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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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April 19, 2022 - 6:05pm

#2351

Gary Farseer

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Sawzaw

Ah the sounds of my earliest fun dentist. "You dont need no gas!"

All my stereo stuff is old, always fussy. Running all old Yamaha into JBL (plus svs). Trying to get stuff cleaned and parts replaced. When it is on, it is quite the stereo indeed. I have an old yamaha eq that I hooked up when Dave's first show was released. Goes into Pre amp, then to a yamaha mx-830. The MX-830 is powering 4 jbl g300's and 2 jbl LX 600's. Running 6 speakers means the amp is running at 550 watts at 2 ohms. It cooks. The speakers all have same tweeters and mid ranges. The 300s run 8" woofers and the 600s have 10 inch woofers. It is old but as you say "in budget." Smile.

edit:
Then the svs has a 550 watt continous, 850 watt peak sledge. The svs I picked up a few years back for $399. I had to have a sub with an internal crossover. So out of preamp to svs (rca cables), then back into the preamp, then to amp. Having old yamaha means older connection points. Modern amps control the crossover themself and pump sub out already crossed over. I happen to run my internal sub amp at a cutoff of 82 hz. George Lucas uses 80 hz crossover in his THX sound systems. So I am slightly above that. I did some sampling of the room using the preamp features.

G
April 19, 2022 - 3:31pm

#2352

JimInMD

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Do you have any '74 Dijon?

Neanderthal's use chain saws.. a sophisticated audiophile attacks their living rooms delicately with a sawzaw.

I'm totally jealous.. I am blasting with my 20 year old Denon, similar age speakers with no intents on upgrading anytime soon. Budgets be budgets..
April 19, 2022 - 1:11pm

#2353

Gary Farseer

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Yeah

Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

No 18's here. Of course not needed.

Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

G
April 19, 2022 - 12:24pm

#2354

Oroborous

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Ha

That’s what chain saws are for!

Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.
April 19, 2022 - 12:07pm

#2355

JimInMD

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I want what Phil's having...

Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.
April 19, 2022 - 11:21am

#2356

Gary Farseer

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Oro

thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

Hope all well your way!

G
April 19, 2022 - 10:10am

#2357

Oroborous

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Phil’s Rig

As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.
April 19, 2022 - 9:33am

#2358

Gary Farseer

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Fall Out from the Phil Zone

I listened to 1988-10-15. Once Friday, Second Saturday. Two different sources although both said the Ultramatrix board, the first was much muddier than the second. Best highlight was the deep garbled voices toward the end of drums. Really bizarre, and reminds me of garbled voices during latter Star Wars during broken transmissions, and reminds me of the fellas ties to Lucas, the lightgiver.

I was very disappointed in both versions as the show is missing a whole lot of data/music. What I mean by this is, I am wondering if there is fallout from the phil zone? I am positing that as the Phil Zone expanded, Healy lost control of the overall sound. If memory serves at some point it seems I remember maybe Phil using 18" woofers onstage. For sure he was using 15's (plus 12's and 10's). Now I loved my bit of time I spent in the Phil zone, but generally when I got up close, it was Jerry side. As Phil blasts his horn, this means Healy had to bring Phil down in the overall P.A. mix. In my humble opinion, I believe this led to the bad tape sound, lots of data/music missing. When I focus my ears, I can tell that much of the overall lower sound waves are missing or nonexistent. Even worse, the frequencies that are there are very muddled and indiscernible.

Now as a way to test my theory, I listened to 1988-03-27, Hampton. Another group of shows I saw in 1988. I did see 8 Dead shows there and fully know the quality of the sound that can be obtained within the mothership. (Also saw the shows that make up "Hampton Comes Alive..") When I listened to March 27, the sound is very good. However, although not as bad a St.Pete, there is again a large amount of data/music missing as well. The imaging is excellent but that is because the imaging comes from the higher frequencies. Bass frequencies are much more omni- directional, whereas high frequencies are unidirectional. (Want to press on these concepts furthur, later on. I want to go back to some discussions back in October regarding HDCD.) If my hypothesis is correct, then the tape anomalies concerning extremely muddled low frequencies will test out thru other 1988 shows. Had not heard or noticed this until this past weekend. So for St. Pete, it not only causes Phil to be muddled (deep booming bass with no clarity to individual notes played), it also means some muddleness from other players/instruments. I believe this may be the reason why 1988 recordings may all need matrix recording.

Just one man's opinion, would like to know what others thought.

Both Hampton and St. Pete were excellent shows when you factor other aspects than just the quality of the reproduced sound on tape. One reason I love the later shows is because the P.A. quality produces a much more full bodied, across frequencies, sound than do earlier performances. Early performances are fire from perfomance, latter shows have more depth and clarity in the frequency spectrum, hence DaP#40.

Ok enough for now.

G
April 19, 2022 - 9:23am

#2359

bob t

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Sandstone Amphitheatre 7/4/90

I was there.. It was so hot at the start of the show... Close to 100... Really enjoyed the long scarlet>fire popping up in the 4th slot.... Drove straight to Louisville after the show... why oh why.
April 19, 2022 - 8:53am

#2360

Gary Farseer

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Congrats Jim!!!

Knew we were getting close. Still love the Raven show. I am a huge '82 fan.

This was the same time as my first drop, April 1982, what a life changing event, as I know 4/19 was for you.

First 2 drops were Orange Sunshine and Purple Haze. Not too bad for first 2. Man, there is a lot to write about with those 2.

Thanks Jim for being such a solid rock of posting here, and again, Congrats.

G

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Show of the Day

This is definitely the best thread going on the site. Good music and good vibes. Thanks for all the great stuff here, especially from The Good Ole Grateful Dead.

@ Slow Dog

Couldn't agree more, brother!

Firing up Curtis Hall now! I think I'll cheat and just start with Set II :)

Peace

I Third That

..adding in all other contributors here as well.

Strider, deadvikes, otis, oroborous, Cone Kid and I'm sure I forgot acouple......

"This is the quiet part folks"

Well it's the last stop on my December 73 virtual tour!! Hanging out at the Curtis Hixon with Good Ole and That's Otis!!! The tour was great only hiccup was Cincinnati!!! The shows in North Carolina and Atlanta were awesome. I always wonder what the 6 day break was for. Have a good weekend everyone.. Bob t

Shit

...and BobT for sure.. I'm losing my mind.

Simple, effective, real, and a good deal.

“This is the best that can be done as far as getting them willing to release this stuff. Listen, if this doesn’t work, I seriously wonder if anything will ever come out of their vaults.” - Dick Latvala 1993/4

December 19th -
Today is an historic date in the annals of GD history.
47 years ago the GD played their final show of the year and it smokes.
But possibly bigger than that, 27 years ago that same show was picked to be the first GD live recording released as part of the now legendary Dick's Picks series.

If you're a collector (which includes all of us here) then it's important to realize what a game changer this release was for all of us. Literally, it is the moment when all of our collections would level up. Over the next 27 years all GD collections would grow exponentially with live two-track releases from the band. Official Bootlegs! The legendary Vault, the untouchable Vault, would open up for us commoners. Back then it was a moment that most of us dreamed about, but few were sure it would ever really happen. It definitely wasn't guaranteed. And Dick's Picks Volume 1 started it all. Finally a fan was releasing Grateful Dead music with the band's blessing.
(Yes there was the From The Vault Series, but that's a different story all together for another time).

And Dick, well he was probably the only person who could've gotten this all started. Honestly I feel certain that without Dick's persistence, passion and enthusiasm, we wouldn't have what we have today. That's just how this world works. Sometimes it takes the only person who could possibly get something done, and puts them in exactly the right place to do just that. I like it when that happens.

I remember when this release came out. We were stoked. Of course eventually there was the complaining about it not being the complete show, but what none of us realized at the time (and some still don't realize) was how big of a coup this was. And that this was the jumping off point. We could not imagine in 1993 the plethora of Grateful Dead official releases we would eventually get. And for that, we have Dick to thank.

So, pick a release out of your collection today, and put it on. And raise a toast..
LATVALA!!

With that all being said, I know which show I'm gonna pick :)
Final night on tour, and it feels like it's gonna be a smoker! Last night's show was phenomenal!!
The WRS > Dark Star > Drums > Eyes > Wharf Rat > Sug is a thing of beauty. Listen to the jam in WRS it's an air guitar frenzy, especially where it's patched during the tape flip. During Dark Star it sounds like the band gets into an I Want To Tell You style jam that Bob, Phil, Keith & Jerry are all playing off of (I wonder if they listened to that earlier in the day) they run that theme for awhile in the jam. And Uncle John's Band encores, why did that stop?!?! What a show. Man you should've seen Bob T he was bug-eyed!! We all were, it was soooo amazing. Get that show and put it on right now and listen to what I'm talking about. It could easily have been the first release.

But as Dick would go on to say: "The only reason 12/19/73 was the choice, was because of the Here Comes Sunshine. Jesus, what a monster!”

Alright, it's time to "Remember Your Hippie Training folks, Be Cool!" - Jerry 12/19/73
I want to thank all of you that participate on this forum and contribute your opinions and thoughts and ears to this wonderful music. It's been a real joy to pick shows with friends and give them a spin and talk about them. In this time when we can't be together, this is the next best thing. And it wouldn't happen without you.

High fives all around, thanks for touring through the vault, buying the ticket and taking the ride!

Good Stuff.
LATVALA!

EDIT - I second Bob T, this has been a great tour. In regard to the 6 day lay off, supposedly the Band went back home to SF and chilled, then headed to Florida to play two shows and finish the year. Only the GOGD '73 would do that!

EDIT2 - Dick Latvala quotes from Amazing interview from Dupree's Diamond News Volume 27. Get it, read it, love it. Wonderful stuff! Also big props to John Dwork & crew for all they've done for Heads everywhere. Love you all.

LATVALA!!!!

Thanks Dick for kicking open the Vault doors.

That HCSS is a monster. Good call Dick.

I’m not calling for a reissue of the DP series, but I am calling for a Box containing 12-18,19,-73 in all their Plangentized/Normanized glory.

12/73

here here..

Dicks Volume One....

....I remember when it came out. I prayed that it would be a sign of things to come. Now, I'm running out of shelf space. Prayers do work!
Best Here Comes Sunshine? Hard to argue.
Good test for disc rot. I haven't spun this in quite some time. Let's do this!
My step-daughter, her daughter and her daughter are visiting for the weekend. My step-daughter loves the Dead with zero influence from me. She agrees on this HCS.

@VGUY72

Beware the insect fear jam.
It might freak the uninitiated out ;)

The HCS def rules it.

6-30-74

Playing now, my first listen ever, as far are I know.
Pretty cool Playing>UJB>Playing to close set 1.
I even listened to all of Phil and Ned.
Now sliding into Eyes.

Listening to Miller.96275.

I’ll get to the DP1 anniversary tonight once the beer starts pouring.

Advent of CDs, One From the Vault, DiP1

After CDs appeared, there was a lot of talk of releasing shows from the vault due to the longer time format (72+ minutes). It took a few years but they finally pulled it off. Too bad the first CD medium wasn't BluRay like.. they hold 50 gigs = 70 CDs = 32 shows, I think the length of CDs was originally formulated to fit Beethoven's 9th Symphony. Can you imagine a world where they formulated CDs to hold the Bickershaw Festival 5/7/72?

Dicks Picks Volume One. Disc Two....

He's Gone->
Truckin'->
Nobody's Fault But Mine->
Jamming->
The Other One->
More Jamming->
Stella Blue->
Around Squared.
.
I know you all know the set list. I just like to -> songs.

Dick's Picks 1

Thank you GOGD for calling attention to this pivotal moment in Dead recorded-and-released history for us obsessives. Disc 1 spinning right now. Ordered from the original Almanac announcement.

i want to give a shout out to a key player in those early days in getting that ball rolling. Peter McQuaid was the head of Grateful Dead Merchandising at the time and he was instrumental in getting Dick Latvala's dream made reality. Read this Cloudsurfing "outake" for that history: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/archives/9064. Deepest thanks, Peter.

TIAADWD “outtake”

That's rich! I enjoyed that, thanks BlueCrow.

I wonder how many more outtakes are out there... hmmm.

It just so happens I'm reading TIAADWD currently.
Amazing book! Highly recommended.
Super well done, and love this format. Great work Gans & Blair!
Add Gans, Blair & Kidd to the Peter McQuaid props list for being extra instrumental in getting these releases going.
And extra to Kidd for recording this puppy.

Great Stuff. Thanks for sharing BC, and check out that DDN article with Dick if you haven't already.

Still got that Almanac notification?

still have that Almanac?

given that i don't throw much of anything like that away, answer is probably yes, somewhere in the "vault"

Almanac 1993-94

There's probably some good reading in them there old almanacs.

I'd like to see the Dick's Picks Volume 1 ad.

Nothing turning up on the quick interweb search.

Next time you're dusting in there, look around for it ;)

oh, its a true vault, and its a mess

on my long list GOGD

btw - 6/6/92 Set II, is on youtube in proshot on voodoonola channel. somewhere in my "vault" is a VHS i have of this show. received ca. 1997 in this tiny back water desert town, told at the time not to copy for anybody!! because it wasn't supposed to circulate. Friend of a friend had gotten it from DL after a tour of the vault. I held my part of the bargain - never did copy it.

Thanks for Sharing Bluecrow

Thanks for sharing that link Bluecrow, that is great stuff.

None of the stuff past OFTV and TFTV was release quality. Look at where we are now? Unreal and all gravy in my opinion.

Keep it rolling!

that first Dick's Picks

back in those days my primary connection to the larger GD world, outside of actually seeing a show or drinking a few beers on a Sunday night (GD night) at the Blue Moon Tavern, was the Grateful Dead Hour. looking through the GDHour logs, Show 267 (11/1/93 - https://www.gdhour.com/logs.php?year=1993) is centered on DiP 1 and includes a Gans interview with Mr. Latvala about the selection process. I can't find a working link to the actual show audio but here is a link to a transcript of that interview: https://www.gdhour.com/transcripts/latvala.931005.html. a good read. I was a regular listener but can't be sure i heard this episode when it originally broadcast.

The late '73 period for me,

I'm discovering more and more, had some just magnificent shows.
- Dick Latvala 10/5/93

Well, I couldn't agree more Dick.

What a great tour the Dead played 11/30 - 12/19/73. It's worth hearing all of it!
I sure had a good trip on the virtual road with Bob T, that was some good times.

Thanks BlueCrow for the DL GDHour Transcript. It's more complete than what was aired originally. (I believe the complete interview as well as others were aired as 3 part tribute to Dick shortly after he passed on GD Hour No. 571-573) You can Listen here:
https://www.dead.net/features/gd-radio-hour/grateful-dead-hour-no-571
https://www.dead.net/features/gd-radio-hour/grateful-dead-hour-no-572
https://www.dead.net/features/gd-radio-hour/grateful-dead-hour-no-573
Thanks Gans & Dead.net!

Like you, at the time of the first Dick's Picks release my main source of quality tapes was the GDHour.
I'd actually gotten out of collecting at the time of this release but this brought me back in for awhile.

Dick, was a hardcore tape collector.
Here's some excerpts from the transcript that I really think tell the story:
By late '67, I was a Grateful Dead fan, or freak. There was no question.

I didn't realize that live tapes existed until around 1974.
So late '74 I discovered that actual tapes existed, I wanted tapes of every show, so that's what I pursued.

That's all I did from '74 through the present time, really, is collect and listen to Grateful Dead tapes.
- Dick Latvala 10/5/93

I love that.

Also Dick says the following about the Series -
This is really an experiment, this first one, to see how it does, because no one has a clue as to how much interest there is out there to get at this material. This is only mail order, you see. It's not going to be in record stores. So this will be like a little private club, so to speak, you know, that is willing to go that extra mile for the really good stuff.
- Dick Latvala 10/5/93

I guess we're in the club?!?!

Alright, 12/19/73 was a great pick Dick and it worked. Thanks man for all you did for us.
LATVALA!!!!

Well, I guess I'll try and not pick any 1972 & 1973 for awhile ;)
Thanks to all that journeyed through so many shows from those eras.

Now, I kinda want to spin the old 10/12/68 and figure out why that hasn't been released yet.

Or if there's a show you all are itching to hear let's hear about it.

BlueCrow - Blue Moon Tavern, have we talked about this? I used to go to the Portland Blue Moon all the time in the late '90s.

Latvala

Thanks GOGD for the links to the Latvala interviews!

Blue Moon was the one in Seattle.

Going the extra mile for the really good stuff

What a grate club to be a part of!

Playing 12-19-73 right now.
Sound quality was amazing compared to the tapes I had in the early 90’s.
But now as I listen to this show the sound quality is nothing like the PNW Box.
So, I reiterate my desire to have 12-18,19-73, along with other shows from the tour, Plangentized and Normanized and included in a Nov/Dec 73 Box.

1993 Interview Dick L.

Cool stuff guys, thanks for posting DL.

I wonder what Dick would have thought of the E72 Box Set??

This has all come a long way.

Jumping shows

I’ve heard 12-19 so many times that I’m moving to something I’ve never heard before.
11-1-73 set2.sbd.goodbear.80714

Yesterday I processed a bunch more torrent files and got 29 GB of ALAC playlists loaded on my music player.
Included in the batch was

11-1-73 .80714
11-20-73 .76616
11-23-73 .112801
11-25-73 .113007

So I’ll get a mini tour of late 73.
Also processed shows from 67,68,70,71,88,89,90,95.
Some good variety.
I’ve got 2 weeks off work and am going to do a lot of jobs around the house. The music player is loaded with tunes and ready to go.

@ICECRMCNKD

Dude 12/19/73 was so Yesterday!

That PITB from Feyline Field is mighty fine.

Sounds like a nice plan my man.

BTW 10/12/68 is still super sick, in case anyone was worried it'd changed!

I’m a little slow GOGD

But now I have a lot of unheard shows on my music player.
It’s going to be a good 2 weeks.
I use winter as a time to work on my music collection since I’m stuck inside and it gets dark by 5 pm.

No work tomorrow, think I’ll start off with something barrel aged.
I’ve got ribs slow cooking in the oven.

Crap

Can't believe I snoozed on 12/18.

@JIMINMD

Do it today man. It's worthy.

Ha..

Not gonna happen today, I can barely move and it's late.

I am digging the hell out of select cuts from the PNW box. I did the unthinkable.. and cut up full shows to the best parts. So much fun.. It seems likely to go down as my snow set. We haven't seen winters here since.. well a decade, and we finally have some decent snow. Love Winter fun.

By Wednesday I will be partially human again. I will shoot for that.

Rainbow Theatre '81

Anybody wanna check out 10/2/81 today?
New miller S2 SBD showed up and SIRMick remaster of S1 as well.

Killer '81 show.

Ultimately this is a rhetorical question, I should say.. I'm listening to 10/2/81 upgrade and it sounds awesome and you all should too, cuz it's killer and has a smoking Set List and a Playin' > Shakedown > Bertha > Playin'
But you know... it goes both ways.

And it sounds like you made the right choice Jim, enjoy the snow!
12/18 will be there for you when you're ready.

10/2/81

Looks interesting GOGD. I will check it out. Thanks for the pick.

10-2-81

excellent, that entire 81 European run is fantastic, there are some great shows in this October run and if you haven't heard them, check them out, those London shows are just so groovy. Daverock, didn't you make a couple of these shows? Got any memories to share?
Peace all you groovy cats and chicks on this thread, a tip O the hat and a toast to each and every one of you, tis the season for Peace, Love, Dead. Stay home and check out this 81 overseas tour, you will have a great time.

10.2.81....

....had me at Cumberland.

'81 Europe Stories

I second Unkle Sam's request for Europe '81 stories.

Bob Minkin has some good ones in his book, especially about the Oops shows in Amsterdam.

But would love to hear more from anybody here that attended.

Yeah UNK, I dig this tour and this upgrade is sounding good. I believe the last "tape" I had of this show had intentional cuts for personalization and that was the only thing in circulation, so def stoked to move away from those.

The return to Playing In The Band is worth admission alone.

Blair writes up some good reviews on this tour and the tapes, which are notoriously not perfect here -
https://www.dead.net/features/blair-jackson/blair-s-golden-road-blog-fo…

I still remember having a audio VHS of 10/3/81 and spending hours trying to transfer it to tape, but was having all kinds of tracking issues with my VHS player and getting pissed, shortly after that the guys I was trading with switched to Dat and CD and that was a whole 'nother ball game, I think I quit collecting for awhile after that. It was so much work back then and honestly shit just wasn't ready.

Glad to be back in the game in the digital age!

Good Stuff.

PS - VGUY I was gonna say there's a Cumberland!
BTW listen to that GSET on 12/18/73 bro, thought of you. Phil is dropping some huge bombs at the end it's sick!!

Rainbow Theatre '81

I guess I was due for the full meal deal, gonna have to listen to the whole run from London.

Great shows here and Jerry's voice and playing are sounding sweet in 1981.

If you dug 10/2 than 10/3/81 is well worth a listen!

Set 1 is pretty typical with an upbeat Jed and nice Bird Song plus a China > Rider to close the set.

But... You GOTTA hear this Stranger! It's pretty special. The other thing I really love about this show is the intro into NFA from Space. Listen to Brent at about 0:54 seconds into NFA, It sounds like a John Carpenter movie soundtrack. Made me sit up and listen for real. I wish it would've gone on longer but those 10 seconds alone are Definitely worth the trip.

So having enjoyed both of those shows, I know what I need to do.
I have to hear the next two.
I can't remember much about 10/4 and the 10/6 High Time slays me, and so it's time folks.
I mean how many Blues For Allah Jams can you put into your near future?

Again it's a rhetorical question. The answer not many at all.

PS - I can't really hear a Blues For Allah Jam in 3/31/84?

Fall '81, The Forgotten Tour

I really missed Blair's Golden Road blog when they first pulled the plug.

Seeing this show pop up reminded me of the Forgotten Tour recap. For those that might not have read this all those years ago.. it's worth a read. Blair can write and he knows the music.

https://www.dead.net/features/blair-jackson/blair-s-golden-road-blog-fo…

1981 Europe

Thanks for posting the link Jim. And I have to agree, the sound quality is not that great, but the music is good. Looks like I will have to check out the October 15 and 16 shows at some point.

The only thing I like as much as listening to the Dead is reading about the Dead and Blair is one of the best.

Peace out.

Dick’s Picks 1 /Dave’s Picks 1

I listened to the first Dave’s Picks the other day and then read y’all’s recommendation for Dicks Picks 1 . I checked both of them out. First time in years.
Last night listened to 12/21/69 Fillmore Auditorium. Great Christmas vibe.
Dicks picks 1 from Dec. 73 is super interesting. Here Comes Sunshine opener is tight. I saw the Dead a few times when Jerry played the Wolf. Also the Nash Strat in 73, at least once my first time seeing Merl Saunders and Jerry.
I’m gonna check 12/23/70 Winterland tomorrow on relisten.
Jupiter/ Saturn conjunction was spectacular last night! Happy Winter Solstice .

Happy Winter Solstice!

I'm hip for 12/23/70 tomorrow.

Sounds like 12/21/69 might have to get dusted off too.

Not that kind of dusted!!!
But some extra curriculars might be in order for both.
Maybe I'll see Saturn & Jupiter line up again.
Not that kind of line up!!!

If you liked 10/2 & 10/3/81 than 10/4/81 is well worth a listen too!
Jerry shreds at the end of Jack Straw. Fun Set 1, Dig the Set 2 CR&S opener, and Fire is on Fire. Along with Lost > Saint, another sweet Spanish Jam. And dug the Don't Ease.
The Dead does London.
They're on all 4 nights for sure.
If there were multi-tracks we'd probably have a box set already and all this would be old news, which it is! ;)
Ah, it's a High Time.

Jorma Kaukonen

80th birthday December 23, 2020 , tomorrow. What great guitar player.

Cone Kid threw this gem out on the Hartford board....

....a surprisingly strong '95 show. I was totally caught off guard.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1995/03/23
The return of Bruuuuuuuce.
-
Half Step
Wang Dang Doodle
Cold Rain & Snow
El Paso
Loser
Easy Answers
So Many Roads
Unbroken Chain
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Scarlet Begonias ->
Fire On The Mountain
Corrina ->
Maltida ->
Drumz ->
Space ->
Days Between ->
Good Lovin'
-
The Weight
-> -> -> ->

Jorma, Jerry & the return of Bruce

Hellzapoppin'!

Now we're talking.

In honor of Jorma, I'll have to give this 5/21/68 a full listen (BTK posted this earlier and I was unawares) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYI9D8PC5jQa

And I like Bruce and a good reason to dig into '95.

Now that's a big fat list of stuff to listen to tomorrow!

5.21.68....

....was the day I was born. Twas a wonderful day. That is AMAZING! All these years, I thought Jerry didn't play a show on the day of my birth. It's not listed in DeadBase. Nice to be wrong.

@VGUY72

Happy Birthday Show!

Check your Messages.

Just a thought to end the year

Any interest in ending the year with like 5 or so favorite New Years Eve shows? We can vote the next few days or throw out shows, and start on the 27th??? I heard Boston Tea Party show on today in GD history today and it started me thinking. Let me know of thoughts, Bob t