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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1281
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    it had been a long time since I'd spun 2/22/69 from 30 trips. everything you'd expect from a show from that time. really enjoyed it and will revisit fairly soon as is my want with shows that tickle my fancy. thanks Doc! on a side note, the one technical difficulty with that listen is that there is something about those discs that my external disc drive (LG M-Disc) really didn't care for. at one point it flat out quit reading Disc 1, something I've never had happen, and while it didn't quit during Disc 2, at several points towards the end it made noises that I've never heard from it before that seemed like the electronic equivalent of an old man wheezing up a hill who was barely going to make it (or maybe not!) this isn't disc rot, its something in how the discs were manufactured i'm guessing. from time to time I've had various weird issues with playability of discs from the GD folks that I've never experienced with any other CDs I've bought. it's very odd. And on the QC issue, I recently pulled out a disc from the Giants box to play it for the first time and there was a big splotch of an opaque light gray liquid on the playing surface, sorta looked like white out except for the gray color. i have never seen anything like it CD-wise and i haven't the faintest idea what the hell it could be or how it could have gotten there. I have a CS request in with Dr. Rhino -we'll see what happens.

    DV - 4/24/78 (DaP 7) was a show that had never really resonated with me - not when it was first issued, and not on subsequent revisits. And I've really gotten into the other released shows from that tour, Nashville and William and Mary. Well, finally got my head properly calibrated and my ears on straight and had an excellent listen. And then I spun it again. Full speed ahead Spring '78 Jerry and the Wolf with that excellent Betty sound. Thank you for suggesting that one.

    Now on maybe my third run through past few days of 2/23/74 (DaP 42). It sounds freaking fantastic! All of it! Blowing my mind! Nothing left to do but smile smile smile!! (Yeah I'm really digging it.) Still haven't cued up the next night, cause I keep getting distracted by all the other good stuff. Maybe tomorrow.

    Gonna have to visit those shows from late February, that one from Austin and Doc's most recent POTD from the Family Dog.

    Take care folks. And great to hear from you Rocktihng!. Rock on!!

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    I’ve enjoyed them all so far DV, but maybe it’s me, some seem to sorta plod for a awhile before they pick up steam in the second set. Recordings were inconsistent too…but?…maybe it was me, as Jim just said so we’ll, sometimes set and setting can have as much influence as the music itself! I actually got to sit a relax and listen to most, a couple I had on while doing household stuff, but I don’t think thats it?
    I’ve always been a huge fan of fall/winter 73, one of my personal top tours, and I purposefully haven’t dug into summer 73 too much as you’d think we’d get some of those sooner than later, but until I got the spring 73 Dave’s, I knew nothing about that tour. 21 With 21, I was a tad nonplused at first, probably just hung up on no Dark Star or other head noise nonsense, but it’s grown on me a lot since. That whole jam sequence is superb, and I’ll take a HCSS anytime!
    16 is one of my favorite Dave’s, so much so I purchased a copy off the black market! 32s good, actually need to listen to that as I’m not as familiar as I should be. I haven’t gotten to Crotchfester or Bu faf a lo yet…
    Every show has a nice big jam sequence, many killer 73 Eyes, a couple ridiculous PITB, some good HCSS, and the Dark Stars and accompanying jams etc, so worth it even just to check those out. Sorry to be so vague but it’s all kinda a blur. As I say, all very similar: relaxed with mostly good playing, until the big jam goes through the roof, rinse and repeat…lol.
    So far, I think the February shows are a bit more to my liking?

    Spring 78: of the dozen and a half or so on this tour, I think I’ve hit 10 so far. Some of the Beatty’s are spectacular and this tour took me by surprise. Getting the big blown away surprise of 4/15 (DaP 37) opened up that flood gate as the only official release I have is 37. I had no clue about this tour before, so yeah, big surprise!
    Hoping Realgone spits out Dicks 18 and that I can get disc copies of the other 2 Dave’s as long/short I don’t do files…actually might try to get 15 off the black market as sometimes those aren’t too outrageously expensive. Didn’t get subs until 21, but since I have a few others, thinking someday I’ll try to get real copies of the few missing so I’ll have 13 onward, with hopefully copies of the rest. I have at least copies of all but 5.
    I still think, partly due to the fine Beatty’s that there’s a potential for a spring 78 box, but maybe not enough interest for that?
    Awright, gotta head to the mine, staycation is over for now : (

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    Hello, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Family Dog At The Great Highway, February 28, 1970

    As a matter of self-preservation, a man needs good friends or ardent enemies, for the former instruct him and the latter take him to task……

    In November, we were teased with the Little Sadie and Black Peter, so we know that an excellent recording is in the vault. As far as early 1970 goes, the “big guns” of the Fillmores get most of the love, respect, and recognition, but this Family Dog run has some doggone good music!

    Call it a Lovelight sandwich, a grateful buffet with something for almost everybody. Electric/acoustic, grease, jams, old and new, all laid out as if on a platter. Dig in and enjoy!!!

    Those who have virtue always in their mouths, and neglect it in practice, are like a harp, which emits a sound pleasing to others, while itself is insensible of the music…..

    Rock on!

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    Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad…..

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    mmmm..... I might have to compare and contrast. It went down in my ever changing mind that Normal was, well it has that Scarlet Fire & Terrapin into drumz.. but Nashville had a crisper sound and better separation between the instruments, plus a really good Peggy-O and Estimated Eyes. Both shows have a good Lovin', but full disclosure the Bobby GL's never did it for me, too formulaic and his rants did not come across as genuine as Pigs. So a little hotter v better sound. But don't consider this an analysis, my listens tend to be more influenced by focus and frankly my mood and receptiveness.

    I did both all 73 shows consecutively years ago and '78 through May.. but I am always doing stuff so I don't have the rabbit ears of OB and Rock Thing; their attention to detail is most appreciated and enjoyable to take in. Plus.. I'd gladly pay the price of an IMax theatre experience to listen to a show in casa Oroborous just to take in his personal, home edition Wall of Sound. I forked out big bucks 20 years ago for my system but it pales in comparison.

    As for March '73, I walked away big on Philly and Baltimore but Boston Garden did not register and in hindsight it's hot, hot, hot. When I weigh on a show, it's an opinion at a point of time that can be bribed by party favors and mood for the day. A mortal flaw.. first world problems.

    So I am to revisit 4/78. I think I need to work a little less and live a little more. I pulled down the new 2/17/73, that's on my list. I'd like to take in some Fall and Winter '73. A compare and contrast of the last two shows of the year perhaps.. Did Dick pick the right show for DiP1? Inquiring ears want to know.

    I'd like to contribute more.. but it's been a challenging year full of distractions. Summer is coming, so there's that.

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    You don't have #7 OB? We need to change that, I think you would really like this show.

    I will definitely go back and listen to #37 again. I know I had it up within the last couple of months.

    I did listen to #15 from Nashville over the weekend and I don't think Bob was happy with the first set, "That's it, we quit" Good show and the sound quality is as good as #7. Nice Estimated Eyes and Wharf Rat.

    Do you have any recommendations from your recent tour of March 73?

    I mean, this is a hot period. What a tour this is. More from this tour would be welcomed.

    Slow day on the site.

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    Continuing on with 73:
    3/16/73
    3/19/73
    3/21/73
    3/22/73
    2/22/69
    Plus miscellaneous spins of DaP 45
    Now playing 3/27/83, followed by 2/23/70.
    Don’t have Dave’s 7, one of 5 I don’t have copies of…
    Hmmm, that’s a bold statement DV as DaP 37 blew me away.
    Perhaps because I was not expecting it to be and sound as good as it was?
    Every show I’ve heard so far from this tour is good, highly recommend 4/11 and 4/16 too!

    Agree, like DaP 13 better than DaP 42.

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    Haven't listened to this show in a couple of years and wow, I think I like it even more now. A+ on sound quality and both sets deliver high energy Dead. Love the NFA, Black Peter, Around and Around and close it out with Werewolves of London. I went back and read the liner notes again and low and behold, they were written by Blair Jackson. Since I have 78 on my brain, I think I will check out Dave's 15 from 4/22 in Nashville. Of the three released from this time period 4/24 seems to be the top dog in my book. The William and Mary show is good, not great. On to Nashville.

    Hope you all have a great weekend.

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    You cats are already on to 1973. I'm still savoring the gentle respite in the oasis of Austin.

    Death don't have no mercy, but there's always time for lunch.
    Thanks for reminding me of LL. I need to see if I can get reinstated over there.

    Grateful Dead Live at The Auditorium, Austin, Tejas on 1970-02-23
    Harpur College was another of my heavy, heavy rotation tapes back in the day, along with the 2/18/71 Capitol Theater show I've already mentioned numerous times. Both were massive inspirations. For what seems in hindsight like a fairly significant period of time, if it wasn't one of those, it was Reckoning.

    I Know You Rider: Lovin' the energy and grit of this Rider. It's almost angst.

    High Time: This is a song! It's a pretty weird song, too, and after attempting it several times, myself, I must say it isn't surprising it wasn't played often. Damn, it's hard to sing. I submitted a completely deconstructed version of this for the February Dead Covers Project a few years back. I made a point of not revisiting to the original before recording, just going off memory and some notes left in an old binder of songs. I'm sure the ever-growing defenders of canon were thinking, "You ain't doin' it right if you ain't readin' it off a teleprompter." It was an "interpretation". Lol.

    Dire Wolf: What a lyric. An electric version, no less. Pretty mellow electric set, almost acoustic.

    Yellow Dog Joke… ah… well way to go for completely screwing up the joke, Bobby… actually, I'm not sure I've ever heard him make it all the way to the punch line. We should all heed Jerry's advice and "Don't encourage him." Everything was so light and positive in these days. Phil could be a bit surly, as we've already heard in this tape.

    Monkey and the Engineer: This was a standard in my old folk-rock duo. My partner played it and I just followed along. I'd have to start from scratch to figure out how to play it again. Such good stories in these tunes.

    Little Sadie: Nice. This wasn't on the Harpur College tape or Reckoning. Another dark story. I don't see how they could possibly be breaking strings playing such gentle music.

    Me and My Uncle: I don't recall hearing an acoustic version. It's a great song and works in any format. At this point everyone hadn't already heard it a million times. Imagine that!

    Black Peter: One of my favourite tunes ever. Doesn't get much darker than a song from the point of view of a death bed. Started doing this one myself occasionally a few years ago, but I always need a cheat sheet for the bridge. Nothing repeats. There are some interesting mnemonic connections between the chords and the words that help. Just have to sit down and do my homework. Ahh… yeah, Pig sittin' in nicely on the organ. This song needs a really delicate hand, but the organ adds a nice little gospel flavour. If only Pig coulda added just a touch more flair to his playing to fill in some lines before Jerry takes his solo. Pig's got the tone.

    Seasons of the Heart: Never heard this before. Great pick! Thanks.

    Uncle Johns: Have heard this one a few times. 😉

    Not Fade Away: I'm gonna call the union! The Galactic Rock'n'Roll Union! That needs to be a band name, or a song, or something! Crazy to think this tune was in their set their entire career. Some good ol' primal energy here. Jerry's "wild" tone. He must've had the amplifier turned WAY up, cause it sounds like he's not in the mix at all. His guitar is just being picked up by a vocal mic, or something. Basically, no drums, either. I can't keep track of which guitars he was playing in the early years. He seemed to play whatever was available after giving up the Starfire. Sounds kind of like a Stratocaster, The Graham Nash Strat, perhaps? Alligator did not come on the scene until later, if I recall correctly. This tone has even more of a stereotypical Stratocaster sound than Alligator, which retained very little Fender electronics by the time it gets heard on Europe '72. Anyone? Oh, cool call and response with Pig. TC has already left at this point? I need to get my timelines straight. Bobby diggin' in with some soulfully aggressive singing, rather than simply aggressive.

    Mason's Children: I can't recall ever hearing this, either. The name comes up often, but it's not on anything I've listened to regularly. Again, thanks for this pick! As you say, not exactly high-energy stuff, but some very rare pieces here. Always appreciate the chance to learn something new about this fascinating family.

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    Rockers!

    Lunch time. Death takes a breather. We're in the land of the living, gotta eat lunch.

    The "new, fixed" 2/17/73 was up at Lossless Legs first thing this morning. So, it sometimes pays dividends to get up early............

    So, one can get it there, or I can supply it to anybody who needs/wants..............

    The wise man does not lay up his own treasures. The more he gives to others, the more he has for his own......

    Rock on,

    Doc
    It is by going down into the abyss that we recover the treasures of life. Where you stumble, there lies your treasure......

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    Hey Doc,

    Where is the new Miller for this show? I see a 2020 transfer from Miller on the archive as of this morning, and this one has issues.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 10:48

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For Fightin' And Complainin', Lord We Should Be Having Fun!
- Bob Weir 12/31/71

Ahoy Matey's!

Did I hear something about 1970 going on today?

Happy Birthday David Lemieux!
You young pup you... Gotcha by almost 5 months ;)

I fell down a new release & 30 Days of the Dead wormhole... coming through the other side today with some lingering 1971 playing in the background.

Caught bits of 11/7/71 yesterday, the good bits! That's a tasty Dark Star.
2/18/71 is sounding Awesome.
3/26/87 & 3/27/87 are representing Spring '87 Tour in the official release canon.
All and all, the energy and the excitement is there. And most present, the 1987 Spring Tour Roar!!!
(Note: These are probably the best recordings from that tour, due to Healy's UltraMatrix experiment going on this year. My guess would be the official release are as good as they're going to sound. So you get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as we used to say to my daughter.)
And 30 Days of the Dead has been fun, I'm 8 for 8, isn't that great?!?!

11/3/20 threw me off and after spending too much time figuring out which version of Good Time Blues I was hearing, I've been playing catch up all week on my GD time allotment.
Plus I've been learning some cool CSS stuff, and let's not forget there's been an historic election.
So there's all my excuses for not regaling you all with my colorful commentary this week, but I was here in spirit.

By the way yesterday's 30 DOTD show 7/25/74.. that Dark Star!!! Love it!
I don't think we've done that one yet, we should make that a pick one of these Days.

OB: Sounds like we've been in the '71 space time continuum together. Not too many jams in the early months of that year, 3/18/71 Caution is worth seeking out for sure, and then the only thing coming to mind is 4/29/71, which is legend.

The jams really start to pick up once Keith joins the band, prior to that, they're crafting new songs and giving those the once over twice. If there's some jammy jams that you all know of in the early months of '71, let us know. But from what I recall, they're all pretty short. November '71 was sounding good yesterday, and this 12/31/71 I stumbled into is like the best NYE show I've listened to all day ;)

November 8th 1970? Ironically that's kind of the last big jammy month from what we have before the early 1971 saloon Dead begins to take shape. The December 1970 stuff really sounds like a prelude to early 1971.

Looking forward to those November Capitol Theatre stories Strider.
I want to hear all about it. The scene, the color of the curtains, who did the light show, what cartoons they played during intermission, all the deets!!

Alright, good to see you're all still rockin' the tunes.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 11:52

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I listened to 11/8/70 this morning on relisten including NRPS. I highly recommend it for a listen on this half century mark. I wrote down impressions and thoughts and mined memories. Will just say that for now.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 13:47

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The song selection is all over the map. It reminds me of Dylan and the Band at Big Pink. Was there with Kirk and Judy. We sat in pretty good balcony seats. Of a few bands and nine Dead shows I went to at the Capitol Theater 11/8/70 was my only time sitting in the balcony. The big-O -Otis was there, liked the balcony the best.
Started listening 5am. The acoustic set was fantastic opening with Dire Wolf and then slow version I Know You Rider.Was gettin jiggy during Rosalie Mcfall and operator .
NRPS set with Jerry and Mickey was standard 1970. Garcia’s pedal steel guitar was always so sweet . Any NRPS recordings are worth hearing.
The Dead’s electric set was also spectacular. Morning Dew opener wow! Only time Mystery Train was played, First Around and Around . Truckin has an interesting fall 1970 unique jam sounding Chicago Blues back into slow shuffle, killer. Baby Blue was one of the best versions I’ve ever heard from the Dead. First verse only.Dark Star with spectacular post 1st verse jam, space/feed back. The Celtic art work and plaster work on the Capitol walls glowed purple . The Dead did not have a light show at the Capitol like at the Fillmore. February 71 were only slides for the ESP experiment. The band was in top form November 8th, at the same time David Lemeiux was being born. Auspicious.
I was way impressed with the quality of the audience tape. Not the highest quality audio but the historical aspect of that particular night and set list.
I count my lucky stars to have been 16 fifty years ago and lived 15 miles from the Capitol Theater.

I agree with the quality of the 11/8/70 audience tape, one recorded by Ken and Judy Lee. Ancient and historic. If you haven't read this, check it out. For most of 1970, if there was not tapers in the audience, the shows might as well not have happened....

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/short-guide-to-1970-audience-tap…

Sort of like the 1970 Good Lovin' > La Bamba > Good Lovin'
If the tape didn't survive, we would not know it happened.

"11-11-70 is a wild, long show, with the first La Bamba in Good Lovin (I don't think they repeated this for 17 years!), and an hour-long series of jams with Jack Casady & Jorma Kaukonen; unfortunately the recording is pretty poor."

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-11-11.aud.cotsman.17081.sbeok.shnf

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 15:11

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I just did the 9th a couple months ago.. did we do that one here?

I might skip it and do the 10th and 11th.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 11/08/2020 - 18:26

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Yes, we did this one in the Spring. I think it was Bolo's pick. He was there! Where is Bolo?

Time to check in Bolo.

I am marching on with the full box run, because it is so damn good. First release with Plangent. I remember when Bolo started this in March, holy crap.

Stay well folks.

And Happy Birthday Dave L.

I will be joining you in the 50 club next month. Can't believe it.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 05:51

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Causing geopolitical mayhem no doubt. With elections over, perhaps we they will give him a day or two off.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 06:13

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What a great box set, in the top 3 of all time box sets. It's right there with Fillmore West and Europe 72. My brother went to 11/9/73, he had a great time.

Wow!

November 8, 1970 is one of the all time great shows, it also seems like a sign post of sorts.
Last 1970 Acoustic set (as far as we know)
The End of Primal Dead

Primal Dead... that's the stuff man. But it definitely came to an end as the band evolved. To me hearing this show and then looking at what we have on tape after this, this show feels like it's the last one where you just really didn't know where the music would take the band. It's raw and powerful and you can tell they're just feeling it and it's going places. After this, they still went places, but in my opinion with much more focus and control, this stuff here... this is just anything goes and nobody knows kinda Dead.
Primal Dead.

It's hard to say if any other shows in November or early December reach this level of improvisational freedom and continuity, but from what we have on tape. This is the last true example of that.
Again, this is all my opinion. But suffice to say, listen to this show in it's entirety before you die.

Love it!

And as for the recording, I'd always listened to the recordings that Ken Lee made from this run as well as the June Capitol run, but yesterday I stumbled on to the Marty Weinberg recording and I have to say, it's quite enjoyable.
Maybe better than Ken's? Not sure... but worth a listen.

Marty's Legendary status has outlived his tapes. Not that many exist, and even those that do, aren't typically the best versions in comparison, but this might be his best remaining recording.

And, here's what he had to say about this show -
In regards to the Capitol run 11/5 - 11/8 - "In many ways, those shows were the best… The audience was very sophisticated. At those shows…there wasn’t a lot of clapping at weird times. It was an older audience, and the people listened… I was sitting in the first few rows of the theater with a lot of people who were true believers, who went to a lot of shows, and who really understood the better shows… You had a group of people in the first twenty rows that knew a good show..."

For 11/8 Marty said - "It was a very magical show."
Nuff said.. he's right, it was and is a VERY magical show.

Strider, thanks for the inside insight. Man, I wish I coulda been there with you. The stuff you saw my friend, was the stuff to see!

Great blog posts about this show at deadessays.blogspot

If anyone has the Taper's Compendium Addendum please let me know, I'd really like to read the whole Marty Weinberg interview!

Alright, moving on to 11/9/73 you say?
Far out, based on my list, we haven't officially done that show, we did 11/10/73 on 4/27/20 and that may have been Bolo's first show... but maybe he can clear that up?

What say you Bolo?

Good stuff.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 16:17

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On the Weather Report Suite... The Playing and Here Comes Sunshine are awesome... Agree with Billy the Kid about this being top three box set release. I actually listen to this box the most... The Dark Star from the 11th is my go to Dark Star that has been released... Bob T

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 11/09/2020 - 18:51

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....got it for $79.99 I believe.
Kicked the can on the 1977 one. Then it skyrocketed in price.
I think I got the better of the two. I think 🤔
Time to spin 11.9.73 with Patriots/Jets in the background.

You definitely got the better of the two boxes, but in truth.. they are both awesome. I just don't reach for the '77 one nearly as often.

Agree with the number three box rating too. What a sweet little box.

I remember when it came out reading about complaints on the sound quality. I was like, whaaaaT? I guess you can see their points if you are comparing this to your favorite studio album, but this is late 1973 Grateful Dead, basically in the months leading up to Wall of Sound. It sounds farkin wonderful to me, and the music/performances, USDA Grade AAA+.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 09:54

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...I was just slipping into the PITB from 10/19 when I came here and you bastards had to dangle the 73 Winterland box at me, Dooaahh! Most def top shelf box for this kid. Never listen to W77...hell haven’t listened to this in forever with all the other gazillion things I’ve picked up the last few years lol. Nice problem to have I know.
Don’t actually have either of those, since back then I wasn’t so into it (getting more stuff), didn’t have much disposable income, and my cousin was getting it all (some for free!) so I had access to the music....FF to now...Idiot! Even with all that I can’t believe I didn’t pick this one up seeing as how fall 73 has always been a top fav. 77 meh, good shit but not a personal go to so that one doesn’t bother me much, but Winterland 73.....sigh!
But hey, at least I have this awesome music, so off we go, starting with 11/9, my day by the way, and onward!
Live Dead for dessert!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 12:28

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Thanks for steering me in this direction thoroughly enjoying this; Big Playing, awesome HCSS, To Lay me down, WRS, Eyes, Stella, yee-gads forgot how great this one is...and now off to “electronic spiders” 😱

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 14:59

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Working my way through it. 11/9 is so damn good. Love that first set closer Playing. To Lay Me Down, I agree Oroborous, is a highlight. Love the 73-73 versions of this tune.

Just finished the first set of 9/10 and it is smoking. I might need through Thursday to get through these three shows if Bob t gives it the green light.

This was the last box set before Rhino took over....

Dedicated to the memory of Don Pearson.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 16:16

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Awesome little Box!
Got it when it first came out and listened to it so extensively that I got a little bored and moved on to other releases, but still listened to it a few times a year.

Last night as I was playing the 9th, I did think to myself, “self, PNW Box might have better sound quality”.
No worries though because I like both Boxes and will keep listening to both.

What’s really awesome is that the official release collection is getting so big that there is always a lot to choose from, especially if you listen to all years.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 11/10/2020 - 18:30

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Ok so the first time they ever split Playin was the famous 10/18/72 Fox theatre.. They go on and shelf that idea for a year, bring it back split in Omaha on 10/21/73, and again on 10/27/73 in Indy... Then in Evanston on 11/1/73 we get the Morning Dew>Playin>UJB>Playin... A week or so later we get this beautiful peace of musical magic!!! How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop... the world will never know!!! P.S. Deadvikes take all the time you want, to quote the Simpsons, "Eat all you want, take all you'll eat!" Bob t

Hey you guys that missed out on getting the 73 Winterland box put yourself in my place. I had tickets to all three shows and gave them away. I was in college at the time. The shows were Friday Saturday and Sunday night and I had a huge test on Monday so I gave them to a friend and stayed home and studied. Not a day goes by...

I did catch the San Diego show a couple days later though.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 04:28

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That stings.

Still, a cool story, MH. It happened to a lot of us, but in most cases not for such a glorious run of shows.

They are some of my favorites...

Bob T: Nice synopsis!
PITB is my favorite subject.

The palindrome versions are a thing of beauty and I never get tired of hearing them.
I am noticing after revisiting 11/1/73 the other day, that I like it when Morning Dew gets it's final closing phrase, but I digress. That's the Dew not the Playin'.

I wonder what type of conversations happened within the band around the development of Playing In The Band as a jam vehicle.

Ironically we've listened to some of the key sign posts recently: 11/8/70 - final Main Ten, 2/18/71 first time played, 5/26/72 first break out of the 7/4 time. Definitely key in the development of this AWESOME song.

Then the shows you mentioned: the epic 10/18/72 split, return of the split on 10/21/73 & 10/27 and the 11/1/73 split. And yesterday, the first Palindrome. Just killer killer stuff.
(Shot out: I'm really digging 11/9/73 PITB, can't stop listening to it. It stands alone)

Playing In The Band RULES!

But today... It's all about the Dark Star :)

PS - MH ohhh that's a heartbreaker!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 07:49

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Playing
Truckin/Other One
Dark Star

They’re all awesome!

Mmmmmm........psychedelic jam.......

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 07:53

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As great as 11/10 is, I think I really dug 11/9 more, and yes that playin is spectacular!
So did 11/9, 11/10, and Live Dead.....perhaps not a true DHBrewer hatrick, but you’d think I’d at least get the third star lol.
So today looking forward to the big finale and that awesome Dark Star!
Onward!

MH: can’t imagine having to live with that “choice” lol, Dooaahh stooopppiid education!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 09:14

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That is a bummer that you missed those shows MHammond, pretty sweet you saw the San Diego show, Iove that show.

I was thinking yesterday as I was listening to this wonderful 73 boxset, if I could pick one month to go back in time to see the Dead, it would be November 73.

Would love to hear about that San Diego show if you care to share?

Good work Oroborous, 11/9 and 11/10 in one day! I am still working on 11/10 today. Too much other stuff going on this week. I will get caught up.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:02

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Sometimes it's the words left unsaid that mean the most.

A few years after Winterland '73 a couple to a few mini me's appeared on the scene and are now perhaps as big a fans as their old man..

Pulling from memory of what was written years ago on these threads, they have seen several (many?) shows of varied configuration including an evening with DSO. Dad was getting texts of the songs and putting together the setlist and they collectively figured out the show. Low and behold they got a redux of 5/7/72 Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, certainly one of the great shows in GD history.

So maybe that weekend he invested in digesting and retaining information played a part in bringing another generation into the fold. Sometimes the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. I hope I didn't overreach in writing this.

Now, back to 10/10/73 (yes, I am day behind)

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:21

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You are the master at putting lipstick on a pig. Yes staying home that weekend helped to solidify my relationship with my girlfriend who is now my wife and mother of my 2 children and all 4 of us are deadheads and have been to many shows together. All because I stayed home that weekend. I'm gonna go with that. Thanks.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 13:00

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I was living in the dorms at the time and a large group of us were going to concerts together at the Sports Arena all the time. Tons of great bands were touring at the time (Allman Brothers, Zappa, Traffic, Leon Russell etc...) and the dorm had 4 camps so to speak. West Coast Acid Rock (Dead), Classic Rock (Stones etc), Southern (Allmans), and the Bowie fans. The hype around the Dead at the time was nonexistent and the Sports Arena was configured to house about 2/3rds capacity but there was still plenty of room on the floor. The following account is not upheld by listening to this show from TTATS (the first set sounds pretty good) but these are my memories. The first set wasn't very good and by the start of the second set I had made my way down front and center and the mood was kind of ugly. One guy in particular kept yelling "Ace get your act together!" as the band tuned up for the second set. And the rest is history. They started with Truckin at what seemed like twice the volume of the first set and shut everybody up fast and I don't think they stopped playing until the end of the show including an Other One jam like no other. We all walked out of the Arena exhausted but with that big post Dead concert smile on our face. Later I started hearing Wake Of The Flood being played a lot in the dorm. A lot of converts made that night.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 16:28

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Sounds like you made the right choice, family wise .

Is your DX80 still working?
Mine died. Started skipping and crashing, and then actually started playing the music backwards. Software reinstalls didn’t fix it. I’ve been meaning to turn it on and let the battery run out and see if that does anything.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:26

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Still works like a charm. Love it. Thanks for the rec.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:52

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That’s great.
I like that model because it has an optical out port and my stereo has optical in ports.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 18:13

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Been busy with November 73 and 77 anniversary listens (doing 77 in the car which takes longer, so just finished 11-4 today as I got home from work).

But anyway, my point.
Just realized that yesterday was the anniversary of 11-10-67.
Playing the digital file now, but also have the vinyl which I’m going to play this weekend.
To me the vinyl sounds way better on this release.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 11/11/2020 - 19:50

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That is great, thanks for sharing. So interesting to hear about this show and the first set. Being there is always different than hearing the show later in life.
And how true that the Dead were not that big in 1973. What is great for you and a lot of us is that we were able to see them live. And how lucky we all are that they toured so much and recorded and kept almost all of their shows (cough cough with the exception of Warfield Radio City).

I do have a good Wake of Flood Album story, but I will save that for another day.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/12/2020 - 11:39

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Meandering through archive now that Winterland anniversary is over, and I found an Owsley Audience copy of this show... Playing in the Band, Promised Land, Ramble on Rose, Me and Bobby Mcgee... and then Dark Star>Philo Stomp>Morning Dew... I never have given this a fair listen before.... I have been missing a lot!!!! The rest of the show if from a different source... Saw there is a board of 11/12/72 also from Soldiers and Sailors going to listen after this one.... Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/12/2020 - 19:19

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Not good... zero drums or piano, and vocals are distant... I tried a few songs and jumped around... 11/13/72 Bear's audience is awesome!!! Bob t

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 06:18

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That's the Universe talking Jim!

For some reason 11/13/72 made me wander to 11/26/72, as I believe that Dark Star has a big Philo Stomp too, or at least a bass solo.

Anyhow.. Definitely a show worth exploring.
Bird Song, Box, Playing, Dark Star, Brokedown all kindsa good stuff and it's 72.

Just saying.. The Universe may be pointing to the San Antonio Civic Auditorium.

BTW: Speaking of the Universe. The Grateful Dead is currently in the record charts -
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9483612/grateful…

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 09:39

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I mean.. Slow Dog ;)
Noodle.

Let's do it.
Circulating SBD is a little skeevy, but wth.

11/26/72 San Antonio Civic Auditorium here we come..

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/13/2020 - 13:23

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Show ends with Stella Blue, I Need Bertha's Good Lovin'.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 06:47

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11/26/72, delayed approach. I do live in New Mexico. Or is it just a case of arrested development.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 07:58

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Than Never.

San Antonio 72 is worth the trip.

Man, they played some good shows that year.
(I know, duh.. but it's still amazing me just how good they were in '72 even after all these years. And that's why I love 1972)

Speaking of love... this ole bootleg could use some!
We got 3 sources available online currently.
I'm not a fan of shnid=127478 "restoration" from 2014, too much digital processing on that for my ears. I'll take the muffled hiss of the first 2.
Secondly the cleaned up version of Dark Star with patched reel flip in Me And Bobby Mcgee of shnid=123022 from 2013 is a must to have in addition to the original shnid=9248 from 2004.

Man I love digital collecting.

You don't have to make room or spend money on tapes, just collect the stuff you want organize it and listen to it and drift off into a wonderful blissful dreamy landscape of Dead.

Which I hope is where this Bird Song, Playing In The Band, Dark Star, Brokedown took / takes you all.
I gotta listen to all of those again today :)

Enjoy!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 08:45

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Okay, what is the pick today?

I did receive my AB release yesterday. Man those Port Chester shows are fun and the band was playing really well. Sound quality is A++