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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • 1stshow70878
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    Yes! Thanks Betty!

    The story confused me a bit as I knew only part of the Betty tapes story. So this million dollar guy must have gotten one of the lots from that auction. I can just see Rob and Dick up all night listening to crusty, moldy reel to reels in Petaluma. Rob was genius to DAT them even though the guy forbade it.
    Found my Rockin' The Rhein bonus disc (burner) and It's possible I've only listened to it once. What was I thinkin'?!? Rolling now starting with a Playin', Sunshine Daydream, and is that Caution starting? Cool.
    Thanks again DV and Doc and cheers!

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    Firstshow. Betty

    Firstshow, I believe she left the band in the early eighties after a relationship with Brent that went bad. She fell on rough times and had some of her recordings and Rex's recordings in a storage locker. She could no longer afford the rent and the locker was sold off to three different parties. I thought it was actually in 1986 before Jerry's coma. Anyway, she informed the band about her situation and the music in the locker. They did not act. At the time, I don't think they saw the value.

    I believe Dave has written about the returned reels in the Summer 78 Box and a couple of Dave's Picks.
    Also, there are a couple of good articles out there on the Betty Boards and ABCD LLC and their quest to return the reels to the band.
    I believe Dave's #21 was the first release from the returned reels and the 78 Box was the first box set from the returned reels.

    Oh, and wasn't that your first show?

    Edit. The write up from Dave on the reels was included in the GSTL Box, not the July 78 Box.

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    Just read the rob eaton story

    about how these tapes came back. ( Dead Essays 3-26-72 from deadessays dot blogspot) Very interesting and a tidbit of copyright law that allowed him to get them back where they belonged. The guy who had them wanted a million dollars and the office basically told him to eff himself. He owned the physical tapes but not the music on them. So Dick's 30 and Dave's 14 + bonus disc it is. (and bonus disc for Rockin' The Rhein if I have it) Thanks Doc.
    Cheers

    Edit: so now I want to find out how/why the Bettys came to auction in 1986 in various lots. Was she gone by then? Why wouldn't she have gotten these back to the band? And interesting to hear a good portion of this lot was JGB and Saunders and some Jerry and Howard Wales too.

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    If you fell down yesterday, stand up today…….

    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Academy Of Music March 26 1972

    Yes, I know this was briefly discussed recently, but I compose these things well in advance, so here we are……

    Back in the day, in the crazy daze of tape trading, there were no commonly circulating soundboards of this run yet. It was rumored that they weren’t recorded, there was a flood in the vault, perhaps the building had been struck by lightning. Our audience recordings---much like the Port Chester 71 run----varied from borderline listenable to truly wretched. We dreamed of better quality………

    Well, apparently, maybe they had been there after all, well guarded, well protected, top secret material. The official releases started in 2003----can you believe it’s been nearly twenty years already?---and were a revelation. While perhaps not up to the creamy scorching brilliance of the E72 tour, the entire AOM run is excellent in it’s own way, looser perhaps, but all worthy!

    I always wondered what exactly was the AOM run? Open, paid rehearsals? A tune-up for the European tour? A week long musical party to pay for their fun across the pond?

    The March 26 show was released in 2015, and while appearing “standard on paper” does have a good mix of grease, jamming, and rock and roll. What more could one expect of the Dead at that time? Absolutely worthy of a revisit!!

    The past is the beginning of the beginning and all that is and has been is but the twilight of the dawn……

    Rock on!

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    Nothing leads so straight to futility as literary ambitions without systematic knowledge……

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    Thoughts Part I - Not sure if i ever listened to Set I, but Set II caught my attention many years ago. In part because of the obvious set list weirdness (thumbing through Deadbase) and as part of that set list weirdness the first Jack-a-Roe after the initial handful in Spring '77 (previous 6/7/77) (Jack-a-Roe can be my Cumberland) - its the only one in '78, before being brought back in rotation final month and a half of Godchaux era from 1/7 to 2/17/79. So, as Oro mentions, the word from Healy to a head was that Bob was "sick as a dog" (see IA), so not on stage beginning Set II but, trooper that he is, does make it back. Sounds like Jerry was going to open set with Shakedown but given circumstances slowly leans into what could easily be a jam out of Playing. Pretty freaking cool.

    [Edit] - Thoughts Part 2 - What a unique and amazing Set II. Total "Wow". As Inspector Clue notes, despite an eyewitness account, Bobby is back on stage for Jack-a-Roe and rest of set. The intro and outro to World to Give are otherworldly haunting and gorgeous. In that way they remind me of the atmosphere of Days Between. I think Jerry struggles on some high end vocals, maybe that's why the song didn't last. On the outro Bob's not so much playing slide but making whale calls and it sounds fantastic and beautiful. Tough to have the board cut during the Playing reprise because that Reprise is a beauty but being in the audience from there on out its clear that its a big old party and the Around and Around is a full on swinging-from-the chandeliers closer. Maybe, just maybe, the end of Set II was in fact recorded at the board, we can only hope. Would love to have Set II released.

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    Many people discovered Chuck Berry through listening to The Dead. The Stones served the same function in England.

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    Wanted to hear that third IIHTWTG so I went to the Bertrando/Sacks that starts at the post-Supplication Jam which without it's connection was fairly hard to guess but it sounds like Jerry was just noodling and trying to get to Playin' already. Then Drums into more pre-Playin' then shuffles right into a good Jack-a-roe. Playin' starts for real and abruptly shifts to a bouncy and funky Shakedown and has the crowd clapping along in time. Slow shift to the IIHTWTG with an almost silent (confused or maybe just respectful?) crowd. Fairly different from the debut which was as-written-clean (was this ever on a studio album?) including Bob adding some slide that turns into whale song (Jim, the gift that keeps on giving, lol) while Jerry fans the ending. Tough song to sing with lots of chord changes. Maybe that's why it was dropped? Then Playin' reprise with Bob trying to go elsewhere, but settles nicely before the slam into Around & A.
    Glad I got to hear this and thanks to Oro. Will try that 11-21-78 on your recommendation.
    Cheers
    Edit: Duh, of course! IIHTWTG was on the Shakedown album. There's a ut-oob of the Cleveland IIHTWTG with good sound but no video. Lots of interesting comments there. Lots of love for this song. One guy suggests this was a tough one to sing as it stretched Jerry's vocal range a bit. Same guy has a great detailed logical argument for why they dropped Cosmic Charlie, well reasoned. Another poster said this was their wedding song - cool! Another said it was a dedication from her hubby who has passed on. And a strange number of people said they liked/loved Bob's slide on this. No accounting for taste I guess. Oh and one said Bob had issues at start of second set which may explain some of that weirdness with the "Jams". (as Oro has already documented in his review a few posts back)
    Doc, you know what happens when the going gets weird. If not see Hunter Thompson.

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    Miller 95660, it’s an SB, but it has flaws and several patches. I didn’t mess with the others…
    11/21/78: went with Carpenter SB, recording overall better than 11/20, still has some patches.
    11/21 is a hot show! Only hiccup I recall is Black Pete…hell did they ever play bad in Ra cha cha?
    78 nuts will want to hear 11/21 and at least the Playin Sandwich from 11/20!

    December 73. What a month!
    Not sure about 1985 1st show. With no net, Deadbase etc, all we were focused on was trying to get to as many shows as practical, and hopefully later getting tapes of those shows. Never dreamed of the riches that have been mined since!
    Years later when I did start to consider these things, besides shows we were at it was all about those magic last ten shows of 73, featuring just the guys.

    3/24/71: I like 1971, but sorry, just did like 96% of 71 last year so not ready for rehash yet. I will say I really enjoyed this show though.
    That JBG off of Skullfuck was the lightning bolt that changed me from interested, to whoa, I have got to see these guys!
    It was April 78 and I was at my buddies. We listened to Skullfuck a lot sans not much else live Dead to listen to. Live Dead was still probably too weird for us to fully engage. Steal Your Money was cool, but it was all about S&R.
    Being a Hendrix freak in HS, I was really into JBG, and I’d heard this version many times, but for whatever reason something happened that day and JBG just blew me away. I made him replay it over and over and from then on the scaled tipped and I started becoming more into the Dead then the other stuff.
    The final straw was finally getting to see them in January. The rest as they say is history.

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    I wasn't able to find a good source for this show. What source did you listen to guys?

    December 73. Another fine month Jim.

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    3/18/71 is a good show - least the first cd moves nicely through it's changes, and the song list and jams to come look promising.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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here's my pick for the day, a day late, well, it is still 11-28 for about 8 mins.
I was at this show and we were tripping balls, Jerry's voice is pure butter during this Florida run and so is his exceptional playing. enjoy

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Thanks man.. planing a big stack of rough cut cherry for indoor trim in the bathroom. Perfect wood making music for a mostly sunny Sunday.

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I'm hip to some 1980 Dead, another trip back to Florida sounds fun.

That Slipknot! on 5/22/77 just kills me. So good, it's imprinted on my psyche. And hearing the "Inspiration" just come shining out of the fog, that's the stuff.

DV - I'd love some rereleases of the incomplete shows, but I think that type of reengineering effort is not top of mind. Rather we continue to go Further!

As a want to be archivist, I really appreciate Dave's approach of not releasing stuff unless they can do it right, which wouldn't of been possible without Dick's trailblazing efforts to begin releasing this material in the first place. Alas the 5/22/77 release was a gear in the cog to get where we are now. The new transfer has the reel flip in Eyes patched now. Aww.. the Dead Head freak nature of obsessing about minutia, I scoffed at it once and now it's a part of me.

Also, that Pink Floyd Dark Side doc was great! Thanks for the tip, I enjoyed that.

Bob T - Putting those Blue Suede Shoes back on and hitting the road again! December '73?
Feels like you'd have to kick it off with 11/30 for sure. Maybe I can get catch a ride and get some tickets at the shows? Boston could be Sold Out though from the looks of things... hmmm.

Ever heard the 11/28/73 Jerry & Mickey dated material from the Palace of Fine Arts? I was just looking at December '73 run and noticed it. Seastones performances with Phil & Ned, I might have to listen to that again. I think it circulates with Tarot outtakes. Some weird shit.

Okay now I'm ramblin'...
Lil surprised that the location I was looking for today on 30 DOTD wasn't listed. How can be?

Don't want to give away anything, but that should be corrected, but not if it means I got it wrong cause I chose the only other option. If you haven't given the track a spin, do! It's a freakin' epic version and it was off my radar.

Good stuff.

PS - UNKLE SAM - Got any 11/28/80 tripping stories?

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Hey now everyone, as requested, here is a rundown on the 11-28-80 Lakeland Civic Center show.
It was a Friday, the day after Thanksgiving and the boys had just done a show down in Pembroke Pines that we did not travel to, but we heard it was a scorcher. Having had Thrusday off for Thanksgiving I nor any of our party had to work that day and we left around noon for the hour and a half drive to the Center. We were looking forward to this show as we had traveled up to Atlanta back in April of this year to see the boys at the Fox Theatre, but that's another story.
It was a beautiful day, about 75 and sunny with a few clouds and a bit of a breeze. The traffic was constant but not heavy on the way west to Lakeland from Orlando.
My parents at the time lived in Lakeland and I knew the town pretty good so we slid into the Center from the back way down 33 off of I-4, which was a great way to get to the Civic Center, knida like the back door.
As we arrived we could see that it was not too crowded, there were heads here and there throwing frisbees and listening to music, but all in all for the early afternoon, not to crowded, yet. It did fill up later on but we liked to get to shows early so we could get good seats, and we had fine seats up off the floor on Jerry's side about half way back. I always brought my binoculars with us so we could get some good looks at the boys and the equipment.
Of course we came loaded for bear and had the usual paraphernalia with us, some good smoke, a wine sack full of sangria and tequila mixed the way the Spanish did it and of course some doses, Purple or Red dragons, can't remember the color now, but they were good.
As we enter the Arena about 6 or so we walked right in which was a bit strange because Lakeland had become the place where there was always a big heat presence at shows, especially Grateful Dead shows and when we didn't see but a couple cops, we were relieved and walked right in, no pat down or searches. {Turns out they were all inside dressed like heads, undercover).
The lights went down and we dropped the doses and they opened with Jack Straw which during the line we can share the women we can share the wine we broke out the wine sack that my buddy had smuggled into the place under his arm and slung over his shoulder and cover by his jean jacket. Sangria and tequila is quite a potent mix but it is also quite sweet, so down it went in no time. After Jack Straw came just one of the best Peggy-O's ever, Jerry's voice was pure butter and his playing was top notch. Then into little red rooster where Bobby again fucked up his slide work and it took Jerry stepping in to help out to finish the song. Jerry could play some slide, unlike Bobby, who kind of just raked it over the strings. Then Tennessee Jed, which the crowd got into, most of them being from the south and they could relate to this song, once again Jerry in fine form, punching out the vocals with great pronunciation. A good Jed for sure. A killer Passenger followed, with Phil just up and down the neck like he was playing a lead guitar, awesome. Then came Deep Elem Blues, a favorite of mine and done electrically, which was rare and quite good, Bobby in good form for this one and the next one which was Looks Like Rain, again done very well and the set ends with a smoking Deal, with Jerry tearing it up, a big star beside that one and a great set ender like it always was.
By this time the doses had taken hold and we were wasted, laid back in our seats and just toe tapping and smiling, good times for sure, the lights came up and we headed to the drink line and I went to the long bathroom line, standing there tripping was to say the least, weird, a lot of folks were off too, but some were screaming for doses and looked like they weren't having such a good time, I shied away from the rabble rousers and did what I came for and walked among the heads during intermission. That was fun, found a cool tee shirt that had a skull smoking a joint and "on the road again" under the skull, a cool shirt with the only color being the red dot on the end of the joint.
Back to my seat and the light went down and Jerry starts with this killer wah wah that leads into Feel like a Stranger, an excellent version, check it out if you have a copy of the show from the 30 trips box, it is trippy and different and very cool. The song ends the crowd goes crazy and then Jerry starts off To Lay me Down and the crown goes quiet, you could hear a pin drop as Jerry pours out his heart and soul into the song and his guitar work is out of this world. An awesome version of another tune that they had not done for quite a while. After that deafening applause comes Let it Grow into a fantastic Terrapin Station, wow, just...wow. The song continues into Drums and Mickey and Billy tear it up, lots of folks get up and head out but I loved the drums>space part of the show and I sat there mesmerized as the beast with 8 arms rears it head and performs it magic. The space is short but it goes into Not Fade away with Brent holding down the keys with some sustain and with that the tune slow forms and then burst out on us like an exploding sun, "I'm gonna tell you how it's gonna be....." everyone's up and rocking now. A beautiful Black Peter follows and once again Jerry's voice is like butter, loved this year with Jerry being on so many times. Sugar Magnolia takes us home with a U.S. Blues encore to send us out dancing. A great show and the exit was fun as the moo's coming from the crowd as we piled out making me laugh hard. Still tripping we sat in the parking lot smoking joints until we thought we could drive, and we did, all the way back to Orlando with three mile smiles on our faces.

Wowsa, forgot how hot DPs 3 is! Not always a big 77 guy but this one and the Swing always hit me like Britney!
I’m sure I’m in the minority, but sometimes I kinda like the chopped Dicks (ooooopps, stepped in it that time lol)
Honestly, as the years continue I’m increasingly editing my picks down to the more meat & pertators. I guess it’s preferable to have the whole show and then edit to taste? But I don’t mind them so much as long as they are in order or keep the show flow somewhat. I never liked the cut ups ala burrows versions with only certain songs from different nights in weird trac orders...but yeah, I need to hear some of that again! Great Pick!

11/28/80 sounds good! I’ve been lingering on DaP 8 to compare that matrix with the newDaves after all the hoopla about it. It does sound good but so far I think 8 is a tad too dry while 36 is a tad too wet. But that’s me as I prefer a good matrix! So since I’m in that zone, and I haven’t spent much time with 11/28, hell I’ve still not listened to probably half of boxilla, Doooaaahh! So,
Onward!

Oh, Sammy, thanks for sharing!

Doodle oh (Arnold Horeshack) so looking for opions here, if we could only get a “smaller” Fall 72 box, what part would you choose now that several of you have taken that Pepsi challenge? Lazy minds wanna know!

UNKLE SAM - Great story! I'm impressed with the details you recall. Did you take notes on that one? Curious if you're able to conjure all those memories or if you documented some of them to help keep them so fresh and vivid. So far you're spot on. That Jack Straw, Peggy-O are signaling a fun time ahead. Thanks for sharing man, I really enjoyed reading that. And Jerry just rips right in to his Rooster solo :)

This show is sounding sweet today. I really like the next 2 nights too and am thinking I need to re-visit 11/26 as well.
Nice pick!

Fun.

OB: I’d love to see if it’s possible to release 11/19, 22, 24, they’re all worthy, don’t think 11/26 is in Vault. That being said they all suffer from some unfortunate reel flips and not a lot, if any, patch options. Based on what has already been released I don’t see much happening on this front. But… the 3 shows mentioned are must haves for any worthy GD collection. And the boots we’ve got are good.

I need to go back and do all of October ’72 to really give an opinion on that month. 10/18 in particular is on my re-listen list. So.. basically blah blah blah, I love November ’72!

One show from this time period I’d really like to see released is 9/16/72 and I know it’s on Dave’s radar. The PITB is one of my all time faves and the Dark Star > Brokedown is essential listening. Great great show.

Too Much! Really, too much!

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Had a nice listen today. I like the song selection and the performance.

Funny.. as I was working and listening and the Feel Like a Stranger kicked off the second set, I had this thought about Stranger as a second set opener.. when the lights go down and the second set starts.. if you dosed, that's when it really starts kicking in and what a great song this is when that moment overtakes you.

I wondered how many people in the crowd had that feeling that night. ... then I read pretty much the same situation in Sam's recount of the show. You Know It's Gonna Get Stranger, So Let's Get on with the Show....

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Jim-curiously I had exactly the experience you are describing when I saw the Dead in London 10/3/81. Unexpectedly, someone in the crowd I had never seen before offered me a dose just before the first set. We pass this way but once...
And Stranger kicked off the second set.

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We used to have fun trying to guess when they’d start, rarely on time, so we could drop an hour before. That way its just coming on as the show starts, the first disorienting scary peak was around when they and the sound would start to really mesh near the peak at the end of the first, and the second bigger peak would be at start of second, with third and usually last big wave around space, Perhaps one more for the big finish.
Usually, as long as you guessed the start right, the rest would all line up..

EDIT: ooopps, and 11/28/80 was fine, need more time with that one too. So many great shows I barely know : (

My first show (4/19/82) had a stranger second set opener.

I had never seen the dead before, got tickets last minute and didn't really have a chance to check them out. I listened to Terrapin Station once in the car and knew of the studio versions of UJB and Casey Jones. I am not sure what I was expecting, perhaps aged hippies sitting on stools playing acoustic guitars.. As we were walking to our seats someone in a dark corner under a stairwell caught our attention so by timing it, for us that night meant 25 min before the first song give or take?? At the opening moments of the second set it kicked into high gear and a part of me wished I had taken one instead of two.

Good times, I had no idea what I was in store for.

At the suggestion of a few here I re-watched the making of Dark Side of the Moon last night while planning the next phase of my home project. Gilmour said something that took to me, something to the effect that he wished he could have listened to that album start to finish for the first time without knowing it. That sums up my first dead show, I saw a quite good show from start to finish fully on board, eyes swirling in the back of my head without any idea really what they were about. And that was it for me, they still fascinate me.. I thoroughly enjoyed Lakeland.

What's in store today? Hey.. did we do Gainesville yet, it's kissing cousin?

If you didn’t know any songs at your first show, at least you knew “The Raven”.
It’s grate that you got to see that for your first.
Unless you thought that poetry during Space was normal and you were disappointed at your second show when there wasn’t any poetry.

...” At the opening moments of the second set it kicked into high gear and a part of me wished I had taken one instead of two.” lol. How many times have we heard that one 😀 Did you hear the “it’s gonna get stranger line” and if so...?
I was a late bloomer, didn’t trip till my tenth show.

GAINSVILLE ! I’m down, I think I’ve only heard that once?

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They did play Terrapin Station that night, so I sort of knew at least one song. What a fun night..

Less than a year later we were already lying to our parents about where we were and taking their family cars when the band was playing within say a 3 - 5 hour radius. Thank god nothing ever went wrong.. That phone call to the rents would have sucked, "what do you mean the car got towed, what state are in again!!.. I forget at what age I started telling them the truth, probably after I had my own car.

Of course this pales in comparison to HendrixFreak hitchhiking with no food and little money all over the East Coast at about the same age.. I guess these were simpler times and our parents made the fundamental mistake of trusting us.

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It's amusing that Dave Lemieux completely spaces on Gainesville in the Lakeland 30 Trip liner notes. Can you say 'What about Gainesville'?

I think Bob t called for 12/1/73 for tomorrow. Looks like there is a good Miller to check out.

I am in on this one.

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It's nice that the sound check is included on this one. I think this show came up on these boards a year or so ago, I still have it one of these devices. In fact, I think I reworked all three shows from this run because the Dicks Picks was not a complete show.

So I have these nice and tidy in my electronic stash, always a good thing.

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It's nice that the sound check is included on this one. I think this show came up on these boards a year or so ago, I still have it one of these devices. In fact, I think I reworked all three shows from this run because the Dicks Picks was not a complete show.

So I have these nice and tidy in my electronic stash, always a good thing.

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seem to file things away that you would think you would forget. No, I did not remember some of that story, I listen to the show and then I checked the set list and then I called a couple of the guys who were with us that nite. Unfortunately, 2 of the 4 are no longer with us but the other two did remember some things I had totally forgotten. It was fun revisiting that show and the set list and the music itself. I did remember the t shirt and the set break part and I did remember the Jack Straw opener with the wine sack full of sangria and tequila, hard to forget that buzz.
I didn't start taking notes on shows until about 85, at least that is all I can find now, on faded paper and kinda sloppily jotted down with crude pictures on those early ones.
I agree, what about Gainesville? That was also a fantastic show, we were there too as we had such a blast at Lakeland we just stayed up and drove up to Gainesville the following day (those dragons were kinda speedy). Didn't have tickets even though I knew some of the frat boys who requested the dead to play their homecoming dance. We stayed in the lot the entire show, but there were a few others out there (around 100 or so that I saw) and the student union had set up speakers in the back of the student union hall and we got to hear the music for free, it was a fine show and one that I would love to have gotten into, but after staying up for 36 -48 hours, I was wasted by the end of it all and crashed hard in the backseat of that old 63 buick 88. It was like sleeping on your couch in your living room, it was that comfortable. Hey Dave, free the Gainesville tapes, what do you say mate?

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Just on Mexicali now. This few months of shows - November and December '73 might well be the high point of the whole endeavor. They sound so relaxed and dialed into each other. Everyone bubbles up to have their say and then goes back to the supporting role.

Jerry's voice is so good. Bobby has that nice warm sound as someone mentioned on one of these threads recently. He hasn't yet transitioned away from the big warm 335 sound to that trebely cutting tone (which is all his own) . And he's playing constantly with great fills and voicings. Starting in 74 and certainly after the break he was picking his spots a lot more.

Keith is playing tastefully. Billy could be turned up a bit (i'm listening to the Charlie Miller) but the recording is good. Phil is still singing a bunch of harmony.

So good.

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Another from that great tour I haven’t gotten to yet! Nice.
That jam almost sounds like “express yourself”? Fun stuff...
Perfect for working, nice pick!

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Good to see you made through the storm.

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Ditto what dvikes said. It sucks to lose power in the winter, been there done that.

We are getting quite the storm here now..

Had fun with 12/1. The PITB>UJB>PITB was probably the highlight, but China>Rider through the WRS/Let it Grow was outstanding. Fun little show, love that late 73 vibe. We are gonna have to do 12/18 on it's bday.

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Boston today. I may include Denver 12/2/71. Recently listened to Tempe, AZ. from 11/25/73. Then Tucson April 1969. 1969 Dark Star was powerful while the full moon rose a couple evenings ago.
Stay warm.

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I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out!
Would love to hear from anyone there about what all was going on?
Folks obviously hangin where they shouldn’t, but when the band has to plead for the perpetrators to leave cause the nice guys in blue here really don’t want to have to hurt ya etc, and they still don’t leave lol. I think they even threatened to stop playing and they still wouldn’t leave! Hee-hee ya gotta love massholes (and I mean that as a term of endearment. My fathers people and several friends are from there)
So recently we had an outright brawl with Billy getting the third man in penalty, and now this wonderful sideshow...who knew! Just gotta poke around!
Fun show, tempted to pick highlights from Dick’s 14, but strider mentioning 69 somehow Jedi mastered me toward Dicks 16 I believe from 11/8/69....
Ole Ladies working from home so I’ll have to see what will piss her off less ; )

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Dig it!
12/2 double down in Boston.
12/2/71 sounds fun Strider & that 11/25/73 PITB is all killer no filler. Might have to dust that off too.

Dug into 12/1/73 yesterday and there's really nothing wrong with that show. Love late '73 Phil harmonies, especially on Half-Step. Had to pop on 11/30 right after and just can't get enough of that WRS > Dark Star Jam > Eyes.
Good Stuff

BTW we must've conjured up some 9/16/72 magic! New SBD material showed up in circulation. I wonder how much of that show DL has in the Vault? Seems like we've got all but first 4 1/2 songs from SBD in circulation now.
Dark Star > Brokedown trans is patched now. It's such a Golden Age for Dead fiends. Hot Dog!

Where do I start... tough choices.
It's good to be a head.

EDIT - OB yeah totally was digging the banter, Jerry is freaking funny. "We gotta go through this lame trip together" 123 Lame Out!
UNKLE SAM - Nice work man, called up some old pals and everything. I dig the extra effort and the recall. Much appreciated. November '80 is some good stuff.

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I am putting all my cds on a external HD this what I have completed so far. if anyone lives near Farmingdale Long Island I am willing to give them away. no mailing just hand them off. All SBD maybe a matrix or 2

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Anyone know what Bob was referring to 47 years ago today b4 the set II opener of Wharf Rat!!!! Thanks for the concern also with the power outage!! Fortunately we were on the warm side!! 60 degrees at midnight Monday!! Bob t

Man, just did quick highlight trip through DP 14. I’d say both of those disc 2s can stand with almost any disc 2/3? released! Perhaps some of those 72s would nudge em out but not by much...
As much as some of the 69 trips are awesome in their own way, and the consistent machine like greatness of 77, and the late era glory of summer 89- 90, they just had so much versatility in fall 73. Sure you still have the big Dark Stars, Other Ones, Playin’s and last of the cool Pig Jams in 72, but 73 has WRS, Eyes, Here Comes Sunshine, Half Steps, even bigger, weirder jazzy space jams, AND the 72 stuff, sans Pen of course...
Tech/gear wise I think they hit a sweet spot too. Wont rehash about all that we recently discussed, but generally I think it’s a step up from 72 with the pre mini wall etc, but not the full on monster that for good or sometimes ill soon followed in 74.

Perhaps a nice distraction whilst we wait....
What tour, overall, do you think was the greatest. I mean a whole tour, not a subset or say the retirement shows etc, but the best whole tour?

Up next is fine DP 16. Listened a lot when I first picked this up a couple years ago, but have neglected since. Another top dog fo shoor!

Oh, and GAINSVILLE was perhaps better the second time I finally listened to it the other day!
Unkle Sammy scores again!

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I love the deadhead archives app, it has a "this day in history" and every Saturday at work we listen to a different show.

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chefdarkstar - Far Out, I didn't realize there was an archive app.

Speaking of this Day in Dead History. 1981-12-03 rips in my opinion!
And you've got the DaP release of 1979-12-03.
I'm feeling '81 if anyone wants a tasty Scarlet > Fire > Estimated > He's Gone > D> S> Spanish Jam > Truckin' > Black Peter blast out.

In regards to the 1973 December tour, it's a well deserved day off today. After listening to 11/30 & 12/2, I kinda get why I haven't spent a lot of time on 12/1. Talk about standing in the shadow of giants. I agree with OB 11/30 & 12/2, wowzers! The X factor happening on those shows.

Also, I'm not sure how I feel about the tracking listing on 12/2. In my highly biased eyes, that's a 37:48 minute Playing In The Band with a Mind Left Body themed jam included at the end. But the way it's tracked it's just a measly 12:09 minute Playin' into a 15:39 minute Jam. Hmmm... again, not sure how I feel about that. :)

Alright, thanks for the tip on the app and good to see you here Chefdarkstar!

If anybody wants to anniversary trip 12/3/81 would be fun.

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Cool beans. I know 12/5 smokes so interesting to see about this one.
Oh, forgot, yeah, 12/1 is ok, but I can see why it didn’t get used...the Playin space is cool, but like elsewhere they just sorta phizzle. I liked it, but it definitely doesn’t stand up to 11/30, 12/2, or much of the tour really.
Glad I finally checked it out!

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I'm in.. I've been hankerin' for a hot Scarlet Fire. I had a small family matter to attend to in and around Baltimore, in and out.. so a big crappy drive. 5/26/72 got me through it. Time to change things up with a hot 81 side street and I have things to do tonight that lend themselves well to listening while working. The pieces of the universe are fitting together nicely today.

Edit: Enjoying this immensely. Nice find, decent recording for the period. Nice and clean.. reminds me a bit of the Salt Palace - Salt Lake City show from a few months earlier... which is also worth checking out. I sort of prefer the Salt Palace, but parts of that show seem to be missing the soundboards. What is there is pretty sweet though.

Still, thanks for turning me on to this show. Quite enjoyable. 1981. They were playing some more than one song segments from the Nassau '81 Dicks Picks on SiriusXM the last few days. 81 must be in the air this week. Have fun all..

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Baby Blue *
* Jerry is so feeling it on 12/3/81, throughout the show, but big time on this Baby Blue, best '80s version? Best version ever? Not sure about any of that, but a great version for sure. Gans used it on Postcards.

What'd you all think of the show?

The set 2 is a fave, and it's one of those shows where it's possibly even hotter post drums. Not sure. Bob & his whistle, I need to get a date range in my head of when he used that damn thing. He's got it in English Town '77. Anyhooo... glad you all checked it out. Bands on fire in December '81. 12/3 is one of those shows that will make you collect the whole year to see how many more are like that. And there's quite a few that are of that ilk, but it's special.

Good stuff.

12/4/73 set list looks like an incomplete show for '73. Every time I look at it I think what's missing? Johnny B. Goode opener. 17 song show. Pretty sure they were playing 17 songs in Set 1 in the summer.

9 songs released on Winterland '73 bonus CD. (rare lil collectible these days?)

I wonder how tour is going for Bob T and if he was able to get from Boston to Cincinnati? I got separated from him at the Boston show, but he was tripping for sure!

This day in GD history:
1969 - *First Black Peter & Uncle John's Band (w Vocals) - * on Tape (probably firsts, Fillmore West home turf, but yeah)
1971 - First night of legendary Felt Forum 4 night Run
1988 - Neil Young joins Jerry & Bob for Wang Dang Doodle at Bridge School Benefit. Bob & Jer play FOTD, Throwing Stones & Ripple.

And there you have it folks, morning update as I procrastinate.

PS - Jam of the Week has the sweet 6/14/84 Shakedown > Playing > Fantasy today.. never get tired of listening to that one. Happy Friday All!

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Today's show would be a good one to skip over!!! From what i have read the band was really late. The Bonus CD from the Winterland 73 box has the best parts. (I did listen to this whole show this morning!) Catch you all in Cleveland on the 6th!!! I also listened to the Jam of the Week!! Good call. Have a good weekend everyone, rest up for that 46 minute Dark Star heading out way on 12/6/73!!!! Try to find me in CLeveland, I will be wearing a Buddy Bell jersey!! Bob t

Good show GOGD. 81, another year to pick through. So much great music. That whistle and how about the sex change line in this version of Truckin. Never heard that before. Solid Black Peter.

How does 6/17/91 strike you all? From the 48 multi track masters.

The ole Pointed Head is gonna be on Reddit this am at 10:30 pst doing an AMA jsyk -
https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldead/comments/k50kxw/hello_friends_i_a…

Ah, late start explains a lot. I'll try and still make Cincinnati, but will definitely see you in Denver. I'll be wearing my rainbow beanie with a spinner on top ;)

Giants Stadium Multi tracks sound pretty tasty any day.

Love me some Multi Track!

I think I can make room for all that GOGD.

Be Well All.

Oh good call, and I know this will sound worse than I mean it (sorry) but isn’t this the “pick of the day” versus on this day in Dead history, like, don’t they already have that? Just a thought....perhaps getting a little too predictable, or maybe it’s just me? Sorry...
So I was actually thinking I really need some Dead/video experience after digging the Friday night Shakedowns this summer, but I couldn’t decide what, so bing!!! I come here and DV does it again!
So I’m going to save that for tonight on the big screen and yes, luxuriate in that ridiculous Blu-ray hi-res audio!
First, it sounds like I need to circle round to 12/3/81 again, such hyperbole, oy! Lol
Unfortunately I didn’t get to finish post drums and really didn’t get a good listen, but what I did was prime 81.
So there’s that, the 12/4/73 highlight disc which I like, and 12/6/73 coming up, plus I haven’t gotten fully with DaP 36 either, lol, so poof, just like that there’s probably all the dead I’ll be able to get too this weekend!
So much Dead, so little time...especially cause mamas getting a little burnt on the dead, so I’ve had to schedule more stealth listens lol...

If anyone has a few minutes to kill in between full shows.. check out at least the partial of this one:

https://archive.org/details/gd1981-08-12.sbd.130235.MrBill.flac16/gd198…

The soundboard doesn't kick in until 38 seconds into Friend of the Devil.. but check out the Scarlet>Fire and Morning Dew. Well anything after Jack-A-Roe. A really clean soundboard for '81 and the show is pretty good. While we are on an 81 groove, might as well stretch it out a bit.

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Agree with you Oroborous, this is not this day in Dead history.

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Did you guys know that Joe Friday never actually said Just The Facts Ma'am?

That was actually Dan Aykroyd on the reboot.

However, time has meshed the two... that is if you even know who Joe Friday is or Dragnet for that matter.

Anyhow... I was just saying, cause I happened to notice them there facts on this date.

I won't do it again, honest I won't.

(Don't hold me to that, I might do it again ;)

But never fear POD is not in jeopardy. Though sadly Alex Trebek has left the building.

Remember TV?!?!
Good Stuff or I guess the only stuff. Probably wouldn't of loved it so much if I'd had the internet!

PS - Ken Babbs listens to Metallica. (alright, I'll stop ;)

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that's some good s@it man, when the first set ends with Bertha, you know somethings up. Second set is ridiculously good with a killer He's Gone and that beautiful Baby Blue encore. nuff said, I'm in

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If I could just get this damn lawyer to call I could probably sneak both 81s in before the better half gets home and still bliss out on that 91 tonight! LoL, what the hell is wrong with us! 😁

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OB: Man if we knew that... well shit!

Ken Babbs says the following and I quote:
The most important thing is to be happy and do the things that make you happy.

So, here we are my friend.

The Salt Pally... '81 is a ripping year.

So much Dead!!
I'm starting to sweat. I gotta get out of here.

UNKLE - You are correct sir!

I've got a recent watch of my cousin vinny under my belt. I can defend you.

There, that should free you up to get some plaster rattling time in before Mrs. Oroborous gets home.

There are a couple more cuts on the Salt Palace I had forgotten about.. a good portion of Estimated is patched, and it's a ripping version too.. plus the first couple minutes of Eyes. The Morning Dew is exceptional. Really USDA Grade A stuff.

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I love all your “ramblings” and I mean that in a good way! I look forward to your enlightening us! It’s like old school reading the paper or having morning coffee with my friends!
I’ve kinda never been this immersed in the Dead until the last few years here. Gear and sound geek, always, went to as many shows as I reasonably could, have read everything I could and have a decent library, but I’ve never been quite at the level of devotion and subsequent deep dives as some of you. never really been a “computer” person either, so way behind on that tack that you guys bring such an interesting wealth of great information, especially the silly and out there stuff! So please, keep it coming.
Between all y’all’s information, and great old timers like Strider, BTK, Bolo (where art though?) etc making us drool with stories from golden years, where else can you get such friendly, informative and interesting kicks! THANKS
My little, very little mind you, critique is only that perhaps we’ve just gotten a little predictable with our picks? I mean most people know many of these “big” shows inside out, so to me at least the Beauty of this forum for instance, is when Slow Dog turns us onto that hot Glassberg 81, or we hit that 12/1 73 for good or ill, or DHB or DV calls out a official release like this 91 that we may not usual think of......most of all, to be surprised, and turned on to new and often off the beaten path stuff; Billy getting in to fights, weird hippie girls putting sweaters on Jerry...let’s face it, after alll these years, isn’t it most fun to get turned on to new and interesting things?
Hey the go to stuff is always just a click away, but to me the thing that makes this special is getting turned on to the unknown!
I guess you could argue that can work both ways as evident by y’all’s recent fall 72 trip as it came about partly because of the calendar...of course I think HF has us all thinking more and more about some kind of “fall 72 box” and being that could cover several months, which probably isn’t practical (sorry HF lol) so of course a fuller understanding of this time period helps enlighten such discussions, like what most likely that box would look like etc?
Sorry, too much coffee and nervous energy, I wish this gal would call already...

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Hhhhmmmmm I do remember watching as a lad, but I guess I always thought he said that?
Of course we’ve established the condition of my memory or yuck yuck, lack there of many moons ago!
“Berry interesting, but stooopid” speaking of 60s TV, remember that blast from the same past? Hee-hee!
Oh @#$& speaking of old TV shows, after seeing BTKs cool post on another thread showing the Mnts of the Moon from Playboy after dark I’ve gotta watch that whole episode some time! If it’s on YouTube I’ll have to remember to try and find, perhaps pre game for the “big shoooo” lol another 60s TV reference 😉

EDIT: yeah Jim I heard a bout uuussseee 2 yooots ??

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Some full episodes of that turned up on Archive recently, might start there as I hadn't see the full show before.

It's a trip!

Learning lots. Prior to this year, I was completely focused on collecting the "tapes". But at the end of last year I finished up '94 and was done (you're never done, but you know what I mean?), and that dove tailed into this year being supremely strange and psychedelic and getting the opportunity to be able to listen to all this wonderful stuff and hang out with you all, so it's been really cool to explore different facets of this jewel and do some deep dives on the "facts" behind all these great shows. I'm loving it!

This year I've definitely turned a corner in my GD habits, for good or ill... we will see :)

BTW you all are great, keep up the good work!