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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2351
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    More on GD/Amps/US Navy

    I was close... if you google it you will get an answer pretty quick. Here is a quick quote from my first google land.

    Rosie McGee was cracking up at her desk when Dennis "Wiz" Leonard walked in from lunch.

    "What's the story?" Wiz asked McGee, then a receptionist and bookkeeper at Alembic, a California-based custom electric guitar, bass, and pre-amp company where Wiz worked as an audio engineer.

    "Well, the Department of Defense just called me," she told him. "They were asking if we could defer the purchase of our next four 3500s, so they could get four."

    Those amps were in high demand at Alembic. The 3500s, in particular, would be used in the Wall of Sound's vocal array tweeters, drum tweeters, and for Jerry Garcia's guitars. But was it just Alembic buying them up? A rumor was going around—a "urban myth," Wiz told me—that the US military was using Mac 3500s for sonar, specifically to listen for Soviet submarines.

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    Isn't the goal here to be lighthearted? I try my best to not let the craziness of the world/media not get to me here? Isn't the goal here to be a kind prankster? They ask, "Are you kind?" Most of the flamers I look like as children, either actual age or not. Many are so deep in social media and issues that result thereof, they cannot see what it is doing to them. They are being handled, manipulated, and unwittingly abused by the profiteers. I try to stay away.

    Jim, had no idea of the McIntosh amp issues. Thanks for that piece of info. As much as I love the music, it is just how they were. So real and fun which someone wrote, "creating their own iconography." The richness of their traditions and internal musical dialog that we love is an unending source of comfort as they lived it everyday for 30 years. I wish I had a shot at hearing even 50% of their music, but as I have written before, my OCD makes me wear out a great jam over and over instead of looking for the next one. Need to work on that for sure.

    So Jim and Oro and many others, thanks for passing the test.

    G

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    You are kind soul.. I appreciate all you provide here. Same goes to Oro. I think it would take a face to face to catch me up on all the technology (old or new) that the two of you bring for me to truly understand. As for old.. and I am sure you both know.. in either late 73 or early 74 (I think 73).. the GD got into a scuffle with DOD over equipment they were ordering that was desperately needed for national security. Apparently, the Macintosh amps they were buying in unprecedented numbers were needed both in general and more specifically by special, top secret subs that needed the clean sound and amplification to either detect enemy interference or better hear and make stealth the noise they were making. So they called the GD and tried to work out a way to either stall, postpone or barter a purchasing arrangement that would not jeopardize national security.

    I think this is well known, and I apologize in advance for going on memory and surely confusing some of the information listed above as fact. ..but what is written is pretty close, if someone can clarify and correct it would not offend me in the least.

    Hope I didn't write anything that was incorrect or in any way interpreted as insulting or offensive.

    As for chainsaws and sawzaws to clear way for our living room WOS.. what could possibly be more fun.

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    Ah the sounds of my earliest fun dentist. "You dont need no gas!"

    All my stereo stuff is old, always fussy. Running all old Yamaha into JBL (plus svs). Trying to get stuff cleaned and parts replaced. When it is on, it is quite the stereo indeed. I have an old yamaha eq that I hooked up when Dave's first show was released. Goes into Pre amp, then to a yamaha mx-830. The MX-830 is powering 4 jbl g300's and 2 jbl LX 600's. Running 6 speakers means the amp is running at 550 watts at 2 ohms. It cooks. The speakers all have same tweeters and mid ranges. The 300s run 8" woofers and the 600s have 10 inch woofers. It is old but as you say "in budget." Smile.

    edit:
    Then the svs has a 550 watt continous, 850 watt peak sledge. The svs I picked up a few years back for $399. I had to have a sub with an internal crossover. So out of preamp to svs (rca cables), then back into the preamp, then to amp. Having old yamaha means older connection points. Modern amps control the crossover themself and pump sub out already crossed over. I happen to run my internal sub amp at a cutoff of 82 hz. George Lucas uses 80 hz crossover in his THX sound systems. So I am slightly above that. I did some sampling of the room using the preamp features.

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    Do you have any '74 Dijon?

    Neanderthal's use chain saws.. a sophisticated audiophile attacks their living rooms delicately with a sawzaw.

    I'm totally jealous.. I am blasting with my 20 year old Denon, similar age speakers with no intents on upgrading anytime soon. Budgets be budgets..

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    Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

    No 18's here. Of course not needed.

    Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

    I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

    Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

    That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

    Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

    I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

    Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

    Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

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    That’s what chain saws are for!

    Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
    What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
    But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
    Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

    PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.

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    I want what Phil's having...

    Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.

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    thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

    It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

    Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

    Hope all well your way!

    G

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    As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

    Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
    Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
    Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
    Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
    In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
    Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
    This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 09:02

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DV - Yes sir, them Port Chester Multi-Tracks are the bomb!

Slow Dog Noodle requested 3/14/81 audience recording by Barry Glassberg.

So it would appear that '81 is in the air.

Good year that '81.

listening to the 2/18/71 DS>>Rat>>DS, 11/11/73 disc 3, and the second set of 10/19/73....I think it’s become a grounded vindaloop?
Wanna try that 81 I f I cou ld j u st br e a k f r ee!

EDIT: Barry Glassberg? Isn’t that Barry from Sundance Books still located in downtown Geneseo NY?
Used to get our tapes from Barry and Fred way BITD! Good people!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 11/14/2020 - 10:45

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OB: That's a good question!
Unfortunately, I'm afraid I don't know the answer.
Anybody on here got the scoop?

I do know that Barry is in the class of "legendary tapers" and is often mentioned along with Jerry Moore and Rob Bertrando. So yeah, top of the class.

One thing I did find out about Barry Glassberg today is:
He made a fuckin' excellent recording of the Grateful Dead at Hartford Civic Center on 3/14/81!
Damn, this sounds good.
And the Sugaree just slayed me.

Nice pick Slow Dog Noodle!

I like the direction of the discussion on Anniversaries today ICECRMCNKD
11/15/71 & 11/15/72 look like they have my name on em.

I'ma gonna dust these two gems off and shine them up for the old ear holes.

Hot Dog!

I mean, Slow Dog...
Noodle.
Dug the 3/14/81 show, thanks for the pick.
That lead into Stella Blue where Jerry visits Bach's Jesu, joy of man's desiring is dreamy.
And great recording, I was glad to see that was indeed the recording that I had in my collection.
Along with the Set 2 SBD.

Need to check out the 3/12/81 Playing In The Band today.. I started it last night but crashed.
So that's next up after this Bucket > Sugaree from another era and then on to the Anniversary shows!

Alright, good times.
Hope all are well and enjoying some good tunes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 08:40

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We ONLY listen to shows with a Cumberland. (kidding of course)

Last night I finally finished my listen to Winterland '73. Holy sunshine barrels Batman, that run is fantastic. I have not listened to it in sequence, note for note probably since it came out.

Two To Lay Me Down's (does the 2nd get the nod?), the Big Rivers are some of the finest played, the PITB from 11/9 has already garnered several accolades on this thread, Row Jimmy, China>Riders, all some of the best versions from the year. The second sets of 11/10 and 11/11 are other worldly. But how about those three Weather Report Suites? Flawless and emotive, spectacular. But those two second set jams are really the special sauce that holds this run together. The Dark Star>Eyes is simply jaw dropping and the recordings?

What a classic.

I have officially given up on getting my Dave's Picks 36 any time soon, and wouldn't you know it.. some kind soul gave me at the least music to get me through. I just listened to those two shows note for note too.. perhaps I will revisit the 36 thread while it's all still fresh.

Sorry for being so late to the party.

Wait.. I just realized Cumberland Blues was not played at all in the Winterland 73 run. They played it the next show in San Diego on the 14th. Forget about everything I wrote above.. Winterland 73 sucks and is over rated, plus it has no Cumberland. You believers drank too much of the kool aid and need a strong dose of reality, most importantly get off my grass hippies. And get some haircuts. Jeeze.. damned draft dodgers and rope smokers.

Edit: Took a quickie look at 11/15/87, the setlist is no slouch plus it's got a scarlet fire, which suits my mood today. Will at least give it a peek later.

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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 13:30

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So into this right now. The Winterland 73 box, the 30 Trips show, Dave's 5 , Denver Road Trips. Might not get to anything else this month and that's okay.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/15/2020 - 14:26

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Texas Christian University, I listened to that one last night.... They put some good tunes on this one!!! Favorite thing about the Road Trips series were those Bonus Discs!!! have a good night all. bob t

I just typed a post and it disappeared when I did reCRAPTCHA pictures (the quiz was boats, set up in a pattern that wouldn’t win tic-tac-toe), but before I hit save.

Must be an auto-delete software bug that happens with boats.

Anyway, the lost post was about how awesome 11-15-71 is!

Some of those were really good - 2/14/68, 6/16 and 6/18 74 and this one I have just listened to-5/23/69-accompanied by 5/24/69 are all top drawer. Incomplete shows, some of them, but great cds never the less. Weird numbering-this 69 one is Volume 4 No 1,and they were so tightly packed I needed a knife to get the cds out of the sleeve-but apart from that..
5/15/70 - another good one.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 04:25

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..you hit the best of the best Dave. Sixtus would likely provide a little cheer for the June 76 show (4.5? I think the last one), but your spot on for the best road trips in my humble opinion.

To my ears this is the period Jeffrey Norman perfected his craft.. there are a few where the sound was really starting to get good and seem, at least to me, to be a step above the Dick's Picks series.

I think most know I am a big fan of the Big Rock Pow Wow shows and 2/14/68 might be one of the best shows performed. Sacred grounds.. oh, and that bonus disc from the 8-track recordings from the PNW in the winter of '68. Holy sweet drops of liquid batman. Wowwow stuff.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 06:22

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Some kind of energy vortex around the date 11/15.
Both 11/15/71 & 11/15/72 are crazy good, and intense.
Listen to the Dark Star > El Paso > Dark Star on 11/15/71 & the PITB on 11/15/72 back to back.
It's heady & shreddy!

Worth the trip!

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 08:23

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I've really been enjoying the '72 and '73 stuff. '73 Winterland is one of my top 3 releases. Love that one.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 10:03

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The 73 run has been great. Can't get enough of it. More to come.

Decided to mix it up and go with 6/14/76 today. This box is so good.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 16:31

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Wichita 11/17/72 or Pauley Pavilion 11/17/73......... tomorrow anniversary shows. Both insanely good and I like them both just as much.. Trading Places quote by the way.... Bob t

I'd vote Wichita. It's one of those shows with cursed listens for me.. every time I put it on a lit firecracker lands in my lap or a car drives through the living room window. ..but I know I will like if the universe will just give me one good listen.

Or both. Pauley has gotten my undivided attention before.. Love that show.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 18:43

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Wichita

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 19:53

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Let's do them both. I know I will need two days however to get through both of these fantastic shows.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 11/16/2020 - 20:04

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....Los Angeles......photo finish though. Me & My Uncle, Here Comes Sunshine opener tipped the scale.
I Voted.

I’ll start with 72 and then follow up with 73...not sure I’ll get it all in today, but that’s ok...like money in the bank!
Was going to finally try and get jiggy with PNW 73, like Jim with Wichita, haven’t had the right cosmic alignment with that box yet. Side affect of obtaining it whilst trying to cope with major life issues that year.
Going to try and build a farmhouse bed this week so I’ll need many hours of top notch tunage!
Onward!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Tue, 11/17/2020 - 13:36

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Getting ramped up for this one.

Totally hitting the spot!

I started 11-17-73 in the car this morning and got several songs into it today.

Got home and started up 11-17-72.......
Worked like a charm......

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 11/17/2020 - 19:15

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.....BT Wind is winding down in Vegas.
Grate show.

Thoroughly enjoyed Wichita last night, am onto the bonus material and fully plan on plowing into Albuquerque, Dave's Picks 26 and Los Angeles, Dave's Picks 5 later today.

The show was a tight little bundle of fun. I think subconsciously this show was always in the shadow of the Europe 72 box. Around and Around is the only song they did not play on that tour. Still, tight, explosive at times.. a good show that I finally got a listen to after all these years.

Years ago when I first visited Tuscon, I grabbed one of my tapes w/ a Jack Straw (the opener I think) and plugged it in hoping to get that line as I approached. It probably wasn't exact, but about half a minute from the city limits, at high volume, a much younger and smarter JimInMD heard the line Half a mile from Tucson, By the morning light. I couldn't resist. What a great song.

Wow, this late year '72 is ringing my bell.
Good to see all you all jumping on that train throughout the day.
BIG Other One yesterday with all kindsa tasty stuff around it and after it.
Boy Oh Boy!

Think I'm gonna have to keep this party rolling down the track...
Next stop 11/18/72, woot woot, all aboard!

BTW: Just wrapping up Tom Davis's book, Thirty-Nine Years of Short Term Memory Loss, read the Hepburn heights chapter last night. You all read that one?
WALSTIB

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 11/18/2020 - 06:58

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I can squeeze that in. A hot one and one of my favorite all time PITB's. Holy fractal meltdowns batman..

It appears we are on a roll. I think BobT kicked all this off a week or two ago. The wheel is turning..

They released the usable/good parts as part of record store day and later as a CD. That's what I am using.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 11/18/2020 - 11:26

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Dooaah.
Did manage to background listen the 72 yesterday. Overall impression was how fast it seemed for the era?
And of course that awesome other one raised it’s beautiful ugly head above the noise din in my brain and made quite an impression! If I ever finally get to what I was gonna do today, work in the garage, I’ll prolly fire up 11/17/73 and/or some of that PNW. So as the mad hatter would say “I’m late”...

If that Playing In The Band from 11/18 doesn't get you playing air guitar, not sure what will.
Awesome!

Been spending some time bouncing between the 11/15 & 11/18 versions and just going places.
Throwing in The Other One from 11/17 to shake things up.
I see a playlist brewing.

Gotta go back for more, Dark Star this time > 11/19/72 is gonna get a spin.
FWIW, it's pretty safe to say that if you saw the Grateful Dead in November between '67-73 you got your mind blown.
At least from what I'm hearing. Damn!
(I like the '65 & '66 we got too, but I'm a head.)

Alright, gonna finish this TIFTOO > Main Ten 30 DOTD treat and hit up 11/19 later on down the line.

Even now, November is a good Month for Dead.

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Submitted by wave-that-flag on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 10:23

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Hofheinz—very nice. Great Box of Rain, Tomorrow is Forever, tasty Dark Star. Great show to spend time with!

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 12:20

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I am in!!!! I know it will never happen because its not there but how cool would a 72 Texas Box be!!! 5 shows 4 cities!!! Come back to the vault please 11/19/72!!!! Bob t

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 15:30

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First time listening to 11/19/72. Bird Song 72 bliss. Dark Star with completely unique jam elements, into proto 73 weather report suite into Mississippi 1/2 Step. Was great to hear.
“Everybody polka!”
Final Apollo (17) mission to the moon lift off 12/7/72, a couple weeks later.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 11/19/2020 - 19:55

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Hello all. I have really enjoyed our 72& 73 run. I know there is also the Denver anniversary show also from 11/20/73... Set II of 11/20/78 is the most unique second set of that year.... Jam>Drums>Jam>Jack-A-Roe.. Playin>Shakedown Street>If I had the World to Give>Playing>Around... Last World to Give, first Jack-A-Roe Since June 77 Winterland...
From what I have read, Mr. Weir was getting sick, and didn't come out until Playin, and supposedly left again until Playin Reprise... Some audience patches here and there for the Jam..... but I really really like the second set. Thanks
everyone.... Bob t

I want to check that show out tomorrow Bob t. Thanks for the pick. I will recommend 11/21/73 RT4. 3 for Saturday.

Yes, the 72/73 week has been fun. So much great music. We definitely need more fall 72. Is it two releases so far, Dick's 36 and Dave's 11. Bear did a great job on these recordings.

I have never listened to Dave's 5 so close to Winterland 73 before. To my ears, Pauly Pavilion sounds a tick better than Winterland 73. Not sure why. So much great music, we are lucky.

Unrelated, I would love to see them give us some sort of December release, not going to happen, but, I think people would love to have another release at the end of each year.

Stay well folks.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 04:51

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Right on dvikes. The Dave's Picks 36 new car smell is beginning fade. We need a new release. A sweet one-off like To Terrapin was, something off the radar and released as a single CD that comes as a complete surprise.

There are some uneven parts on my source for 11/20/78 (The Miller) and some patches, but it settles into a decent sound for most of the show. Plus it's got a '78 Peggy-O.

Keep the picks coming all, we are on a roll.. Us mere mortals keeping up as best we can, although I am beginning to get a bit worried about Brewer.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 11/20/2020 - 06:19

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Wow 11/19/72 is a stunner.
Metaphorically speaking, it was fun to see so many of your smiling faces at the show!

Top notch Playing In The Bands happening all month. This one is killer diller, and like Strider mentioned that Bird Song definitely takes flight. Great Box and the list goes on and that's only Set 1.

But surprise surprise surprise (as they say in Mayberry) the cherry on top is.... wait for it:
Dark Star > Weather Report Suite Prelude (infant) > Half-Step

1 word - Phil!!!
Phil just crushes on this, best Phil Bass solo here.

Can't get enough of this November '72 run. It is top notch GD for sure. And agree with Bob T def release worthy stuff on 11/19.. Bob T enlighten me, the reels aren't in the Vault for this show? I think the SBDs are Gan's reel transfers? Doesn't appear that there's anything to patch those reel flips though. So thank goodness we have these transfers, cause they're tasty.

11/15, 17, 18 & 19 just crush! I had to go and listen to 11/12 to see how the run started, but the recording issues definitely hide what appears to be another barn burner so far. I can't remember much about 11/14 & 11/22 and we checked out the tasty bits of 11/13 & 11/26 so that leaves 11/24 unmentioned... I know this about that, the Playing In The Band is a 5 star crusher. So maybe we can jump back in this time machine around 11/24 and fly around the ceiling of Dallas Memorial Auditorium together and check out that party!

Alright, I could go on and on, as I'm want to do, but I'll move along.

Got a little extra time today cause I got the 30 DOTD so quick, on first guess ;)

And that brings us to.. one of my Favorite shows:
11/20/78
Love this Set 2, it's unique, it's strange, it's jammy, and it's great.
All the things I like about this band.
I did not know that story about Bob that's cool insight, def have been curious what was going on at begin of Set 2, but whatever was happening, we benefitted with a fun voyage through wonderland.

This is a cool time of GD to explore, I dig late '78 and early '79, have always been a big fan of NYE '78 and it's epicness. So like any good fiend I went crawling all around the outskirts of that to discover what else was laying around the perimeter. The net spread wider when I realized there were those 2 early '79 Dark Stars lurking around there, and eventually bagged myself a whopper at the Cleveland Music Hall '78.

Hold on to your hats.. and let's get this show started!

Good Stuff.