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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2311
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    Sis got to see the first show at that newly remodeled roller rink too. Right before the Hammond/Dead show she saw Jethro Tull and the Denver band Zepher with lead guitarist Tommy Bolin! Dang! I didn't know how pure hippy she was back then. A legacy. Waiting on a call from her to get the whole low-down. Seems the Denver cops got The Family Dog (see Canned Heat drug bust) and Mammoth Gardens both shut down to cut down on juvenile delinquency. A Denver civic leader was quoted as saying, "The place is going to Hell in a handbasket". But at least we're enjoying the ride!
    Cheers and thanks Blue Crow.

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    Just like flu?

    Jeez, P.T. sorry to read about all that. I know shit happens, but that's an avalanche. I hope it doesn't get you down too much, and that you have a steady recovery. A friend of mine said he had bad trouble breathing when he caught it last February - but he was okay after about three weeks. So here's hoping it won't last too long for you either.

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    Got a soft spot for mammoths.

    1st Show - thanks for the rec. I love this acoustic/electric era. Listening to the sirmick transfer on relisten (sirmick trnsfers are quality for me). yes, a bit back-of-the-hall but truly very much listenable to my ears. both Jerry and Phil plus vocals and overall "sound" well captured in terms of energy. you can easily relax into this tape. plus its an excellent freaking show. Epic Dark Star > Stephen > William Tell > Eleven (last one?). On a side note this lead me to a nice DeadEssays blogpost by Light in Ashes on audience tapes from 1970. Typical thorough rundown. Plus bonus content in that in the comments there are a whole bunch of interesting taper war stories from back in those earlier days.

    Oro - guitar preferences understood. To my ears Lightning Bolt had a very "clean" sound and at times almost like he was playing an acoustic. I think the Travis Beans were similar in having what I would describe as clean sound. While I loved the TB he was playing in '77, the one in '76 not so much for a long time. June '76 box finally set me straight on that. Skull and Roses Jerry sound is a favorite and I only learned in past couple years that he was playing the Rick Turner Peanut which I hadn't even really known existed, let alone its place in '71 history. And just yesterday you posted that Rick Turner had passed away. RIP.

    Edit - And now, after some "research", I freaking learn that Jerry was playing Rosebud in Seattle '94. Read that he switched to Rosebud for Summer '94 and checked a photo and damn that's what he playing. Ha. Guess my ears not as calibrated as I would think sometimes. Also read that he was playing Rosebud summer tour '95, including 7/9/95, (which I saw) because Lightning Bolt was "in the shop". However - Rosebud had some technical issues mid-show 7/9 and he finished the show with Tiger. He was playing Lightning Bolt for the '95 shows I saw in Seattle and Portland. Jam in Foolish Heart 5/25 perfectly expresses what I loved about Lightning Bolt.

    PT Barnum - Whew. Dodged the bullet thank goodness. Speedy full recovery.

    A fine Sunday to crank some (Mammoth) Dead.

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    I have had all the shots, boosters etc. Last week I got out of the hospital after not being able to breath and could not complete a sentence. I started feeling bad on Thursday, itchy throat. Then, Friday, bad chills, fever, just an all around feeling of death. Got thru the weekend but by Monday, could not breath and was literally gasping for breath. Called the VA nurse and told her my symptoms, she said "Get to the Emergency Room, now." So I went. Turns out after all my precautions, I got covid. They treated it with new antibiotics and by Friday I was able to return home. I am still on O2 and can't really go anywhere or do anything. Still weak as a puppy and am attached to this breathing machine that produces O2 by stripping the Nitrogen out of the air and gives you pure oxygen. I have no brain fog, none. I have no stamina either. Simple tasks are a burden and any thing strenuous can't be done.
    On top of it all, I went to the store with my portable O2 tank, did some shopping for food stuffs, and checked out, got to the car and opened the door, turned around and the cart was rolling down the parking lot with my groceries in it. I turned in pursuit and tripped over my own feet and fell to the ground, o2 tank crashing to the ground along with disabled me resulting in bloody scrapes and a huge blood blister on left hand where most of the weight landed. Nothing broken luckily. Now, I have my groceries delivered. I don't go out. I don't drive.
    Lost a filling upper left too, and then there was the car accident with my wife driving. No one hurt, just the car, 7000.00 damage done to the passengers side both doors and rear quarter panel. Got to close to a pole.
    In closing, shit happens to us all, you got to roll with it. I think soon I will be actually rolling with it, in my wheel chair.
    Stay cool deadheads.
    Last 5:
    Spirit - The Complete Potatoland
    Budgie - Never turn your back on a Friend.
    Pink Floyd - More
    GOGD - 5-25-72 Disc 3 from the trunk
    GOGD - 5-11-72 Disc 3 from the trunk (Dark star>drums>Dark star)

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    52 years ago today my older sister, the one who can roll a joint one handed while driving, was at her first (and only?) show and tripping to primal Dead. Trying to find out, as some reviews have said, if this was one show or two. Deadbase lists as two nights with the first night having an acoustic then electric set that ends in Drums, with the second night (4/25/70) being electric starting with Dark Star and going through some grease with Pig's Man's World in there for what seems like a short set list. Was this a rain-out or a curfew? One reviewer said it was one night with a tape cut in Man's World and he likened the sound to being recorded in a bathtub. Not high praise but he did like the primal nature of the beast. Any ideas?
    Thanks and cheers
    Edit: The notes from the five versions on the Archive seem to indicate one show and there never was a 4/24 show. Looks like the five entries are from only two sources and the others are improved versions. Especially interesting are the citations of a Feeling Groovy and Tighten Up jams in the Dark Star. Gotta give this a go! Now, how do you download from the Archive?

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    Lol, sorry BC, I was worried my words were not going to be right.
    I liked this show, it just made me think, remember, which in itself is ok.
    But those were changing times and sometimes there’s residual baggage attached?
    And I’m always preaching you shouldn’t compare apples to oranges etc, and so yes, for the time it was a fine show and I enjoyed it, and appreciate being guided to a 94 show that was enjoyable, because unfortunately, not all are as consistent. I’m glad to check out any era as long as the show is up to the standards of said era, actually, I’m pretty game for anything lol. But there can be a difference in consistency and quality between randomly picking say a 77 show or a 94-95 show, the odds that is, no?
    I just have the perhaps bad habit by modern standards of critiquing what catches my ear, both good and not so good, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I don’t enjoy the show. That’s why I listen, to see how every show is different, and It’s often easier to pick out the miscues than the subtle golden yummies. Also, I can tell folks often don’t get what I’m trying to get at, but that’s on me I’m sure. But it’s all good and that’s why this here gathering spot is called with discussion!
    Oh, same with the guitar thing: it’s not that I don’t like it, I just like it less than others, same with the Travis Beans. It’snot that I don’t like, I just like Tiger more etc. I’ve usually embraced the evolution in the dead’s sounds as the years rolled by, but the industrial later 90s stuff I didn’t like AS much. But it’s grown on me over the years, same with Vince in some ways. Just need more quality exposure. Like an athlete, need more reps etc!

    JIM: hang in there amigo, I feel like life’s piling it up a little your way?
    Sure don’t need to remind ya: “ if you get confused, listen…”
    Another interesting day.
    Mañana amigos!

    PS, Dooaahh, thanks for correcting my venue information error. I usually check those things but being in a hurry did not. Gotsta keep it real!

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    Those two are a package deal.. The Phil Space Extravaganza. Somebody must have put something in his coffee.

    I wasn't able to hit 4/18 but I plan to revisit it at some point soon. Nearly stranded in the middle of nowhere today, flat tire and issues that can sometimes come with that. All is good, got a little sunburn but had a great day. No listening though.....

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    Oro - those Seattle shows are at 2 different venues, though just blocks apart. Coliseum is indoor, Memorial Stadium is outdoor. I think at that time Memorial Stadium was used primarily for High School football playoffs, it wasn't all that big.

    Gonna have to agree to disagree somewhat on the '94 show. I didn't run Set I this time around so need to do that, but I think it's solid good show, esp. given the time period. Scarlet > Fire had that extra juice and, like I said, Jerry's cup runneth over on the Dew. and I can't ask for anything more. You're not the first I've heard by any means who didn't like Jerry's guitar sound at the time. Me? I really liked the sound of Lightning Bolt, which I think Jerry was playing that night. As chance would have it I actually attended the first Lightning Bolt show, which was the Jerry Garcia Band 8/7/93 right there in Memorial Stadium. Also saw the first Lightning Bolt Dead shows, which were later that month in Eugene. Not that I actually knew that he was playing a new guitar, I wasn't that dialed into the equipment. But Jerry's tone in all three shows sounded excellent to me. The JGB show was an afternoon affair and top shelf - release worthy later era JGB in my opinion. I think Jerry enjoyed it so much that that's how the Dead ended up playing the same venue in '94 and '95. Memorial Stadium was probably about as chill a venue as you could have in those last years. My youngest brother was out visiting that month, so backpacking, camping, and music. It was an awesome time.

    I'll check out the '83.

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    Holy shit!

    You guys have never heard 4/18/82, especially liking spring 82…blimey!
    I haven’t mentioned it because I just assumed, and we all know what happens when we assume, that everyone has heard that one! Well, look at the upside, you guys are in for a treat as the whole show is good, not just the cherry.

    6/13/80: good job Senior Wiseman sp? sorry.
    Interesting show too. Overall thought it was good, JG seemed to struggle at times and I don’t think I’ve heard him having so many tuning issues since tuners and custom guitars? Perhaps some kind of guitar issues?
    Good show though, really dug the new tunes that they didn’t always seem to have their parts down.
    Interesting catching 6/13/94 next. Same venue, same day, just FOURTEEN years later!
    The 94 was ok, but sounded like they might of been back too far as you can hear way more of the venues acoustic signature. I believe Nitecat said he was using a high stand in FOB? That would certainly reduce the venue, ambience and crowd! Can’t wait to check out more! We need a list so we can work em into rotation.
    That is if you SB snobs can handle it lol, JUST TEASING!
    The 94 was good. Er, hard to put into words…tired and industrial came to mind. The former was more a vibe, but seemed to cover much until Bird Song, which had a little extra, but that’s where I thought of the latter. It sounded industrial, which I don’t mean good or bad, just different? I’ve not been a big fan of Jers guitar sound during this era.
    It’s not bad, just different? Bob changed axes and crap constantly, but besides effects etc, Jer kept that trademark sound mostly intact up until here. I don’t think it’s not using live speakers on stage since that happened in 92. Perhaps it’s that different guitar (forget the name) he was using, or perhaps something in line?
    Felt like it sounded like a cheap piezo pickup on a plastic ovation like guitar through a crappy amp. Of course I’m exaggerating but it did sound different, for good or for Ill, your taste may certainly differ.
    But the show picks up more in the second and though I did enjoy it, it reminded a little of the feelings we started to have in those days, like gulp, it might end! But all these years later I’m able to listen with different sort of ears, and don’t suffer from the hangups I had back then. So was it a 74 Beatty, no, but so what, it was still an enjoyable performance by the best band in the land. Thanks for the pick. Since not all shows from then are as consistent, it’s nice to have picks when venturing into foggy territory!
    Oh, BC, if you’ve not done so, perhaps check out one of my 83 favs from that Seattle venue, 8/27/83!
    Make sure you get the right version? Can’t recall but you want to hear it on speakers not cans, at least Jack Straw!
    Hint, PHIL!

    Daverock, back at ya!

    GF: no I’ll intent ment. We just felt you misspoke, but you have since clarified and the wheel keeps turning!
    Be well and rock on brother!
    PS: I remember some of this horrible experience you went through before but being forgetful myself had forgotten just how horrific it was. Glad you made it and are here with us!

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    Sounds really rough Gary. Glad you pulled through. Hope you continue to heal.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:20

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Hi everyone, well I am back from my virtual Sept 1972 tour.... Why I am booing.. Not because of the tour it was awesome!!! When i returned to 2020 i found out that someone tried to open a Home Depot credit card in my name very similar to my friend Jim in MD.... However i was fortunate enough to have a credit freeze on at the 3 credit bureaus to prevent such things... So i got the Lifelock text last night at 11:30.. Contacted Home Depot credit this morning, after a couple of calls found out they were not able to get the credit because of my freeze!!!! Here is the kicker, if the card had been issued it was coming to my address!!! But guess what, Home Depot will let you use the card before you actually receive the physical card once you are approved.. Coincidence that Home Depot has been used twice now by 2 posters??? So if you don't use paypal, like myself pay attention..... bob t

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:20

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Did Set 1 last night, Set 2 starting now.

After that I think I’ll do 7-12-87 from the GS Box for a little taste of 87 in honor of the upcoming DaP36.
Wonder how fast DaP36 ala carte’s will sell out.
Wonder if we’ll get a cassette master SBD or a matrix.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:35

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Good thing that got stopped BobT.

I’ve received notices of my name possibly being included in data breaches 3-4 times in less than 2 years.
And where’s that 3 free years of credit monitoring that I was supposed to receive as a result of the Equifax settlement?

Time the check my free credit report.

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0155-free-credit-reports

Note: you can get it free once per year from each of the 3 agencies, but it doesn’t have to be at the same time. So, space it out and do a single agency at a time, once every 4 months, but don’t use the same agency for another 12 months. That way you can get a free report every 4 months.

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Oh yeah, the irony is that Equifax, one of the credit reporting agencies, got hacked and lost a lot of info, which is why they are supposed to be giving me (and millions of others) free credit monitoring.
I registered more than a year ago but never got anything. I’m going to look into that.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 10/04/2020 - 09:47

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So after a brief diversion to FAC rock out to DaP 35, really dig the first set. The seconds starting to lose that new car smell...later, went to 7/12/87 after all the 87 hoopla, nice little show.
Meanwhile I had planned on trying to get a good listen in on DP 11 from 9/27/72, but ended up back at the fall 73 tour since I have a tour buddy now.
9/18/73 I was not able to find a source and DB 50 suggests it might of been cancelled?
9/20/73 seemed a tad below the mark comparatively, perhaps that’s why they didn’t break out all the new jazzy stuff? Cool nobody's jam outta truckin’ though. Tape didn’t help my vibe on this one.
9/21/73 seems to pick up where they left off with a status quo (meaning good) first with the stand out being a sweet HCSS! The second se5 was another beauty eh! And though the tape was decent the mix turned out to be lacking as the horns were sometimes inaudible. I even tried different versions but same problem, noticed some vocals and other drop outs occasionally...the only blemish musically was Let Me Sing as Kieth is also hard to hear sing, or may even be struggling as it seems like JG is much more prevelant, perhaps trying to compensate? Don’t think this can totally be attributed to the mix?
It’s a bummer that this was I believe the last version as it was a good song and he sang it well early on.
Feel like the jam on 9/11 had potential, but that was it...unless they did it on 9/8? Probably should have started with that one even sans horns...
But listening to this version it kinda feels over...
But no biggie as the majority of the second set kicks ass audio anomaly’s and all.
That whole Truckin’ through Rat, followed by a great Row Jimmy, and THEN the whole jazzy horn sequence of the show which would of been top notch except for the mix...I’ll need to go back and hear that post Truckin jam into the other one or maybe it’s the post TOO that I really dug, though I was actually in a fog groovin’ on the couch lol. Hey, it was Saturday I deserved a little couch time dammit!
Today I want to try and get DP 11 in, but those last 2 horn shows are calling, so who knows!
Think next week I’m going to try and do fall 89 in order though I doubt I’ll get to them all on the anniversary date.

That is a bummer Bob t, for you and the rest of the people on this site.
Hope they get this taken care of for all.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 10/05/2020 - 03:01

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Sorry about your experience. I got nailed by someone in July, but my bank declined them, so I was lucky. I also received a letter from a vendor I spend at indicating they had a data breach in that period. I assume that's how my info got out there to be replicated in fake card form. So much for those security chips in the card.

So what does Lifelock do?

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 10/05/2020 - 06:00

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Thanks for the kind words and sorry you had it happen also. Lifelock texts me anytime anyone attempts to open a line of credit, or anything similar like a payroll advance, or opening up a checking or savings account, in real time. So i received a text to my phone and an email the same day on Saturday that they tried to open the account. I have nothing to do with Lifelock also. They are the ones that told me about putting the credit freeze on at the credit bureaus, (by the way you can do that on line for free)... Also on a side note, I have my Visa set up to get alerts anytime any purchase is made on line or on phone, or internationally, which is another helpful tip!! Bob t

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Their ad says:
“ Our Travel agency offers:
Transparency.
Exceptional customer service.”

Transparency and exceptional customer service are certainly more than Rhino offers.

“Mind-blogging deals and offers.”

Mind-blogging?
Uh, ok.....

“Inconceivable deals on refunds and advance bookings.”

Inconceivable?
I’m not sure that means what you think it means....

Well, maybe they’re not so good.
Don’t give them your credit card number.

So I clicked on their link and my screen went completely blank. So transparency is the first thing you see when you do business with these guys. No doubt a good sign as honesty seems front and central in dealing with them.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 10/05/2020 - 16:12

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We have a great first set from 4/23/77 in Springfield, Great Row Jimmy and Scarlet>Fire, (third one ever), a good 78 and and 86 with the 4th ever Desolation Row and a Brother Essau... Complimentary head sets and snacks served also.... Bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 10/06/2020 - 08:39

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How does the 5/11/77 show from the St. Paul Civic Center sound to you all?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 10/06/2020 - 09:21

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Been a while since I gave this a spin. You caught me just in time, heading out the door with my favorite device in hand.

Move me brightly..

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:43

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Don't miss Phil dropping a snatch of China Doll pre-Wharf Rat. This is prior to the post-hiatus breakout a week later in Atlanta at the Fox. Anyone know if they played Big River in St.Paul? I suppose I can check, too. It's a nice show that pretty much has it all. Oh, except a Dark Star, although there is a Space...Be well and be grateful all! :-)

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Yes, WTJ, this show they played Big River in the first set.

And I agree, great show. Really like the Jack Straw Peggy O. That Jack Straw just keeps building. As you said great Scarlet-Fire, love the UJB, Jam or Space into Wharf Rat. Love that Brokedown Palace encore.

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Take this for a test drive.
https://archive.org/details/gd1969-03-28.sbd.bear.motb.108057.flac16

Have listened to this several times over that past 2 weeks as I try to wrap my mind Around & Around it and anticipate if/when this will be released on CD and vinyl in Plangentized and Normanized glory.

The time is now Dave.
DaP37.
With a follow-up RSD vinyl.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 05:34

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Clearly in Kelly's post (below), her user name is in reference to the Hot Tuna album Burgers, not the fatty, cholesterol laden sandwich. After all, she's a self proclaimed health and lifestyle freak.

I have it on good advisement that Kelly is Hippie Chicks younger, hotter sister, a rabid dead fan and not a cereal spammer.

Update: Scratch that.., apparently my advisor uses a Ouija Board.

Kelly is actually a 450 lb grotesque cereal spammer living in the top level of a rat infested favela outside Rio. On the bright side, this new spamming habit has almost eliminated his desire for chronic pick-pocketing and the mugging of foreign tourists.

I very much enjoyed 5/11 yesterday. A wonderful palate cleanse - it has been a while since I listened to a full May 77 show. Today I am following Cone Kid down the phosphorescent 1969 rabbit hole and have set the dials to the wayback to 3/28/69. Getting the tractor up to 8.8 mph and holding on tight, here I go..

Any interest in taking a Warlocks tour to the Hampton Coliseum tomorrow and Friday ala 10/8 and 10/9/89?

My ReCRAPTCHA this morning read, "Select all pictures with time machines."

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 06:09

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May '77.. nuff said.
That was fun.

Sugaree in the closer spot. Rippin'

3/28/69 is a favorite.

Hampton Coliseum was a cool place.

Tractor Avatar is activated.

Brain is not.
Traffic Lights & Crosswalks.

GD Hour with David Gans to start my morning.
One more day I find myself alive...

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Submitted by Gollum on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 09:24

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I like these picks! Modesto- 1969 Dead in a dusty cowtown. Then the Warlocks. I'm a little embarrassed to admit I've never heard the Warlocks shows, other than the Dark Star, I guess. Let's do this!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 11:18

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Oh yeah, I’m going to Hampton tomorrow and try and do the whole tour in order as I have not heard them all YET!

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 16:32

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I've recently done St. Paul. Obviously the Uncle John's Band Space Wharf Rat and Brokedown Palace is a knockout punch. The Scarlet Fire may be a tad underrated. Probably in my top 5.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 10/07/2020 - 20:16

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Welcome Keithfan, this is a fun spot.

So, 10/8/89 tomorrow and 10/9/89 on Friday. The big enchiladas of the 89 shows released so far.

I think about this box sitting on this site for sale from 2010 to at least 2016 for $69. What a bargain!

Looking forward to going through these two again.

Everybody hang loose.

Edit-Gollum, you have never heard these shows? Let us know your thoughts.

Beats the hell out of me. Ask Butch I guess.

Ticket number 8109, Sunday 7:30 PM October 8, 1989. Sunday was the purple ticket. The East Coast breakout of Help>Slip!>Franklins. The second set was hot, or as Brent and Phil recanted "...but you better take it easy 'cause this place is hot." I'm so glad I made it.

To get my tickets I was supposed to meet a friend.. who got the flu and didn't show up. I am meeting people I did not know at the Holiday Inn in the days before cell phones, texts, emails, etc.. I was basically stumbling around the parking lot for a long time with no plan and someone I did not know came out their room and said, hey.. are you Jim? Strangers stopping strangers...

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Submitted by Gollum on Thu, 10/08/2020 - 10:42

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Finished set 1 and loved it. I really like the sound of the band here. Phil, Bob and Jerry upfront and in good balance and Brent a bit more subdued than Spring 90, filling in holes tastefully. I really like this blend. And I've always liked the MIDI.
Oct 89 > Spring90? (maybe, for Gollum) but on to set 2...

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 10/08/2020 - 14:25

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So happy they did those shows!!! Haven't listened to them in a while!! Good call... Gonna listen to my favorite 82 show tomorrow... Frost Amphitheatre 10/9/82.... This is one of those shows i like better on audience!!! Really like the second set!!! Have a good day all. Bobt

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 10/08/2020 - 18:46

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You finished both today Bob t. You are an overachiever for sure.
10/9/89 for me tomorrow.

Can't imagine how great these shows would have been to see in person. You must have had a blast Jim on both days. Must have been weird to not have the scene outside.
10/9 of course gets a lot of praise due to the Dark Star and Death Don't Have No Mercy, but, 10/8 is no slouch.
Really great show. These recordings are so good.

Why don't people like them, who knows, but they are missing out.

89 has a lot to offer Gollum, they were really on fire until Brent passed.

Be well all.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 05:44

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The Hampton Roads space ship had achieved lift off for sure.. 31 years ago today.

What I don't remember about these shows is stunning, especially because for the most part I was sober.. perhaps a little shrubbery at most. There was a ton going on in my life at the time.. the beginning of real responsibilities that unfortunately I have not been able to shed to this day. I guess you can only stay a carefree kid for so long and life begins.. ready or not.

What I do remember was the return of the newly modified Wolf and just how good they were sounding. It made me think through the of shows I had seen and compare this to how they were playing these two nights. I saw some good ones early on, but pre coma there was a consistency and stamina problem. These two shows were solid, inspired and a huge improvement over what I had seen recently.. well.. probably ever. The boys were back in a big way. That is my strongest memory.

I knew they had pulled out Death Don't Have No Mercy the week before at Shoreline, the warm up for the fall tour shows. But I had no idea what was in store. I had those pre-show jitters, was there stag this time, somewhat unusual for me.. finding my place, fitting in with the complete strangers left, right and center.. then Stranger and that "Long Long Crazy Tour" line. The jitters were gone and the spaceship did not disappoint. I drove home right after the shows.. something like a six hour drive, I had class bright and early the next morning and started my week feeling rough but at peace with the world.

Were they the best shows ever, of course not.. but these shows represented a spark and the beginning of their last truly great run. So glad they recorded it multi-track. We are a lucky, spoiled bunch..

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Submitted by bluecrow on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 06:26

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I was out in the northwest when word of these shows reached me - first heard tapes at the Blue Moon. holy guacamole news. so time to pull out the old cigar box and spin 10/9 today (streamed 10/8 at work yesterday). so much goodness, and that Dew was something else. And Bid you Goodnight??!! these shows inspired me to drive down the coast to LA for the Forum shows (only shows I saw in '89.)

St Paul 5/11/77 is one of my favorite from the spring tour. whole show smokes with one of my personal favorite Scarlet>Fires.

Oro - the eagle has landed.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 06:48

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“when you see 8,000 kids all going up in the air together … Listen, this is powerful stuff!”
- Joseph Campbell re: Grateful Dead

Hampton was special.
Looking at the place you might not think so, but I saw things there that I've never seen anywhere else.
Things happened there, powerful things.

Now you could point to substances or drugs.. but we could play that parlor game all day.

But if you listen to shows from Hampton Coliseum, you can hear what I'm talking about.
Especially if there's some ambience mixed in.
The crowd at Hampton came alive.
Energy connected everyone in that building and it was a spaceship to another place.
A really really cool place.

I think an exploration into the band's connection with Hampton would be illuminating.

Maybe it's because it's where they'd kick off Spring Tour, or a show somebody saw there, or they liked the hotel they stayed at.

Whatever it was things happened there, powerful things.

I think it has something to do with the crowd.

I've never been a part of a crowd like the one during the 3 nights I spent there, we made that place take flight. You could actually see the energy zooming around, connecting us, uniting us, lifting us up, making us scream out. It was a party the likes of which I've searched for, but have never quite found again.

"It" was, in fact, what I'd set out looking for in the first place and had always hoped to find.
"It" was at Hampton.

I wasn't there in '89 but of course these shows are legend.
There's a certain edge to the band when they're on at Hampton, you can hear it on night 1.
I'm looking forward to night 2.
Fun stuff

Cool story Jim thanks for sharing.
It totally did look like a spaceship.
And that puppy could fly!

Happy Friday, hope it's a silky silky crazy crazy night for you all!

EDIT: PS - 10/9/82 = Good Call! Glad you mentioned it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 10:27

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Y’all have covered much of the mystique and vibe of that magical place! I’ll add my two shillings later as I have to get some stuff done, but yeah, shows like these are why my mind gets blown by folks who write them off, my favorite being “there’s nothing worth listening to after 78”....to each their own I guess.....10/8, like DV said, doesn’t have quite the bling as 10/9 but “it’s no slouch” amen brother!
In some ways overall it might be better? Are one of these the best show of the tour???, not sure, it’s hard to not be biased after such an experience, (came out feeling like I’d been mildly dosed! just from the energy etc)..but I’ve kinda felt maybe Nightfall of Diamonds is a touch above overall? And there’s still so many other great shows on this tour that are up there, like Philly anyone? Going to finally take the Pepsi/BobT challenge and do this whole tour since there’s several shows I’ve not heard yet and really want to go in order and do so...been loving that approach as it’s fascinating following the changes and nuances.
Gotta believe that we’ll get more or hopefully most of this tour someday, multitracks of great shows, need I say more!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 11:57

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38 years ago today I was at the Frost seeing the Dead, it was my favorite show that I saw there, they played a lot of good shows there. 10/9 & 10/10/ 82 would make a nice release together. We all dosed and got really high. One of my top 3 Dead shows I attended.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 14:00

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You are correct sir.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 14:32

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Dope!
Everybody Say Primate!
Silence...
Say What?
Everybody Say What!
What!
Hey, that was good, that was good.
Are we all here together...

I'm gonna go listen to #3

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Submitted by Gollum on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 15:24

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It's been great reading all these Hampton memories. I saw three Hampton shows (my favorite was 4/14/84). I've always avoided these Warlocks shows. I guess I figured they were probably overhyped and overrated, because of the surprise billing and the breakouts. Maybe I was a little jealous I missed these shows! :o I see now they stand on their own as great shows. They seem grittier and less polished than Spring 90, in a good way. Right now, I'm preferring them to Spring 90!

I expect I'll be wallowing in these shows all weekend and I also still have Modesto '69 on tap. And maybe some others y'all come up with. An '82 Frost audience sounds pretty cool!

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 15:33

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10/9/82 Frost Audience is finished.... the second set rocks... going to listen to 10/9/77 McNichols which I don't think I have played in at least 25 years.... I do remember the Sugaree and the Scarlet Fire..... For some reason i tend to skip over the early 1977 October tour after the Paramount shows.... I wonder why......Have a good weekend everyone.. Bob t

Love the tickets. Good stuff.
I have had an absolute blast with the Pick of the Day, since this all started in I think March. My god, just thought this would be a few months.
Anyway, listening to the shows and then hearing from this great group. You all make my day. Thank you!

And yes Oroborous, fall 89, so much to offer. Give us some more.

At some point I would love to see them release some Shoreline shows. East coast is great, but there are so many Shoreline shows.

And where is Bolo?? Who got this started?? Thank you.

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Submitted by Gollum on Fri, 10/09/2020 - 23:04

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Wow that Playin' through Space sure went down smooth - and then there's another half hour of magic! Awesome show. The Veneta of the late 80's?!?! Sounds right to me. Now I need to revisit the 10/26 Miami show, another one I've neglected.

Yes, thanks to bolo for the great "pick of the day" idea. So here we are 6 months later and still locked down, more or less, with no clear light at the end of the tunnel. We may as well try to keep this ball rolling!