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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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May 12, 2022 - 7:41am

#2211

DeadVikes

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6/14/80

Enjoyed this show as well. What always amazes me about the audience recordings is the constant clapping and yelling out song requests. Such rabid fans, love it. Love these early versions of Far from me and a Big Railroad Blues. Nice Estimated Eyes and Lost Sailor SOC out of Drums . Great finish. Thanks for the pick OB.
Makes me want that Baked Alaskan Box Set.
My #42 finally arrived yesterday, so I have this going now. Sounding great so far, the Grateful, Grateful Dead.
Have a good one out there.
May 12, 2022 - 5:24am

#2212

JimInMD

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1968 - Never Disappoints

1/20/68 is a new one for me. Jerry's vocal and guitar contributions are stunning.

Clementine
I don't know why, but this song gives me goosebumps. Perhaps because I cannot figure out the songs meaning and the melodies take on a mystical quality. Performed three times with three studio attempts and then dropped.

New Potato
Just love this song, always have. Frantic ending jam on this one and the ending crescendo is spot on, great segue into...

Born Cross Eyed
The sound of thick air. Another great tune off Anthem. Short but powerful.

Followed by a nice 12 minute Jam and three minutes of Dark Star before a reel flip

What's here is great, what was on the reels that did not survive, we will never know. Whatever we missed.. I have to think it was epic.
May 11, 2022 - 2:19pm

#2213

Oroborous

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1/20/68

On a roll so how bout a quicky for extra credit?
This is another off of Dave’s list, so perhaps there’s more of it in the vault?
In the mean time, it’s Miller time!

6/14/80: another solid 80 show. Checked out the Miller for the first set and the Nitecat for the second, both sounded great! After hearing several 80 shows it’s funny/interesting how Jerry is still struggling a bit with Saint. He hasn’t quite found his solo groove yet. I remember Phil sorta same thing with Playing in 71. You don’t always catch this stuff but when I did most of 71 in a row last year it was fascinating to follow how certain players on certain songs sometimes take awhile to find “it”, what becomes their regular line on a song.
With Saint I don’t think it’s just a muff as I’ve noticed it on several versions. Cool sheet!

All good things…Jimbo
Don’t think the archive is going anywhere ; )

PS, I do still have my cassette tapes DV. Thought I might try to do something with it being first gen FM and utilizing the ML 9600, but it’s just to chopped up and with the archive not really worth the effort : (

EDIT: yowsa! Truly hope there’s more of 1/20/68 in the vault. That was a major tease!
Levels a tad hot, but from what little there is you can just tell this was a hot show.
Haven’t heard Clementine in awhile, very ABBesgue.
May 11, 2022 - 10:52am

#2214

JimInMD

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Re:

Full sounding audience, powerful Stanger to open the second set.

I'm treading water here, mostly keeping up and poised to get ahead of the game once more.
May 11, 2022 - 9:46am

#2215

DeadVikes

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6/14/80

That would be a Roger OB, Spokane WA, 6/14/80, let's do it.
May 11, 2022 - 9:26am

#2216

Oroborous

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Priorities my man

Yes, it was a decent set up for the times, old but clean and powerful. Big old woofers to quell the Philistine!
But hey, I lived at home again, free, had a 16 year old car, kick ass Bass and rig, and not much else! Which I’d do it all the same again, priorities my man, priorities!

6/21/89: as I stated, been growing on me over the years. 89 summer tour is a high bar to compare too, so I still feel like it’s more middle to back of the pack, but a good, interesting/different show to be sure. And yes DV I agree, CC gets better as things get going, especially songs that are more blues based i.e., Lovelight.
Thought the pull sounded really good, even on what I’m listening on at work. (iPad >>> Integra AVR >>> Sonance ceiling speakers)

So, since no one’s ventured a pickus, howsa bouta another Nitecat: 6/14/80 Spokane?
I know DV is always down with some 80!
May 10, 2022 - 4:15pm

#2217

Gary Farseer

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Ahh OB

Wan:

I need to research your stereo set-up sounds excellent. I saw 9 shows at the Greek. Years and years later, it surprised me that the Greek was where I saw the most shows, followed by a lot of venues with multiple years/shows.

My pay-per-view of 1989 solstice is free of any interuptions and sound very very good. Did they use this on a Shakedown Stream? If they did, I went, sad but can't remember...that stinks. I did the PPV alone at home, highly medicated...
May 10, 2022 - 1:50pm

#2218

DeadVikes

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6/21/89

I must have missed this when it was a Shakedown Stream. I will have to go back and find it. Do you still have your recording OB? I think we finally disposed of your VCR maybe five years ago.
Hey, this is a good show and recording. Good first set, Hideaway, Box of Rain! I enjoyed Clearance in the second set especially towards the end with Morning Dew, Lovelight and the Brokedown Palace encore.
May 10, 2022 - 9:29am

#2219

Oroborous

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Lesson for the day my son

Don’t take any wooden nickels…

(OB, Oro, whatevs, just don’t call me late for supper!)

Then,
Play Dead!
6/21/89: I remember watching this on pay per view with my young cousin, sneaking outside to “check the air in the tires” with such a youngin lol.
So FM simulcast watching on the tiny little tv I owned at the time as I wasn’t much into tv in those days, but with Big XR 7 speakers, powered by C 28/MC 2300 combo. I still have the tape I made, which unfortunately had too many of those annoying station IDs at the worst possible times! That and some bad tape flips etc. and I think I dozed off for a couple minutes near the end or something?
I was so bummed, but it did sound awesome!
The show itself I used to feel was sub par comparatively, no offense to anyone. It seemed like Bob was having a hard time getting it together for a while and Clarence to me was a distraction more than a sweetener? Honestly never felt any of these sit in guys added that much. That’s not a knock on the Big man or any of the guests, it’s just hard to play with the dead since their so unique in everyway. So to have to try and get inside with them couldn’t have been easy for “normal” musicians. I do really like CC on that Garcialive release from Popular Creek 89!! Think it was a lot easier for him in that format.

But over the years this show has grown on me, though compared to the rest of that awesome summer tour I still would rank it lower. But hey that’s like comparing an entry level Ferrari to top of the line: it’s still a Ferrari!
I think seeing it again on Shakedown Stream led me to a new understanding, like many shows over the years, so that I have a new perspective about it. So though Ive heard this one a lot, a new Healy/Miller is catalyst enough to give er a spin.
And yes Gary, Shoreline or the garbage heap as it’s know, is a pretty cool venue. Bill Gram of course made sure there was ample ways for you to spend money, so it does sorta have that Shakedown vibe, only inside the venue.
I still liked Cal X better though it was more bare bones and beat up. Something about the whole Cal X layout etc.
But alas, no Frost or Greek for me either : (
So nothing to it but to do it,
Rolling!
May 9, 2022 - 4:35pm

#2220

Gary Farseer

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Dave

Have chimed up that I wish Dave would give the Shoreline Pay-per-view an official release. I have my old VHS tapes of the event. Usually watch the youtube instead ogatesf the tapes. But there is almost an hour of deleted footage. They start off by showing what it was like going thru the gates, and the strict security (yeah right). Maybe BTK could shed some light here as I have never been to Shoreline, huge mistake. Still would have preferred a Frost show. Any way, the area around the amphitheater is large enough to allow for a Shakedown Street within the gates of Shoreline. So there is a lot of footage of people shopping. Think I remember a prankster sitting there playing Deal on a lute during set-break. The Deal to close the first set is still my favorite. I think the next Deal was the Alpine "Down Hill from Here" which was about 2 weeks later. Great contrast between those 2 deals.

Come On Dave, give us a break. Release it. Or maybe meet up at the movies and then release.

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1974 Chop Shop

I am at an impasse with some of the partially released 74 shows.. I think I need to reconstruct the full shows using pieces of the official releases and supplement any missing parts from the best available source.

What were they thinking???

Edit: David Lemieux as a kid.. "Look at all these reels.. I bet we can releases dozens and dozens of songs...."

Chop job redemption

Plangentize and Normanize those ‘74 reels, and Box ‘em up, PNW style.

9/10/74 Alexandra Palace finished

Already on the end of set one of 9/11/74, Playing just started...23 minutes to end the first set. Then a 41minute Phil & Ned where a big chunk is with the band before going into a great Eyes of the World into Wharf Rat... (44 minutes of Eyes and Wharf Rat) .. 108 minutes of jazzy, jammed pure 74 bliss. bob t

9/11/74

That long jammy section with Ned is niiiice. I wasn't even aware of it before. Good call BobT and Daverock.

Missing These Picks..

and who could ask for more than another 1974.

I am not listening to the composites of these again though.. I want to rebuild the complete shows.

1974

some of my favorite releases back in the day were the 1974 multi-show highlight releases, and of course same goes for DiP 4 Fillmore East. Still find them solid and very enjoyable. however - i definitely would like to see full show releases of those shows barring any significant reel issues.

Bluecrow Hat Trick - continuous deep listen to all three discs in a single release. much as I can ask for nowadays.

prayers to fire affected brothers and sisters out in California, Oregon, & Washington - heartbreaking

American Reality

Loading up the phone with the Dead, putting all of 1972 on now.

Do some rain dances & send some good vibes towards the west coast.

We need all the help we can get.

Be Well All

Any one up for some William and Mary.... 9/11/73

Dark Star>Morning Dew included!!! I finished the last Alexandra Palace show (9/11/74), favorite of the 3 shows. I know this September 73 tour isn't everyone's favorite because of the horns, but I like them... Have a great weekend. Bob t

Mickey Hart 77th birthday

Always enjoyed his work, in and out of the Grateful Dead, all around, the faster we go the rounder we get. Rolling Thunder, Diga Rhythm Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dead and Company. Prolific musician and workingman.
Excited about upgraded Betty Cantor recording of 2/18/71. Also when American Beauty was released my old friend Jimi tripped out on the lettering on the cover. Was the first person I remember to see “American Reality”. More than we ever dreamed it would become , reality.

9/11/73

Never heard this one. I will check it out Bob t. Thanks.

By The Way

Where in the hell is Bolo? It has been a long time.

And Otis?

GOGD, did you find a complete listing of the 375 reels from ABCD?

9/11/73

To my ears, perhaps the best of the fall '73 mini tour with horns. Definitely worth a listen. Might not be the most popular release if it were to ever see the light of day, but well worth the listen. I am right there with BobT, an enjoyable and noteworthy show from an enjoyable and noteworthy tour.

I'm paying the 3 dollars and coming back for the next night!!

To quote Phil and the end of Sugar Magnolia, from the 9/11/73 show..Morning everyone, I'm going to listen to 9/12/73 William and Mary... Bob t

3 Dollars

Grap me a ticket too Bob.. I'll pick you up in a couple hours.

I’ll throw one out

9-12-91
Anniversary yesterday

9/12/91

PITB > Terrapin > PITB sandwich
I'm in!

Funny, I was just listening to So Many Roads comp disc 1 as I hadn't heard it in forever and was putting all GD releases on my phone in case we had to split.

BTW anybody got the 9/26/90 GD rehearsals that D Gans put on the Best of the GD Hour sampler CD?
Jam Out of Terrapin > PITB
I'd like to hear that there stuff, got the Hornsby stuff from 9/28 but never heard the above.

DV: No ABCD list as far as I can tell, but there's a nice list of Betty Boards in one of the Taper's Compendiums, I'll have to look for it when I have a minute.

Alright, Be Well All.
And that TLMD outtake on So Many Roads is worth visiting the next time you get a minute.
Sublime stuff.

I'm In

Giving them a try.. thanks cone kid.

9/12/91 I'm in

just finishing up concert where Phil says "this is the quiet part folks".... bob t

I’m a big fan of Fall ‘91

In fact, I like the whole Hornsby era.

But a Fall ‘91 Box would be cool.
Oakland?
MSG?
Boston?

Which to choose?
May have to draw straws.

Keeping with the 90’s theme

Now spinning a Vguy show, 5-31-92 Sam Boyd

9/12/91

I will check it out. A little MSG. Thanks Conekid. Yes, 91 certainly shines. A lot of great shows.

Oh and it is a Pearson Healy recording, even better.

Thanks for looking into that GOGD. Hope everything goes okay for you out there.

Stay well folks.

91

Agree, most of 91 decently recorded for the most part. Oft maligned, but not deservedly so. Bruce brought a lot of energy and in some ways brought Garcia back to life.

Keeping the 90’s alive

Since the CD-R case in my living room containing 90’s shows I burned more than 10 years ago is open, I tossed in 3-30-94.
The ScarletFirePlayingDarkStar is awesome and worthy of official release.

DHB Friendly Two Day Bickershaw?

Something different and something good. Since it's such a long show, two discs a day should suffice.

Thoughts?

Jim 5/7/72

Jim, I would be in on that but I don't have this show.

Still working my way through 9/12/91. Great show, great recording.

I'm gonna throw in a wild card....

....Mickey Harts Mystery Box.

5/7/72

I don't know what you are doing out there but is smells rotten! Great show Jim, good call. Thanks Man!

Happy Anniversary 9/16/72 Boston Music Hall

How I wish more than 8 songs existed on SB..... At least there is a Playin, Morning Dew, Dark>Star into Brokedown Palace, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA... bob t

Today's Pick

Decided to go with 3/24/73, Dave's Picks #32 for today. Of course it is 73.

Are we something like a month away from #36? My god, time is moving fast this year and very slow.

9/16/72

I might have to hit this one tonight.. as always, thanks Bob.

Partial or not.. looks hot.

9/16/72

Nice pick. I'm not too familiar with this show. Well, it seems a couple folks on the archive claim this Dark Star is one of the greatest of all time. You never really know, do you?! I'm listening to a matrix now. The live music shutdown has given me a new appreciation for audience tapes.

GSTEP....

...."Greatest Dark Star Ever Played."
I have no idea. Most are above average. So there you go.

9/16/72

Big Fan of this show!

IMO top 5 PITB as well as Dark Star.
Well worth the Trip.

This was my goto Bike Ride show for awhile, worked every time!
It's a traveler, and it'll take you places.

Def one of my favorite 1972 shows.

GOGD

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Were losing a bit of steam here.

There Ain't No Place I'd Rather Be

Won't You Carry Meeeeeeee!

Couldn't resist.

Thanks DV, been glancing in, but there's been just a few distractions. (insert eyeroll, face palm, the scream etc)

Meant to praise 9/16/72 yesterday, (nice work Bob T!)
Definitely check out the partial SBD portion, it's one of my personal favorites for sure.

If anybody has the FLAC files of the SBD easily accessible and wants me to patch that transition between Dark Star & Brokedown send em over, I've wanted to do that for awhile, but only have the Mp3 files.

Alright, be well all, and keep it goin', this is a fun little place to visit :)

Dave's 32

Finished my third or fourth listen of this gem. I love how some releases seem to get better with each listen and this one fits that bill. The whole show rocks, so many highlights. As others have mentioned Disc 3 is very special. The He's Gone-Truckin-Jam-Dark Star into the final three songs are just awesome.

Yes, #32,#33 and #34 are pretty sweet. Looking forward to what Dave has in store for #36. Okay, my money is going with 72 or April 78.

Stay well all.

36

Have to think it will be either 69, 72 or perhaps spring '78.

...what's on for today?

Dave's Picks

DV - Yeah, as far as GD releases, we're in the golden age!

FWIW I still think we'll see a Pigpen Era release for DaP V36 circa '68-'70. Most likely '69.

Alright, I know the following for certain:
I'm jonesing to find out if I'm right or wrong :)

Announced in October right? Any theories on the date of the announcement ;)

10/17/82 possibly?

Hi Ya Jim!

Anybody wanna check out the new eBay Audience source of 10/17/82 that just got posted on archive?
https://archive.org/details/gd1982-10-17.150574.eBay.miller.flac2496

I wanna check it out at some point.

Just an idea since you were asking for a pick.

I was going to recommend Vegas 5.30.92 for today....

....but 10.17.82 works. It's Santa Fe!!. Strange show that was just a one off apparently. No tour to support it. Eleven song first set! Let's goooooo!!

82 or 92

VGUY - Either is cool w me!

I don't think I listened to the Pearson Upgrade of 5/30/92 either.

Too Much Dead Bros!!!

EDIT: 10/17/82 it is, look at that set list bro!
Post Space> Throwin'> GDTRFB> Wheel> Other One> Wharf Rat> Good Lovin'. Who does that?
The GD in '82 that's who!
We can do 5/30/92 tomorrow.

So Far...

Here’s what’s been released so far...

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 27 / #8
69: 2 / 25 / #10
81: 1 / 15 / #20
78: 3 / 12 / #23
72: 3 / 11 / #24
71: 3 / 9 / #26
83: 1 / 8 / #27
76: 3 / 7 / #28
70: 2 / 5 / #30
79: 1 / 4 / #31
73: 4 / 3/ #32
77: 5 / 2/ #33
74: 5 / 1 / #34
84: 1 / - / #35

80 is past due, what about Gainesville? Course that’s not happen with the fourth pick...
69 is past due! Good bet except I don’t think they’ll go for fourth pick...
81, same as above..
So that leaves 72 and 78. I’m going with 78.
Of course there never seems to be enough 77...
Some day you’d think we’d get a 91, but not fourth pick...

GOGD Announcement dates

Last year #32 was announced on 22nd October and the 2020 subscription was announced on 30th October.
My guess would be 20th October for #36.

DaP V36 Announcement Dates

CG - Damn!
That's more than a month....

This pandemic is really warping time.
I didn't realize a pandemic could be so psychedelic, but I've definitely been tripping since March.

Good Stuff and nice sleuthing. I appreciate it, even if it spiked my jones.

Jeez, lotsa drug references ;)

OB - I'ma gonna grok on that there hypiothesissss thingy there for a minute. Nice work bro.

I still call Pigpen era!

Oroborous-1980

Yes, 1980 is of course extremely underrepresented, don't get me started on that. No idea what they are doing with 1980.

I think they will give us the heads up announcement the week before the seaside chat on October 20. Release date is October 30, which usually means I should have mine by November 15.

Dave's 36

10/31/69, if not now, when.

September 72 east coast tour

Never have done this before, but on 3rd show of tour today, 9/17/72 Baltimore.... (Dicks Picks something)... started with the Boston show back on the 14th on Monday... bob t

RE: September 72 East Coast Tour

You probably already thought of this, but it seems like 10/2/72 should get included too.

I wanna do that.
Best Part: Playing In The Band on every show!!!!

Sept '72 is some epic stuff.

Said it before, but I think '72 is my fave year.

Europe box announcement got me back into collecting the Dead after like 10 year hiatus.
After Europe box was released '72 was the first year that I collected all existing shows for.

Kinda envious there Bob T, gonna have to follow your lead one these here days.
Enjoy!

I'm listening to...
A tutorial.
Knowledge is good, but envy is not.

Re: Nov 15th

...of what year? :D

Fall '72. Interesting idea.. I've done E72 in sequence a couple times. The last time I did it.. I had to break out into a different era for a palate cleanse.

Did anyone commit to something for today?

Today's Listening Choices

Jim -

VGUY and I are checking out 10/17/82 - New Miller Audience (might not be as good as the other audience.. not sure what I think yet, anyhow it just popped up)
Also mentioned 5/30/92 (possibly tomorrow though)
Bob T - Going deep with September '72 tour journey.

November what year = Doh!