day, but has anyone spent much time visiting these two.... Going to give a listen tonight and tomorrow... Thanks Bob t

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What a story. And you've obviously come thru with flying colors. That'll be some reunion when you finally get around to that overdue hug with Forrest. Onward, brother, onward!

I’m on it BobT.
Set2 on CD-R that I burned more than 10 years ago. It’s labeled ‘slight hiss’.
I assume that I have both nights on a HD, but my computer is not turned on to check.
I had a hissy Set2 on cassette in the 90’s, but the sound quality was better on my copies of the July shows, so I usually went with those.

Crazy story Vguy, that’s great that you had a good step dad.
Maybe some future year on June 8 the Vguy Knights will win the cup,
(just not against the Red Wings).

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Yes, have 30 and 31 on a HD.

Edit2:
I like this Other One.

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Sounds like some cosmic debris. Cool it all worked out as you say, but understandable that there might be shadows lurking. Perhaps sitting down with the show will root em out into the sunshine!
As a pharmacist I tried dating used to say “forward, never straight” !!
Go Knights eh!

Heavy shit VGuy and a great attitude. There is something to be said for being greatful for what we have.. and in life many things are just beyond our control.

Thanks for sharing man.. I will get more out of my next 6/8 listen as a result.

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Listened last night to Charlie Miller Audience tape, only audience available for this show, sort of reminds you of the first week of July 78 shows pre-box release. Second set is more enjoyable than the first, good Estimated>Other One>Eyes sequence. My favorite was the Jam>World to Give>Aiko post drums.... Hey the first of a very limited (3) World to Gives, you can hear it coming during the whole jam or space.... First Miracle to open the second set has an interesting ending... Onward...... bob t

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Well I took my own advice and listened to the New Potato from 6/8/69 Fillmore West Bonus, it's dope!
Phil's bass solo on this one will take you places.
If they were tremendously dosed as I believe they said they were, it further proves what I suspected:
Man, those guys sure knew how to play on Acid!

I'll bite on August '78 Red Rocks.
8/31/78 - PITB > Drums > Ollin Arageed has got me looking forward to journeys ahead.

VGuy thanks for sharing man, it seems to me you've found a good perspective. As you say, Onward!

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Yeah, that's right GOGD! They were just talking about this night on the recent podcast about "Black Peter"! What a co-inky that the Caboose led us to this show. I like this Potato. It's a little quieter in the middle than I expected which was nice. I need to improve my knowledge of New Potato and its development. I guess there is confusion about whether this is the Goldfinger show but from the sounds of it I think it could well be. Something just sounds a little squirrelly. It's fantastic though. The "He was a Friend of mine" is my new favorite version. I'm also a geek about the legends and myths around the Dead. Like Babbs said last week, everyone keeps adding on to and embellishing the myths, and maybe in 2000 years a Homer will write the truth. The idea of Jerry driving his car across the Golden Gate Bridge to rescue a demolished Hunter from the streets of San Francisco is a trip. I know I'll think of that the next time I visit that beautiful bridge.

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A Ho!

Yes sir, Gollum!
This is just the type of Geeking out that can keep me from doing all the other things I should be doing.

And a new Fave Version to boot, can't beat that.
The 12/12/69 Thelma version has always been my "definitive" version of "Friend Of Mine" but that might just be nostalgia from my GD Hour days, I'd have to listen side by side to see if there's a rivalry.
But will keep that in mind for a future rainy day.

Yeah, I know that "they're" saying it was that run of shows at the Fillmore West when the Freak Outs happened. But I think there's confusion on the exact day / date. D Gans and Corry Arnold discuss this show and the Wayne Ceballos appearance at some length on one of the GD Hour Episodes. I'd need to listen to that again and look over the run to get a clearer idea, but again.. that'll probably happen some other day.

I sure wish I had one of them there Photographic type memory thingys.. mine is more of the leaky foggy forgetty type. It's as if each new piece of information writes over the other latest piece of information.
But it does make for continued entertainment and freshness ;)

And alas.. 2000 years, Babbs can we get a request in for a sooner Homer?

Might be down to us, get to writing.

Liking this hissy / dolby'd out 8/31/78 show so far, it's nice and mellow.
Couple shots of whiskey and these Denver Girls start looking good...

Alright, good stuff, glad you dug the trip Gollum.

PS - Glad I'm not the only one Loving the Deadcast! Sad the Seasons over, I'm ready to binge on S2 already :)

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Never said this before you all...

I like From The Heart Of Me, Sunrise & France

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I like From the Heart of Me and France. mmm, not so sure about Sunrise. Let's not forget Rain, my favorite Donna song.

The Workingman's Deadcast was great, much better than I expected. They really put some good work into it. I'm hoping they'll do one for American Beauty, too.

I love that Thelma show and bonus disc. I spent a few days in Yosemite this summer and could not stop listening to Thelma. It's perfect music for the great outdoors.

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I'll have to re-visit Rain in your honor :)
Drawing a blank on how that tune sounds.

Yeah, fingers x'd for Season 2 of the GOGD Deadcast soon.

And Thelma is a sweet one, I think it was UJB, HWAFOM, Alligator > Caution that Gans played in like '88.
Had never heard it and was just gob smacked.
Remember just wishing to know more about that tape and what else was on it.
I didn't hear about DeadBase until years later.

Bright spot.. it's been officially released and we all get to take it places and have it take us places.

See, the world could just be totally righteous and cool.

"What we're thinking about is a peaceful planet. We're not thinking about anything else. We're not thinking about any kind of power. We're not thinking about any kind of struggles. We're not thinking about revolution or war or any of that. That's not what we want."
Play The Dead!!

EDIT: Try to find some ways to ease the fright
Burn into the night

I remember now! :)

PS - Believe Sunrise is for Rex Jackson

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and of course, "we would all just like to live an uncluttered life, a simple life, a good life...."
- love that quote

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Shakedown Street baby! Have not heard France in my God, at least over 20 years, but I am sure I could come up with the lyrics. Did they ever play France live? Maybe once?

Who has a pick for tomorrow? Otis? Where have you been?
Send us a good pick.

Be well folks and hang loose.

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8/30 & 8/31 Red Rocks feel like a sampler of what would become Shakedown Street
It's been a cool listen.

And I don't think they ever played France live, there is that rehearsals tape but outside of that, I think it's only the studio version.
A rarity.

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Ain't that Clementine something else?! Those lyrics are kind of hard to understand. Jerry singing about chopped olive sandwiches, lol.