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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #851
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    Ok, back to Europe

    Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
    5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
    I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
    Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
    Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
    Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
    Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
    I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
    Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
    But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
    The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
    Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
    Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
    Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
    Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
    Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
    Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
    Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
    ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?

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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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    Yes, next year hopefully - vinyl too. Bit of leisure wear to listen to it in. Nice.

    Mini boxes score where you might not want 17 shows or whatever. I wouldn't mind a few shows from Europe 1990, having attended the London ones - but I'm not sure I would want the whole lot !

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    Winterland Oct 74 Box, and we need more releases Dave/Rhino

    Hopefully it’s moving into production soon so that we get it for the 50th anniversary next year.
    With all the video included.

    I’ll take mini-Boxes.
    3-show mini-Boxes, released once every other month, and not during a month where a DaP is released. Thus, the DaP’s and mini-Boxes would give us a release 10 months out of the year. The other 2 months would be RSD and Black Friday RSD.
    Sounds like a grate plan to me.

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    Agree..

    Can anyone tell me why we did not get a Winterland '74 Box Set? The box design would, of course, been a mini Wall of Sound.

    Wars have been fought for less.

    Oh, the horror.

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    Would you like yours in a mini or mega? 1972, 1977, 1978 still ripe for the picking. Added together that equals mega I'd say. Taken alone some fine mini ones there. I think there's a New Year's 1971 available yet to add...

    P.S. Currently spinning the space jam from 10-18-1978

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    Stuck in the mud…

    Made through 5/4 and sorta first run of 5/7 (on crappy device while working) But got bogged down this week with mucho fuckery and distractions so lost my pace and mojo, hoping I can catch up this WE…
    ONWARD!

    NO MORE MINI BOXES!
    Every piddly little release is one less possible future box! Like most things there’s only so many, nothing lasts as the pranksters say…
    We’re running outta time so we need huge boxes with the best remaining 20 shows from each year.
    Perhaps more from years they’ve been stingy or ignored.
    This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no foolin around…
    Seriously, sales are flat, saturation for some has set in, old heads don’t want any newer stuff and/or are dying off etc, yeah, this could all go away sooner than later. We need to demand more output for the faithful, and stop worrying about the picky folks who only buy limited things. I totally understand not buying things you won’t use, but if we don’t support these releases, eventually, they’ll just stop!!
    They need to quit dicking around, otherwise,…..Smithers, release the hounds, it’s time to quit screwing around and storm the vault! Where the hell is Keithfan anyway? Thought he was getting close? Hear sound of foot tapping…AND,
    Hey Mickey, what happened to “everything’s going to get digitized and you’ll be able to order almost any show” (paraphrasing).

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 08:19

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37 years ago at the Marin Veterans Auditorium, they played the last St.Stephen. I had a lot more fun the night before, 10/30/83, when we all dosed, fun city. My favorite Halloween show is 10/31/69 from San Jose State. I saw the Garcia Band on 10/31/86, the Oakland Auditorium kinda swallowed them up, when you were used to seeing them at Keystone Palo Alto.

Just scored 5-9-77 vinyl at a local shop, $125 + tax.
There were 2 copies, another guy was there at the same time and grabbed the other.

Sounds awesome, but the curse of vinyl means that you have to flip the record after Slipknot!

DaP 36 is ‘in transit by post office’, so fingers are crossed that it comes today.
AB50 is also supposed to arrive today.

Good thing clocks turn back tonight, I’ll need that extra hour for listening if in fact all the CD’s show up.
Not sure if I’ll get in the Halloween anniversary listens, I’ve heard them all many times and the new arrivals may have to come first. We’ll see how things play out tonight.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 13:13

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Fifty years ago this time I had arrived at Stony Brook by hitchhiking from the panhandle, of Connect over the Throggs Neck Bridge and out the Island to S.U.N.Y. First time seeing the Dead away from the Fillmore. 1970 rural Long Island would have been a different world from now.
Charlie from Brooklyn was numero uno Dead Freak in those days. I met him before the Halloween shows at the student union. He was playing a cassette he made the night before on a high end recorder, boom box. To my memory that was the first Dead tape I ever heard aside from records. Vintage Dead and then Historic Dead were considered like bootlegs.
I recently listened to the complete night from 10/31/70 during the last full moon October 1, same time as breaking a four month Ganga fast. It was blissfull. Otherworldly. NRPS was great with Garcia on pedal steel. Relisten ing now. I easily bought tickets for the two shows. Although everyone was let in free for late show around midnight. I vaguely recall being on Gymnasium floor for early show. Late show was on the top bleacher on the end closest to the stage not 80’ away. One light projection man had a wizard get up with a pointed hat. Pigpen wore a psychedelic fireman’s hat, (for a few songs)each section was painted a different day-glow color.
After the late show ended (3am or later?) I left the Building out the exits behind the stage. Met Pigpen in passing as he was getting in his limo as I was funneled down the police barricade right behind him. I told him thanks, he asked me “did jya have a good time?” , to which I replied. “Definitely!”, . Pig;”that’s good”. My one time meeting the man.
Afterward vaguely remember catching a ride in a Dodge Challenger that drove close to a 100 mph. Over the dawn Troggs Neck Bridge with no traffic. Dropped off in New Rochelle , got on a train for the last stretch. Home by 8am.
The Viola Lee Blues into Cumberland Blues is so excellent.! Happy Halloween

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 16:31

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Happy Halloween all. Pretty cool Dennis, sounds like a blast. I never made it to a Halloween show.

Yes, GOGD, I watched the Preshow with DL.
I think Jim had some comments on this as well last night....
What a drag, they recorded over some of the master reels for Brent's solo stuff. What a bummer.
They used two 16 track to record the whole run.
Per DL there is definitely material available, fair amount, half or more, but not complete shows. DL stated a multi track box release is not necessarily feasible.
So this stinks.

He did mention they still have the mixdown tapes and the sound is okay.

Could they make a box set from mixdown tapes?

Seemed to me that the Warfield Radio City box is a long shot at best. They looked into it in the early 2000s and we are sitting here in late 2020.

Thank god they didn't record over other tapes. We have had some unbelievable releases.

Stay well out there.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 17:11

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Strider, very cool story meeting Pig Pen. You saw the Grateful Dead at their peak, 1970, their greatest year as far as I'm concerned.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 10/31/2020 - 20:34

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Great times.. wish I was there. Thanks for sharing. The closest I got to a New Years show was 11/1 once. Oh well.

I did finally get through a quite uninterrupted listen of Dekalb. A high energy show with flawless transitions. Still far from my favorite from '77, but it is a great show. Perhaps I am just splitting hairs.

I will say this, this is one of those shows you really need to play loud, from Might As Well to the end.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/01/2020 - 06:43

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Listened to 10/31/70 NRPS early show yesterday. Early show Dead last night with full moon. Viola into Cumberland rocks. Second set this morning at 420 am with coffee, full moon. Today is Todos Santos , All Saints Day or Day of the Dead. Fifty years ago at Pritchard Gym at S.U.N.Y. I remember it took a long time before they opened the doors for the late show. There was a very large crowd at the gym entrance. Nevertheless way less intense than in the city for a Dead show. Sometime after 11pm they finally let everyone in for free, they did not collect tickets. As NRPS was around midnight the late show Dead set was technically November 1, Day of the Dead.

Wow, meeting Pigpen.
That's a keeper for sure.

Strider do you recall your impression of the difference between the Gymnasium vibe and the Fillmore East or what you were thinking about the scene in comparison?
EDIT: Mind Meld Bro!! I see you were just discussing this in your post below 1 minute before I posted this question.
Diff vibe from the city. I'm thinking FE vibe had to be intense!

Also I wonder if that tape Charlie-O was playing came from the SBD that the Sound Crew made?

Thanks for sharing man, Great Story!

In regards to 10/31/70 tape, the Taper's Compendium mentions the following:
Bobby going into "a tirade against some nameless soundman. After Pigpen threatens to rip off the head of the aforementioned sound engineer and defecate in it, the problems seem to get resolved, thereby saving the show from a decline into fecal ultraviolence." - Haha, I love that line.... (Shout Out - Nice work Paul Bodenham & Taper's Compendium Crew!)

However, I don't hear that anywhere on the "tapes" I've got or the sources on Archive.org.
Supposedly it happened after Cosmic Charlie. Anybody got that / hear that on "tape"?

It might be the case where the source mentioned in Taper's Compendium isn't in digital circulation, but now I'm curious what's going on there. If anybody has info on that, let me know as I was looking forward to hearing that all day and darn it, I'm not hearing that anywhere.

Started listening to 2/18/71, it's sounding good friends. Strider was that your next show?
EDIT: Scratch that question you were at all 4 nights at the Cap in November '70. You Lucky Dog You!!!

Alright, well this is probably long enough as I spent some time already today on... 30 Days of the Dead!
Guessed it, if you can call searching through other versions and comparing a guess.
Do people actually just remember the version upon hearing it, or how does that work for you all?
I remember the first year just thinking how in the world do these heads know this shit?!?!?
Now.. I might be there. Is that a good thing? Not sure.

Anyhow, if you read this far, thanks for visiting and I hope you have a wonderful day!
Go play Dead.
I'm gonna finish up 2/18/71 today and might have to do it all over again.
Good stuff!

PS - if this wasn't so long already I would've talked a bit about 1977-10-29 - Sounded ripping / Might As Well is a power house version and the energy seems to stay there, but I was distracted and didn't finish. And 1980 Warfield / Radio City Reels, 2 Track & Multi-Track but it'd all be speculation.

That’s everyday for folks here.

Just started spinning 2-18-71 and it sounds spectacular!

USPS is in possession of my DaP 36, but apparently they have to accept the package. So current status is “received, the acceptance of your package is pending”.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/01/2020 - 11:36

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Mcgaw Memorial Hall.... 11/1/73 Evanston!! Morning Dew>Playing>UJB>Playin!!! Last show of the tour that started in Oklahoma City... Next up Winterland 73 a week later!!! Don't think the first set of 11/1/73 circulates but i could be wrong... The snow has melted here in Rhode Island... Made it through the first Hartford 87 show last night... I cheated and listened to the Wall Song from the upcoming 5/21/71 Jerry show,, really good I have to say... Bob t

Bob T, 11/1/73 that's a good call, Now I wanna give that a listen.
No Set 1 that I'm seeing, anybody got it?

Got caught up in 2/18/71. Wow great sound quality. Really cool to hear Ned's contributions so well. Can't remember if they showed up in the ole bootleg, but they're nicely placed in the mix here. Good stuff.

Whose playing 30 Days Guesses?

Today is fun.

BTW I really dig the 5/12/79 Set 2 material in Taper's Section today.
SBD doesn't circulate so check it out.
Has some reel flips in Terrapin & NFA and a few drop outs in PITB. But if you haven't heard it, it's worth a visit.
I like '79 cool year.

Alright, lmk if there's a pick today.
Lots a Dead a happening.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 12:47

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Send us a pick GOGD.

I am thinking 11/4/77 for Wednesday. Colgate, Dave's #12.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 15:13

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How about 3/26 & 3/27/87?

I just got mine today. Anybody else on here get there's?

Or 2/18/71 needs a nice day of listening...

Couldn't resist, the Dead has landed.

Otherwise give 11/1/73 a listen, it's late in the day and it's only a partial Set 2.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 15:17

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I'm no help.. hopelessly behind again. I'm in for Colgate though. It's been years since I listened to it. ..and fresh off my (our) other recent Fall 77 listen, quite timely. If we did something, something short as the hour is getting late.

Greek 68, 30 Trips, Holfheinz Pavilion 72? Something like that??

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 16:09

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I don't have my Dave's 36, maybe by the end of the week. Don't know why some of us get these so much later than others. Don't blame you for cracking it out.

Shoot, you have people getting them in Europe faster than here in MN.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/02/2020 - 16:46

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I was lucky and got Dave's Saturday, and the 2/18/71 show arrived today... (That one just sat in pre-whatever and just showed up US mail).. I am listening to the Omni 6/20/74 show, just started. I listened to 6/8/74 yesterday.. Trying to listen to my neglected 74 shows.... Roanoke is up for tomorrow. have a good night everyone. bob t

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 06:41

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..but I live in the middle of nowhere. Mail still comes via pony express and coal train.

Maybe today?

Roanoke sounds like a good pick for today. I always thought it was one of the lesser shows from '74, but I'll take 'lesser' show from '74 any day of the week. Nice eyes encore. I should get some time later today. Things are beginning to ease up a bit.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 07:39

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On Playing already for end of first set... I know why i gloss over this show, and it is because of set II. There is a 10 minute US Blues that goes into Promised Land.. That is it for the jam. Eyes encore... Well played, good Charlie Miller board. Like i said in previous post, I neglect 6/8 Oakland, 6/20 Atlanta (No tapes available back in the day), Roanoke, and the 9/14 Muenchen show... Bob t

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 09:38

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I'm in. Im not familiar with this show, but it is close to the Selland Arena show. How bad could it be ; )

I hope everyone voted today!!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 10:31

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That PITB is a hot one. Perhaps the highlight of the show. Staring the second set now.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 11:46

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Agreed Jim. I like in the Playin how they break it down about 13 mins in with Jerry doing some nice runs up and down the neck with the wah wah and Billy filling the space with toms.

Im at MAMU in the 2nd set. What really strikes me about this show is how much Keith is on the Rhodes, and how out front in the mix he is. I dont remember him playing a Rhodes for a whole show like this. I'll have to revisit Selland and see if this show may be an outlier.

I really liked the smooth transition from Mississippi to Must Have Been the Roses.

I probably haven't given this show its due because there're no big 2nd set jam, but like Jim said, that 1st set playin is killer and probable makes up for it. I'm looking forward to this Brokedown in the late 2nd set ballad placement, which is a rarity.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 12:49

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All in all a nice show. First set is better than 2nd set, which is odd for this vintage. Mississippi to PITB was the highlight. Not sure what they were trying to do in that US Blues. Seems like Billy didnt get the message or something. They never really righted the ship after that.

Keith was the star of this show though, taking over on the Rhodes. Release worthy? I dont know. Sounds quality is there but the second set fizzles. Maybe one of the last '74s to see the light of day. Still, lots of fantastic music and very glad i spent 3 hours of my work day jamming to this.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 13:19

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Shorter show for 1974. Good show, sound quality is really good for the most part. I really liked Biily's drumming in the summer of 1974. For some reason no Eyes of the World Encore from the version I listened to from Relisten.

Good pick Bob t.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 13:59

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My version doesn't have it either.. Show's how good my memory is. Decent little show. I agree with the comments that a big jam sequence in the second set would have improved this one. Still, some very nice moments.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Tue, 11/03/2020 - 18:49

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so last week i zigged while most everybody zagged. went on a '74 search - that's where my main vibe was. first listened to Springfield 6/30 - fantastic show! then Roanoke, with that excellent and very cool Playing, and solid playing overall, and a mysteriously missing major jam sequence but still fun. so its a cool coinkydink to see everybody dialing in on Roanoke last day or so. first night of Jai Alai after that. then Roosevelt Stadium show from 8/6. today was listening to another new '74 for me, the Olympia Hall in Munich 9/14 - there is a really really sweet Usborne matrix of that show - highly recommended! and finished with the last show of that European tour which at times is as deliberate as anything i've heard from that era. morning dew seemed remarkably slow.
i too voted for sanity. be well everybody.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 05:40

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Looking forward to putting this show on today. Short show. Bonus for 11/2/77.

Stay well out there folks.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 06:40

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I found this note on the Archive from Sirmick on his AUD transfer (132282): "A reviewer at archive.org says "This was a weird event-the band was somewhat scared of the crowd which was yelling at them the whole time." and "There was no encore at this concert-the eyes thing is an error perpetuated through the years starting with deadbase. The Dead left after Johnny B Goode and I think they were glad to get out."
https://archive.org/details/gd1974-07-27.akgd200e.unk.sirmick.132282.sb…

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 13:00

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No cavity creeps here!!! Love the Aiko coming out of drums, this one and the RPI Fieldhouse show are my two favs from this era!!! I had an audience tape of this show back in the day that was amazing quality!!! Aiko just coming on... the whole second set is pure bliss!!! Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 11/04/2020 - 18:48

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Disc 3 of Colgate show...... Scarlet>Fire forgot how good it was, I like the Broome County one a few days later but totally forgot about this one... Good night all. Bob t

Yes, Bob t, Disc 3 of Dave's 12 for me might be the best part of this release.

Another chunk of this show appears on Dick's 34. Should we check out 11/5/77, Dick's #34 for tomorrow?

11/2 is a bit under the radar..

This whole release smokes, high energy and excellent recording. I made it through discs 1 and 2, #3 awaits. Good pick Bob. I need a refresher course on this one, it's been a long time.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 11/05/2020 - 05:40

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Is there good video of that show? I heard a young lady came up and gave Jerry a big hug and kiss at the encore.

-edit- A kind soul somehow posted a review of this show IN THE FUTURE YESTERDAY over on Internet Archive. Of course, I was wondering how the heck that happened, maybe minor digital glitch? Anyway here it is to shed light on my recollection and for you to enjoy! :-)

Have a Grateful Day today everybody :-)

Reviewer: MtnHigh73 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 6, 2020
Subject: Bill Walton's Birthday Show... Sweater Incident
I was at the show. It was one of my first Dead shows and a memorable one, and I want to set the record straight...

Love the crystal clear soundboard recording...
Lots of mention of Boston Celtics players sighted at this show, and to set the record straight. This was "Bill Walton's Birthday" show, and at the beginning of the 2nd set, the band came out. Bobby announced, "It's our buddy Bill Walton's birthday (with full echo effect), and we'd like to sing happy birthday to him, and you can all join in...". You can hear the end of happy birthday on this awesome soundboard version... the audience version of this show has the full announcement before Shakedown.

Anyways this show ripped, and my twin brother and I (not a head) dosed and were in the 1st 10 rows for the entire 2nd set. Memory is a whirlwind of sights and sounds, but I remember dancing my ass off to the Good Lovin'.

THE BEGINING OF THE ENCORE (capitalized because I went on to see more than a hundred shows after this and never saw the next thing happen ever again)... a woman jumped on to the stage with a thick wool-like sweater that buttoned down in the front. She DRAPED THE SWEATER OVER JERRY'S SHOULDERS... just as he started to sing the opening lines to Brokedown Palace... then she was ushered off the stage. The sweater remained on his shoulders the majority of the song, and by the end, it was hanging by one arm off of Jerry. I distinctly remember seeing the woman join her friends back a few rows in front of us during the encore. I'm getting goosebumps writing and recalling this... after the show, my brother and I, two sweaty 16-year-olds leaving the Centrum, and my twin brother turned to me and said: " We got closer to Jerry Garcia then some people do in their entire lifetime!".

The next morning, burnt out catching a ride with my Dad to school, the local Boston radio station announced, " the Celtics were off last night and Bird, Mchale and Ainge accompanied Bill Walton to a Grateful Dead show in Worcester"... goosebumps.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/05/2020 - 19:37

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I never burned this Dick's Picks. So When I put it into my computer, love that a picture of the Lincoln, NE/ Salt Lake City 73 Dick's Picks CD picture shows up.....Just got to the Phil Jam>Eyes of CD #2.... Anyone in the mood for June 29, 1976 Chicago tomorrow... Big fan of the 5th and final Mission in the Rain!!! Good night all... Bob t

This is a gem in my book Bob t. Of course the chop job, but it is still really good.

I am up for 6/29/76, hope there is a good board out there. Mission in the Rain!

Big fan too.. I think the best of the few played.

I'm in. I did the first set of the first show in the June 76 box yesterday on my bike ride. I was in the mood for some crystal clear dead and it was in the device I picked up.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/06/2020 - 06:55

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Deadvikes there is a really good board as well as a FM copy from WXRT.. That whole June tour had the last show of whatever stop broadcast.. Jim i also agree with the crystal clear sound of the 76 box!! Surprised that Mission in the Rain didn't make it two weeks later into the Orpheum run in San Francisco. Bob t

I am working my way through it late. The Betty is sounding good. Another show that was part of the ABCD LLC transaction. Maybe some day.

My Dave's 36 is now scheduled for tomorrow. We will see. Love this system.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 09:45

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Maybe a little Crotchfester from 11/7&8/85 sometime this weekend, perhaps extra credit as GOGD would say....
By the way, where is that rascal?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 10:00

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I'm doing 11/7/71 today.

I have not listened to the War Memorial shows yet.. I would be interested to check them out.

I'm in.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 10:27

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Have garage work to do: sanding etc so need some good working music! Plus, I’ve been doing the “five year anniversary” plan for years since it’s hard and very limiting to try and do every anniversary. So for instance this year being a “0” that means I shoot for 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, and 95. Since that still leaves a lot, next criteria is shows from those years I was at, thus, going 85...but,
Have been starting a 71 bender though as I went totally grateful yesterday after grueling gig with no tunes this week.
Vegged out to 2/18/71 and was digging it so much followed up with 2/19/71...perfect as I was so whooped I don’t think I could have fully grasped a big spacey show, and Rockin later years would have been too much energy in my delicate state lol.
Realized, that there isn’t much difference between sets then, meaning 2/18 at least is like 2 bookend sets. They both are mostly just songs, with one tasty smaller jam at the end. I need to find more early 71 jams, like biggins’ if there are any? Where’s GOGD or DOC when ya need em? ; )
Definitely going to Poke around there as time allows. Really hoping to finally get to 10/19/73 tomorrow if time allows a full immersion. Haven’t givin that one a spin in a while and it always calls to me in the fall.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 11/07/2020 - 13:27

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Been preoccupied. Will consider what to write about being there fifty years ago. Attended all four nights.
David Lemeiux was born November 8, 1970. Must have been something in the ethers that day. Pre-destined.
My late brother Rick was at the Harding Theater one of those nights 49 years ago.

I've listened to this show once.. I am going to try and give it a second listen.

I love the last half of this comment from setlists.net

"Finally, the space interlude in the Dark Star is some of the scariest Dead I have ever laid ears on. Its like the Book of Revelation--it'll scare the crap out of you. Listen to it at one in the morning with no lights on, at a loud volume, alone, and check back with me. WOW!"