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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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February 8, 2021 - 6:28am

#4571

rockthing

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STRIDER: 2/18/71 is one of…

STRIDER: 2/18/71 is one of my all time favorite tapes.

Sorry for the double post.
February 8, 2021 - 6:26am

#4572

rockthing

Joined:
August 2, 2020

gd1973-05-15impressions

Starting to have a hard time figuring out which show I should be posting about, but I saw two clear references to this one, so here's my 2 cents.

Sampled the GEMS, and the newest full length (?) master, but sticking with the powell-ladner shn. Even this, despite the constant hiss, sounds like there is some sort of filter compression of some kind. Still, I’ll take a bit a hiss to the muffled fluctuations of the noise-reduced alternatives. I’ve spent enough time listening to Nth generation tapes and incredible shows in horrendous sound quality, that this is no problem.

First impressions, very crisp. This impression may be enhanced by the compression of the tape source. Playin’ (not the song) is nice and crisp, too. Tight and professional as I’d expect from this era. Being an old soundboard it also feels kind of sparse without the air filling in the gaps, and the frequencies bouncing around off one another and blending in the venue. The isolation kind of feels lonely.

Ah, Box of Rain from back in the day. This is a treat.

Love that long, mellow Playin’ in the Band.

Been listening while doing work, so I’ll spare you the song by song impressions. Some of this is colored by the fact that I just listened to the raging Feb 6, ’69 Kiel show right before this.

Overall, low key, but solid, as I feel like I should expect from this period. Some interesting lyric alterations in a number of songs by both Jerry and Bobby. Early days in some cases, I think. Donna Jean seems to be fitting in nicely at this show, getting a bit more manic as the evening progresses, but seemingly in control of her voice. Fantastic set list. Casey Jones seems really early in the show. Love that little Jerry fill, Ga-get-get Ga-get-get, between vocal lines.

Right now checkin’ out this Greatest Story jam, which is something I’m not used to hearing. I was amazed when Jerry took a couple extra spacey choruses in the ’79 Goodbye to Keith and Donna show I wrote about most recently, but this is almost a certified jam, with Donna even piping in with some improvised vocal parts. Not sure I’ve ever heard a GSET get this far out… I mean, it’s not a Playin’ jam, but considering the song, this is pretty radical. Maybe I just haven’t heard enough of these early ones.

Good night to chill out and melt into your seat. Folding chairs and bleachers really would not cut it for the level of mellow they’re oozing out onto the crowd this lovely evening, though. I keep hearing some warm phaser-colored tones, but that may just be the condition of the tape. No, Bobby’s got some coloring effects on his guitar, I think.

My show, however, is interrupted before the He’s Gone jam gets going. Peeking at the set list now, mmmm… looking forward to continuation after a brief, but too long to post later because it seems like the topic will have changed, intermission.
February 8, 2021 - 6:21am

#4573

Strider 808808

Joined:
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Cassady / Cassidy

Today would have been the 95th birthday of Neal Cassady. Yesterday was three years since John Perry Barlow checked out. Barlow died 50 years and three days after Cassady checked out. (2/4/68)
But all those cars Neal stole as a youth I can’t help but think, Neal Cassady didn’t die , he stole another body.
I’m giving Grateful Dead music a rest until February 18th, going to throw in my bid for 2/18/71 on its 50th anniversary. Excellent music should never be abused and relegated to background music. Smoking Ganga nonstop will send a person into the netherworld. Not stoned, not clear minded. Maybe dulled senses. Coastal fog. I try to keep my wits honed to a fine edge. CBD salve for pain is a different story.
February 7, 2021 - 7:10pm

#4574

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

11 20 78

Taaaaaasty
February 7, 2021 - 3:41pm

#4575

bob t

Joined:
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5/13/73 Des Moines...Nice Call Good Ole....

I think this one could end up in a May 1973 Box.... I haven't looked at the time length on all 3 of the shows but Kezar would have a tough time fitting on 3 Discs... So I don't see how it gets a Dave's release. But it you join them with 5/13/73 Des Moines and 5/20/73 . The sound clarity of the Betty Kezar show in my opinion is right there with 6/14 &15 1976 Beacons... Oh well.. Lots of snow here today in Rhode Island... Bob t
February 7, 2021 - 3:03pm

#4576

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

I like Drums/Space

The weirder the better.
February 7, 2021 - 11:27am

#4577

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

I’m going 3/21/92

Decent sounding Miller....
Was @, but never heard, so why not.

AFTERWORD:
Glad I finally checked this one out. Kinda typical for the era; overall good, but, not, quite, iiiiitttt!
Set 2A seemed a bit subdued? Decent first set if not a tad brief...Awesome midi/space weirdness if your into that kinda thing. Decent set 2B with the BP being the highlight...
Remember really diggin space at these shows and Candace had what to us (me and the “20” year old), to be a giant amoeba, slowing inching across the ?upper seats behind the stage. We had great vantage being opposite, direct center from stage, in the lower section of upper , I think?
But both nights I believe she gave us that ole warm fuzzy glow during these big weirdness jams.
Like trippin without lol. 3/20/92 is definitely way better, but this one like many for us the last couple years, could be a bit subdued, with great moments, and awesome drumzspace....
February 7, 2021 - 11:07am

#4578

Strider 808808

Joined:
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Turtle Island / Terrapin!!

Gary Snyder is 90 years old. Lawrence Ferlinghetti is 101. City Lights Bookstore in North Beach,San Francisco is such an awesome landmark and legacy. My last trip to the Bay Area was to attend the 50th anniversary of the occupation of Alcatraz. After being out on “the Rock” all day with my old friend Jeff we walked from the waterfront up through North Beach and stopped at City Lights and lo and behold a poetry reading was going to happen that night with the great beat poet and translator of Native American languages, Jerome Rothenberg. It was a wonderful reading. They also asked the audience to turn off cellphones.
Gary Snyder has always been a role model for me since first meeting him in Missoula in 1978. Really it was a few months earlier reading his book “The Old Ways” 1977. I once brought his oldest best friend Nanao to a Dead show in Oakland 2/14/86.
There used to be an amazing literary group that met in San Francisco in the 80s at a place called Cloud House run by Kush. Kush was a great recordist of poetry readings in the Bay Area. His video work is priceless and should be preserved. Really the same is true for the old Merry Prankster/ Acid Test film that seems to fade from view and availability. A shame really. But alas as the old Prankster saying goes , “nothing lasts”. Really the same is true with our grandparents and elders who may have amazing stories to share. Seek them out. Maybe interview them with audio or video. The beats are checking out fast with the original hippies not far behind. And fewer everyday.
I like the tall tale connection to mythology in regards to the Paul Bunyon story. Some of the “jacks” at the Oregon Pavilion in 64/65 were from northern Michigan, Jim Ogle and family. I became friends with his kids. But the stories I share really happened. My sister worked at the Simmons Pavilion across from the Oregon Pavilion. She had a lot of class but not always a lot of money. Hard working and creative.
So when I followed up my first Bay Area visit with my sister in Sausalito and first west coast Dead shows 8/14,15/71 I hitch-hiked up to Oregon to visit my brother. It was that first experience of visiting Oregon that summer that I was determined to leave the confines of a Connecticut and New York upbringing to pursue a western reality and life.
Read Lew Welsh “The Song That Mount Tamalpais Sings”. It describes the post World War 2 San Francisco Poetry Renaissance and the western movement of youth into the 60s.
Now what the hell does all this have to do with Pick of the Day.
Looking forward to to the 50th anniversaries of the famed Capitol Theater February 1971 concerts.
“There were days
And there were days
And there were days between
Summer flies and August dies....”
February 7, 2021 - 9:23am

#4579

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
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Sometimes A Great Notion

I like strawberry-rhubarb pie for breakfast, Ken Kesey & Jack Kerouac novels, collecting lossless Grateful Dead bootlegs and long strolls in the moonlight.

Sounds like a good dating profile :)

Whatever those are.

I think I've been in isolation too long.

Dig the raps you all.

Sounds like some peeps are in the polar vortex today.

Our winter has been non-existent.

Listening to 5/13/73 this AM. This Monster sure could use some love from the powers that be.
Set 1 & 2 have some major hiss factor (2 sources have tried to address this, but I'll stick with the hiss)
Set 3 partial is pretty crispy and what a trip it is! Not sure how strange, but it's long.
14 minute He's Gone > 13 minute Truckin' > 19 minute Other One > 16 minute Eyes = 62 minutes of Good Stuff

Check it out Yo's!

I just wanted to say hi ya and to tell you to all to keep up the good work.
February 7, 2021 - 8:46am

#4580

bluecrow

Joined:
September 21, 2015

the '64 World's Fair Oregon Pavilion?

Strider - that's not a tall tale your telling? located a ways off from the rest of the states along the river so they could demonstrate log rolling, among the many logging feats/competition. giant Paul Bunyan at the entrance. Funny but as a Midwesterner I always associated Paul Bunyan with the woods of Minnesota. I can't help but think of pole climbing competition and certain Puebloan feast days where a pole is featured.

yes all those guys influenced me deeply, but in the end it was Snyder that had the most profound affect and the one that I still turn too on a regular basis. certainly an integral part of my ending up in love and drawn to the West while growing up in the Chi-town suburbs. feel real lucky to end up where I have.

I'll go back to Cold Mountain several times a year. And by chance just yesterday noticed Axe Handles by the couch and discovered anew some of Little Songs for Gaia - "bodies of water tuned to the sky." Smokey the Bear Sutra read aloud at least once a year.

Looks like nobody else was up for strawberry-rhubarb pie for breakfast. I had a fun listen and it set the tone for a pretty out there relaxed day. beautiful day here again. headed out now to the wide open with my sweetie and my doggle woggle.

be safe and enjoy the day everyone.

onward!

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

1974 Chop Shop

I am at an impasse with some of the partially released 74 shows.. I think I need to reconstruct the full shows using pieces of the official releases and supplement any missing parts from the best available source.

What were they thinking???

Edit: David Lemieux as a kid.. "Look at all these reels.. I bet we can releases dozens and dozens of songs...."

Chop job redemption

Plangentize and Normanize those ‘74 reels, and Box ‘em up, PNW style.

9/10/74 Alexandra Palace finished

Already on the end of set one of 9/11/74, Playing just started...23 minutes to end the first set. Then a 41minute Phil & Ned where a big chunk is with the band before going into a great Eyes of the World into Wharf Rat... (44 minutes of Eyes and Wharf Rat) .. 108 minutes of jazzy, jammed pure 74 bliss. bob t

9/11/74

That long jammy section with Ned is niiiice. I wasn't even aware of it before. Good call BobT and Daverock.

Missing These Picks..

and who could ask for more than another 1974.

I am not listening to the composites of these again though.. I want to rebuild the complete shows.

1974

some of my favorite releases back in the day were the 1974 multi-show highlight releases, and of course same goes for DiP 4 Fillmore East. Still find them solid and very enjoyable. however - i definitely would like to see full show releases of those shows barring any significant reel issues.

Bluecrow Hat Trick - continuous deep listen to all three discs in a single release. much as I can ask for nowadays.

prayers to fire affected brothers and sisters out in California, Oregon, & Washington - heartbreaking

American Reality

Loading up the phone with the Dead, putting all of 1972 on now.

Do some rain dances & send some good vibes towards the west coast.

We need all the help we can get.

Be Well All

Any one up for some William and Mary.... 9/11/73

Dark Star>Morning Dew included!!! I finished the last Alexandra Palace show (9/11/74), favorite of the 3 shows. I know this September 73 tour isn't everyone's favorite because of the horns, but I like them... Have a great weekend. Bob t

Mickey Hart 77th birthday

Always enjoyed his work, in and out of the Grateful Dead, all around, the faster we go the rounder we get. Rolling Thunder, Diga Rhythm Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Dead and Company. Prolific musician and workingman.
Excited about upgraded Betty Cantor recording of 2/18/71. Also when American Beauty was released my old friend Jimi tripped out on the lettering on the cover. Was the first person I remember to see “American Reality”. More than we ever dreamed it would become , reality.

9/11/73

Never heard this one. I will check it out Bob t. Thanks.

By The Way

Where in the hell is Bolo? It has been a long time.

And Otis?

GOGD, did you find a complete listing of the 375 reels from ABCD?

9/11/73

To my ears, perhaps the best of the fall '73 mini tour with horns. Definitely worth a listen. Might not be the most popular release if it were to ever see the light of day, but well worth the listen. I am right there with BobT, an enjoyable and noteworthy show from an enjoyable and noteworthy tour.

I'm paying the 3 dollars and coming back for the next night!!

To quote Phil and the end of Sugar Magnolia, from the 9/11/73 show..Morning everyone, I'm going to listen to 9/12/73 William and Mary... Bob t

3 Dollars

Grap me a ticket too Bob.. I'll pick you up in a couple hours.

I’ll throw one out

9-12-91
Anniversary yesterday

9/12/91

PITB > Terrapin > PITB sandwich
I'm in!

Funny, I was just listening to So Many Roads comp disc 1 as I hadn't heard it in forever and was putting all GD releases on my phone in case we had to split.

BTW anybody got the 9/26/90 GD rehearsals that D Gans put on the Best of the GD Hour sampler CD?
Jam Out of Terrapin > PITB
I'd like to hear that there stuff, got the Hornsby stuff from 9/28 but never heard the above.

DV: No ABCD list as far as I can tell, but there's a nice list of Betty Boards in one of the Taper's Compendiums, I'll have to look for it when I have a minute.

Alright, Be Well All.
And that TLMD outtake on So Many Roads is worth visiting the next time you get a minute.
Sublime stuff.

I'm In

Giving them a try.. thanks cone kid.

9/12/91 I'm in

just finishing up concert where Phil says "this is the quiet part folks".... bob t

I’m a big fan of Fall ‘91

In fact, I like the whole Hornsby era.

But a Fall ‘91 Box would be cool.
Oakland?
MSG?
Boston?

Which to choose?
May have to draw straws.

Keeping with the 90’s theme

Now spinning a Vguy show, 5-31-92 Sam Boyd

9/12/91

I will check it out. A little MSG. Thanks Conekid. Yes, 91 certainly shines. A lot of great shows.

Oh and it is a Pearson Healy recording, even better.

Thanks for looking into that GOGD. Hope everything goes okay for you out there.

Stay well folks.

91

Agree, most of 91 decently recorded for the most part. Oft maligned, but not deservedly so. Bruce brought a lot of energy and in some ways brought Garcia back to life.

Keeping the 90’s alive

Since the CD-R case in my living room containing 90’s shows I burned more than 10 years ago is open, I tossed in 3-30-94.
The ScarletFirePlayingDarkStar is awesome and worthy of official release.

DHB Friendly Two Day Bickershaw?

Something different and something good. Since it's such a long show, two discs a day should suffice.

Thoughts?

Jim 5/7/72

Jim, I would be in on that but I don't have this show.

Still working my way through 9/12/91. Great show, great recording.

I'm gonna throw in a wild card....

....Mickey Harts Mystery Box.

5/7/72

I don't know what you are doing out there but is smells rotten! Great show Jim, good call. Thanks Man!

Happy Anniversary 9/16/72 Boston Music Hall

How I wish more than 8 songs existed on SB..... At least there is a Playin, Morning Dew, Dark>Star into Brokedown Palace, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA... bob t

Today's Pick

Decided to go with 3/24/73, Dave's Picks #32 for today. Of course it is 73.

Are we something like a month away from #36? My god, time is moving fast this year and very slow.

9/16/72

I might have to hit this one tonight.. as always, thanks Bob.

Partial or not.. looks hot.

9/16/72

Nice pick. I'm not too familiar with this show. Well, it seems a couple folks on the archive claim this Dark Star is one of the greatest of all time. You never really know, do you?! I'm listening to a matrix now. The live music shutdown has given me a new appreciation for audience tapes.

GSTEP....

...."Greatest Dark Star Ever Played."
I have no idea. Most are above average. So there you go.

9/16/72

Big Fan of this show!

IMO top 5 PITB as well as Dark Star.
Well worth the Trip.

This was my goto Bike Ride show for awhile, worked every time!
It's a traveler, and it'll take you places.

Def one of my favorite 1972 shows.

GOGD

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Were losing a bit of steam here.

There Ain't No Place I'd Rather Be

Won't You Carry Meeeeeeee!

Couldn't resist.

Thanks DV, been glancing in, but there's been just a few distractions. (insert eyeroll, face palm, the scream etc)

Meant to praise 9/16/72 yesterday, (nice work Bob T!)
Definitely check out the partial SBD portion, it's one of my personal favorites for sure.

If anybody has the FLAC files of the SBD easily accessible and wants me to patch that transition between Dark Star & Brokedown send em over, I've wanted to do that for awhile, but only have the Mp3 files.

Alright, be well all, and keep it goin', this is a fun little place to visit :)

Dave's 32

Finished my third or fourth listen of this gem. I love how some releases seem to get better with each listen and this one fits that bill. The whole show rocks, so many highlights. As others have mentioned Disc 3 is very special. The He's Gone-Truckin-Jam-Dark Star into the final three songs are just awesome.

Yes, #32,#33 and #34 are pretty sweet. Looking forward to what Dave has in store for #36. Okay, my money is going with 72 or April 78.

Stay well all.

36

Have to think it will be either 69, 72 or perhaps spring '78.

...what's on for today?

Dave's Picks

DV - Yeah, as far as GD releases, we're in the golden age!

FWIW I still think we'll see a Pigpen Era release for DaP V36 circa '68-'70. Most likely '69.

Alright, I know the following for certain:
I'm jonesing to find out if I'm right or wrong :)

Announced in October right? Any theories on the date of the announcement ;)

10/17/82 possibly?

Hi Ya Jim!

Anybody wanna check out the new eBay Audience source of 10/17/82 that just got posted on archive?
https://archive.org/details/gd1982-10-17.150574.eBay.miller.flac2496

I wanna check it out at some point.

Just an idea since you were asking for a pick.

I was going to recommend Vegas 5.30.92 for today....

....but 10.17.82 works. It's Santa Fe!!. Strange show that was just a one off apparently. No tour to support it. Eleven song first set! Let's goooooo!!

82 or 92

VGUY - Either is cool w me!

I don't think I listened to the Pearson Upgrade of 5/30/92 either.

Too Much Dead Bros!!!

EDIT: 10/17/82 it is, look at that set list bro!
Post Space> Throwin'> GDTRFB> Wheel> Other One> Wharf Rat> Good Lovin'. Who does that?
The GD in '82 that's who!
We can do 5/30/92 tomorrow.

So Far...

Here’s what’s been released so far...

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
(First #) = Year:
(2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
(3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
(4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

80: 1 / 27 / #8
69: 2 / 25 / #10
81: 1 / 15 / #20
78: 3 / 12 / #23
72: 3 / 11 / #24
71: 3 / 9 / #26
83: 1 / 8 / #27
76: 3 / 7 / #28
70: 2 / 5 / #30
79: 1 / 4 / #31
73: 4 / 3/ #32
77: 5 / 2/ #33
74: 5 / 1 / #34
84: 1 / - / #35

80 is past due, what about Gainesville? Course that’s not happen with the fourth pick...
69 is past due! Good bet except I don’t think they’ll go for fourth pick...
81, same as above..
So that leaves 72 and 78. I’m going with 78.
Of course there never seems to be enough 77...
Some day you’d think we’d get a 91, but not fourth pick...

GOGD Announcement dates

Last year #32 was announced on 22nd October and the 2020 subscription was announced on 30th October.
My guess would be 20th October for #36.

DaP V36 Announcement Dates

CG - Damn!
That's more than a month....

This pandemic is really warping time.
I didn't realize a pandemic could be so psychedelic, but I've definitely been tripping since March.

Good Stuff and nice sleuthing. I appreciate it, even if it spiked my jones.

Jeez, lotsa drug references ;)

OB - I'ma gonna grok on that there hypiothesissss thingy there for a minute. Nice work bro.

I still call Pigpen era!

Oroborous-1980

Yes, 1980 is of course extremely underrepresented, don't get me started on that. No idea what they are doing with 1980.

I think they will give us the heads up announcement the week before the seaside chat on October 20. Release date is October 30, which usually means I should have mine by November 15.

Dave's 36

10/31/69, if not now, when.

September 72 east coast tour

Never have done this before, but on 3rd show of tour today, 9/17/72 Baltimore.... (Dicks Picks something)... started with the Boston show back on the 14th on Monday... bob t

RE: September 72 East Coast Tour

You probably already thought of this, but it seems like 10/2/72 should get included too.

I wanna do that.
Best Part: Playing In The Band on every show!!!!

Sept '72 is some epic stuff.

Said it before, but I think '72 is my fave year.

Europe box announcement got me back into collecting the Dead after like 10 year hiatus.
After Europe box was released '72 was the first year that I collected all existing shows for.

Kinda envious there Bob T, gonna have to follow your lead one these here days.
Enjoy!

I'm listening to...
A tutorial.
Knowledge is good, but envy is not.

Re: Nov 15th

...of what year? :D

Fall '72. Interesting idea.. I've done E72 in sequence a couple times. The last time I did it.. I had to break out into a different era for a palate cleanse.

Did anyone commit to something for today?

Today's Listening Choices

Jim -

VGUY and I are checking out 10/17/82 - New Miller Audience (might not be as good as the other audience.. not sure what I think yet, anyhow it just popped up)
Also mentioned 5/30/92 (possibly tomorrow though)
Bob T - Going deep with September '72 tour journey.

November what year = Doh!