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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Double Post!

  • JimInMD
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    I don't think Don recorded it.. but they were stuck with these multi-track master reels with major leakage between input sources that created timing sync interference between the instruments and vocals. I think there is much mention of this on the liner notes, what he figured out how to do is estimate the timing differences and edit out the interference using technologic wizardry.

    Before this, the band considered the by then ancient tapes unusable, to my ears now, they sound magnificent.

    I will dig up the liner notes and either create a new post or edit this one hopefully later today. Up to my elbows in alligators right now doing something else far less interesting.....

    And Jeff and GFar, completely agree - many thanks.

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    Hey Gary, Good points and great perspective. Don Pearson's obituary, published by the Audio Engineering Society, may add some detail about Dr. Don's relationship with the Grateful Dead and the ultra matrix mystery:
    https://www.aes.org/aeshc/jaes.obit/JAES_V54_3_PG245.pdf Yup, lots of fascinating and unexpected rabbit holes to explore.
    The technicalities of sound engineering are way beyond my pay grade, but it appears to me that Dave's 36 derives from soundboard and audience recordings made by Dan Healy and Don Pearson that were fed/"baked" together on tape in real time in the 'Ultra Box' during the show. In 2020 this limited Jeffrey Norman's options during remastering.
    Regardless of how off-base I may be on its source tapes, I love the heightened sense of the crowd that embellishes this release. For me the integral aud gives a cool alternative to the 'clean' soundboard recordings we all love. Not better or worse, just a different way of hearing the music in context – wouldn't mind getting one of these every now and then, especially when 'pure' soundboards don't exist.

  • Vguy72
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    I found something!...

    https://www.etsy.com/shop/Afamilywelcome?ref=search_shop_redirect
    ....figured I'd share, because sharing is caring.

  • Gary Farseer
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    With you Jim

    Let's storm the vault as a Valkyrie with flight of the Valkyries blaring.

    I did not realize that 2 from the vault was Mr. Peason's work, but I now doubt it one bit. As far as my earlier post, I guess Mr. Pearson may have in deed been on the band's payroll, until 1978 when he started Ultrasound. It would make sense that he and John Meyer would have toured with the early tours. Probably not primal Dead but shortly thereafter. I don't know, but at least it provides another avenue, with unlimited rabbit holes, for us heads to research. I doubt any band has as much underbelly to be discovered as Grateful Dead has.

    Hope your copy shows up soon, mine arrived on 10/29. Hope everyone gets theirs soon! This was originally going to be an edit of first post, but then saw your post.

    G

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    I am in an un-Dead phase. an "anything but the GD" phase.

    I have tried palate cleansing, no GD for a few days.

    Nothing.

    I will live. but I miss that GD vibe.

    It will probably come back eventually. "take a vacation, fall out for a while"

    oh, the trials we face in life, eh?

  • JimInMD
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    Let's not forget, he brought us Two From the Vault. He was somewhat of a sound genius.

    I probably misused the term Ultra Matrix in a post a couple weeks ago, and I don't have my physical copy of 36 yet so am not reading whatever it is they put there (it's currently in Jupiter and beyond the infinite, hopefully it will make it home soon)..

    I still think this was culled from the source cassette master which was a mix of soundboard and two stereo audience mics by Dan. Many of the 87 soundboards have a similar sound ..but I could be wrong. It's a decent release which has gotten a couple good listens by now. Which begs the comment.. we need more GD.. when do we get our next show? We need a new release now! (let's get together people and storm the vault, who's with me?) Ark Ark

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    Not to beat a Dead horse, but I also did a little more research about this recording and the now famous Don Pearson. I am very happy that I wrote in my last post "Mr. Pearson" as he is/was not just a taper, he is a sound reinforcement giant. Mr. Pearson is the co-founder of Ultrasound, a company he helped start in 1978. Years back we were discussing Dick's Pick #5, Oakland Auditorium/Kaiser, and were discussing the sound system. I am a little fuzzy on this as I cannot find the documentation that at the time was on the tip of my fingers. Anyway, on December 26, 1979, the organization brought out a new P.A. system. My understanding is this was the first Ultrasound P.A. system that the fellas used. It was a marriage made in heaven as it was the Ultrasound backbone of course powered primarily by McIntosh amps with an exhaust system developed (and constantly evolving) by John and Helen Meyer at Meyer Sound. (Now I realize that documentation is on a very old computer that I still have but dont access hardly at all, guess it is time to fire it up, so to say.)

    I doubt Mr. Pearson was ever on Grateful Dead's payroll, although maybe??? My reasoning is thus, as Grateful Dead and now D&C were/are the driving force in sound reinforcement for the whole industry, I would imagine that Mr. Pearson saw a lot of shows prior to starting Ultrasound. After starting Ultrasound, he would be working for Ultrasound to physically hear the outcome of his hard work. Since the December 26, 1979 show through today the organization has used the marriage of Meyer Sound and Ultrasound. Meyer being the hardcore engineers in reinforcement and Ultrasound being the developer of the various P.A. systems, meaning Ultra does the many P.A. configurations for various sizes of venues. Ultrasound would be the one looking at the venues and developing the P.A. for the tour involved (and of course, many uncountable bands/tours/venues).

    I will try to fire up the old computer to find an article about Meyer/Ultra that was written in a trade magazine, but here is a partial read.

    https://meyersound.com/news/fare-thee-well/

    And anyway, here is another read on the marriage between these two organizations.

    http://www.dozin.com/ultrasound/main.html

    Any way, that is enough for this a.m. Although I do have more to write on the two organizations that are direct offshoots of Grateful Dead and how it relates to this release. Hopefully, time will allow me to do this later today.

    Smiles to all, and be very careful out there, it is a deadly situation for all.

    G

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    I caught the one the month before on the East Coast. What a terrific cover and a terrific song. This one only seemed to get better with age.

    She Belongs to Me, another special Dylan cover. This one's acoustic and has Bob and Jerry swapping lyrics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8obCnsw4c

    Have a good Tuesday all.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dp3pBB6PUgw. I saw the Dead play this on 4/22/86 at the Berkeley Community Theatre, 2nd song of the night ,1st song was Box of Rain. that was cool.

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I was about 50 feet from that...but like most I didn't know about it until the next day...

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Elvis did not appropriate black music, he actually did just what you described as what the Dead did, I'll quote you:
"because they fuse together both styles of Americana music, black heritage and white heritage to make something truly unique." Both the Dead and Elvis borrowed elements of Americana to create their unique blend of music; talking about pre-1956 Elvis, all his Sun sides are unique.
You could argue that the appropriation label would apply more to early 60s Brit bands, who would basically copy vocal phrasings of black singers and note for note solos(Pigpen did the same). Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion, as long as the original artists got more recognition and royalties.
Then there's the Yardbirds appropriating Tiny Bradshaws's Train Kept A Rollin' without crediting him; that's more like theft though.
Anyway, both Jazz and Blues were influenced by western music and western instrumentation since the 1800s. That's a huge subject!

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Perhaps, but don't be so quick to judge until you've tasted his turkey mole enchiladas. Maybe worthy of pardon power.

(pulled off some Turkey Enchiladas Verdes a few days ago, they were a big hit as noted by their immediate consumption, the JimInMD house thanks you for the inspiration)

That's how I understand things regarding Elvis.

I agree that the blues covers by Brit bands weren't too hot in the first half of the 60s. One of the great benefits was that they introduced the likes of me to the real McCoy. The Stones -Keith Richards in particular - regularly pointed out where they got their inspiration from in interviews. And there is that famous clip from about 1965 when they introduce Howlin' Wolf on the T.V. programme Shindig!

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Johnny Burnette credited Tiny Bradshaw as writer, so no theft there; the Yardbirds credited themselves when they changed the lyrics and renamed the song Stroll On.
To make this Jerry relevant: both Johnny Burnette and his brother Dorsey were successful songwriters later on, with Dorsey writing the Magnificent Sanctuary Band, covered nicely by JGB.

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...was pointed out to me this morning.

Did you see Bob Dylan sold his catalog for 300 million!?!

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LEDDED seems to be the most understanding about much of this. Talking is just that...conversation, but there's some borderline "white fragility" on this board, that is if you think that sociology theory is correct. :) Unless I'm misreading the tone wrong, some of y'all get way to sensitive over conversation. That's why I was saying the GD is a "melting pot" they didn't start it, they melded it all together into their own. Thinking is good and that's all I was mentioning stuff for. That's all well and good but if you ask different people about Elvis they would disagree. To each their own and I guess that's the big debate these days...some people think its a big deal and others not so much. Some people flip out when they see a greasy white upper middle class trustafarian with dreadlocks because its not his culture to claim. Others say chill out and let it ride. Depending on if you are white or black, your personal experiences, income, and social standing the opinions and beliefs you hold on are divided and held dearly. The black friends and people I've talked to in the past don't think too fondly of Elvis, some people say otherwise as he inspired some dance moves. Some feel that once again a white dude is getting major props and social credit for doing something done by others first...see exhibit A (plate stand not included)...https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f7/c1/7a/f7c17aa0fa52d82c1275383c193b79e…

Black musicians simply were not respected due to their social/cultural status and perceived economic viability for sales, therefore no one cared and no one gave them a chance. It is what it is, but don't deny it, life viewed from another's perspective its just as valid. The reality of the situation is what I'm curious about.

Not trying to piss any one off but there's a reason when you ask people about who their rock n roll gods are, the only black guy usually mentioned on that list is Hendrix. There's definitely something there to be discussed and it's reflective of our society as a whole. GD family and band members have always been more inclusive than their fans are, I've experienced that first hand over 30 years of shows. Though it did tick me off when Jerry went off on rap music during some interview in the 80s or something. That was some close mindedness I did not think I would see from him (maybe the persian made him grumpy that day), not to mention the subversiveness of the rap scene you thought he might get behind.

Nowadays there's rap acts that sample GD music and rhyme over it...so there's that. The best way I can help make the change I want in this country for my kids and their future is to ask people to think more about the hidden histories of our country and not the ones thrown up by companies looking to cash in. I know there is cross pollination and an ouroboros of destruction and recreation as humanity consumes itself and is reborn as society and cultural change. Some people think individuals are a nucleus of human ingenuity while generational geniuses often express that they "know nothing compared to what is possible to know" & "they can only see farther because they stand on the shoulders of giants." One thing I've come to appreciate in my searching for the sources of things, its all one big clusterfuck. It still doesn't stop me from thinking about it nor from trying to find the true source of inspiration. It's too heavy for most people because the tighter and more reassuring package to hold is the belief that Elvis invented rock n roll or is responsible for its popularity. People like simple answers so they find simple answers. It's way more exhausting to continually reinvent one's own ideas or interpretations but it pays off in the long run of life.

Jay Lane (yup from Ratdog) and a bunch of friends put this together...ya'll probably heard about it cause it was all over lots many summers ago at this point. They did a whole album...I think, but its not the easiest thing to come across. Not the most bang up thing ever recorded but it sure was neat to the younger fans...I remember, maybe.

Back to The River (Franklin's Tower sample)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK6x7R4KnHY

Box of Sunshine (Row Jimmy sample)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNdTCTDlCYk

Mine had the skin on.. the trick for Mole Verde is 30 min before cooking you toss them in a punch bowl of green kool aid and voila, verde fur. A nice parlor trick.

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I'm kinda thinking that #38 will be 9/16/72 with bonus 9/15.

sorry sub's thread seems to be locked or something.

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Direwulf-I think most people who listen to rock n' roll would also credit black performers such as Ike Turner, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Bo Diddley and Fats Domino as being foundational rock n roll performers who were contemporaneous with Elvis. It was a music that made as step towards breaking down racial barriers.

You still haven't said which black performers you have heard who sounded like Elvis Presley. The blues tracks he cut sounded nothing like the originals, that I have heard.

In the 60s, a lot of people would point out that some of the best records were made by black performers - and not just Jimi Hendrix. But they weren't necessarily rock n' roll records. I have over 30 cds of material recorded on Stax records alone-but not many of the tracks on them are what I would call rock n' roll-or rock of any sort. Same with Tamla Motown.

And when you consider all the classic jazz records made in the 1950s and 1960s-many more were made by black musicians than white, I would think. Everything by Miles Davis for a start.

1000s of great blues records too, by black artists throughout the 50s and 60s. Way too many to mention, but again, not just Jimi Hendrix.

To credit Elvis Presley and Sam Phillips with their innovative sound, and it surely was innovative, in no way diminishes the achievments of any of the above.

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I saw Big Mama Thorton play a couple of times and she was really cool, but I dig the version of Hound Dog that Elvis does way more. As far as Blue Moon of Kentucky goes, I like both versions equally, Bill Monroe's and Elvis's

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Billy the Kid- that must have been something, seeing Big Mama Thornton. That puts T.Rex in the shade.

Another great original and cover was Mystery Train. The original by Junior Parker is great, and the cover by Elvis, which is totally different, is also brilliant.

....and raise my glass to the latest GarciaLive release.
This will stay on my "currently playing" end table for awhile.
Birthday show for me. I turned 3, which is indeed a magic number.
I've been away entertaining my 3 granddaughters that recently visited.
We went to the Adventuredome at Circus Circus. No lines. Rides for daze. Oh yeah. And Lazer Tag.
I feel 3 years younger.

Exceptional. The clip of her at the train station was in the North West of England, not far from where I grew up. I think Muddy Waters and a fewe other blues performes were filmed at the same time and place.
Great the way she used to dress like my grandma but could rock out like Jimi Hendrix.

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Direwulf, you did misread the tone of my reply; my point was that Jazz, Blues and Country did not happen in a vacuum and had black and white influences(obviously, not in equal parts.) This has nothing do with "white fragility".
By the way, we forgot Ray Charles as a major rock and roll influence, thanks to his classic Atlantic sides.

Pretty cool Carlo.

Billy.. Will check out Garcia / Grisman at some point today.

Lots to do today, onward.....

Oh, and Senator, looking forward to getting my new Garcia Live hopefully today.. , but the USPS Gods have not been smiling on my lately. It's like the old Music Today warehouse has taken over the postal system. My packages seem to going all over the Eastern US, then sometimes back to distributions centers for a second or third time. It's almost like somebody reprogrammed the automated distribution vector software and added some infinite loops.

Or in the Words of Jerry Garcia, "It's really too weird here, it really is" If I can find one, a free dead sticker to the first person to name the show... if I can't find one (unlikely) I will have tried.

Oh, and Cousins/Direwulf.. a tip of the hat to Ray Charles. I saw him and Fats Domino with my father and brother at a New Orleans JazzFest 20 or so years ago (I dragged them out and paid for flights and hotels).. I know I have told this story here before, but it's cool enough for a redux.. my dad told tales of his life in the 50's. He was the youngest of 11, so bedrooms were often doubled up.. but he lived in the Western suburbs of Baltimore and used to prop up the window and hop out after dark and head down to what are referred to as the seedy sections of Baltimore and see black R&B/Blues acts including Charles and Domino, then get back before dawn and crawl through the window hoping nobody noticed. When I heard this I was floored.. gave me a little source of pride, respect and honor. Perhaps that's where I got it from....

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Did you catch her at the SF Blues Festival, 78 or so? That was a great day, biggest treat was seeing 40s R&B shouter Roy Brown. Free festival too, right in Golden Gate Park.

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Really enjoying Jerry and Merl’s playing from this 5/71 release. The Crosby-penned “The Wall Song” is awesome and much closer spiritually to the earlier PERRO, Crosby demo sessions for his ‘71 solo album. Of course, when the song was officially released with a much different tempo and sound on that first Crosby & Nash album in ‘72, Jerry, Phil and Bill all played on the track.

In any event, GarciaLive 15 smokes and is unlike the later JGB releases sonically. A bit of primal edge from the ‘60’s on this one perhaps. Enjoy the listen!

Dave—mission’ that second box release that usually gets me through this time of the year. 2020’s been a bitch. Let’s all get through this alive. Peace and good health to all Deadheads and loved ones.

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Hey Cousins, yeah, I saw her at the bandshell in Golden Gate Park at the S.F. Blues Festival. I also saw her at a Blues Festival on the U.C. Berkeley Campus, I believe in 1974, George Harmonica Smith and Sonny Terry & Brownie Magee were also on the bill. Boy, I sure miss those S.F. Blues Festivals, I went to a lot of them, they were a blast!

Estimated Prophet going into the commercial of the Baltimore Ravens game tonight. My time comin' any day.. don't worry about me no.

The times they are a changin'...

Edit: Got a Lost Sailor in the second half.

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Any cat that can hang with Jerry has got to be just aaaallll right . . .

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That list of Star Wars future projects instantly made me think of the Garcia Family Provisions merchandising model. 😬

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I hear they are bringing back Sean Connery as the new aged 00bi Wan Kenobi.

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Star Wars brand cannabis.
There’s already a Light Saber strain, although I don’t think that Disney is getting any royalties.

Millennium Falcon Sativa, it will make your mind go warp speed.

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There's got to be a good star wars weed strain joke here just waiting to be told. Here's hoping V guy has a few up his sleeve. My brain is wracked after a long week of work.

I did take this occasion to listen to 12-11-72. How nice would a 3-show '72 Winterland box set be, a la the '73 one?

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My Star Wars fandom well full hyperspace with those announcements. Well I won't guarantee that everything Lucasfilm produces will be great, i am still going to be checking them all out. I don't know if any of you watch the Mandalorian. If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend checking it out. I have been really enjoying that show and if even one or two of those new shows are at that level, I will be happy.

....what? Searching now.
Found it. I have twenty bucks.
Edit. I accidentally backed out of the stream and can't figure out how to get back in. Good for 48 hrs though. I'll figure it out.

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