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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1311
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    Though 3/29/83 is a decent enjoyable show, it unfortunately was only a mediocre aud, not a SB as advertised?
    Liked the Miller a little better than the other one.
    Ok Jack, and Bird song in cool spot, some status quo first setters, interesting early, alternate lyric 4th Easu, another Bob song I always liked but perhaps didn’t understand fully, lol. Nice Big RR, though not quite like those ripping 81s! Into GSET for another interesting fun set.

    Second we get the second time out for H/S/F since 77. Good, welcome effort but all three songs had some ruff spots.
    Rest pretty typical for the time with still sorta new feeling Stones and haven’t nailed the slick Segway into NFA yet.
    Rocking JBG and another sweet Baby Blue. 83 has some nice ones!
    So not a mind blower, and the Aud might scare some off, but hey, that’s what happens sometimes “when we just ride”
    Some times you eat the Baaaarr, sometimes the Baaarr eats you. But nothing ventured, nothing gained…
    Going next night, 3/30/83 for extra credit since it appears to be a SB…maybe hit Docs primal I’m behind on later?

    EDIT: DHB hat trick?…technically probably not, but did complete 3/29/83, 3/30/83, 2/2/68, and 2/3/68!
    All were dug, some more than others. 3/30 seemed a step up from 2/29/83 and the 68s were proper, forgot how much Clemtine has an ABB vibe to it, good sheet Mon!

    Don’t think I’m in the video? We were center lawn in fairly close.
    Went with the CD this go round…

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    I have always liked this show and the video. And you were there OB, that is great. Sounds like fun. Are you in the video?

    Yes. the first two songs get the show off to a great start, Truckin, at the number 2 slot! That second set jam/space after Terrapin is interesting. Charlie Miller has the whole sequence as Terrapin, but I think it moves out of Terrapin. Anyway, great stuff. Love those Baby Blue closers. If you stay tuned in after the encore they have some great bonus footage from 10/2/87 from Shoreline. Another great show.

    Alright, count me in on the 83 show!

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    Howsa bouta a little 83 energy for a Fri yea?

    6/16/90: good call DV! Haven’t heard this since the Shakedown Stream, man those were fun.
    Needed some kind of ritual at the time, even TOO watched and she ain’t really into the dead.

    Always dug a good Good Times Roll opener, usually a good sign. Fun Truckin if not mind blowing, solid Touch O,
    Nice FOTD, hot Cassidy, fun but perhaps trepid Big Boss, but fun non the less, and another slightly unusual and fun OMSN to close a fun set.
    Though the first might not of been thoroughly consistent, the second set gets going nice, good versions of most songs, and a nice China Doll in spite of Jerry struggling a bit. Rousing Mags and and always welcome sweet Baby Blue encore. But!…But, to me that whole sequence from Estimated, terrapin and all that awesome psychedelic goodness that follows is what makes this show stand out for moi.
    For a while I was thinking “this shows ok but..?, “ by half way through the second those thoughts were gone baby gone. It’s a shame JG didn’t fully nail the China as that would of really took it up a notch overall.
    Good show, even better in person, first trip to the promised land, hot 20 year old GF along, tripping the light fandango in the cool California night sea breeze. What a trip that was, sighhhh.
    Dems we’re da daze…

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    That image that shows either two faces or a chalice depending on how you look at it.
    If I try to hear those anomalies I can, but if I just crank up some tunes and don’t try, then I only notice when it gets bad, if that makes sense. Another variable: plangent etc. Those old Road Trips and Dicks didn’t have the benefit of Plangent.
    Capitol 71 bonus disc did, AND, their multitrack so if say Bobby had some weird noise issues on his line, it couid isolated and messed with. Wood really love to hear some of that deconstruction tech they used on the Beatles…

    St Louie: going in I thought I was going to dig the 73 the most, and that one disc probably is my pick of the litter. I thought I’d dig the 71, but comparatively not as much as the other 2 years. But at first the 71s really stood out to me.
    I love when that happens!
    I think I recall thinking the music was great overall, but that there were some unfortunate anomalies.
    I guess to get full shows that’s going to happen sometimes especially in years that have been mined more extensively.
    To me when it comes down to it and your properly prepped and ready, once you settle in it’s all about the music!
    Like the band entraining, after a while it all becomes one…

    DV with a call for 6/16/90. That sounds good, just not sure if I should wait and watch it, or just fire it up now?
    Thinking I might dabble this WE with the Louie…still have some primal Doc to catch up on too.
    Finally getting a few extra days off, then one last push at this job swapping out net and installing new Cisco stacking tech. Owners are supposed to be gone so maaaayyybbbeee I can catch some tunes. I really need to get a portable personal rig but I’m such a snob that would get pricey and more importantly I don’t have time, err, if /when I do have time I’d rather just sit and listen to tunes!
    So 6/16/90, think that was my 86th show, weird/cool vibe, you had to be there, or maybe it was the roses ; )

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    For me there's a certain point where both the right brain and left brain agree that it's kick ass Grateful Dead I am listening to and recording anomalies fade into a blissfull background.

    Let it be known i am a recording snob.. so it hurts by my left and right to commit to great performance vs. great recording.

    I still think so highly of this run. Warts and all, it's classic Fall '72 GD.

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    Appreciate the insight Jim, BC and OB.
    I have found sometimes, for whatever reason I hear differently after the first go around with the Dave's and the Box sets. Most of the time, I think damn this sounds so good, once in a while I think, this sounds a little off. Sometimes I panic and think my speakers must be blown. I need to go out and replace them.
    Of course, yes, we are lucky they recorded almost all these shows. We all know there are all kinds of different results of the shows and recordings for various reasons. I would think there is no way Norman finished mastering 10/18/72 and texted Dave and said you can't believe how good this sounds. I could be wrong.
    I totally hear what you are saying on the 71 shows OB. Some of them definitely have a different sound to them, Dick's 35, RT#1.3. Great, but different. And then I compare them to the 71 Port Chester shows which sound incredible and are some of my alll time favorites.

    Jim, sorry to hear about the issues you are having, definitely hard stuff to deal with.

    Let me offer up Charlie Miller's 100th show for tomorrow, 6/16/90. There is a newer version from the man himself from 2019 and the version from VFTV III.

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    So I saved.. squirrelled, pinched pennies for 45 years and finally dropped the dime on my dream system I have been planning for all these years. I went completely with Fender Amps on the recommendation of some guy named Hal and now I read this.

    What are these McIntosh items of which you speak?

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    OB- Kenny Ban??. The Fatigues episode.

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    Man I wish I had time….for anything lol
    I’ll try to check some more of these audio anomalies out this WE.
    Hit me with examples if ya got em.

    Ive noticed this phenomenon with other recordings, think mostly 71-72s.
    Definitely could be tape degradation and/or perhaps a little oversaturated originally, but I think there’s amp distortion going on too? They were still mostly using dirty fender power at this stage. So like any real Rock and roller by the end of the night the amps are on 11 etc and with those old tube power sections/power supplies their easy to overdrive.
    By 73 they had pretty much fully switched to big McIntosh power amps, though they were still using the Fenders for pre amps. Like your pre amp at home though, you wouldn’t be pushing the pre amp that much (let the power amp do the heavy lifting). Think overworking a small car engine versus barely stepping on a big V8.
    Could be compromised cabling somewhere. Could be dirty and/or insufficient venue power too? That’s the problem with E lic tri city though, could be a number of things. Probably a bit of all the above…

    Yep BC, glad your digging the nice February weather. These days where it’s sunny and up in the 30s, “it’s gold Jerry, gold I tell ya! I should try to check out the ole St Louie, Louie, box, another I’ve barely been introduced too.
    Hoping 🤞I might be getting a little quality time off soon.

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    The '72 shows from the not quite the Fox Box have been in and out of the disc drive several times the past few weeks. All great for sure. I know first run through that it was the 10/19 jam that really kinda floored me. Yesterday listening to 10/18 again with the sound quality question in mind. One thing that struck me was that Keith sounded muddy and almost sort of kind of out of tune. I pay a lot of attention to Keith's playing, especially the "earlier days." Something was off and my guess was it was a SBD thing, how he was miked, and not Keith. (Edit - or as Jim suggests maybe some tape degradation.) Bobby's guitar also sounded a bit fuzzed in a recording artifact kind of way, though not unpleasant in any sense. But none of that stopped me from a thoroughly enjoyable listen. There was a point during the Dark Star where I was suddenly in a zone of complete wonder - a place that reminded me of my first deep "now I understand" listen to the Rotterdam Dark Star (on my weird balance SBD many many years before the box.) A really very cool place to be inside the music. So yes, that Disc 2 is some serious magic. One thing struck me as funny is Donna's yell in the Playing Reprise. I have no issues with her singing in those early days, truly dig it. And that Donna Playing ROAR was maybe the most primal vocalization I've ever heard from her. She was feeling the "Holy Spirit" big time!! Loved her quick soft little "Thank you Thank you Thank you" after it was all said and done. Another truly epic jam sequence.
    Listening to 10/19 Disc 1 right now this morning. Keith is hard right - i think he was slightly left of center 10/18. A little lower in the mix, tone sounds better to my ear. I'd have to do a hard A / B to be sure that my thoughts are correct on that. Now on Sugaree and Keith's piano and Jerry's vocals have now moved to center of the sound stage. I think Keith sounds a little better than 10/18 but still a tiny bit muffled? Maybe its my brain, who knows.
    Thanks DV for suggesting 10/18 awhile ago. I feel like these are my first really good deep listens to the '72 shows from that box. Like you said, great stuff. I ran through '73 a week or so ago and need to revisit that. At the time I remember thinking that the '72 resonated with me more and given that '73 is generally a big fat sweet spot for me I know that my head may have been ever so slightly out of alignment.
    To echo KeithFan over on the 45 thread - I'm really really digging Dave's 45. Spectacular sound. Great playing. Boy are we some lucky Deadheads. It was 10/1 Set II that really got me first run through. The Black Peter is so freaking gorgeous. And then the "random current" of that CB or whatever for a couple seconds and its like oh my freaking goodness. I can only laugh. Really, Universe? I first heard 1/31 NOLA last year while exploring a little around the 2/6/70 Fox (personal favorite.) I remember being very pleasantly surprised to find that they played that acoustic set. I think every single acoustic set they have in the vault needs to be released. Gave 1/31 acoustic another run through Sunday morning. Woke up from a short nap late Sunday afternoon and had Sawmill chorus running through my head again and again. I"m like "What is this song? where do I know it from? Oh Yeah, Bobby sings it on 1/31!" Talk about a poor boy, talk about a poor boy, let me have a dollar bill.
    Nice Poster Oro!! Your first show! Glad that the Almanac shone a light on your post - hadn't seen it. Another beautiful day here in paradise. Always loved this time of year in the high desierto. Onward!!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 08:19

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37 years ago at the Marin Veterans Auditorium, they played the last St.Stephen. I had a lot more fun the night before, 10/30/83, when we all dosed, fun city. My favorite Halloween show is 10/31/69 from San Jose State. I saw the Garcia Band on 10/31/86, the Oakland Auditorium kinda swallowed them up, when you were used to seeing them at Keystone Palo Alto.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 09:37

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Just scored 5-9-77 vinyl at a local shop, $125 + tax.
There were 2 copies, another guy was there at the same time and grabbed the other.

Sounds awesome, but the curse of vinyl means that you have to flip the record after Slipknot!

DaP 36 is ‘in transit by post office’, so fingers are crossed that it comes today.
AB50 is also supposed to arrive today.

Good thing clocks turn back tonight, I’ll need that extra hour for listening if in fact all the CD’s show up.
Not sure if I’ll get in the Halloween anniversary listens, I’ve heard them all many times and the new arrivals may have to come first. We’ll see how things play out tonight.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 13:13

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Fifty years ago this time I had arrived at Stony Brook by hitchhiking from the panhandle, of Connect over the Throggs Neck Bridge and out the Island to S.U.N.Y. First time seeing the Dead away from the Fillmore. 1970 rural Long Island would have been a different world from now.
Charlie from Brooklyn was numero uno Dead Freak in those days. I met him before the Halloween shows at the student union. He was playing a cassette he made the night before on a high end recorder, boom box. To my memory that was the first Dead tape I ever heard aside from records. Vintage Dead and then Historic Dead were considered like bootlegs.
I recently listened to the complete night from 10/31/70 during the last full moon October 1, same time as breaking a four month Ganga fast. It was blissfull. Otherworldly. NRPS was great with Garcia on pedal steel. Relisten ing now. I easily bought tickets for the two shows. Although everyone was let in free for late show around midnight. I vaguely recall being on Gymnasium floor for early show. Late show was on the top bleacher on the end closest to the stage not 80’ away. One light projection man had a wizard get up with a pointed hat. Pigpen wore a psychedelic fireman’s hat, (for a few songs)each section was painted a different day-glow color.
After the late show ended (3am or later?) I left the Building out the exits behind the stage. Met Pigpen in passing as he was getting in his limo as I was funneled down the police barricade right behind him. I told him thanks, he asked me “did jya have a good time?” , to which I replied. “Definitely!”, . Pig;”that’s good”. My one time meeting the man.
Afterward vaguely remember catching a ride in a Dodge Challenger that drove close to a 100 mph. Over the dawn Troggs Neck Bridge with no traffic. Dropped off in New Rochelle , got on a train for the last stretch. Home by 8am.
The Viola Lee Blues into Cumberland Blues is so excellent.! Happy Halloween

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 16:31

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Happy Halloween all. Pretty cool Dennis, sounds like a blast. I never made it to a Halloween show.

Yes, GOGD, I watched the Preshow with DL.
I think Jim had some comments on this as well last night....
What a drag, they recorded over some of the master reels for Brent's solo stuff. What a bummer.
They used two 16 track to record the whole run.
Per DL there is definitely material available, fair amount, half or more, but not complete shows. DL stated a multi track box release is not necessarily feasible.
So this stinks.

He did mention they still have the mixdown tapes and the sound is okay.

Could they make a box set from mixdown tapes?

Seemed to me that the Warfield Radio City box is a long shot at best. They looked into it in the early 2000s and we are sitting here in late 2020.

Thank god they didn't record over other tapes. We have had some unbelievable releases.

Stay well out there.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 17:11

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Strider, very cool story meeting Pig Pen. You saw the Grateful Dead at their peak, 1970, their greatest year as far as I'm concerned.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 20:34

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Great times.. wish I was there. Thanks for sharing. The closest I got to a New Years show was 11/1 once. Oh well.

I did finally get through a quite uninterrupted listen of Dekalb. A high energy show with flawless transitions. Still far from my favorite from '77, but it is a great show. Perhaps I am just splitting hairs.

I will say this, this is one of those shows you really need to play loud, from Might As Well to the end.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/01/2020 - 06:43

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Listened to 10/31/70 NRPS early show yesterday. Early show Dead last night with full moon. Viola into Cumberland rocks. Second set this morning at 420 am with coffee, full moon. Today is Todos Santos , All Saints Day or Day of the Dead. Fifty years ago at Pritchard Gym at S.U.N.Y. I remember it took a long time before they opened the doors for the late show. There was a very large crowd at the gym entrance. Nevertheless way less intense than in the city for a Dead show. Sometime after 11pm they finally let everyone in for free, they did not collect tickets. As NRPS was around midnight the late show Dead set was technically November 1, Day of the Dead.

Wow, meeting Pigpen.
That's a keeper for sure.

Strider do you recall your impression of the difference between the Gymnasium vibe and the Fillmore East or what you were thinking about the scene in comparison?
EDIT: Mind Meld Bro!! I see you were just discussing this in your post below 1 minute before I posted this question.
Diff vibe from the city. I'm thinking FE vibe had to be intense!

Also I wonder if that tape Charlie-O was playing came from the SBD that the Sound Crew made?

Thanks for sharing man, Great Story!

In regards to 10/31/70 tape, the Taper's Compendium mentions the following:
Bobby going into "a tirade against some nameless soundman. After Pigpen threatens to rip off the head of the aforementioned sound engineer and defecate in it, the problems seem to get resolved, thereby saving the show from a decline into fecal ultraviolence." - Haha, I love that line.... (Shout Out - Nice work Paul Bodenham & Taper's Compendium Crew!)

However, I don't hear that anywhere on the "tapes" I've got or the sources on Archive.org.
Supposedly it happened after Cosmic Charlie. Anybody got that / hear that on "tape"?

It might be the case where the source mentioned in Taper's Compendium isn't in digital circulation, but now I'm curious what's going on there. If anybody has info on that, let me know as I was looking forward to hearing that all day and darn it, I'm not hearing that anywhere.

Started listening to 2/18/71, it's sounding good friends. Strider was that your next show?
EDIT: Scratch that question you were at all 4 nights at the Cap in November '70. You Lucky Dog You!!!

Alright, well this is probably long enough as I spent some time already today on... 30 Days of the Dead!
Guessed it, if you can call searching through other versions and comparing a guess.
Do people actually just remember the version upon hearing it, or how does that work for you all?
I remember the first year just thinking how in the world do these heads know this shit?!?!?
Now.. I might be there. Is that a good thing? Not sure.

Anyhow, if you read this far, thanks for visiting and I hope you have a wonderful day!
Go play Dead.
I'm gonna finish up 2/18/71 today and might have to do it all over again.
Good stuff!

PS - if this wasn't so long already I would've talked a bit about 1977-10-29 - Sounded ripping / Might As Well is a power house version and the energy seems to stay there, but I was distracted and didn't finish. And 1980 Warfield / Radio City Reels, 2 Track & Multi-Track but it'd all be speculation.

That’s everyday for folks here.

Just started spinning 2-18-71 and it sounds spectacular!

USPS is in possession of my DaP 36, but apparently they have to accept the package. So current status is “received, the acceptance of your package is pending”.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/01/2020 - 11:36

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Mcgaw Memorial Hall.... 11/1/73 Evanston!! Morning Dew>Playing>UJB>Playin!!! Last show of the tour that started in Oklahoma City... Next up Winterland 73 a week later!!! Don't think the first set of 11/1/73 circulates but i could be wrong... The snow has melted here in Rhode Island... Made it through the first Hartford 87 show last night... I cheated and listened to the Wall Song from the upcoming 5/21/71 Jerry show,, really good I have to say... Bob t

Bob T, 11/1/73 that's a good call, Now I wanna give that a listen.
No Set 1 that I'm seeing, anybody got it?

Got caught up in 2/18/71. Wow great sound quality. Really cool to hear Ned's contributions so well. Can't remember if they showed up in the ole bootleg, but they're nicely placed in the mix here. Good stuff.

Whose playing 30 Days Guesses?

Today is fun.

BTW I really dig the 5/12/79 Set 2 material in Taper's Section today.
SBD doesn't circulate so check it out.
Has some reel flips in Terrapin & NFA and a few drop outs in PITB. But if you haven't heard it, it's worth a visit.
I like '79 cool year.

Alright, lmk if there's a pick today.
Lots a Dead a happening.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 12:47

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Send us a pick GOGD.

I am thinking 11/4/77 for Wednesday. Colgate, Dave's #12.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 15:13

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How about 3/26 & 3/27/87?

I just got mine today. Anybody else on here get there's?

Or 2/18/71 needs a nice day of listening...

Couldn't resist, the Dead has landed.

Otherwise give 11/1/73 a listen, it's late in the day and it's only a partial Set 2.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 15:17

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I'm no help.. hopelessly behind again. I'm in for Colgate though. It's been years since I listened to it. ..and fresh off my (our) other recent Fall 77 listen, quite timely. If we did something, something short as the hour is getting late.

Greek 68, 30 Trips, Holfheinz Pavilion 72? Something like that??

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 16:09

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I don't have my Dave's 36, maybe by the end of the week. Don't know why some of us get these so much later than others. Don't blame you for cracking it out.

Shoot, you have people getting them in Europe faster than here in MN.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 16:46

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I was lucky and got Dave's Saturday, and the 2/18/71 show arrived today... (That one just sat in pre-whatever and just showed up US mail).. I am listening to the Omni 6/20/74 show, just started. I listened to 6/8/74 yesterday.. Trying to listen to my neglected 74 shows.... Roanoke is up for tomorrow. have a good night everyone. bob t

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 06:41

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..but I live in the middle of nowhere. Mail still comes via pony express and coal train.

Maybe today?

Roanoke sounds like a good pick for today. I always thought it was one of the lesser shows from '74, but I'll take 'lesser' show from '74 any day of the week. Nice eyes encore. I should get some time later today. Things are beginning to ease up a bit.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 07:39

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On Playing already for end of first set... I know why i gloss over this show, and it is because of set II. There is a 10 minute US Blues that goes into Promised Land.. That is it for the jam. Eyes encore... Well played, good Charlie Miller board. Like i said in previous post, I neglect 6/8 Oakland, 6/20 Atlanta (No tapes available back in the day), Roanoke, and the 9/14 Muenchen show... Bob t

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 09:38

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I'm in. Im not familiar with this show, but it is close to the Selland Arena show. How bad could it be ; )

I hope everyone voted today!!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 10:31

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That PITB is a hot one. Perhaps the highlight of the show. Staring the second set now.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 11:46

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Agreed Jim. I like in the Playin how they break it down about 13 mins in with Jerry doing some nice runs up and down the neck with the wah wah and Billy filling the space with toms.

Im at MAMU in the 2nd set. What really strikes me about this show is how much Keith is on the Rhodes, and how out front in the mix he is. I dont remember him playing a Rhodes for a whole show like this. I'll have to revisit Selland and see if this show may be an outlier.

I really liked the smooth transition from Mississippi to Must Have Been the Roses.

I probably haven't given this show its due because there're no big 2nd set jam, but like Jim said, that 1st set playin is killer and probable makes up for it. I'm looking forward to this Brokedown in the late 2nd set ballad placement, which is a rarity.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 12:49

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All in all a nice show. First set is better than 2nd set, which is odd for this vintage. Mississippi to PITB was the highlight. Not sure what they were trying to do in that US Blues. Seems like Billy didnt get the message or something. They never really righted the ship after that.

Keith was the star of this show though, taking over on the Rhodes. Release worthy? I dont know. Sounds quality is there but the second set fizzles. Maybe one of the last '74s to see the light of day. Still, lots of fantastic music and very glad i spent 3 hours of my work day jamming to this.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 13:19

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Shorter show for 1974. Good show, sound quality is really good for the most part. I really liked Biily's drumming in the summer of 1974. For some reason no Eyes of the World Encore from the version I listened to from Relisten.

Good pick Bob t.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 13:59

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My version doesn't have it either.. Show's how good my memory is. Decent little show. I agree with the comments that a big jam sequence in the second set would have improved this one. Still, some very nice moments.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 18:49

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so last week i zigged while most everybody zagged. went on a '74 search - that's where my main vibe was. first listened to Springfield 6/30 - fantastic show! then Roanoke, with that excellent and very cool Playing, and solid playing overall, and a mysteriously missing major jam sequence but still fun. so its a cool coinkydink to see everybody dialing in on Roanoke last day or so. first night of Jai Alai after that. then Roosevelt Stadium show from 8/6. today was listening to another new '74 for me, the Olympia Hall in Munich 9/14 - there is a really really sweet Usborne matrix of that show - highly recommended! and finished with the last show of that European tour which at times is as deliberate as anything i've heard from that era. morning dew seemed remarkably slow.
i too voted for sanity. be well everybody.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 05:40

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Looking forward to putting this show on today. Short show. Bonus for 11/2/77.

Stay well out there folks.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 06:40

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I found this note on the Archive from Sirmick on his AUD transfer (132282): "A reviewer at archive.org says "This was a weird event-the band was somewhat scared of the crowd which was yelling at them the whole time." and "There was no encore at this concert-the eyes thing is an error perpetuated through the years starting with deadbase. The Dead left after Johnny B Goode and I think they were glad to get out."
https://archive.org/details/gd1974-07-27.akgd200e.unk.sirmick.132282.sb…

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 13:00

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No cavity creeps here!!! Love the Aiko coming out of drums, this one and the RPI Fieldhouse show are my two favs from this era!!! I had an audience tape of this show back in the day that was amazing quality!!! Aiko just coming on... the whole second set is pure bliss!!! Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 18:48

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Disc 3 of Colgate show...... Scarlet>Fire forgot how good it was, I like the Broome County one a few days later but totally forgot about this one... Good night all. Bob t

Yes, Bob t, Disc 3 of Dave's 12 for me might be the best part of this release.

Another chunk of this show appears on Dick's 34. Should we check out 11/5/77, Dick's #34 for tomorrow?

11/2 is a bit under the radar..

This whole release smokes, high energy and excellent recording. I made it through discs 1 and 2, #3 awaits. Good pick Bob. I need a refresher course on this one, it's been a long time.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 11/05/2020 - 05:40

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Is there good video of that show? I heard a young lady came up and gave Jerry a big hug and kiss at the encore.

-edit- A kind soul somehow posted a review of this show IN THE FUTURE YESTERDAY over on Internet Archive. Of course, I was wondering how the heck that happened, maybe minor digital glitch? Anyway here it is to shed light on my recollection and for you to enjoy! :-)

Have a Grateful Day today everybody :-)

Reviewer: MtnHigh73 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 6, 2020
Subject: Bill Walton's Birthday Show... Sweater Incident
I was at the show. It was one of my first Dead shows and a memorable one, and I want to set the record straight...

Love the crystal clear soundboard recording...
Lots of mention of Boston Celtics players sighted at this show, and to set the record straight. This was "Bill Walton's Birthday" show, and at the beginning of the 2nd set, the band came out. Bobby announced, "It's our buddy Bill Walton's birthday (with full echo effect), and we'd like to sing happy birthday to him, and you can all join in...". You can hear the end of happy birthday on this awesome soundboard version... the audience version of this show has the full announcement before Shakedown.

Anyways this show ripped, and my twin brother and I (not a head) dosed and were in the 1st 10 rows for the entire 2nd set. Memory is a whirlwind of sights and sounds, but I remember dancing my ass off to the Good Lovin'.

THE BEGINING OF THE ENCORE (capitalized because I went on to see more than a hundred shows after this and never saw the next thing happen ever again)... a woman jumped on to the stage with a thick wool-like sweater that buttoned down in the front. She DRAPED THE SWEATER OVER JERRY'S SHOULDERS... just as he started to sing the opening lines to Brokedown Palace... then she was ushered off the stage. The sweater remained on his shoulders the majority of the song, and by the end, it was hanging by one arm off of Jerry. I distinctly remember seeing the woman join her friends back a few rows in front of us during the encore. I'm getting goosebumps writing and recalling this... after the show, my brother and I, two sweaty 16-year-olds leaving the Centrum, and my twin brother turned to me and said: " We got closer to Jerry Garcia then some people do in their entire lifetime!".

The next morning, burnt out catching a ride with my Dad to school, the local Boston radio station announced, " the Celtics were off last night and Bird, Mchale and Ainge accompanied Bill Walton to a Grateful Dead show in Worcester"... goosebumps.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/05/2020 - 19:37

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I never burned this Dick's Picks. So When I put it into my computer, love that a picture of the Lincoln, NE/ Salt Lake City 73 Dick's Picks CD picture shows up.....Just got to the Phil Jam>Eyes of CD #2.... Anyone in the mood for June 29, 1976 Chicago tomorrow... Big fan of the 5th and final Mission in the Rain!!! Good night all... Bob t

This is a gem in my book Bob t. Of course the chop job, but it is still really good.

I am up for 6/29/76, hope there is a good board out there. Mission in the Rain!

Big fan too.. I think the best of the few played.

I'm in. I did the first set of the first show in the June 76 box yesterday on my bike ride. I was in the mood for some crystal clear dead and it was in the device I picked up.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/06/2020 - 06:55

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Deadvikes there is a really good board as well as a FM copy from WXRT.. That whole June tour had the last show of whatever stop broadcast.. Jim i also agree with the crystal clear sound of the 76 box!! Surprised that Mission in the Rain didn't make it two weeks later into the Orpheum run in San Francisco. Bob t

I am working my way through it late. The Betty is sounding good. Another show that was part of the ABCD LLC transaction. Maybe some day.

My Dave's 36 is now scheduled for tomorrow. We will see. Love this system.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 09:45

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Maybe a little Crotchfester from 11/7&8/85 sometime this weekend, perhaps extra credit as GOGD would say....
By the way, where is that rascal?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 10:00

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I'm doing 11/7/71 today.

I have not listened to the War Memorial shows yet.. I would be interested to check them out.

I'm in.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 10:27

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Have garage work to do: sanding etc so need some good working music! Plus, I’ve been doing the “five year anniversary” plan for years since it’s hard and very limiting to try and do every anniversary. So for instance this year being a “0” that means I shoot for 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, and 95. Since that still leaves a lot, next criteria is shows from those years I was at, thus, going 85...but,
Have been starting a 71 bender though as I went totally grateful yesterday after grueling gig with no tunes this week.
Vegged out to 2/18/71 and was digging it so much followed up with 2/19/71...perfect as I was so whooped I don’t think I could have fully grasped a big spacey show, and Rockin later years would have been too much energy in my delicate state lol.
Realized, that there isn’t much difference between sets then, meaning 2/18 at least is like 2 bookend sets. They both are mostly just songs, with one tasty smaller jam at the end. I need to find more early 71 jams, like biggins’ if there are any? Where’s GOGD or DOC when ya need em? ; )
Definitely going to Poke around there as time allows. Really hoping to finally get to 10/19/73 tomorrow if time allows a full immersion. Haven’t givin that one a spin in a while and it always calls to me in the fall.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 13:27

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Been preoccupied. Will consider what to write about being there fifty years ago. Attended all four nights.
David Lemeiux was born November 8, 1970. Must have been something in the ethers that day. Pre-destined.
My late brother Rick was at the Harding Theater one of those nights 49 years ago.

I've listened to this show once.. I am going to try and give it a second listen.

I love the last half of this comment from setlists.net

"Finally, the space interlude in the Dark Star is some of the scariest Dead I have ever laid ears on. Its like the Book of Revelation--it'll scare the crap out of you. Listen to it at one in the morning with no lights on, at a loud volume, alone, and check back with me. WOW!"