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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • daverock
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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

  • DeadVikes
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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

  • rockthing
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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

  • rockthing
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    >DAVEROCK>

    "It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it."

    HAHAHA

    I'll be on the lookout for that CCR set. John Fogerty strikes me a somewhat difficult man. Brilliant songwriter and producer, though. Never get tired of Cosmo's Factory, in particular. Gotta get reacquainted with the first album. I recall it being more psychedelic.

    Got a trove of stuff to listen to after yesterday's catch up. Thanks!
    Not sure where I'll start, but probably with something that already has ID tags. lol.

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    There was a good cd of CCR's set that came out a couple of years ago. Apart from Hendrix, possibly my favourite set of the whole festival. "Lovelight" was included on a dvd as an extra, on one of the celebratory reissues of the festival. I don't think I'm being controversial when I say that it wasn't there finest hour. It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it.
    The Dark Star, I've just remembered, was included in the 6 cd 40th anniversary release of Woodstock, too. That's okay. But it's not a show I would suggest as a contender for an official release.

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    Hey folks.
    Whew! Wall to wall autumn (deliberately avoiding the overly-insistent rhyme) and have taken the new year winter decompression to track a lot of the transfers of old vinyl I'd made back in August. Thanks to that, The Dead have taken something of a backseat in my listening during the new year as I've now got all of these other things in a convenient format.

    While tidying up an old hard disk, I came across a James "Blood" Ulmer show I must've torrented over ten years ago, but for whatever reason never unpacked. No info file, and so far various Googling can't even prove that the concert even happened. The directory is only listed as ulmer2_27_86. Anybody have a suggestion where I might look to find some more info on this? I checked out the taper forum, and the "Looking for..." forum, but there hasn't been a lot of activity over there.

    One new Dead show in my library, however:
    6/8/74 FOB which I've only had on once, but wasn't giving my full attention. I think I found it also unpacked on a hard disk while "house cleaning". My (slowly) ongoing exploration of Wall Of Sound audience tapes. Any takers?

    There is also a trove of late 60s shows that were binge torrented and then never unpacked. Can't wait to get to those.

    Well, I'd wanted to recap, but I'm not even out of August, so I'll spare you the flashbacks.

    >Oroborous>
    Thank you for the acknowledgement so many months ago.

    ● Just put the 2/24/71 Port Chester show on. This one I'd transferred from an old cassette. Haven't heard it in a really long time, and don't have as many specific memories of it, like the 2/18 tape.

    Oooh. This Bertha. Bump! Bump!

    Either my cassette was running slow or this is the most mellow Hard to Handle I've ever heard. Dig it.

    I love these really slow early Losers, too. It seemed like it might be vying for a spot in the Dew rotation in those days, but they eventually picked up the tempo to a slow trot as the years went by. This being transferred from a tape, it may just be a media issue. I sometimes cover this on acoustic, and always do it real slow and always only ask for 1 gold dollar, not ten. To me, these are the archetypal Losers.

    Epic Good Lovin' drum solo!

    Thanks for that ranking of that Feb '71 run. Found AUDs on the Archive for the 19th and 21st. Back in the day, I ended up with only 2/18, 2/23, and 2/24 somehow. I was trying to explore as many different eras as possible, I guess, so didn't go for a completist approach... I guess... who knows what I was thinking back then?! lol. I'd take whatever I could get. Those tapes accompanied me on many a road trip cause that period is just fantastic driving music....

    ● A good buddy lent me the 3/9/81 discs. I don't think he got the MSG box, just the single show on offer. Those were on in the car for quite a while last fall.

    My buddy was, like, "Dude. Check this China Cat," and he was not wrong. For me, because I'm less familiar with this era, I felt like there was some really unusual interplay between Phil and Jerry in there. Brent's synth work is pretty novel, too. Sounds like he'd been listening to some Steve Winwood. I could stand for a bit more of it, if I'm honest.

    Bird Song was the first tune in this show to really grab me, though.

    An electric Deep Elem? I'll take that.

    Uncle Johns is kind of a mixed bag. There are some really cool things happening, but it seems a little ragged at times too. That's just how it goes, but that's how I hear this one. No disrespect for hanging it out in front of a huge crowd.

    The Drums > Space > Other One is also fantastic. Sounds like someone (I'll guess Mickey) is playing with some microphone feedback, incorporating it into the jam.

    That Stella Blue seems to start out a little unsure of its footing, but by the end is soaring. That's a real highlight... I mean, I love Stella Blue pretty much any time you'll give it to me, but after a few listens this one really grew on me.

    I think I'm still a little partial to 3/7/81 at U. of Maryland, though.

    >bluecrow>
    Cal Expo rang a bell, but I've only got 5/26, 27 from 1993.

    5/26 is a 3rd gen cassette 1st set and a 4th gen 2nd set AUD. Not sure how that happened. Couldn't tell you anything about it off the top of my head other than that there is a heart mark next to Playin' > Drums > Space > and I tracked that all as just Playin' because that's how I roll.

    ● 5/27/93 is a partial board, but 7th gen cassette... only the 2nd set. I was doin' postage and blanks, so ended up pretty far out on a limb a lot. I'm not using headphones, but there's not a thing wrong with the sound quality. Might have just lost the first set, or maybe never had it.

    Pretty worthy Scarlet/Fire.

    Might skip Wave to the Wind so I can get an ear on the Cassidy > Uncle Johns > Cassidy Reprise > Drums segment. Nah. Wave to the Wind is 7 minutes long. There must be some sort of jam in there. Better be. Certainly are a lot of changes. Jer's on top of 'em. That's about all I can say.

    Cassidy is mellow and starting to jam out, but...ah, well, nice try. The seque into UJB comes across pretty forced. A bit more patience, and cooperation might have helped that jam. Good idea.

    The UJB jam, however is goin' off! Love how it is deconstructing toward drums. The band is showing a lot more patience here... oh, and the brief reprise of Cassidy is smooth as silk. You can hear Jerry hinting at it for a while. It would have been magic if they'd pulled that off on the way out of Cassidy.

    Drums could always be counted on to deliver in the 90s. I'll expect no less here. Nice beam drones. More like space.

    Oddly, Space just seems to stop and Jerry's there playing TOO on his own for a bit. Cool super distortion Bobby cutting is the perfect ground for Jerry's crystal clear lines. Don't appear to be any Martian vocal effects on Bobby's voice, which is a shame. I always liked that. Jer digs in to some overdriven runs after the first chorus which are now weaving nicely with Bobby's stabs and dives. Good mix. The drums are touch lost behind the guitars, maybe. Vince is real low in the mix. Say what you want about '93, dudes are goin' for it. Some heavy echo on Bobby's voice for the second verse, which immediately diffuses into Wharf Rat. Coulda dealt with a bit more TOO, but that was as smooth a transition as you can ask for. The thing about this era is that they have the in-ear monitors, and intercoms, so they didn't have to hint at anything musically. All anyone needed to do was call a tune into the ears of the others. Makes the transitions a lot more succinct, which can be both smoother, but also sometimes a little less thrilling.

    Wharf Rat is a tune that suited Jerry any day, any year. This tune is gonna be solid no matter what... at least as far as I know. Tape starting to sound a little muddy at this point for some reason. It was fine earlier. Love that Bobby is well-represented in the mix to add his coloring throughout. Is this after they fired Dan Healy? Well, I spoke too soon. The Life I Should found the limit of Jerry's voice on this particular night.

    Sounds like Jer's starting GDTRFB, but maybe it's just because this Sugar Mag slides out of Wharf Rat as easy as can be before Bobby takes the lead. Even Bobby's sounding a bit froggy at this point. Musta been something in the air. (Can't imagine what!) Nothing to write home about, but nothing to complain about, either.... Jerry's lettin' some overdrive licks fly throughout the Sunshine Daydream section. It's interesting because it's like you can still hear his clean tone at the core of his distorted effect. Pretty aggressive, if short. No encore on my tape, unfortunately.

    ● My only May 91 show is Shoreline on the 12th and it's FOB probably available on the Archive. Couldn't tell ya anything about it off the top of my head.

    >Forensicdoceleven>
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    RE Woodstock

    Perfect back yard recreation. Hahahaha. :)

    Just listened to my old, old vinyl copy of the Woodstock Soundtrack a couple weeks ago, and even that excerpt of Hendrix is totally face melting. If I recall correctly this wasn't The Experience.

    I'm not sure I've ever heard the Dead's entire Woodstock set. Last year I was surprised to learn that CCR, Mountain, and Johnny Winter had also played Woodstock. I'm pretty sure I'd never known that. They were also not part of the soundtrack or film. Jerry, at least, makes a memorable cameo in the film.

    PT Barnum> RE Fall '91
    Near miss. I've got 8/16, and 9/17 in the library. Couldn't tell you anything about them off the top of my head. If there's one thing this group always does, it's fill in the gaps. Cheers.

    JeffSmith> RE HDTracks

    DUDE! Thank you! I've been looking for a site where I can get minimum 16b44.1 quality downloads. Being on the other side of the world, shipping even CDs is murder. One of my favorite things about nugs net is that you can buy, not hi-res, but at least CD quality downloads. I think downloads sound better than CDs, tbh. Something happens during the CD manufacturing process, or at least it has begun to seem that way to me.

  • JimInMD
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    I forgot about this one.. haven't given it a listen since release time. I'll have to change that.

  • bluecrow
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    1974 in the air I guess (isn't it always somewhere close?) as out here in the high desert I was reaching for DaP 42 and DaP 13 (Winterland Feb. '74) .

    The Road Trips series is chock full of gems. Happy to say I picked up all of them at the time with lone exception of Cal Expo '93. Of course I would love to see some of the partial shows released in full show glory (and run through Plangent) just like some of Dick's Picks need a revisit. But don't take that as a complaint, just a wish.

    Edit - DV I need to revisit the Penn State and Cornell volumes, plus the April Fools 88 show - they've been sitting there wondering if they're the chopped liver of RT. They haven't gotten the attention that the early years in that series have.

    Sort of almost the weekend. Onward!!

  • JimInMD
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    Portland... Funny, I just did 5/17 Vancouver recently. I'll hit Portland, it's been a while. I might have tossed this show out on this forum sometime in 2020. Hot hot, China Rider and that second set is interesting and pretty hot.

  • Oroborous
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    Rest of 3/15/73 seemed to get better as it went. Sweet jam in there.
    5/19/74: man I need to listen to this box more.
    Awesome jam!

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Good call for today!! Just got done biking. Trees here in Rhode Island are looking like the cover of Dick's Pick that has the Landover and Syracuse September 76 shows!! We'll see summer come again.... Feel ambitious also am going to put on the LSU birthday show after from 77... enjoy the weekend everyone Bob t

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Though Donna Summer does have many fine tunes, I’m specifically referring to I Feel Love.
Smoke a fatty, or perhaps just as the trip is starting to take hold, sit dead center with a good system and crank THAT song.....it’s a stoners delight I tell ya, Healy would be proud of all that auto panning goodness, lol......seriously, this tune is sixteen seventies stoned in your room with your black light and posters groovy cool!

Polished Jim, that’s the word. The Hampton shows from my POV are better, say as a concert going DH freak, but as a finished, professionally produced product for market, I think Nightfalls is better. The song list, the flow, tightness,(perhaps their playing more to the recording so a tad safer?), and yes, as good as Hampton sounds, it’s yet another one that frustratingly just doesn’t come through on tape and do the shows justice. We’ve touched on this before about similar feelings with 10/14/83, and 3/27/88 for starters. 10/16 does seem to breath better and is perhaps mastered better? Again, this is probably splitting hairs as all four 89 fall releases sound good, just not the same...
So big 10/16/89 tonight, need to wait for proper conditions to manifest and align with the flux capacitor etc. Maybe I’ll go for that 84 show, or sometime this WE I’ll have to spin some of that awesome Acoustic Warfield stuff from last year. Still have some killer 74 someone generously sent me to rip and crank, need to find that Dico 78 Dead that was the impetus for this ramble, and probably will start the Spectrum 89 shows to keep on the path....
Speaking of, spent a couple rotations with 10/15/89 yesterday whilst continuing my Swiss madness in the basement. Another perfectly good 89 show, but it didn’t move me as much as 10/14, which is funny cause that one had to grow on me a bit. Some of it is probably just set lists, but 10/14 seemed to build up nicely overall. 10/15 has some notable tunes for the time; Standing on the Moon, Just a Little Light, Crazy Fingers, Victum, Stella, Box oRain, and even a Far From Me! Like I say, good show, just didn’t flow for me? Probably just me....
GOLLUM, you still along for this ride? What say you old chap? And I think Jim needs to fire up the Deer and head back to fall 73 as we appear to have lost ole Bluecorn chasing some minx in the parking lot after the Syracuse show???
Ok, ONWARD!

Jim, I’m still laughing hours later after going to 36 and then rereading your hilarious but unfortunately accurate description of said stench. Oh if only Jim Lehey was still around to critique and categorize the Winds of Shit that only seem to strengthen with time throughout 2020!

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Chortled my coffee on that one. Too funny.

Living in Appalachia.., four miles from the WV border.. well, I can say is I run into Mr. Lahey (or a guy just like him) all the time at the corner beer store.

Q: What does a tornado and a redneck divorce have in common?
A: In the end.. someone is going to lose a trailer.

I need to check out 10/14/89 Oroborous, so many great shows, so little time, or maybe too much time.

Finished up this wonderful show of 10/16/89. Sound quality is A+ and I have to say for a 2001 release, unbelievably good.

I still will give the slight nod to the Hampton shows, but all three are top notch.

If you don't have NFOD, do yourself a favor and get a copy, they are still cheap on the secondary market.

I guess the Eyes have it based on the sell out speed of Dave's 36.

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Listened to 10-16-89 in the car this week, started Tuesday and since my commute is usually about 20 min each way it took until Thursday to finish the show. Yeah, I didn’t get to listen to it uninterrupted but I have listened to that show many times since getting it when it was released. At that time I was disappointed that they didn’t release 10-9-89, since I already had that on cassette. Of course, when they did release Hampton I was disappointed that I paid $60 for a release that didn’t sound better than the CD-R copies I had.
Anyway, 10-16 sounds better than Hampton but Hampton has the aura going for it. Both worthy listens in my book.
Of note, after listening on 10/9 I jumped to 3-15-90 for comparison and that made Hampton seem like training camp, performance and sound quality wise.
I didn’t make it to Hampton but my friend did and he said that there were tickets taped to the outside doors of the venue and he just grabbed one and walked in. They didn’t tear the ticket as he entered so it is still whole like the one in Oroborous’ picture.

So, I’m ahead of schedule again for an anniversary listen because I’ve got 10-19-73 playing.
Then I come here and Oro mentions Fall ‘73.....

And Jim mentions stink bombs.....

That board is actually entertaining.

Great show. I can't say any of the three we are comparing are better than any of the others. Perhaps we are splitting hairs. I am a bit biased, but that aside NFOD has a better mix.

What are we listening to tomorrow? I am going to hit DaP 35 again tonight before I probably put it down for a while. Wouldn't mind setting the wayback.. well, way back.

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hey Oro! I'm still here. I'm trying to keep up with you guys but dragging ass again. I missed 10/14/80 but will catch up to it soon. I'm still focused on the 4 released Oct '89 shows. It IS hard to pick a fave they are all so good. Hampton has the best sound for my ears. Phil's bass sounds so rich, I can just imagine it rumbling the walls of the Hampton coliseum. I'll say I prefer all of these shows to Spring 90, for the reasons we've talked about. The band sounds less polished and the jams looser and more psychedelic. I have a sneaking suspicion my favorite might wind up being 10/26, with that mind bending 45 minute Dark Star- Space. I'm still getting acquainted with it!

Ain't it grand that we have all 3 Fall '89 Dark Stars in great sound quality and they are all inspired!

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....ill spell it out because acronyms are for the lazy. FFS.
The next skull on your necklace is mine.

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10/15/84 ✔️
4/24/78 ✔️
10/16/77 (part of ) ✔️
10/16/89 ✔️
RT 2.3 Bonus 😉 ✔️
My ears are bleeding.....but in a good way!

Yeah I’d say we’re all on the same page with 10/16 “versus” Hampton.
10/16 great show, but didn’t move me as much as Hampton either night.

Manana: I think I’m going to work in those Warfield acoustic shows from last year, start early on Philly 89, and see what pops up here...

GOLLUM: glad your ok, last we saw ya you were at some rest area on the Jersey pike, “what exit“ I’m not sure...

....that reminds me. We need to start a bracket system for shows. Ala sports.
Just a random thought.
I hope I didn't start something I cant finish.

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“LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IN THIS CORNER FROM THE YEAR 1972 we have.....“.

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yep Oro, i was with my sweet mountain wildflower, far from the maddening crowds (and the DaP 36 thread.) now back in my cave in the hills. lately been diving in to the Grateful Deadcasts on Workingmans and American Beauty. I'm into that style of deep history and every episode is chock full of cool and crazy stuff. still haven't downloaded the Angel's Share for either but maybe after work today. mention here of that 1st set closing sequence for 10/14/80 piqued my interest. Jed > Let It Grow > Wheel > Music??!! that is simply amazing!!
My friend's ex (who wasn't a head like him) phoned him (he had moved to AZ) after 10/16/89 to let him know that she heard a Dark Star and that it started to snow in the Meadowlands when they were playing it.
One of the reigning champions in my corner is 10/19/73 - that'll get a deep listen later this weekend. have to put in some work hours today first.
have a great weekend everybody.

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Are The Grateful Dead Mainstream in 1989?
We’ll see, if this record does really well… - Jerry 10/13/89

Dug into some supplemental stuff while digging the Nightfall of Diamonds and there’s some pretty interesting things to check out.

As you all probably know 10/16 is the last night of the Dead’s five night run at Meadowlands, the longest run of the year, with one day off on 10/13/89.

But 10/13 was not a day of rest for Jerry.
1. Jerry does an interview for CBS This Morning with Mark McEwen in a NYC Hotel Room. He graciously sits through and thoughtfully answers questions he must’ve had to answer 100s of times over the years, nothing really new or revealing here, but it’s fun to watch & listen to Jerry. The interviewer is total cheese (sorry Mark). Jerry seems a little miffed that the Album hadn’t been released already, and says “It’s pretty good.”

2. Jerry and Bob appear on David Letterman and play Second That Emotion with Paul Schaffer and band. Odd song choice, last time played 4/29/71. They briefly mention a tour of Russia in May ’90 that obviously never happened. Dave asks “How long will you be there?” Answer “Until they let us out” - Jerry

There’s also a little 5 minute clip of the Today Show from possibly 10/13 or 14 with Bob & Jerry with Rona Elliot, typical of the time, focuses on the Dead Heads and why the Dead are still touring.

I believe the Foolish Heart Official Video had been released already, so I watched that too. Interesting.

And lastly and possibly most telling, Jerry makes an appearance on WNEW on 10/16 and answers questions from callers.
Fan Question - “You thinking of pulling Dark Star or Death Don’t or any of that out of your hat tonight?”
Answer - “Probably, those are kinda going into an active rotation.” - Jerry on WNEW 10/16/89

Fans hearing that, had to be pretty stoked about this final night of the run.

Anybody got a line on the full WNEW interview?
I could only find a short excerpt of the questions.
All the above is on YouTube if you want to check it out.

I dig this show, not sure I can make a worthwhile comparison to Hampton shows, other than they’re both hot and fun to listen too. But I think I like this set lists’ flow better. Dark Star opening the set seems to keep it light and peppy and then the Playing > UJB > Playing sequence is killer. Great Pre-drums sequence and the post drums return to Dark Star > Attics > Playing and WBYGN encore, I’ll take that any day over Dr. Mr. Fantasy > Throwing > Good Lovin’. Now if they’d only played Death Don’t out of space instead of I Will Take You Home > Miracle..

I had to check out Miami 10/25 Playing > UJB > Playing after hearing this. Good stuff there too. The Set list heads in the audience of 10/25 had to be holding their breath after that, hopefully they stuck around for the next night. 10/25 is real good. Thinkin’ I’ma gonna spend some time with it today

For you Tour heads any other stand outs you want to give a shout out for at the Meadowlands? I can’t remember any in particular, you all mentioned digging 10/15?

I agree with Gollum, it's pretty dope that they've officially released all 3 versions of the return of Dark Star from October. 30 Trips boxset sure was good for filling in some holes.
Just need the 12/31/89 Dark Star to complete the year officially. '81 & '84 Dark Stars should get that treatment as well IMO. But I guess the tapes are good for now. Speaking of '81, I knew that date was in the cosmos yesterday.. 10/16/81!! How could I not remember that connection.

I like this 1989 trip... pretty neat.
Bluecrow I’m with you on the Deadcast, check out the supplemental material, highly illuminating. Sounds like 10/19/73 is getting some play and icecremcnkd you are correct it is entertaining!
Good stuff you all.

Be Well and Enjoy Your Weekend.

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So far I’ve done every show through the 16th in order. Though their all good shows, the 14th is the one that I liked best so far (other than the 3 big dogs obviously). Really looking forward to Philly and then the 3 shows I’ve never heard.
Really curious about 10/25 as I had tickets and was originally going to Philly then Miami since we had such a good time at the 88 shows down there. But when Hampton popped up, especially as “the Warlocks” I knew I HAD to get there, which is a whole other 2 stories, one for each ticket lol. But I had been working less than a year at my job and just couldn’t swing all three. Looking back on the overall situation 31 years later I should of just gone....sigh...but given the choice, I’d still take Hampton!
So I did all three Dark Stars in a row last week and I like Hampton best. Jersey is tight, short and sweet, while Miami is a bit ruff until about ten minutes in, but as soon as the vocals are finished its like a hard left turn into amazing groovy psychedelic madness!
What’s on tap today? Bluecrow brought up 10/19/73, perhaps my favorite DPs and a top Dark Star for sure. Have to fit that in sometime soon, but when I can give it a sit good sit down. Need to finish paint & patch then straighten up the garage so want to hit some 8os acoustic, but I think y’all already went there....going to start the Philly run later as I’ve been trying to give some of these multiple plays, especially the shows I’m not familiar with. But need something short and sweet, perhaps some primal dead just to mix it up?

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OB - 10/14 you say.. all right, loading it up on the phone for some exploration. Taper's Compendium mentioned that one as well, I think DV too, so it's confirmed.

I'd say 10/14/80 for you, make an acoustic set out of the SBD of first two tracks, 4 songs on Reckoning and 4 songs from Audience, or just do the audience tape. Unless you want the whole meal deal, which is good or did you already listen to it the other day? If that's the case dive into 10/9 & 10/10. Or yeah, primal is never a bad option.

Alright my friend. Miami 10/25 sounded pretty hot from what I heard yesterday, the 10/26 Dark Star is a dark monster. Hampton was historic, so you made the right pick between the two, but yeah you probably should've gone to see them all ;)

Who am I kidding, I didn't see any shows in 1989!
Found out they were playing Dark Star again right before the show on 10/22/90. Talking to this American head who said, yeah man they played Dark Star the other night in Berlin. What have I been missing I thought?!?! Ah pre-internet days... I kinda miss them, then again, what would I do without all my time?!?!

What a trip to think about!

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For those who do torrents the 1980 project folders were recently put up on etree.
There were a couple of 79 folders too.
That was last week, haven’t checked back to see what came this week.

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I have the project folders if anyone is interested...

Have we done Two From the Vault here yet?

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Come in JiminMD

That'd be a negative on TFTV, repeat that has not been listened to yet, over.

Eyes on... and it appears to be a go.

What's your 20?
Do you copy?

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Yes, let's do it. Another Pearson Healy masterpiece. I need to find my copy from 1993. Have not listened to this one in a while.

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Sounds like a well rehearsed Grateful Dead on a mission here.. over.

Might need to include the Anthem Bonus Material from 8/23/68 as some extra credit.

Primal Sunday Morning.

so....
two from the vault
aoxomoxoa bonus
10/19/73 knocking on the door with its amazing soft moon, mist, fog, spirit-filled fields of Dark Star > Mind Left Body > Morning Dew, Sugar Mag, Eyes > Stella Blue
and . . . .
thinking this morning that in the midst of anniversary for Winterland '74 shows - so spun that always sweet first disc of GD Movie Soundtrack 'cause its starts with exuberant and joyous US Blues from 10/18 and finishes with cherry Playing in the Band from 10/16.
and then ...
1st disc from that sweet little Warfield acoustic release
and...
yesterday totally digging the latest Grateful Deadcast on Warfield '80
and....
can't say enough about Deadcast deep dives into Workingmans and American Beauty - bringing even stronger appreciation to already sacred albums
and...
typing this while listening to the listening party for Daves 36 yeefreakinghaw - Esau, Birdsong, Touch - arriving at the doorstep shortly

Ken Nordine before 8/21/93 Eugene - "you are the cinematographer"

here comes sunshine, here comes sunshine!!

I had to moooooovvvvveee,
Dooah, went from Hatrick plus on Friday to basically the bench yesterday, only got to listen to part of acoustic Warfield.
Did watch awesome documentary Marley on Bluray so great audio. Really interesting doc if you haven’t seen it.
But now I have to get going as I’m way behind. Prolly have to skip vault dos which blows cause I love that one and haven’t heard in a while. Ok, hup, hup off to it.....

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Bill Graham pulling the GD crew out on stage Winterland '74 = classic.

Nice call on the GD Movie Soundtrack. Possibly my favorite GD compilation.

Such a distinct sound to these shows.

Strider we need an October '74 at Winterland story to go along with these tunes.

Bonus Anthem / TFTV material on hold until after 4:20 ;)
8/24 is just plain great, I might give it another spin too.
And 10/19/73 tomorrow!

This GD Movie soundtrack is sounding amazing!

It's gonna be a good day.

Putting that on the docket for next Saturday.

Went to etree today and the 1981 and 1982 project folders are there.
Also a few more Millers, including a cassette master of 6-22-91 which says that tape flips were patched with the DAT SBD. Why not just put out the DAT SBD?

ICECRMCNKD: Yeah, that SBD > Cassette Master recorded by Pearson & Healy is dope, the SBD > Dat patch source has been circulating since like 2011, but this new source sounds better to me.

Maybe it's something to do with the Transfer equipment upgrades in the 9 years since that SBD > Dat source originated. I know Gans mentioned he'd just go in there and try and get as much as he could transferred and probably didn't have the super dope equipment.

Or maybe I just like the Analog gen sound, but again to me this new one sounds like an upgrade and I dig it!

Check em out and let's hear the feedback:
(NEW) SBD > Cassette - https://archive.org/details/gd1991-06-22.150648.sbd.pearson-healy.mille…
(OLD) SBD > Dat - https://archive.org/details/gd1991-06-22.sbd.gans.miller.112775.flac16

I vote Cassette Master.

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back when they first released the Grateful Dead Movie on dvd they included as bonus material honest to god ~5" section from original copies of the film in a generic small postal envelope. which strikes me now as a completely crazy dead thing. I received a section (7 complete frames, 2 partials) that is a tight close-up sequence of Jerry's hand, emphasis on hand, playing the Wolf. years ago I studied the movie long and hard trying to figure out what song it was from and as far I can tell its from the jam out of Eyes (!!)
did any of you folks out there get a snip of the film, and if so, from where in the movie?

I’ll have to compare my copies sometime. Before this new one I know I had more than one copy on a HD and the CD-R copy in my living room is around 10 yeas old.

Edit:
Hah!
Stupid reCRAPTCHA thinks that a mailbox is a parking meter.

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Luckies!

Cool collector head bonus.

Take some pics. I wanna see.

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I’ll try to figure out the scene I have next week when I watch the Movie.

Mine has pink/purple lighting and is a shot of the stage that shows part of the crowd, the front end of Keith’s piano, and several people on the stage. It looks like they are tuning up because Phil is facing his equipment and it looks like a crew member is doing something to a microphone. It’s hard to tell, I had to use a magnifying glass and a white paper background.

Note that these strips came from the film reels that were sent out to theaters when the movie was released. They’re not scraps from the cutting room floor.

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If you haven’t noticed it before, sometimes there is a SYF flag draped over Keith’s piano, and it gets rotated by 90 degrees.
I always wondered if they used that as a way to know which night the film was from.

On my film strip I can’t see enough of the piano to know if the SYF flag is there.

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Ended up playing family peacemaker today.. which involved extracting my teenage son from the grips of his foaming from the mouth mom before one of them killed the other.. decided to drop what I was doing and do some fly fishing upstream with the boy, basically get him out of the house pronto.. took the mountain bike, ebike for the kid, my mac daddy device and began the bike ride upstream to where the rapids start (really end as you come downstream). Low and behold.. no Two From the Vault loaded!! argh, thought I had that one with me.. by the time I realized this we were miles from home so no turning around.

Also had my waterproof device with me and since we were wading anyway, used that in case I slipped and fell in. It's an unlabled IPod shuffle.. I have several, so what will play is always a pleasant surprise and takes a little guesswork. They are essentially river tunes.

It took me until Bobby set a cluster of tarantulas loose on the crowded folks in the front row to figure out the show for sure.. but I knew it was 73, it was an excellent recording and I had a strong hunch it was 4/2 Boston.. and yes.. it has pleasant Bobby McGee out of space so there's that.

My favorite Bobby cover might just be Desolation Row. Haven't given that much thought but that song comes to mind.

Beautiful fall day.. got a few bites but no keepers, most importantly everyone is safe and sound.. egos restored, blood pressure down, power tools away.. knives carefully stored.. hair unclenched from the grips of the others hands.. I'm calling it a win.

So I am doing Two From the Vault tomorrow. My day was shot before it even got started. At least I got to test out some new flies and found a new absolutely gorgeous deep hole to fish next year...

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...Cowboy Bob...especially on El Paso...

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Me & Bobby McGee is a good one for sure.

If I had to pick an all time favorite Bob Cover it'd be Me And My Uncle, probably for nostalgic reasons.
1st GD Album I had was WALSTIB and I remember vividly playing LP 3 and going from the worlds of St. Stephen, Jack Straw to Me & My Uncle. And within those 3 songs I'd traveled to more places than my 15 year old pointed head could've dreamed up on my own. I guess riding the plains that day with Bob's Character & his Uncle made a profound impression on me. Too bad... he taught me so well that I grabbed that gold and left his dead ass there by the side of the road.

Doesn't get much better than that!

Fun to think / muse about.

And wow Wee wow wow... That GD Movie Soundtrack is awesome!
Hadn't listened to that in forever, speaking of forever... Tomorrow is Forever, I dig Jerry & Donna's version.
Jerry was a big Dolly Parton fan!
That He's Gone > Caution Jam > Truckin' is sick!!
And both PITB on that there gem are top notch.

And yeah TFTV continues to be awesome.

So it sounds like 10/19/73 today?
Looks like we dusted this puppy off about 5 months ago on 5/23/20 so yes.. it's due for it's Anniversary Trip!

PS - BlueCrow you all are peaking my interest in checking out that August '87 Telluride run through Utah, I don't think I've spent much time with those tapes. Sounds like you dig 'em? Might have to make some room for those this week. Spent a lot of time in Calaveras County with Carlos, but not so much in the Majestic Mountains.

This release kills it. Disc 4 is super hot. Probably one of the best UJB I have ever heard. The energy is so high. The He's Gone, into a Truckin tease, to Caution, then weaving back into Truckin, Black Peter! Some of the best performances I have ever heard.
And of course this is 74 Multi Track. I listen to this release quite a bit. That disc 4 is great for work outs.
As others have mentioned put the whole run out with video as a box set, it would be mind blowing. Dave has indicated they have even more video for future releases. It is time.

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DV - Definitely agree on the GD Movie Soundtrack. Kills it!
Made for a great listen yesterday. Could probably stay there all week.

Not sure how that got so buried in my collection... oh yeah, they keep releasing stuff every other month and there's upgrades and new stuff all the time!!

I've said it before, but if there's one good thing about the current times we live in, it's that it's the Golden Age of Collecting The Dead.

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I split mine up by date, so it’s 10-19% today. Sounds mighty fine.
(I did 10-19-73 on Friday and then redid Dark Star to end on Saturday for good measure).

Winterland in October....
Got to get the From Egypt With Love anniversary in too.
It’s not a bad predicament to be in.

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GOGD - somewhere in my vault is a cassette of Set II from the Park City show. Might just have been my favorite tape from '87. Super big rich sound and a great set of music. Not sure of the source, not even sure if it's been uploaded, but I think possibly one of the FOB sources, not the ultramatrix.

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Okay, how does 5/6/81, Dick's picks #13 strike you all?

The hidden bonus tracks on disc 2 are wild.

Everybody hang loose.

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POD first "official" pick from 1981. I'm hip, DL been playing some May '81 on Taper's Section recently.

1st night of three nights at Nassau with the off night Tom Snyder show appearance on 5/7/81.
Saw an interview with Jerry in '81 and he was talking about Snyder and appearing on the show. It's rich.

BlueCrow: Park City 8/20/87 you say? Best of '87, back in the day huh?
Alright, I'm gonna get that playing this week, maybe we can make that a pick this week or like tomorrow?

Good stuff!

Playing the Snyder '81 as we speak to give me a little '81 acoustic palette cleanse. Plus acoustic Dead at 6:20am is good ;)

EDIT: For any stat geeks out there keeping track, 9/10/81 was floated on 5/19/20 but I think the "official" pick was 5/19/77 that day.

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Still on 10/19. Just getting to the DS now.