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  • Hal R
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    Hello Sunshine Daydream and Tiger Lilly
    Seems like this late night guy in the western U.S. is just signing off when you are signing on in the a.m.Good Morning to you both and to cosmicbadger whenever he gets up and around to here. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. Wiliam Blake
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    Hello Old Hippie A vine is a chain of people copying and then passing on a master set of CDs/DVDs containing (in this case) good quality/rare shows. Go to the following place for more information on current Vines in Europe . . Home » Forums » Dead Heads » Tapers >Vines Across the Waters Detailed Explanations of how it works are on Page 3 of the forum There are two Eurovines going at the moment with a few more to start soon. You may have to search back through the forum for the start point of any vine to see full listings of what it contains. Make sure that when you add your name you do so to the last posting on any particular vine. Good luck!
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    I read about a vine being set up. As I am quite new in this community I would like somebody explain to me what a vine is and how it works.
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    We live near Amsterdam. We live on a sailboat very close to the beach.Let us know when you come to Amsterdam.
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    Hey Tiger Lilly, how is Spain? What part are u in? A bit more sunshine than back here in Germany huh!? :) And Old Hippie, what part of Holland are u in? I'm in Hamburg, not far from Holland! I might head over to the 'Dam in a weeks time after I take care of a few important bits and pieces! :) Are you kind?
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    Have seen a documentary once about the Touareg and their music-or I think were called that-some are from what is now Mali, right? Anyhow was really fascinating music and "exceptionally impressive" like you said. And talking about ancient folk music, have really been enjoying a c.d. I have of Mongolian folk music these days. The voice singing in two tones, and natural rhythms of the steppes are really great! Perhaps I should vine it, if anybody is interested?********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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    Just read the post from Cliffl. He mentioned Tinariwen. For those who don't know this group it is a group of Touareg playing traditional and self written songs on electric guitars and traditional instuments. Very traditinal music with hardly any Western influences. We saw a show in The Melkweg in Amsterdam and we enjoyed it very much. There was a lady singer. She wore no veil but a big scarf that sometimes covered her hair, but mostly it was draped around her shoulders. The men were completely veiled, even when they were singing. It was an exceptional impressive show. Their CD is certainly worth listening to if you like the music from Northern Africa.
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    Hi,I live in Holland and for many long years I have been a fan of the Grateful Dead. It started with Workingman’s Dead in 72. Slowly I collected more records and later CD's. I have never seen them live. Therefore I missed the whole scene with the crowd and the chance to meet other Dead Heads. About ten years ago I met another Dead Head in a music store and we started exchanging CD's. After I while we had the whole official collection complete. By that time I got fast Internet and I discovered the sites with the taped shows. I was really amazed that there were still so many people that are as much a Dead Head as I am. Many even more so. I thought for a long time that I was still stuck in my youth refusing to grow up. I realize now that this is more then a childish thing. The music is both sereous and joyful. Luckily my partner is as much into this as I am. We enjoy listening to the music with earphones on. If someone passes by there is deep silence with once in a while an exclamation of: “Great, huh?”. What we miss are other people to share what we enjoy. I have read in the Taper’s Compendium of sessions where the music is played to a group of people. Only once we went to a show in the Melkweg in Amsterdam where The Movie would be featured. But the tape was in such bad condition that the show was cancelled. I wonder if there are more Dead Heads in Holland I would like to get in contact. Maybe we can try to organise a session in or near Amsterdam. Please let me know if you are out there.
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    Boom, boom! ...but seriously, I have to check out Switzerland AND Brussels!!! Just finished a big tour around Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus and Russia! Did gigs in Tallinn, Minsk and Brest and just roamed around the rest meeting far out folks! Crazy to play gigs in a dictatorship! I'll post some vids from that on youtube later this week. Highlights: Not getting arrested for playing freedom music in Belarus, even after doing a medley on the street in front of the Presidents Palace and having it videoed. Hitching a ride on a boat to cross a river I didn't see on the map in rural Estonia and not missing the bus I was trying to catch. Having a Belarus soldier help me out taking me around Brest even letting me wear his army hat for a photo op in front of T-34 tanks at a war memorial. Finding out there really are good folks out there, everywhere, who are "on to IT"! :) Are you kind?
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    I was there in 1971 when I was in grad school. I really liked it. What's it like these days?
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Gather here and tell us your stories! And thanks to TigerLilly for the suggestion!
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I am not Spanish but live in the mountains of the province of Granada, in the south of Spain I used to trade with a person in Madrid, and also one in the Basque country. Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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The weather here is still warm, a bit cooler than the last few days as we no longer have the wind blowing hot air from the Sahara Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Thanks for the weather update, Bob. Will be a long and tedious journey tomorrow, leaving here at 6:30, a.m. arriving there at 3:30. Am prepared for slight system shock thanks to your "weather report suite"! :-) Also means I will be quiet here for a few days after today, back online on Sunday.
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Let's just say that I can communicate w/Mexicans much better. Have heard the special Andalucia dialect, and will require practise to catch the speed and the letter dropping/word running together. Not to mention that my brain runs through English, German, and French vocabulary before coming up with the Spanish words/grammar when speaking myself. But that is just a matter of practise; I suppose.
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This village is a nightmare, they don't just drop letters, they drop whole words sometimes. you get the occasional sentence that is just one word - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Village/rural dialect is often worse than city dialect. Is certainly the case in Germany. Some villages neighboring here have a dialect that it almost like another language, and almost incomprehensible at first, even when someone understands the dialect of THIS village where we live now (with a whopping 2,000 inhabitants). How small is your village?
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Safe journey and keep on shining! Let us know how you are when you can!
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There are no more 200 people live here all the time, about half of them are around the 80 mark Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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cosmicbadger. Will give the first Spain update on Sun/Mon. And Spanish Bob, that IS a tiny village!
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200..its a metropolis..we've got 23 and most of them are related to eachother!
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It is a reasonable size village but hardly anyone lives here most of the time. It is full village fiesta time and Christmas and Semana Santa probably 800-1000 people There is no work here apart from subsistence farming so most of the younger people have moved to the coast or elsewhere in Spain Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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..waiting for tapers section eh? How sad are we?
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apart from the 3 english families in the village the rest are all related - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bob Spanish Jam
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I am listening to some April May Ts's at the mo. They arrived in the post today, now working my way through 3 DVD's of them Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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yaargh just had 2 jobs come in...14 days to compile a huge report then 8 days in Thailand ..won't hear much from me for a while (sighs of relief all round!) still, things had been a little quiet on the work front so can't complain!! bye
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-So no need to work it has taken me about year to upgrade the house Chilled Here There are more Donkeys than cars here Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Hi Lilly, I am living quite near you, in Ingelheim/Mainz, Rheinland-Pfalz. Thanks for the links Bob. I'll check them out. Have a nice week.
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to welcome Rene to Spain a few hours early, but by 3:30 it should be plenty hot Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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a discussion on Snails teeth for a change - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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this is from Eurotraders Just a reminder that this happening is happening on Saturday. En bref: Auditorium ENMD (Ecole Nationale de Musique et de Danse), 13 avenue de la Resistance, 93100 Montreuil (Metro Montreuil). Starts 21.00. Entry 5 euros. More info at http://bib.quoideneuf.free.fr/index.html and http://www.ridethewind.org/Deadicace.htm Neil's booked the trip - hope others will make it. Any questions, just get in touch Hey, hey, come right away .... Bill just finished watching Barry and Green Ray from SOL Party 7 7 7 and this will be worth watching hopefully someone will record this Bob w - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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How's it going with the move and all?
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Thanks for the inquiry, marye! Am just back and my head is spinning! Will write all about it tomorrow.
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good to hear you're safe and sound, if spinning!
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am all choked up that people I never even met in person before are asking about my trip. Incredible!Travel on Tuesday was pretty strenuous and LONG! Left home at 6:30, and got to Sevilla at just past 4:00, after a bus, three different trains, and two airplanes from 2 different companies. Sevilla was warm, and quite a change from what weather had been in Germany when I left. Was crazy hectic, with trying to find a place to live in 4 days, absorb some of my new Spanish working environment, learn my way around Sevilla a bit more, and and and. Ate ALOT, which was good-something I don't usually manage at home, but the cuisine there is sooo great-fresh seafood and vegetables and things. And tapas!!! Appartment hunt was discouraging at first. Looked at a couple of places that were complete shit (was looking for a furnished appartment for the beginning) One was really dirty, with the former resident's grease all over the kitchen, one was in a bad neighborhood where I would have had to be careful leaving alone at night, and one place was really great. In the center of the city, in an old Sevilla-style appartment house, with a patio in the middle and tiles on the walls of the inside halls. Was small and slightly expensive, but clean. Was leaning towards that one for a few hours. And THEN my new boss José went to his doctor to have his allergy shot. Came back and said that his doctor's daughter had bought an appartment and fixed it up, then lost her job and moved back home. The doctor said he'd be willing to rent the appartment to José. We went to look at it that evening, and is perfect! Absolutely perfect! Is beautifully decorated, has a living room and two bedrooms, a brand new kitchen (washing machine is still not connected yet), has a little balcony off the bigger bedroom, and again is just perfect. I would feel like that is my home in a very short time, which is important, as outside in Sevilla will be strange and hectic for a while. Am chosing to view having such a stroke of luck of finding that appartment as a sign that that is what I am supposed to do. Appartment is 3 minutes walking distance from José's house (which is a big relief for he and his girlfriend, who seem to think they have to keep their eyes on me in the beginning) and 20 minutes walking to the office. Was also doing a little bit of work, and found the working atmosphere to be very friendly and comfortable. Guys were really nice and helpful, driving me to viewing appointments, helping me look through the ads offering places, and all sorts of things. Wshew! Am back here until after my daughter's 10th birthday on the 17th, but will go back for a longer stretch on the weekend of the 22nd. Transition will be emotional and sad, but will go as well as such a thing can. All the new co-workers being so caring about making things go as smoothly as possible is so wonderful. One guy Dario is sad about me living alone, and has promised that he and his wife will visit often. And it seems that the Sevillians are very friendly and active-life style is totally different from here in Germany. Everyone stands around on the street at night, talking to everyone passing by. I am trying real hard to be positive, can you tell? Will break my heart to leave my kids behind.
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Tapas is something you have to get used to here. Sevilla is the capital of Tapas. Different parts of Andalusia are different about charging for tapa. Here whenever you buy a beer or wine you are given a tapa, in other parts you have to buy them. Not too much seafood here though living in the mountains it tends to be more meat based tapa. in some bars even wild boar and Venison Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I liked most of the kinds of tapas that we tried. Except for the ones with mayonnaise, but don't like mayo w/anything, so... The one with octopus and potatoes and olive oil and garlic was very good, as was the spinach and garbanzo beans in a bowl tapa. Seems as if in Sevilla you get olives and crackers w/beer and wine, but have to order tapas. But this is after only a limited experience, so will see. I really like the option of eating just a little bit of all sorts of things.
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most of the big cities are like that apart from in local bars Granada and Malaga certainly are are finding it cold in Germay now ? Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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is fecking cold here, and am not just talking about the weather! Do you have any tapas recipes that you particularly like, or Spanish cuisine? If so, perhaps you should post it in the "sat down to my supper" thread. Will be taking on Spanish cooking soon, and would be good to know where to start.
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most of the stuff i know is from here, not Sevilla But....... I will see what i can do I still cook what i like, ie. Indian, Mexican and Moroccan food Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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am very fond of Mexican, but NOT Indian (have a problem w/many curries I have tried unfortunately) Like Moroccan too, but is another topic ;-) Sorry-just had to say that! Like Moroccan cuisine too! So you are not to hot on Spanish cuisine? I think so far, so very good, and beats the hell out of sauerbraten and eisbein!!!!!!!!!
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I was born by the sea but HATE seafood English fish and Chips is about my limit. A lot of the cuisine here is based on Moroccan food, the moors were here for a few centuries and the part i live in is the last part of Spain they lived in, after the fall of Granada. There is a local dish called Migas which is basically fried Breadcrumbs, similar in a lot of ways to Couscous, which they eat with what ver they have, Sardines, Bacaloa (salt Cod), vegetables, It is poor peoples food. This is supposedly the poorest part of Spain, and has the cleanest air in Europe. Not too many cars still, more Burros in this village than cars Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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then will have to try migas too. I DO like seafood very much, so am hoping for many eating adventures.
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Sevilla is a good place for Seafood as you are close to the Med and The Atlantic Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Glad to hear things are working out for you. "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."
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Hello out there! Just wondering if there are any Heads in Cloggie Land? Jack Straw in Holland
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Any English Heads know him? He came to visit me at my office back in around 1990, and somewhere around here I've still got the picture he took of me sticking my head out the door at BAM. Then after Jerry passed he called me at the crack of dawn to tell me about the memorials they'd had in England, thereby causing the obit I was struggling to write to fall into place. We have, however, lost touch, and if anybody knows where he is, tell him hi for me.
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I met him before all the Europe 90 shows, we lost touch somewhere in the 90's he moved from London to Hereford area i think Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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i have just put a posting on the Eurotraders site asking if anyone knows his whereabouts. Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Have you read the vine thread-seems like the guys are willing to include us in their vine. You interested? Think it makes more sense if are more than one of us over here.
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in the music vine? Was rude of me just to ask Sunshine Daydream so exclusively! Just saw he is online now is all.
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Thanks for thinking of me, i tried to start one of the first vines on this and there was no interest, but then it was of the SOL party in Kent this July.I Still have the disc on my desk. I have all the shows offered in vines so far. There are regular offers on the Yahoo Eurotraders site, quite a few from me. If there is anything you want contact me i have quite a large list. I have most of the available 70's shows, i am still picking up the odd 70 and 71 show that i don't have. My computer is downloading very slowly 24 hours a day Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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There is still on offer at Eurotraders the Winterland shows from nov 1973, that everyone wants as a box set. If anyone is interested go there and have a look. Look for RET memorial freebie. It is the Shn/Flac files of the 3 Winterland shows and 26th October 73 show Look out there for others, my next will probably be the feb 73 Winterland shows Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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as in Summer of Love? Party in Kent? Tell me more, please. Nevermind-you had put this in the vine thread, right? Will check there.
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to give it its full title The second annual looks like it will happen July next year. it happened 7 7 7 in the sunny Kent countryside. The Bands scheduled to play Silverwood, Urban Spacemen, Cosmic Charles and Barry (The Fish) Melton and The Green Ray. There was also an unscheduled set by Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook(ex of Squeeze) the RET part of the name is in honour of an English Deadhead who died a while back who was responsible for literally 100's of vines that spread GOGD music around Europe through the Eurotraders site. I hope this makes sense Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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i suppose i could set up a few Euro vines if anyone is interested out there in cyber EuroDeadland Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Thanks Bob, you rock!
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Disc 4 of "Steppin' out" on the Stereo A glass of Fine English Ale and a glass of Bowmore cask Strength Scotch as chaser and a pipe of Alpujarran hierba a fine evening cheers Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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If anyone has not heard "Steppin' Out" it is worth a listen It is made up from English shows in Europe 72 tour Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Hi I will be offering my first Eurovine shortly. It will a DVD with probably 3 or 4 shows. As it is the first "Eurovine" it will be shows from either Europe 72 or 74 not sure which yet. I am trying to keep it this side of the pond to keep postage costs down. I have no problem if anyone wants to copy for our brothers over the ocean fine. Marye and Izzie do you want me to post it here or on the vines forum or anew forum for Eurovines Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam