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June 11, 2009 - 9:46am

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marye

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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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July 9, 2011 - 5:42pm

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JackstrawfromC…

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I have to agree with Jake

But it is a hard message to get out to everyone so we'll always have these issues. Anyways ... hope everyone is having a grateful summer... =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
July 9, 2011 - 9:35am

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Jake R

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EDAD

I am still taking a break. I just have very lil free time now and tryin to smooth some things out before i go. Have a good summer everyone
July 9, 2011 - 8:44am

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Exploratory Da…

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Hey Jake. Are you still

Hey Jake. Are you still going to leave for awhile? This summer I am swamped. I have been on other projects. I have been looking for bigfoot, doing a bunch of firearms youtube videos, and just all-around staying busy. But I am still here on the sideline.
July 9, 2011 - 7:42am

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Jake R

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Also

I know maustin has been on and off here as of late. He used to be a good viner and I remember months back weird things happened here in the vineyard. Birdsong had some issues come up and some vines were lost on him (if I remember correctly) which is very out of character for him. LIG71 showed up, signed up and disappeared again. Smileydave was put in the hospital and his nephew came onto post to let us know of it (I hope Dave is doing alright. Anyone heard from him?). Longrifle has a couple vines stuck on him and I know Canada had some postal issues but still let us know if you have any or passed them on. maustin started a couple of vines and then something happened with him too and now, as ADAWGWYO posted he posts once in while but no response to any pm's. I've sent him a couple and I've offered to send him his own copies of vines he has signed on so he won't hold them up and he has taken the offer for the 1972 vines I reseeded/started (with a little help from my friends) months ago now. He has responded semi-recentrly saying he is doing better but he doesn't say anything about the vines he has/will be receiving so idk whats up. All I can say is we had a similar issue before with vines being sent and no update as to of where there were sent to or whether they were received. So please for any vine pm the next in line (unless you know for sure they are active which I think we are down to around 10 ppl now) and the older vines that get reseeded pm anyone after you, whether or not they are active cause if enough time passes, some of us aquire copies through other means. Sorry for the long winded rant but I and other long time vineyard users have seen the same thing. This wasn't meant to blast anybody just provide a heads up of some ppl who may need to be dropped down on the list until they are ready to receive the vine.
July 9, 2011 - 7:27am

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Jake R

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Hey guys

Canada has been receiving postage (as Poncho said) and I just sent mine off to him today.Furthur Fest 2010, Warfield 1980, and Garcia and Saunders are enroute to the Great White North today.
July 6, 2011 - 10:38am

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ADAWGWYO

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Also...

Unless someone didn't post, noonie has parts 2 and 3 of the 1969 vine as well. I hope these get sent out before the self imposed hiatus as I have sent at least a few PM's checking on status of the 2 vines I follow him.
July 6, 2011 - 10:32am

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ADAWGWYO

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Stay in touch Aaron

Are you gonna send out the vines you're sitting on like nov 72 and 3 from 75 before you hiatus? Good luck with taping. Bless the tapers!!
July 6, 2011 - 10:14am

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noonie

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takeing a break...

Hey everyone i will be taking a break for awhile just getting busy around here and i am using any free time towards learning to tape shows... so maybe i can seed some next year...so long for now and THANKS to all who have expanded my collection of shows....hugs to all
July 5, 2011 - 2:25pm

#169

ADAWGWYO

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Hey Everyone!!

Just a heads up. I was camping over the long weekend and got back earlier today, just to rush off to work. I had a couple pkgs in my mail I surmise to be vines. I will rip them tonight and do proper turnarounds tomorrow. I have the tivoli video ready to go to Zep and also a pkg ready for Decola. Thanks for your patience guys. Also, I extracted the Tivoli files, burned a DVD and included it in with the original files, so someone can now just copy DVD if they choose. Anyways, I'll make proper posts when things are in motion tomorrow. Thanks all!! Big ups to to the seeders of all these new vines!! Excited and appreciated
July 3, 2011 - 3:57pm

#170

sportzfreak260

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November 3, 2010

Thanks Jake.

Thanks for taking the time to help me get started on here. Take care and I plan on being here for awhile, so cya when you get back!

Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

Vinedex Link

This is the most current vinedex I can find. You have to scroll down the thread to find the listing. http://www.dead.net/forum/vindex Looks like a previous update. Best Wishes-Jimmy

some strange occurences still happening...

as posted, the vindex is missing CB's latest update. The search box is turning up no results for a lot of things. I use that to track down vines (easier than thumbing through all the listings and pages). Also my 1969 Lossless Part 5 thread is unable to be found. I posted a lil over a week ago if there was no movement on that then I would reseed it. I guess I'll let things settle for little while longer and hope it all works out. Btw I copied CB's vindex and have it saved as a txt file if anyone needs that since he may be busy to repost it.

noticed

the search errors too was searching for those E72 tour pages that were posted in April and May the ones with track-listing as well as links to one of the songs... gone?

who stole the vindex?

I will update it and repost in the next week if it does not reappear

thanks CB

I suppose an update is needed already due to the massive amount of new vines that have been started since summer (including a nearly complete 1982 year and a nice healthy dose of 1976)

the vindex was over at the

the vindex was over at the tapers thread

bicentennial grateful dead vine

The bicentennial grateful dead vine won't allow me to post. I received it yday. I've been working like crazy lately (11pm last night) but will be able to start ripping it tomorrow. Will update, hopefully on the thread, when it is ready to go.

Keeper of The Vines!!!!

Alright now, starting to feel like the dead letter office in my house. I am holding a lot of vines right now that no one else has signed up for. If you are interested in any of these, paste the link to get to the vine, sign yourself up and PM me your address. Let’s keep this stuff moving along, OK? Peace, JP 1969 Lossless Part 2 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/1969-lossless-part-2-vine 1969 Lossless Part 2 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/1969-lossless-part-4-vine August 1971 Vine Part 1 (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/august-1971-vine-part-1 Old and In the Way Vine (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/old-and-way-vine Three from 1975 Vine (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/three-1975-vine 1977 Lossless Vine Part 1 (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/1977-lossless-vine-part-1 1977 Lossless Vine Part 2 http://www.dead.net/forum/1977-lossless-vine-part-2-5-3-5-26 Pomo1's 78 Flash-back Vine (1978) http://www.dead.net/forum/pomo1s-78-flash-back-vine Merriweather 1983 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/merriweather-1983-vine Greek 84 Vine (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/greek-84-vine 20 Years So Far: Summer '85 Part 1-The Greeks http://www.dead.net/forum/20-years-so-far-summer-85-part-1-greeks 20 Years So Far: Summer '85 Part 2-Wisconsin and Ohio http://www.dead.net/forum/20-years-so-far-summer-85-part-2-wisconsin-an… Colorado 87 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/colorado-august-1987-vine Dylan-Dead Rehearsals Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/dylan-dead-rehearsals-vine The Dead 2/14/2003 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/dead-2-14-2003-vine The Dead 7/10/03 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/dead-7-1-03-vine Fleetwood Mac vine http://www.dead.net/forum/fleetwood-mac-vine FWGV Vine Installment #1 (Jefferson Airplane and Fleetwood Mac) http://www.dead.net/forum/fwgv-vine-installment-1 FWGV Vine Installment #3 (Cream, Byrds, Yardbirds) http://www.dead.net/forum/fwgv-vine-installment-3 FWGV Vine Installment #5 (Doors and Pearl Jam) http://www.dead.net/forum/fwgv-vine-installment-5 Neil Young Prairie Wind Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/neil-young-prairie-wind-vine Pink Floyd Part 3 Vine (1971, 1977, 1980) http://www.dead.net/forum/pink-floyd-part-3-vine The Big Led Balloon 12-10-07 Vine (Led Zep) (reseed) 1 DVD [Includes LZ show plus bonus Hendrix, Airplane, Doors] http://www.dead.net/forum/big-led-balloon-12-10-07-vine-led-zep

Hi, All

Have been gone for about a month moving to a new apartment. Hope all is well and everyone had a great summer. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

Vanishing vines

These two at least have vanished. I cannot enter the second one in the Vindex as it is recent. Have notfied Marye. 1969 Lossless Part 5 Bi-Centennial Grateful Dead Vine

New Vindex

Now the Vindex is getting so huge and seems to have been eliminated from this site, I am planning a new way of sharing it, which is intended to be easier for me, easier for folks to scan and analyse and that will not clog up the site. I am posting a link to a place where you can read a simple spreadsheet online with the VIndex on it. It includes a whole lot more useful info too, including a list of all the shows the GD ever played and dates of all official releases. The link is here. Please tell me if it works OK https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApYQXLRMperodHNXcXhNYjdpWH… thanks CB

Thanks CB!!

Thanks very much Mr. Badger!! Any chance you can export this data to Microsoft Excel? My attempts have been unsuccessful so far. Best Wishes and Thank You Very Much!!! Jimmy

it hasn't been eliminated

we are having some site weirdness, which I've reported to Darren. Strangely enough, the Vindex is perfectly visible in the editor, but everything I've tried to make it visible in real life has failed. Including posting it as a new comment. We're working on this, but in the meantime, it is a good thing that another solution exists. Sorry for the trouble.

site weirdness

yep, my photos that I uploaded are gone..or hidden :-)

yeah

I reported that too.

Excel Vindex

is here...follow the free download instructions http://depositfiles.com/files/0sjzlrr2z

Bicentennial Grateful Dead vine

Hey, this vine is not lost. I have it. I received it on Tue. The link for the thread does not work. MaryE, if you have a chance, please check on that. If the person who is next in line knows they are next in line, please PM me with your info and it will be sent out to you on Tue. Thanks!

Received...

...a PM response from Pomo1 that 1969 part 5 will be on the move shortly.

Thanks for the new vinedex

I was able to get a copy of the new vinedex in Excel format. Thanks to the Cosmic Badger for his great efforts. Also thanks to zepthompson for the conversion!! Have a Euro72 weekend!! Best Wishes-Jimmy

Vanishing vines explanation

I did not mean to suggest that these two vines are physically lost 1969 Lossless Part 5 Bi-Centennial Grateful Dead Vine it's just that the pages that feature them here have disappeared (at least that was the case yesterday) . All part of the weirdness being investigated by MaryE.

badger

Gotcha, thanks!

Derek

You probably should have received the 1969 Part 5 vine by now. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

1969 p5

I have not received it as of this morning.

news article

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-grateful-dead-201… The most interesting think is the comment that about 2000 of the approximately 2300 shows played are in the vault.

Just realized ...

Maybe I'm slow ... I don't know, but maybe there are others who don't know this: If you PM'd someone and you're not sure if they've read your message yet, go to your "sent" folder. If they haven't opened your message yet, the word "new" will appear in red in the subject line (just like when you go to your inbox and you have new messages). Kida like getting a read receipt. OK, maybe this doesn't seem like a big deal, BUT it does tell you if someone is no longer active in the Vineyard, which could stop vines from dying. For example: there is someone who hasn't opened ANY of my messages since February. If he follows me on the list, I know not to send him the vine. Make sense? New to the 21st century, Chris

helpful

I didn't know this, frisco, thanks

europe 72

I'm posting my thoughts regarding each show in the respective threads (go to "Shows & Lyrics" on the left, just under "Features") if anyone is interested. I've listened to the first 3 nights, grading 4/7 & 4/8 as 8.5 out of 10 overall, and 4/11 as 9 out of 10. I'm not a musician so my musical vocabulary is pretty limited, though as you all know I've listened to my fair share of Dead shows.

due to the fact that the box set is well and truly shipping

and actually arriving on people's doorsteps, I have retired the vines containing material from the Europe 72 tour. In some cases this is a matter of a single show and the vine could be re-seeded without the show in question. EXCEPT. I have not retired the videos for the time being. Had there been video in the box set, this would have been another story, but for the moment, there doesn't seem to be a compelling issue. Feel free to play it with the relevant CD from the box set cranked up...

Thanks Mary

and thank you CB for new vindex. Sorry I haven't been around in awhile guys. I keep saying the vines I have are gonna move shortly and there should be no reason in delaying any longer the vines that I have.

Please help out an old-timer here on dead.net

Many of you know Johnman, His family is losing his house. Any donations would be appreciated directly to him. You can PM him or PM me for the address.. I know this is off-topic but there are some good souls here on this thread who are kind.

traders little helper

Hey folks , i am having trouble finding traders little helper , i know its strange.. can someone post a link to the latest version for windows 7 ? Thank you .. And that really bites abt Johnman,, wish i could help but i am still digging myself out of a huge hole.. My thoughts and best wishes are with him.. Look twice save a life, motorcycles are everywhere . Thank you !!

TLH Links

I found these links for TLH Windows 7. Since I use Windows XP (yes, I am a dinosaur!), I haven't tried to download this version. TLH for Windows 7: http://www.windows7program.com/traders-little-helper-download.html http://tlh.easytree.org/ Good Luck and Best Wishes-Jimmy

Thank you Jimmy

i will give it a try.. Look twice save a life, motorcycles are everywhere . Thank you !!

recently, the vineyard, and

recently, the vineyard, and some vines in particular, have been hit these unwanted phantom solicitations

Europe 72

In my opinion the vine should keep going. Some of us couldn't get the box set because dead.net can't figure out how to transcribe credit card and address info. Or how to save it to their database. I didn't sign up for that vine because I stupidly assumed I would be getting the box. "I won't take your life won't even take a limb just unload my shotgun and take a little skin"

sorry

the deal with tape trading (and its digital counterpart) being allowed on this site is that once something is in commercial release, it stops being traded here. The All The Music set is in commercial release and not in limited edition, therefore the Europe 72 set is off limits. I am sorry for your order hassles. I am doing what I can to help you with them. But it was not exactly a slam dunk to have tape trading allowed on this site at all, and this is a very bright line governing its being allowed. Thank you.

sorry vineheads...

I have been holding up a few vines due to some crazy overtime @ work that was unexpected. They WILL be moving on by Monday. Liberty #1 and #2 Closing of the Spectrum sorry again.

I know

I was just venting. That's all I can do because I am completely powerless in this situation. It's frustrating. "I won't take your life won't even take a limb just unload my shotgun and take a little skin"

yeah

and believe me I am bumming on your behalf.

been busy, tired, and a

been busy, tired, and a little lazy...I am holding up 2 vines, and they will be out this week: '76 and Kingfish

you and me jackstraw

and I guess a few others too. Can we start a mutual support group?

and now...

the new decade, new vines topic is missing. It has posts from some vine. However, I do like the new formatting of the site.

this new format is killin' me

this new format is killin' me eyes....when are "they" going to stop messin' around with the site? ;-)

I do like the edit function!

information only

http://www.dead.net/forum/new-decade-new-vines-topic new-1990s-part-4-vine and shoreline-90-vine have some evil cross-ties go to http://www.dead.net/forum/shoreline-90-vine or http://www.dead.net/forum/new-1990s-part-4-vine same page loads I'm sure it is only temporary, but if this helps I wanted to post it

thanks for your help marye

they may be on to something..

Sort function

Is this going to come back? For example when you could search and sort only vines for example?

1 week and 4 days ago

What happened? There must have been 10 pages of posts on that day. All the vine threads are buried beneath that stuff. It makes searching difficult to impossible... :(

are you not able to sort topics

that are only in the Vineyard? (for example) that seems pretty straightforward to me. What am I missing? There are a number of new capabilities, and I'm trying to figure out if some of the old ones exist at all or in somewhat different forms, but topic selection seems to be okay. Topic EXCLUSION seems to be slightly more problematical and I'm still looking into that one... Also the mysterious disappearance of New Decade, New Vines, but hey, failing all else we can always start a new one for that; I don't think we had any new vines pending because of all the upheaval anyway. And if we did, You Know Who You Are.

I don't know

But I don't see where you can sort the forums into the vineyard only. The 'sort window thing' used to be on the top of the page and I don't see it anymore. I could be as sharp as a marble or just blind.