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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • JimInMD
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    Mount Rushmore has a secret room that no one can enter. Located behind the facade of Abraham Lincoln, sculptor Gutzon Borglum designed the chamber to hold....

    Free concerts perhaps?

    I'd like to think of the Dead as the band that played in the secret room inside the mountain away from the park police, crowds and tourists.

    Just adding a little flavor to the conversation. It does have a secret room, this part is true.

    Edit: Then.... there's this. Hard to argue, it is written in stone.
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002293278936/

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    Let me rephrase, if I may . . .

    I certainly did not mean that before Dylan there was nothing happening in rock and roll. But to me, each of the important influences on what we would come to call "rock" music were limited and somewhat self-repeating streams. The great blues artists certainly did some great blues; the seminal folk/country/R&B/etc. artists did amazing things within their own genres. Elvis absolutely blew the door open for Little Richard, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry . . .

    But by the mid-Sixties, each artist was still somewhat re-writing what he/she had already written; musically and lyrically pop music had stagnated. The Beatles and Stones were poking at some cracks between genres, but then Dylan came and wiped out everything with the opening chord of "Like a Rolling Stone." After that, folkies could rock, blues musicians could rock, soul artists could rock, and rockers could do whatever they wanted. Now the Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Who, and the good ol' Grateful Dead could make rock music about anything, and could draw upon whatever influence tickled their fancy. And after Dylan, the sky was the limit, lyrically. The bands most of us repeatedly listen to were made possible by Robert Zimmerman. Would we still all listen to our Elvis, Muddy Waters, Sarah Vaughan, and Chuck Berry records had Dylan never existed? Undoubtedly. But not like we LISTEN to the Beatles, Stones, GD, Hendrix, Joni . . .

    And of course, I am open to the idea that I could be totally wrong about all this. :)

  • Oroborous
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    I still say Chuck was the real innovator in the chicken or egg argument, but I’m not going down that rabbit hole again.
    I got into like a four day tennis match last time lol

  • Colin Gould
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    If you really mean rock and roll then I think the four heads should be Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard.
    For myself choosing innovators I’d pick Robert Johnson, Mother Maybelle Carter, Jimmy Rodgers and Woody Guthrie.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMm4NEQc1Q. I still remember where I was the day he died.

  • unkle sam
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    got to agree with Daverock

    before Elvis there was nothing but the blues, then came Elvis and the cat was out of the bag. He was the one and only and totally brought rock to the masses. He did it with class and smarts, using his gospel roots to snare all the doubters and win over all the old folks who thought rock and roll was the devil in disguise. He had such class and could deliver a song like no other before him. He isn't called the King for nothing ya know.
    Funny how the conversation has veered to after the Dead bands. I saw them all, when Jer passed, I was left without a compass, he was my guiding light, my go to for all things psychedelic and the one and only. I did not want it to end and went to the first Furthur festival in 96 with Ratdog and loved it, it wasn't over and I had to have more. Then to the Furthur fest in 97 and 98 with the return of Phil to the line up, that one was special and then onward to 2000 with the return of Bruce and Billy, all were special in their own way but that 2000 line up was awesome with Mark K. and Steve K. duel leads was the sh%t. They got it down on that tour and one of my favorites of the post Jerry bands. Saw Ratdog many times back then also, loved every one of those shows as Bobby still had it and was not going to stop the bus. Saw Phil and friends with Warren back in 2001 also, right after his operation and they were good too, not furthurfest good, not ratdog good, but still good and loved the old tunes they brought back. Caught Furthur in 2010 at a 3000 seat auditorium, they were good, real good and John K was the best Jerry to date. Loved his take on Stella Blue, he nailed it. Honorable mention goes to Mickey's band, they were great and I was fortunate to catch them twice and both times they never lost site of what the Dead were all about, improv and great tunes. Love you Mickey.
    Sorry Billy but you were wrong and Trey was not the guy for FTW, he did not have what it took to fill the big guys shoes, IMHO. JK had been playing Jerry for years with DSO and he had the chops and knew the material by heart.
    Honorable mention again to DSO, best cover band yet.
    Yes, it should have been called Fare the Well Phil, but it was a money grab and that's the way it was to be. As I look back on these 25 years after Jerry has left us, I see the bus, with many different colours, still rolling down the road and will until they all leave us. Long live the Grateful Dead

  • daverock
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    Before Elvis there was nothing

    Thus sprake John Lennon. A bit overstated, perhaps, but the way Elvis welded blues, country, gospel, pop...whatever was to hand... was visionary. The recordings made for Sun still sound immaculate, and there is a great dvd called "Elvis in 1956" which shows him gravitate from cult to world wide fame in 12 easy months. Brilliant T.V. performances.
    In the notes for the 5 disc set "Complete 50's Master's", Scotty Moore describes his guitar work as "ancient psychedelia".
    Truly out of this world.

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    I think even Dylan would agree that rock n roll did not begin with a white guy! :) It was much deeper than that, thats partially why it was so controversial in society at the start.

  • billy the kid
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    Bob Dylan 1965. / Deadheadbrewer

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kv0vF41Bc. Deadheadbrewer, you make an excellent point. Here's where it all began, Dylan backed by members of the Paul Buttetfield blues band. So who's on your Mt . Rushmore of Rock & Roll.

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    But, Billy . . .

    Rock and roll BEGINS with Bob Dylan, no? :) (I humbly submit that it does . . . ) After Dylan rocked out, the Beatles and Stones were freed from being excellent Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry imitators respectively, and could then become the twin towers of soul-searing rock and roll. No?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...is now some of my favorite GD ever.

Thank you Dave for the new perspective.

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It's not one large pizza

It's two mediums

Two gloriously steaming pizzas

"Yummy"

- Ace Ventura

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50 candles 🎂 on a Ganga carrot birthday cake for his half century tomorrow.

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Jerry "little red light on the highway
Big green light on the speedway"

Fat Albert "hey hey hey"

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At least a week complete in a good mood.
I received the new Dave's I listened only once. It' s lock down again in France, and via Germany I grabbed a copy of American Beauty and 3 days later Working man' dead 50th.
I bought American beauty in vinyle, tape for the car , Cd, an a bit later the remaster with the bonus tracks and I don't pretend the dead has commercial intentions...
As I was expecting a port Chester boxset sooner or later I eventually got it
It took time to take the decision to buy the new copy. but it is Ok the sound is pretty good and the 2 concerts are top.
When I visited Us in 2002, I came back with a copy of Reflection I listened in the rent chevy in the wild west,with the beautiful Rowan Douglas Yonder, and Dick picks 7 I bought in San Diego. When I flew back to Europe I saw a student listening with a walkman a copy of American Beauty, likely a disk of his father, exactly what you need to stay in touch with your country and his cosmic cow boys. (Happy birthday)
This is the best disk the dead ever made in studio. a perfect disk for sunday morning. Obviously 20/20 was a good number for quarantine and I expect the new year with other good shows, and forgetting the sanitary situation.

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some balls are held for charity

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Really happy for this two show release. It really is immersive and captures the energy of riding that big old wave that was an 80's show. However this isn't what I'm looking for from this series. The matrix and ultramatrix recordings can be wonderful and a ton of fun, but these recording just aren't all that great. Way too much crowd. Massive muddling midrange. Feels distant. Phil is pudding. And the drums are somewhere in there. Don't get me wrong. This release is fun and gives any uninitiated head a taste of what it was like on the floor. Just not what I was expecting or hoping for from the series.

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until the 50th-anniversary version of Built to Last comes out! Which show from 1989 will Dave include in the box? :)

And Happy Birthday, Dave!! Love ya', man!

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In my very humble opinion, I'd give this one a "B", but not even a "B+". Like many others, I'm not thrilled with the crowd noise and the overall mix. I have plenty of 80s cassettes that will deliver the same sound quality. Phil seems pretty lost in the mix, Bob's guitar comes and goes. I don't think the "Birdsong" comes close to "best ever." And, I keep waiting for a searing solo in "China Cat ... I Know You Rider" that never materializes. On the positive side, Jerry sings like he's fired up, and Brent is playing well. I'm sure this release was a labor of love for Dave, but maybe it's time to pass the baton to a new set of ears...? Change is good.

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...has blow into Edmonton AB along with beautiful blizzard. After waiting seven weeks for DaP 35 to show up, I didn't expect this to arrive so soon - mailed off early, and took about two weeks to arrive. Dug into the first show last night, found it lovely and lively. That Bird Song really took me on a journey. And of course went to bed humming Mighty Quinn. I'll concede the crowd's a bit loud at first, but it evens out after a couple tunes and everything really comes together.

The '80s are by no means my comfort zone, but Dave's done a good job at converting me with these last two releases.

I am a robot, but not willing to admit it.

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To answer your questions:
1-Hey, we're still in love and in it for the long haul. I know she thinks I listen to too much Grateful Dead, and doesn't quite get the collecting thing. And for sure she occasionally reminds me that I can still be an a-hole. I bet there are some of you on this thread who can relate.
2-Peggy O is a mutual fave, and we have enjoyed it together at many a show.
3- NOT on purpose. I was pretty high and did a slow motion fall back into her lap while she was taking a breather. I found the experience pleasant, and she just stared. I read her mind.
4- The Math: I kept bumping into her on campus, and it took me a year to get up the nerve to ask her out to dinner.
Our first show together was Charlotte, 05/03/79. Long story short, we became an item, played house, and finally realized that everything was just exactly perfect, and the rest is history.

Edit: I guess this could be, in some way, a Grateful Dead Love Story.

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That sound like a Hallmark TV movie. Get the screenplay to them. Best wishes.

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USPS tell me my copy is in the UK so the delivery now depends on whether the powers that be decide to charge me.

On ‘that’ other topic I’d say that the time is right for dancing in the street, but with the pandemic I think it would be better to stay at home and stay safe. Let’s hope 2021 improves quickly.

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PROUDFOOT: not sure which I like better, 2 mediums or Fat Albert doing West LA, LOL

VGUY: I believe it’s even a tad brighter on my back door?

SHEKYERBONES: glad yer getting the new tunes and digging them. Funny juxtaposition yesterday enjoying people literally dancing in the streets but worrying it’ll kill em...

BIGBROWNIE: Built to last mi amigo, built to last! Been happily unmarried for 23 years, not sure how she does it!
It’s so nice to see folks still in love after so long! Pretty cool how things work out sometimes....
Great story, thanks for sharing!

THATMIKE: howdy neighbor! Used to be from “southern Canada” BITD...lived 15 minutes from the border so used to go up to Can-a-dy all the time. And Yassssss, a big

HAPPY, HAPPY, JOY, JOY TO MR LEMIEUX EH! Welcome to the old folks club! Do you guys get AARP up there ; )

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From one Ontario man to another Ontario man. May you Rest In Peace.

Oroborous - Always glad to have you visit, welcome anytime!

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Total respect, Alex

Two raises of the proverbial glass to you, sir

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Hi there. Long time lurker, first time poster (I think?). So I have had a sub for a while and I always get two copies. This time, one of my copies of DP 36 was unnumbered, presumably a promo. I was not super happy to discover this and emailed Dead.net customer service right away, and got the familiar "We are overwhelmed with email and will get to you whenever" message.

Has anybody else had this happen and how did Dead.net resolve it? I mean, I paid for a subscription to limited edition releases. I normally keep one sealed as a collector's item, or sometimes resell it, but regardless - I don't think this is too cool. Between this and the speed correction issues on the last two releases, I'm considering not subscribing next year. :/

...I was at The Forum In So Cal to see the Stones (Two Shows that night) for my 19th Birthday...also on the bill was Terry Reid, BB King and Ike & Tina Turner...where does the time go indeed...I turned 70 today...ouch....Rock On All

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Happy birthday Nappy, you're a
cool guy. Those Stones shows you saw sound fantastic!

That tour when you saw them at 19 seems to be have been the one when they really clicked as a live band. Very confident, choosing to follow Ike and Tina Turner and B.B.King. They often had great bands or artists at their shows. The first time I saw them,though, they were supported by Cracker. Which doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

It seems to happen from time to time. Usually, but not always the result of cleaning up spam and sometimes they get a post or two that surrounds the spammer. I had a post disappear that had the word dose or dosed in it.

I'd take it as a badge of honor.

Sometimes it’s a reCRAPTCHA glitch.
It’s happened to me before. Took the reCRAPTCHA quiz and the whole page disappeared. When I reloaded the page the post was gone.

If your post was available for reading and then it disappeared, then it may have been scrubbed.

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Yes, the same happened to me. I've had one subscription for years, but I snagged an extra #32 (3-24-73 Spectrum) for a friend. One numbered copy arrived but a second never did. So i reached out to customer service and 4-6 weeks later an unnumbered copy arrived. I kept the numbered and gifted the un-one.

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As of 10/30 UPS tracking said that the package was transferred to a post office in the Bronx N.Y. where I live and would be delivered that very day but it still has not arrived. When I go to USPS tracking it says that they received "pre-shipment info" on 10/30 -- not the actual package. So there is a discrepancy between what UPS says and what USPS says.

So right now I am Sitting in Limbo!

Has anyone here in the New York area received Dave's 36?

As always my heart goes out to our long-suffering european friends and their postal dilemas.

I'm in the same boat in Maryland. It's been stuck in the label created ready to be shipped status for a week and a half.

Gonna get there... I don't know. Seems a common way to go.

I'm still not that worried but eventually I will have to take corrective actions on my own, which is always a bit of a pain.

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In the Toronto area. No rhyme or reason as to how fast or slow these things show up, really up to the whim of the post office. Being retired, I do some part time work at the post office just to hang out with folks, and at all the stations I’ve been at, it is like an Amazon/Wayfair etc warehouse, about 75% of the volume (my guesstimate) packages. In all fairness, they do try getting this stuff out the door, but man, it is overwhelming, so I’m not surprised when packages sit.

I hope everyone gets delivery real soon.

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the old shipping blues

today is Monday

you will reCEIVE your Daves today! can I get an amen?

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"I woke up this mo'nin'
No Daves been in my mail
I woke this mo'nin'
No Daves been in my mail

If it don't show up today
I'll jump around and flail"

I'm a regular Bob Dylan!

I've read elsewhere online from other NJ residents how theirs are also missing. Same with me. It seems they're all on the same vehicle to be delivered to the post offices but that vehicle has gone MIA or is simply sitting in the same spot on their property. There's no telling when/if they will arrive to the correct post offices. I even noticed my tracking received a retro-active update on the 30th stating it was transferred. I call foul because the update was not there at 1:35pm on that day because I was checking it through the afternoon and did not see it until the evening that day. They're still in possession of them but I'm sure they'll deny it and we can't put in a claim with UPS either.

And I agree with you. I would gladly pay for shipping if it meant avoiding UPS mail innovations. The Bridgeport hub is a blackhole.

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Is that in Europe? International shipping to NJ? By boat??

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Not to people really from there,,,, it's just Jersey!

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