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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • daverock
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    John Lennons comment...

    ..about the fact that there was nothing before Elvis was made from the perspective of a white middle class English teenager in the 1950s. As such, it is unlikely that he would have heard black rhythm and blues. When we are teenagers, we have little sense of the history of music, from whence it came. So I could say that before T.Rex there was nothing. Picture me at 14 in 1971 watching Top of the Pops on T.V.-and T.Rex coming on. I didn't know anything about where this came from-but for me it started there. They are a long way from my favourite band now-but back then..

    Going back to the historical perspective, I still haven't heard heard any records from 1954 or earlier that sound remotely like the ones Elvis cut that year. Their are elements of his sound in some Hank Williams records, maybe, and Carl Perkins claims to have welded country and blues before hearing Elvis-but on records that I have heard, music seemed to exist in specific genres-blues, country, gospel, folk whatever until Elvis lit the fuse.

    Its also been said that Chuck Berry did a similar thing to Elvis, mixing blues and country and coming up with rock n' roll, but that he came form a blues background. Very different, from say, Howlin' Wolf, who arguably rocked harder than either, but did so without assimilating cultures outside the blues.

    The Dead carried on this tradition of combining elements from different cultures-they didn't start it.

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    Elvis?

    Elvis being given the credit for "beginning" rock n roll is the essence of white washing. He was so controversial because he brought black music to young white kids on national level. Making something popular with the white crowd does not make it a "beginning." Only a beginning for white culture, which often prominently claims their learning of something, even if it isn't "new" is the start of its greatness. Think the "New World" as your prime example...it wasn't "new" nor undiscovered, nor crappy before they arrived. :) Credit where credit is due. If Elvis didn't pick up on rock n roll it might not have found a white audience as easily or quickly but rock n roll would still exist without him.

    To me the Dead are the ultimate band because they fuse together both styles of Americana music, black heritage and white heritage to make something truly unique. Hell they even weave in a bunch of esoteric references to natives and other cultures. GD music is the melting pot of genuine American music and Elvis was a highly marketable knock off and appropriation of authentic culture. Fine I'll say it Elvis was NOT the "King." ;)

    Not to mention no ones really mentioned how big an influence jazz was on the early dead,s idea of improv, playing, and then eventually that wonderful 73 sound, not to mention their righteous appreciation for the musicians. I dont know who'd be on my Mt. Rushmore of Rock n roll. But the very idea that I'm building a monument on top of a sacred native mountain in the Black Hills of South Dakota for a bunch of white dudes some of whom were slave holders seems odd to say the least.

    If rock n roll is truly from the people and the music of outlaws, the monument to its beginnings is made of earth and wood hidden down some backwoods haunt sitting in the late full moonlight on a Summer's evening with a smell of smoke in the air and sounds of laughter.

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    Hey Jim, I dig your post of Mt. Rushmore with Hendrix and Garcia, very cool! I heard Wavey Gravy doing an interview once, where he was talking about who would be on the Mt. Rushmore of freaks, and he said, Ken Kesey, Neal Cassidy, Allen Ginsberg, and Jerry Garcia, that's where I got the idea for the Rock & Roll Mt. Rushmore.

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    Highly Recommended - McNally

    On Highway 61: Music, Race and the Evolution of Cultural Freedom

    It's a hefty read, a great book that ties all the loose ends of this conversation together nicely.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    “The only thing older than music”

    “Is tuning up”
    Bob

  • Dennis
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    Origins of Pop

    Earlier please, Steven Foster, John Phillip Sousa, Al Jolson. ALL "Pop" music. Not sure what would have counted before that? Seems Foster needs to be the beginning, if you think of popular music as the "songs" that were on the peoples lips of the day. Whaling songs?

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    Son House & Mike Bloomfield discuss the blues

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HIrx3M5aLL0. Hey Dave Rock , check this out, I think you'll dig it.

  • Mr. Ones
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    Do some research & open your mind

    Anyone who believes rock and roll could have happened without black culture, black music, African rhythms and much, much more, simply hasn’t done enough digging. Music has been transforming and growing since the first note was played. Finding a singular voice is where the true innovators come in. We don’t need a Mt. Rushmore, or even a Hall Of Fame. We need textbooks, encyclopedias and libraries, to hold the incredible volume of written history that I feel so lucky to have read just a tiny sliver of.

    Music is the best!!

  • LedDed
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    Origins Of Popular Music, Vol. 1

    I'll go with

    Glenn Miller
    Frank Sinatra
    Elvis Presley
    The Beatles

    Last 5:

    UFO - The Salentino Cuts
    Al Di Meola - Across The Universe
    Grateful Dead - Dick's Vol. 24, 3/23/74 Cow Palace
    Grace Jones - 20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection
    The Gun Club - Lucky Jim

    \m/

  • Oroborous
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    But what about Spinal Tap?

    and hey, I may not remember where I was when the big E checked out, but I know where he was!....sorry, sometimes I just can’t help myself ; )

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...is now some of my favorite GD ever.

Thank you Dave for the new perspective.

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It's not one large pizza

It's two mediums

Two gloriously steaming pizzas

"Yummy"

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50 candles 🎂 on a Ganga carrot birthday cake for his half century tomorrow.

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Jerry "little red light on the highway
Big green light on the speedway"

Fat Albert "hey hey hey"

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At least a week complete in a good mood.
I received the new Dave's I listened only once. It' s lock down again in France, and via Germany I grabbed a copy of American Beauty and 3 days later Working man' dead 50th.
I bought American beauty in vinyle, tape for the car , Cd, an a bit later the remaster with the bonus tracks and I don't pretend the dead has commercial intentions...
As I was expecting a port Chester boxset sooner or later I eventually got it
It took time to take the decision to buy the new copy. but it is Ok the sound is pretty good and the 2 concerts are top.
When I visited Us in 2002, I came back with a copy of Reflection I listened in the rent chevy in the wild west,with the beautiful Rowan Douglas Yonder, and Dick picks 7 I bought in San Diego. When I flew back to Europe I saw a student listening with a walkman a copy of American Beauty, likely a disk of his father, exactly what you need to stay in touch with your country and his cosmic cow boys. (Happy birthday)
This is the best disk the dead ever made in studio. a perfect disk for sunday morning. Obviously 20/20 was a good number for quarantine and I expect the new year with other good shows, and forgetting the sanitary situation.

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some balls are held for charity

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Really happy for this two show release. It really is immersive and captures the energy of riding that big old wave that was an 80's show. However this isn't what I'm looking for from this series. The matrix and ultramatrix recordings can be wonderful and a ton of fun, but these recording just aren't all that great. Way too much crowd. Massive muddling midrange. Feels distant. Phil is pudding. And the drums are somewhere in there. Don't get me wrong. This release is fun and gives any uninitiated head a taste of what it was like on the floor. Just not what I was expecting or hoping for from the series.

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until the 50th-anniversary version of Built to Last comes out! Which show from 1989 will Dave include in the box? :)

And Happy Birthday, Dave!! Love ya', man!

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In my very humble opinion, I'd give this one a "B", but not even a "B+". Like many others, I'm not thrilled with the crowd noise and the overall mix. I have plenty of 80s cassettes that will deliver the same sound quality. Phil seems pretty lost in the mix, Bob's guitar comes and goes. I don't think the "Birdsong" comes close to "best ever." And, I keep waiting for a searing solo in "China Cat ... I Know You Rider" that never materializes. On the positive side, Jerry sings like he's fired up, and Brent is playing well. I'm sure this release was a labor of love for Dave, but maybe it's time to pass the baton to a new set of ears...? Change is good.

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...has blow into Edmonton AB along with beautiful blizzard. After waiting seven weeks for DaP 35 to show up, I didn't expect this to arrive so soon - mailed off early, and took about two weeks to arrive. Dug into the first show last night, found it lovely and lively. That Bird Song really took me on a journey. And of course went to bed humming Mighty Quinn. I'll concede the crowd's a bit loud at first, but it evens out after a couple tunes and everything really comes together.

The '80s are by no means my comfort zone, but Dave's done a good job at converting me with these last two releases.

I am a robot, but not willing to admit it.

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To answer your questions:
1-Hey, we're still in love and in it for the long haul. I know she thinks I listen to too much Grateful Dead, and doesn't quite get the collecting thing. And for sure she occasionally reminds me that I can still be an a-hole. I bet there are some of you on this thread who can relate.
2-Peggy O is a mutual fave, and we have enjoyed it together at many a show.
3- NOT on purpose. I was pretty high and did a slow motion fall back into her lap while she was taking a breather. I found the experience pleasant, and she just stared. I read her mind.
4- The Math: I kept bumping into her on campus, and it took me a year to get up the nerve to ask her out to dinner.
Our first show together was Charlotte, 05/03/79. Long story short, we became an item, played house, and finally realized that everything was just exactly perfect, and the rest is history.

Edit: I guess this could be, in some way, a Grateful Dead Love Story.

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That sound like a Hallmark TV movie. Get the screenplay to them. Best wishes.

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USPS tell me my copy is in the UK so the delivery now depends on whether the powers that be decide to charge me.

On ‘that’ other topic I’d say that the time is right for dancing in the street, but with the pandemic I think it would be better to stay at home and stay safe. Let’s hope 2021 improves quickly.

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PROUDFOOT: not sure which I like better, 2 mediums or Fat Albert doing West LA, LOL

VGUY: I believe it’s even a tad brighter on my back door?

SHEKYERBONES: glad yer getting the new tunes and digging them. Funny juxtaposition yesterday enjoying people literally dancing in the streets but worrying it’ll kill em...

BIGBROWNIE: Built to last mi amigo, built to last! Been happily unmarried for 23 years, not sure how she does it!
It’s so nice to see folks still in love after so long! Pretty cool how things work out sometimes....
Great story, thanks for sharing!

THATMIKE: howdy neighbor! Used to be from “southern Canada” BITD...lived 15 minutes from the border so used to go up to Can-a-dy all the time. And Yassssss, a big

HAPPY, HAPPY, JOY, JOY TO MR LEMIEUX EH! Welcome to the old folks club! Do you guys get AARP up there ; )

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From one Ontario man to another Ontario man. May you Rest In Peace.

Oroborous - Always glad to have you visit, welcome anytime!

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Total respect, Alex

Two raises of the proverbial glass to you, sir

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Hi there. Long time lurker, first time poster (I think?). So I have had a sub for a while and I always get two copies. This time, one of my copies of DP 36 was unnumbered, presumably a promo. I was not super happy to discover this and emailed Dead.net customer service right away, and got the familiar "We are overwhelmed with email and will get to you whenever" message.

Has anybody else had this happen and how did Dead.net resolve it? I mean, I paid for a subscription to limited edition releases. I normally keep one sealed as a collector's item, or sometimes resell it, but regardless - I don't think this is too cool. Between this and the speed correction issues on the last two releases, I'm considering not subscribing next year. :/

...I was at The Forum In So Cal to see the Stones (Two Shows that night) for my 19th Birthday...also on the bill was Terry Reid, BB King and Ike & Tina Turner...where does the time go indeed...I turned 70 today...ouch....Rock On All

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Happy birthday Nappy, you're a
cool guy. Those Stones shows you saw sound fantastic!

That tour when you saw them at 19 seems to be have been the one when they really clicked as a live band. Very confident, choosing to follow Ike and Tina Turner and B.B.King. They often had great bands or artists at their shows. The first time I saw them,though, they were supported by Cracker. Which doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

It seems to happen from time to time. Usually, but not always the result of cleaning up spam and sometimes they get a post or two that surrounds the spammer. I had a post disappear that had the word dose or dosed in it.

I'd take it as a badge of honor.

Sometimes it’s a reCRAPTCHA glitch.
It’s happened to me before. Took the reCRAPTCHA quiz and the whole page disappeared. When I reloaded the page the post was gone.

If your post was available for reading and then it disappeared, then it may have been scrubbed.

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Yes, the same happened to me. I've had one subscription for years, but I snagged an extra #32 (3-24-73 Spectrum) for a friend. One numbered copy arrived but a second never did. So i reached out to customer service and 4-6 weeks later an unnumbered copy arrived. I kept the numbered and gifted the un-one.

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As of 10/30 UPS tracking said that the package was transferred to a post office in the Bronx N.Y. where I live and would be delivered that very day but it still has not arrived. When I go to USPS tracking it says that they received "pre-shipment info" on 10/30 -- not the actual package. So there is a discrepancy between what UPS says and what USPS says.

So right now I am Sitting in Limbo!

Has anyone here in the New York area received Dave's 36?

As always my heart goes out to our long-suffering european friends and their postal dilemas.

I'm in the same boat in Maryland. It's been stuck in the label created ready to be shipped status for a week and a half.

Gonna get there... I don't know. Seems a common way to go.

I'm still not that worried but eventually I will have to take corrective actions on my own, which is always a bit of a pain.

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In the Toronto area. No rhyme or reason as to how fast or slow these things show up, really up to the whim of the post office. Being retired, I do some part time work at the post office just to hang out with folks, and at all the stations I’ve been at, it is like an Amazon/Wayfair etc warehouse, about 75% of the volume (my guesstimate) packages. In all fairness, they do try getting this stuff out the door, but man, it is overwhelming, so I’m not surprised when packages sit.

I hope everyone gets delivery real soon.

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the old shipping blues

today is Monday

you will reCEIVE your Daves today! can I get an amen?

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"I woke up this mo'nin'
No Daves been in my mail
I woke this mo'nin'
No Daves been in my mail

If it don't show up today
I'll jump around and flail"

I'm a regular Bob Dylan!

I've read elsewhere online from other NJ residents how theirs are also missing. Same with me. It seems they're all on the same vehicle to be delivered to the post offices but that vehicle has gone MIA or is simply sitting in the same spot on their property. There's no telling when/if they will arrive to the correct post offices. I even noticed my tracking received a retro-active update on the 30th stating it was transferred. I call foul because the update was not there at 1:35pm on that day because I was checking it through the afternoon and did not see it until the evening that day. They're still in possession of them but I'm sure they'll deny it and we can't put in a claim with UPS either.

And I agree with you. I would gladly pay for shipping if it meant avoiding UPS mail innovations. The Bridgeport hub is a blackhole.

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Is that in Europe? International shipping to NJ? By boat??

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Not to people really from there,,,, it's just Jersey!

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