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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 29, 2020 - 7:45am

#6661

Thats_Otis

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Warming up the Chocolate Spot...

... sounds kinda dirty when you put it that way, Oro... :)

Rock on!

Peace
June 29, 2020 - 7:09am

#6662

Oroborous

Joined:
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Otis

31, bring it!
Glad we got that Chocolate spot all warmed up for ya!
June 29, 2020 - 6:12am

#6663

Thats_Otis

Joined:
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@ Oroborous, DeadVikes, etc.

Thanks, my man! I think it sounds pretty sweet - especially that Shrine 67 LP release, played LOUD!

Your Hershey story is great! Really wish I would have been around during those times! I would have partied right down in the mud with you!

Not the same, but my first Phish show was at Hershey in 96. We too found a spot directly in front of the soundboard, figuring that it had to sound good there. To this day, my friends and I refer to that area at shows as "The Chocolate Spot."

DeadVikes, everything's a-ok on this end. Thanks for the thoughts!

So, are we on for Dave's 31 today?

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 9:31pm

#6664

DeadVikes

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Otis/Oroborous

Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?
June 28, 2020 - 9:27pm

#6665

Vguy72

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6.28.85 Hershey Park....

....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.
June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6666

wilfredtjones

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Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6667

Oroborous

Joined:
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6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6668

Thats_Otis

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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6669

Oroborous

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Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6670

bob t

Joined:
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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Wow Billy theKid 7/13/76!!!!

7/13/76 very happy you were there. I know you said you also saw the Bob Fried Memorial Boogie the year before!!! The soundcheck from the night before is actually on Youtube.. Great seats, do you remember how challenging it was to get tickets for that run??? Thanks bob t

BobT/ Orpheum tickets

The first place we went to, maybe Record Factory, was all sold out, so we went to this small place called Penninsula Box office, and they had three tickets, for the three of us . Two people came in right after us and bought the last two tickets. It was tight to get tickets, and we went as soon as they went on sale.

Orpheum & Santa Rosa Fairgrounds

Good Stuff, an upgrade of the 7/12/76 Orpheum Show showed up last week from Mr. Miller for those wanting more.
Tiny Theater Dead Shows, those were the good ole days!
BTK thanks for sharing. Tell us more.

The Reel flip during The Other One on 12/12/70 from the Santa Rosa Fairgrounds pretty much ensures we won't be seeing that show released any time soon. Rough!
It's funny to think that these recordings we all collect so obsessively were basically an after thought :)

Have a Grate Day!

7/13/76 Orpheum Crazy Fingers... Wow!!!!

If you are a Crazy Fingers fan take a listen!!! Also found a SB on archive of 7/13/76. bob t

GOGD. / Orpheum Theatre

I remember that there were two Dead posters in the front window, Skull & Roses. and the one with Garcia in a leather coat, the Dead at the Fillmore 1966 . Blair Jackson did a big write up on the shows in BAM magazine in July or August of 76 ,I have it laying around here somewhere with all my Dead posters and collections. I thought it was a great show and I still think that as I listen back to the tape. Winterland held about 5000 some people, it was cavernous compared to this place. I saw the Jerry Garcia band play there once. But those Dead shows were special, and this 1976 box set is very special . 1975 & 1976 fantastic years!

BTK / BAM & 1800 Small

Nice! 1800 capacity Dead Show sounds so amazing, shit that's like a 1000 people smaller than the Fillmore East.

I'd like to check out that BAM article, I did a couple google searches but didn't find it. I wonder if it's in This Is All A Dream We Dreamed? Hmmm.

Well, I know what I'll be listening to today.

Thanks for the inside scoop!
Good Stuff.

Adding 4/6/69 To The Mix

Adding 4/6/69 to the mix. Came up on the Dave's Picks 35 thread. Looks tasty.

Capitol Theater

Capacity, 1,800 . I was last inside there over 49 years ago. Not sure if capacity has changed in the 21st century. Lesh is more. Got an empty cup. Phil it up.

Capitol

I don't think the capacity has changed.. they certainly didn't add on any rooms. I was last there sometime between 6 and 9 years ago. Classic venue.. hallowed walls.

I love small, quaint, intimate theatres. Yummy. Makes me want to travel back in time and set the dials to Europe, spring 1972 (and Port Chester 1970 and 1971).

GOGD

Hey man, PM me your email, I have something I think you will dig.

Billy The Kid

Done!

My September 72 tour has me in Waterbury 9/23/72

On Birdsong right now... looking forward to It's All Over Now, Baby Blue and Cryptical... I had a good board of this on tape back in the day... bob t

How about William and Mary 9/24/76 today

Good fall tour 76 show and a Dave's Picks release... bob t

Dave's #4

Yes, 9/24/76 is a good call Bob t. I am on it.

Another shout out

In the bulletin

Keep up the good work people

2/18/71

The photograph in the bulletin shows Jerry playing the Alembic experimental guitar or the “peanut”. One of two that were made. That does set the date of its first appearance two to three weeks before the March 71 date as stated in Blair Jackson’s book “Grateful Dead Gear” and a day later from what I thought was first time 2/19/71. Looking closer at the photograph, Billy’s drum placement would suggest after the 18th. Mickey was set up on the left of what was a small stage with Ned Lagin between him and Jerry. Would love to see the photographers proof sheet, or all the negatives. But it looks like five piece Grateful Dead.
I guess I should quote my old friend Pete Bogle , taper / archivist who coined the phrase “another picky Deadhead” when he introduced it as a bumper sticker in the 80s.
Ah yes, those foggy ruins of time.

9/24/76

"The people up front are visibly bug eyed. They are looking flat". On to the second set... Great stuff.

https://youtu.be/20dic8S3cWI…

https://youtu.be/20dic8S3cWI......with lyrics 🎸☮️🎵🎧🎶✌️

Ned's Link

It looks like Ned posted a broken link, or more accurately, the "......with" was mistakenly attached to link making it dead)

I think this is what he meant to post.. Wharf Rat w/ Pete from Rockpalast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dic8S3cWI

Has anyone ever noticed that when Bolo disappears fire, brimstones and complete mayhem is unleashed upon the world?

Proof Sheet

Good Eye mate!

I didn't catch the Peanut Guitar, it's hard to determine, but you've got a good eye for that instrument Strider.

We might need some Hair forensics for this photo. I see it floating around with some different dates attributed to it. But since that's the Peanut, that would definitely help narrow the date range of the photo, and yeah looks like 5 man Dead.

The shirt and boots Jerry is wearing are featured in the famous family dog photo from February 1970 by Altman. But, who's to say he didn't wear them for a while. I've got some shirts that are at least 10 years old, possibly older.

Cool photo for sure, Stephen Gilbert has some other cool photos on GDAO of the GD from October & November 1970, this one is dated from the November '70 Capitol Run on that site. But I think the real tell would be Phil's haircut.

Phil, when did you cut your hair in 1971, was it right before the Capitol Theater run in 1971?

Yeah, the Contact Sheet would be sweet. I second a look at that. But I think you're on to something Strider, I'm thinking 2/19 or after.

Fun stuff. Makes me want to hear some 1971 Capitol Theater, and I do believe that's the point :)

VGUY: GD Newsletter came today, check spam.

Bulletin....

.....where can I find it?

JGs Alembic

Here’s an interesting article on that seldom played custom Alembic

https://relix.com/articles/detail/jerry-garcias-pretzel-guitar-resurfac…

EDIT: perhaps there were 2 different guitars as the one in the news letter showing the capital pic looks different then this “pretzel” guitar? Wouldn’t be that unusual for them to offer him different options since Alembic was in house etc...

Phil’s haircut / peanuts, pretzels and beer

November 1970 he had a ponytail. February 1971 he had the haircut.
The internet has way more about the “peanut” guitar than ever before. I believe it’s not the same as the “pretzel” guitar. Peanuts , pretzels and beer. Port Chester is where 18-20 year olds would go to drink when it was still 21 in Connecticut. Lowered drinking age in Ct in 72.
Back to the mystery guitar. I definitely remember Jerry playing a much smaller body guitar most of the February 71 run. I called Alembic in Santa Rosa about five years ago and talked with Ron Wikershams daughter who told me they still had two peanut guitars that Garcia played. I asked her if they could remember if Garcia played them in February of 1971 and she said I should have a better idea as I was at the Capitol Theater five nights during that run. Rick Turner who built the peanut says it was pre-Alembic.
So maybe the Stephen Gilbert photograph shows a completely different guitar altogether. I do remember Jerry’s homemade Guatemalan fabric cowboy shirt, 1970.
Where’s Columbo when we need him.
By the way, the German film Wings of Desire staring Peter Falk is a beautiful film.
But I digress.

Hair Forensics

It's all about the Hair.

I love archival research and yeah the internet is the place for GD info!

It's too hard to see much detail from the Feb '71 pic we're looking at, so like Wikersham's daughter was saying, you should know if it was THE peanut or not ;)

It looks kinda like peanut to me, maybe we can tell when we hear the new tapes. Are you able to pick out the peanuts sound? I remember you mentioned it having a distinct sound. There's some cool pics of Jerry playing peanut at the Manhattan Center in April '71 for sure. So we might have to put our archivist ears on and play some back to back shows from the Cap & Manhattan center.

The problem with pre-order

is that we still have to wait another month to hear 2-18-71 in all it’s Plangentized glory (the samples don’t count).
Just announce it and put it in sale when it is ready to ship.

71 comparisons and investigative work - this is the group to do it.

Record Store Day this Saturday

https://recordstoreday.com/NewsItem/9003

Woo Hoo

Just saw this mentioned on the DaP 35 board.

https://www.jimihendrix.com/music/music-money-madness-jimi-hendrix-in-m…

Ha..

The famous Brotherhood of Eternal Love show? I think yes... Interesting...

Aha!

So the photo from this Rick Turner article on the peanut guitar looks like the cap theater one in the bulletin, only from a better angle.
Interesting history about its pre-Alembic origin.
Strider, you sir are blessed with a great memory! Thanks for sharing all this groovy stuff for us!

https://rickturnerblog.com/2017/12/05/garcias-turner-peanut-guitar/

EDIT: the Gibson headstock really gives it away!

EDIT: I meant the guitar was the same in both pics

Re: Strider

Right.. how can you remember all this detail? You don't see too many show reviews from me because most of the memories are inconveniently erased from my mind, or worse, all I can remember are broad details and when I even contemplate writing something there's just not enough to make a point. Perhaps I need to start taking some of that jellyfish memory pill crap or something.

Sometime I really think I am pre-Alzheimer's.

It's unbelievable you remember all this stuff so many years later... you put me to shame.

shirt forensics

Photo on the Rick Turner Blog definitely not from the same night as the photo in the GD Bulletin. RTBlog shirt is the blue denim, sawtooth pocket, pearl snap that Jerry is wearing for 8/14/71 BCT. No way is that the same shirt in the GD Bulletin photo, which even in b/w is clearly multicolored shirt. I think the Turner photo is from the Manhattan Center shows - Jerry Garcia site has photo with that same denim shirt for 4/5.

I love the Peanut Guitar - in part cause I hadn't even heard about it until the last year, the name strikes me as freaking funny, the back story is outrageously cool, and, lest i forget, it sounds great!

Strider - love the tracks you lay down for us to follow.

Rick Turner Peanut 1/21/71 - 4/29/71

Nice OB!

That adds some color to this picture.

Based on Turner’s blog post it sure sounds like there was only one Peanut.
Based on the Photo, photographer’s labeling and Phil’s haircut we can assume it’s from the Capitol Theater circa February 1971.
Based on the photo and Strider’s eyewitness account Garcia is playing the Peanut.

I wonder if LIA etc have already discussed this?
Looks like.. Yes. Deadessays has the Rick Turner Peanut listed as 1/21/71 - 4/29/71

Shoulda figured to start there ;)

Good Stuff.

PS - 4/5/71 is a Rocker, it’s been awhile since I’ve played this one. The Peanut sounds good!

4/5/71

Love the raunchy grunge tone of Jerry's guitar this show. I know they are very dissimilar, but I get the same vibe from the Dec'77 shows, the (sort of) return of the Wolf. Full of anger and disdainful sustain. Rock and Roll.

Sorry to go off on a tangent. As you were..

4/5/71

Yeah Jim & GOGD - the Peanut sounds damn good.

pick of the day (some day) i think ; )

Re: 4/5 - Someday...

Someday being today.. I just finished it. Been a while, doc would be proud. I know (knew) every note of this of this show, but it's been so long I picked up a whole lot of new stuff. Like.. why were the harmonies for Rider so off compared to a year into the future, clearly they worked on this. Was it Phil? ..but still a kickin' version, especially the transition, so young so fresh. As mentioned earlier the tone and raw power of the performance. A great little show.

Manhattan Center '71

Enjoyed 4/5/71 yesterday, it'd been a really long time.
Had to happen with all that Peanut talk.

Super fun listen. Think I need to hear the rest of the run.
Will throw that out there as a suggestion for pick of the day, pick one 4/4, 4/5, 4/6 and give it a spin.

It is like reconnecting with an old friend. Whose Yodeling in Me & Bobby McGee? I always thought it was Jerry, but now I think that's Marmaduke? Check out Bobby in China Cat, killing it! The Other One, completely slays. And the NFA > GDTRFB is like a part of my DNA, note for note, I must've heard it a million times on Skullfuck. Think I gotta go dust off 4/6 now.

Worth a revisit for sure, and it'll get you pumped for some '71 to come.

Alright, be well all and Happy Friday!

Hooteroll?

Back cover photograph shows Jerry passing a J and is wearing the Guatemalan cowboy shirt. I saw Howard Wales and Jerry both early show and late show at the Academy of Music (January?) 1972. Talk about throwing the audience for a curveball. I enjoyed it.
As far as one or two peanut guitars , I’m only going on what Alembic founders, daughter said. No big deal.
Ability to have a sharp memory, a lifetime of working in the woods/mountains. Tons of fresh air, sleeping on the ground, avoiding white powders, pure water, simple food, meat in limited doses, backpacking, walking, climbing mountains, (still do) reading actual books not kindle, taking breaks from Ganga, going on 20 years since quitting all alcohol. (Not passing judgment, most of my friends drink) , traveling in Latin America, learning a second language (Spanish) by direct immersion talking with people, only using a translation dictionary, getting to know and making friends with people of different ethnic backgrounds, mixing it up , leaving comfort zones at times, waking up at or before dawn, (even as a teenager), as far as dates, I know my seasonal work history,(mostly trail work in Wilderness areas) Official book of the Deadheads was the first time I saw a list of Dead shows with dates, synced work, travel, Grateful Dead concerts, other bands, where I’ve lived, (almost 40 years in New Mexico) it all fits together like a puzzle.
My number of Dead shows are within 2-3 for exact count, 133 in 25 years to the best of my ability. Was I at Manhattan Center two or was it three nights in April 71, was I at Academy of Music three or four nights in March 72. I know I was at all four nights of November 1970 at the Capitol Theater. I’m certain I was at the Capitol Theater 2/18,19,20,21 and the final night, 2/24/71. By summer 1972 and beyond dates are very exact. I have most of my ticket stubs starting with December 1981.
The other way I keep my memory sharp. Have hardly watched television since leaving home in 1972.
Will have to listen to 4/5/71 today .A day late a dollar short. Oh well. As far as a venue, Manhattan Center had a twisted vibe, oversold and rundown, of course the music was at a high peak in the history of the band. Nevertheless “Aces back to back”.
Tractors you say, my uncle Harlan worked for John Deere in Des Moines.
Stairs you say, “Stairway to Heaven”!
Parking meters you say, “ watch your leaders and your parking meters”

Guatemalan Cowboy Shirt

Now that's some merch I could get behind.
And the boots!

That'd be sweet :)

Nice Strider! Keep em coming my man.
Thankfully you kept that brain together so you could tell us fools some stories (I jest!) :)

BTW 4/5/71 wasn't the official pick yesterday, I just got a hankering, all that Peanut talk.
Sounds like Jim & I jumped on it. But recommend the rest of you do too. Make it official BlueCrow!

So Fire it up Folks, head to the Manhattan Center circa 1971, don't get crushed by the overcrowding and have a good time!

4.5.71 is officially streaming....

....let's see where this takes me.

1973 Assembly Hall Feb 21 & 22

I was just emailing Uncle Gary about one of these shows that he sent me (2/22). This pair of shows would make a great mini box. They're on the shorter side, so they can probably fit it all on four or five discs and they play extremely well.

The set lists are no joke (Bird Song, Dark Star, China Rider, Playing in the Band, Eyes of the World). At a minimum 2/22 could use an official rendering. Hook me up bartender, hook me up.

Pigpen

For all you folks going to the Manhattan Center show

Listen to how happy Pigpen is!
Especially during the end of Lovelight, man he sounds so stoked.

Thinking April '71 was the peak of Pig's career.

Good Stuff!

Times Square /Manhattan Center

Added to the general vibe that night. MC was a block or two away.( Correction, 8 blocks away 9/26) I just read my comment for 4/5/71 that I wrote 9 years and 6 months ago on Dead. Net. Listening to China/Rider just now I could hear the difference from the Capitol Theater. Manhattan Center was at least twice as big. (?) I did make it from the floor to the huge balcony for the second set where there was room enough to dance. It was supposed to be a “dance marathon “. The sound of the recording in that room has a different sound from the Fillmore East or the Capitol Theater. Perhaps somewhat like Winterland. Although Winterland was longer from the back to the stage. Now the Oakland Auditorium was awesome. Another decade, another era. I still have audience tapes I made there with my Sony D-5.
Another time marker I use is foreign travel. First time out of the States was to Montreal, Quebec, Canada in late April 1970 to film the Expo 67 dome. Was making a super 8 film on geodesic domes. Or my first time to Mexico to TJ and k-49 surfing with an old friend from the east. Or the first time to southern Mexico (Chiapas) and Guatemala in January 1988. Living in the highlands of Chiapas (& selva) five winters 1992-1996 while furloughed from seasonal Forest Service. It’s those kind of times that stand out in my memory just as amazing Grateful Dead concerts do. So it goes.

the Peanut

of all the Dead eras and sound I've always had a special place in my heart for the Skull and Roses lp. and only yesterday, when GOGD commented on the 4/5 Not Fade Away > Going Down the Road, and I'm like oh yeah, those lp tracks are from this show(!), did it click that the Peanut is at the heart of that sound. The Peanut, a somewhat obscure Garcia guitar, unlike no other, that Jerry used for all of 3 months. I was listening to 4/5 today at work and Jerry's sound is so freaking early rock and roll bluesy clean and raw at the same time and I love it.

GOGD - The yodeler IS Marmaduke. After the song is finished Bob quickly says his name!!

Some People Like Licorice

Some people like peanuts

licorice and peanuts

love them both

listening to 4/5 again - simply wow

When you're tired of yourself..

..and all of your creations.

Such a personal lyric.. when your children, they all start to resent you.

What mind would write this stuff.

Say what you want about 80's GD, but at the very least.. they were the worlds best Dylan Cover band for a short period of time.

Checking out 7/2/ 89.. part of the Shakedown Stream.. but I missed it and they took it away almost immediately.. now it's back.

To Lay Me Down kicking in now. Amazing stuff.

Highway 61 Revisited

No doubt Jim. The Dylan slot. My god, some shows saw 3-4.

Recently, I have been really digging the different versions of Maggie's Farm. So many favorites. I can't pick one. Of course Desolation Row and Phil's take on Tom Thumbs Blues.
I remember being a big fan of Stuck Inside a Mobile.... During the late 80's Alpine days. Still love it.

Tomorrow's Pick

Here is an option for tomorrow, 9/26/1980, The Warfield Theatre, second night. There is a good SBD Miller copy on Relisten/Archive.

I will be going through this entire run I hope this year. I have listened to a few and not all have SBDs and the sound quality definitely varies.

Everybody hang loose.

From the Manhattan Center To The Warfield Theater

9/26/80 you say?

I've been crammed into the crowded and way oversold Manhattan Center circa '71 for a few days now, and my minds been squished. It's been a fun trip.
I think I saw some of you there.

Great stories abound on the internet, a Dance Marathon on the East Coast in the Grand Ballroom of the opera house built by Oscar Hammerstein. An attempt to show all the seated venues of the area how to party. Capacity at around 2500 people, reports of 10,000 in attendance. Not much dancing reported. And the music created imho is quintessential spring '71 Dead. (Funny, not only do you have to quantify the year, but the time of year, as by the Fall they were yet another type of Dead, love it).

If you didn't get to it, I say give the other 2 nights a spin, 4/6/71 at the very least (the band take a rare dip into the back catalog and play the oldies!) and search out the many reviews & articles written about the shows. Or at least the reviews in Taper's Compendium. Worth the trip.

But Hark!?!? What's that I hear?

A call to change gears and dive into another legendary period of the Grateful Dead.
The hallowed Warfield Theater run of 1980.
I'm already at Birdsong.
These acoustic sets from the 1980s sure make for nice morning music. La Da Da Da...

Warfield Theatre 1980

It would have been nice if the Dead had included, Rosemary, Mtns of the Moon , and Attics of My Life to their acoustic sets in 1980.

Best Dylan cover band

Absolutely!

I listened to 4-6-69 last night, it has a Baby Blue.
Now I’m wondering when the first Dylan cover was played. There’s some homework for today if any of you are bored.

I love the Dylan covers from the 80/90’s.

Well, I have to run to the beer store, which is by the record store, but 5-9-77 vinyl is out on October RSD. I’ll have to check today’s list of releases to see if I should buy some vinyl today.