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    "Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

    David Lemieux
    October 2020

    Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

    In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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  • Oroborous
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    Honor Roll

    - UNKLE SAM
    - HENDRIX FREAK
    - DAVEROCK
    - COLIN GOULD
    - MAINE DAVE
    - CROW TOLD ME
    - JIMMD

    Gold stars to Maine Dave and Crow Told Me!
    CTM, where the hell did you come from? Welcome aboard! Your a funny crow!
    My day started getting ugly, then I came here and you guys made me feel better, thanks! And as always, our illustrious Mayor of deadnet, Meester Geemmy! Spot on as is usually the case. Couldn’t have said it better!
    The ironic thing is the folks who collect EVERYTHING but are uncomfortable about a lousy hundo...
    Just take a step back for a minute and THINK of what you get for a hundred dead presidents today?..........
    A tank of gas if you’ve got a large truck?, maybe a meal out? Probably not enough to buy a concert ticket anymore?
    A half or quarter depending on where you live?, or a couple cases of “good” beer just to name a few...Your groceries for a week cost more than what you pay for 4+ shows that have been painstakingly restored!
    So considering this, and the fact that one could sell the “offensive” shows for the cost of the whole subscription, it blows my mind why this is even an issue?
    Also, now that the run is 25K, this should ensure that those who simply can’t gamble a lousy hundo can buy ala carte, or not...so why are we even going on about this?
    I know I used to feel sorta like this, but got totally bummed at all the good shows I missed, or have had to pay a high price for on the after market. Nope, for this freak, a hundo for what we get is a no brainer, regardless of source, format, or era! The bonus disc alone is often worth the cost! So far, anything over the years that has been officially sponsored by the Grateful gawldang Dead has always been AT LEAST worth the cost, usually the cost/Golden yummy ratio makes it a steal!
    My only complaint involves the uncertainty of receiving the product or not, which when shipped direct via UPS has never been a problem.

  • billy the kid
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    PROUDFOOT. AHOY

    Proudufoot, I'm glad you dig my picks, 2/17/79 & 4/22/79 , are both great shows, I have a Grateful Dead item you might be interested in, for free, pm me your email and I'll fill you in.

  • JimInMD
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    11/17/71 - Yes

    I'm doing that show now, a hangover from yesterday. 11/17 has gone down as one of the great single dates in GD History. Thankfully, someone hit record and we have several cleaned-up and restored beautiful releases to commemorate the occasion. 11/17/72 yesterday and I am working towards 11/17/73 later today and for desert 11/18/72. There's a bit of hoopla about this on the pick of the day thread.

  • proudfoot
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    Billy the Kid

    your predicted picks are awesome

    may they be accurate

  • hendrixfreak
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    Yes, let's return to my inane predictions

    So I'm convinced -- and I've never been wrong yet, except every time -- that the 2021 box is fall '72. That means DaP # 38 cannot be from '72.

    After (2) '80s shows and a '78, Dave's gotta throw us a '69 show with tons of filler.

    Let the laughter begin. I have literally never correctly called anything on GD releases except that the 30 Trips box included my wish for a show each from 1966-1979.

    Rec'd my GarciaLive 15 last night, so spinning that today. Stay safe out there, Colorado's virus numbers are insanely dangerous.

  • KeithFan2112
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    Good call Gratefulhan

    I did not know it was Life Day until you mentioned it. Hope you make it home on time ;-)

    I thought for sure someone would point out the other 11/17 show I forgot to mention last post: 11/17/71. I guess subscriptionitis caused a ruckus (can you describe the ruckus sir?)

    I wouldn't dream of not getting the subscription. I like being surprised by which shows they pick, I like the bonus disc, and I like not having to worry about a sell-out before I get a chance to purchase. I'm certainly not a business major, but dreading's explanation makes perfect sense to me. I think the most important takeaway for me is that it ensures the cogs in the concert release machine keep turning at the rate we've become accustomed to.

  • billy the kid
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    Jim #38 " a smoker"

    Jim, I think #38 is gonna be a smoker too, I think and I hope it will be two full shows from 1969. I think #39 will be 2/17/79 or 4/22/79, and I think #40 will be 5/26/73, I think those would all be knockouts!

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    Boris: Feedbacker
    Boris: Absolutego
    Moody Blues: any of the first 6 albums, and the 7th if you want something respectable, albeit a little mellow at times

  • proudfoot
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    CJAB

    lol

    I still have CJ's Group Sex vinyl from back when I was a youngster

    innocent until I'm proven guilty
    deny everything
    deny everything
    deny EVERYTHING!

  • unkle sam
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    still don't know what an "antifa baby" is

    Good to see some here got what I was trying to do, but yet, there are still some, you know who you are, who just don't get it. Wait, we all know who you are. That was some funny sh!t that was put up by some here, I was at that antifa babies>circle jerk concert but I was so wasted I don't remember a thing. Long talk with my cat...priceless. I know someone who has a cousin like that but we don't talk about it too much, he gets all upset when we mention his heritage. It's good to see these humorous responses and it's nice to laugh at because that's what it was intended to do, get a chuckle out of some. I agree, with all the crap that is going on right now, let's just try and laugh a little. It feels good and it doesn't cost a thing. Some might think that the things that make me laugh aren't the same as the things that make you laugh, but that's ok too. If they don't think it's funny, put up a joke that they think is funny, and we can laugh at that. Unfortunately, like those of their irk, they will never get that calling names and then trying to explain why they called names just makes them look sad. :( It was just suppose to be a joke, nothing personal. It would be easy to go down that road and revert to the 3rd grade playground with responses like: "I know you are but what am I?" "Nanny nanny boo boo" or "Your mother wears combat boots" but I won't. :)

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"Welcome to the 10th year of the Dave's Picks series! We're amazed and humbled that this community of Dave's Picks fans keeps growing, and we just wanted to let you know how much we sincerely appreciate your support of and interest in the series. We started in 2012 with 12,000 of each release, and now we've more doubled that, with 25,000 in 2021. Wow! We keep working as hard as we possibly can to bring you the best, most exciting Grateful Dead shows in the vault. Our 2020 releases included music from 1977, 1974, 1984, and the latest, biggest release yet in the series, the two complete Hartford shows from 1987. Looking ahead, we've selected two exceptional, A+ Dead shows for Vol. 37 (more on that in the video below) and 38, as well as the Bonus Disc that will come with Vol. 38. Big year ahead! As we head into the 10th year of the series, there's no end in sight. We love what we do, and have loads of plans and ideas for the next few years. Onward to more great music!"

David Lemieux
October 2020

Times may be trying but the music has never and will never stop! Keep the momentum going by doing the Dead all year long with a Dave's Picks 2021 subscription. We're taking the production run up one final time - to 25,000 - for each of the four Dave's Picks 2021 releases. We'll also be doing things a wee bit differently this year - subscribers will be the first to receive their Dave's Picks. A la carte sales will go up on street date (no more pre-orders) and if you don't subscribe - we highly encourage you to - you'll want to be ready and waiting because these releases sell out within hours. Hours - no hyperbole.

In addition to the four releases in 2021, totaling 12 CDs, you’ll also get the subscription exclusive bonus disc, which has proven to be one of the most highly sought-after collectables we release, and free domestic shipping. Subscriber bonus discs will not be released outside of this offer. Early bird subscribers can nab a sub at $99.98 (regular pricing will be $115.92).

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Sweet, yeah so I guess the Collection I have is from 2003 Criterion Collections (got em from the library).

Sounds like they've up their game for the 2017 & 2020 versions.

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That's an incredible clip - thanks for posting that. No wonder Jimi Hendrix burned his guitar having to follow that ! I'll go and have a look on Amazon and see if that 50th Anniversary is available here in England. Hopefully it is-and it would also be good if it included some Quicksilver.

I've just had a look, and I presume the blu ray 2017 release is the one with the Dead in it. Its a two disc set-but it doesn't mention The Dead in Amazons description of what's included.

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Hey Proudfoot! I was at that show. Only have a copy on cassette. How did you get it on disc? I've been hoping for a release someday.

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Philly 8-05-74...what a show...the China -> Rider melted my socks down...blasting on the headphones so my Honey won't say turn it down....Ha...thank you Charlie Miller...

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10-20-84 was released last November on the Bittorent sites by Charlie Miller...great sounding board...

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@DaveRock, I believe based on what I'm discovering (after Carlo13 turned me on to it) that the 2017 Monterey Blue Ray has a 9 minute edit of the Grateful Dead at Monterey Pop which they state was - "the entirety of what the film crew shot” according to the disc menu.

Good review of that collection in comparison to previous releases here - https://criterioncast.com/reviews/blu-ray-reviews/complete-monterey-pop…

But Carlo13 mentioned that the Blu Ray version states that there's a 15 minute version of their performance on this release, which he's currently waiting to receive.

@Carlo13, did I get that right? We're excited for you to get that puppy, but probably not as excited as you are :)

EDITED with some corrections provided by @Carlo 13.

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It's kind of confusing but the 2017 50th anniversary blu-ray edition is 3 disk with the 15 min. version of viola. and there is no 2020 version. The most up to date one which does have quicksilver messenger service by the way Daverock, is the 2017- 3 disk box.

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Thanks Man for the further clarification. I'm trying to get it right :)
They definitely make it hard to tell what's what.
I guess you'd need to do that to keep selling material that's been released multiple times since it's creation 53 years ago.

Speaking of...
Anybody on here have that 50th Anniversary Woodstock monster box?
Curious about that St. Stephen :)

Good Stuff.

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I've got that monster box. St. Stephen sounds typical for 1969 but it's very short because after the "wishing well" verse they transition very smoothly into Mama Tried, also well played. After that, it sounds to me like they're getting ready for High Time, but maybe not, I'm not too good at guessing these things, but instead there is 11 minutes of stage banter.

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Thanks for the Info!

I'm curious if what was released has the small splice in the beginning of the Stephen track that seems to exist in all the circulating SBDs.

I've got the SBD but would love to compare what was released in the 50th collection and in particular St. Stephen.

Would love to get a copy of their set from that release if you want to trade.

I'm sure I'd have something cool to offer or lmk if you're looking for something in particular.

LMK if you'd be interested

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Any chance you can link this in a DM? I checked bt.etree.org and couldn't located it.

I just got the 2017 3-BluRay version and already had the 2009 2-BluRay version.
The 2009 version has an ‘Outtakes’ bonus material on the same disc as the main movie. It does not have Viola.
The 2017 version has the Outtakes separately on a third disc. It has Viola and it’s about 9 minutes long. The disc also has other bands that aren’t included in the 2009 Outtakes, but it seems to be snippets. Steve Miller was added, a total of 3-4 minutes, fragments of 2 songs.
Also added was 4 songs of Tiny Tim performed in the Green Room of the festival.

So, if you already have the 2009 version, the only real addition in the 2017 version that matters is Viola. And it’s pretty cool, but you can see it on YouTube.
If there is an audio upgrade, then that might be worth getting the 2017 version. Otherwise they, so far, seem almost the same.
I haven’t checked the movie yet, or Hendrix/Otis which is disc 2 of both releases.
A remastering to 4K video is meaningless compared to 1080p because the source film is not high res.
But, an audio upgrade of Hendrix, along with the addition of Viola, would make it worthwhile to get the 2017 version even if you have the 2009 version.
If you don’t have any version, then get the 2017 version. The movie is a great historical time capsule.

Checking the 2017 Outtakes disc menu:
Day 2: Steve Miller and Moby Grape were added.
Day 3: GD added.
Hunt Club added - this is the festival Green Room with Tiny Tim singing.

Just compared the video quality of The Byrds between the 2009 and 2017 versions and it looks identical.
Hopefully there is a noticeable audio upgrade of Hendrix, otherwise the 2017 version just seems like a cash grab.

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who brought VLB to the GD.

A great jamming vehicle.

BWAAAAAAA!!!!!!....buh buh buh buhbuhbuh buh buh buh buuuh buh

:)))

Check out 11/10/67

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Bam, I'm hip now.
I think that's what I needed to know.

Hey I sent you a PM.

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I should have clarified:

Which band member first said, "hey guys, we should do this song called Viola Lee Blues"

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It was probaly Jerry as I am sure from his earlier pickin' days he would've been aware of Gus Cannon's work which also included Minglewood, Big Railroad Blues etc

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Went to pick up 3 donuts today; I get to the counter, lady tells me the couple in front of me paid for a dozen donuts for me; didn't know them may never see them again. There are some very fine and kind people in this world.
In case you're wondering, it happened at Rolling Pin Delicious Donuts, in San Bruno, Ca. highly recommended if you're in the area. Donut ease me in.

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BROOOO ROLLING PIN = KING OF THE SOUTH BAY
Once every month I get me and my family a couple dozen donut holes they're literally the best

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Ice cream confirmed the Monterey fiasco. 9 min. Viola. The new version has much less plastic packaging which is good. I would recommend buying the new version. The jimi hendrix motherlode is worth the entire purchase. Janis and big brother are almost too good to be true. Jimi playing wild thing almost brings tears to the eyes. I wish I could copy it for you but dont have the means.

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maybe naps took care of you, but here is a copy

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Thanks Man, I'm glad you got it!

Yeah, I'd say Janis and Jimi and The Who stole the show, maybe throw Ravi & Otis in there as well.

The event that made Pop into Rock

I really enjoy the included audio commentary and the 1987 Pete Townsend interview.

Some day I'll see those fully restored nine minutes until then there's always YouTube.

I'll either have to decide to step up to BluRay or get invited to a Monterey Pop viewing party ;)

But big thanks to you and ConeKid for letting me know exactly what's out there, because I've been curious about that for awhile!

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You can also do a 1 week free trial to the the Criterion channel(Roku has it), the extended Monterey is in there; along with some great other flicks.

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Going off memory from when I last saw it, Country Joe and the Fish were the trippiest. Not much doubt that the doors of perception were open there.

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Hopefully Dave & co. will release a stand alone release this year like the two acoustic Warfield shows, or 4/18/70 Family Dog show they released a couple of years ago. I would like to see 6/27/69 or 10/31/69 released as stand alone releases, both cool shows.

This live footage of the Dead from Monterey is Sweet!

By far the best live footage available of the band from this year.
(Not saying that much as there's very little)

Had YouTube stuff for years but quality is rough. The official release quality is the best yet. (duh)

Big Thanks to Carlo13, IceCrmCnKd & Cousins Of The… for letting me know about this source.

Free trial at the Criterion Channel recommended.
Check out the boys in this formative stage of their career if you're into that kind of stuff.
And if not.. well?!?!

Plus you can watch all of the Monterey Pop Festival and bonus stuff.

Way Stoked!!

You all rock, made my day, keep up the good work.

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Proudfoot, they play a great version of Golden Road on 3/18/67 at Winterland, they only played it live 3 times. 3/18/67 is a great show and I would think a great release. Great copy on the Archive.

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Pretty sure the 5/5/67 date is incorrect.
I believe it's being attributed to 9/29/67 Straight Theater at this point.
There's some pretty dope blog posts about this tape and the dating of it at DeadEssays blog (I think?)

So we've got the 3/18/67 version and the thought to be 9/29/67 version.. which would make it plausible that this song got a bunch more plays than we have on tape.
1967 is a black hole for tapes.
Most under represented year?

Just goes to show how important Bear's role was in recording the Dead.
I think we can thank him as the reason we're all here today.
Thanks Bear!

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I think "Same Thing" with Pig on vocals is on So Many Roads set -- excellent sound, do I recall Jer on slide?

Let's have it!

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the disc i have (labelled 5/5/67) has The Golden Road into New Potato Caboose (with Bobby saying at the start of NPC something like, "this one's for Lahklin")

"everybody say, 'PRIMATE'!"

9/29/67 I recall Mickey saying it was his first show with them, and "we really did play Alligator for 2 hours!"

That's my memory, at least

Yeah, you'd probably dig the thinking behind dating that show as 9/29/67.

A lot of the thought process is based on that comment by Bob and the Dance, Dance, Dance comment.

It's kinda fascinating to a geek like me.

I'll have to look for the link.
* "I'll tell you exactly what's going on up here so nobody has to wonder anymore." - Jerry
"Lay it on me." - Bob
"We're Stalling.." - Jerry
* My favorite banter ever.

In the meantime 3/18/67 is always worth listening to again!

Enjoy :)

EDIT - Links -
DeadEssays - http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2018/06/1967-show-list.html
Here's what they say -
This tape circulates dated “5/5/67;” there is one drummer. Deadbase 50 suggests this tape comes from 6/15/67, but 9/29 is the likeliest date: Weir dedicates a song to (Chandler) Laughlin, who’d just gotten out of prison on a drug bust and been hired as a DJ by KMPX; Weir also alludes to the ‘drop out and dance’ poster.

That links to LIA's research in regards to this show and their comments are here -
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/1967-dead-tapes.html?showComment…

IMO LIA's research and logic is solid, dude is my hero. So thorough.

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9/29/67

I was 3.5 year old boy somewhere in the Midwest.

TOTALLY oblivious to the GD, of course.

2/25/66 (labelled as such) happened when I was TWO freakin' years old.

Wow.

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Anyone have any idea for when they'll begin shipping this for pre-orders? Just curious cause dead net = snail mail at this point. Other than that, we REALLY need an Ark Box Set *love the Viola Lee from 4/21* and MUCH LOVE!

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