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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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August 29, 2021 - 8:02am

#3251

DeadVikes

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Pick of the Day

Anyone have a pick for today?

I am thinking about some post 78 Egypt shows.
August 28, 2021 - 8:04am

#3252

JimInMD

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Re: Ooops

Hope I didn't accidentally offend Rockthing.. if so, def not on purpose. I enjoy your posts.
August 28, 2021 - 3:09am

#3253

rockthing

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You got a crisis back there?…

You got a crisis back there? Well keep it back there. We got nothing but heat and NO WATER!
August 28, 2021 - 1:36am

#3254

rockthing

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Wow. It's been so long, I…

Wow. It's been so long, I had to go back 9 pages just to see what I'd been rambling about last time.

I see the thread has covered a LOT of ground since then. It's all stuff I'm pretty sure I would not be able to comment on immediately.

> icecrmcnkd

The Vanetta video is just astounding. I haven't watched it in, probably, a few years, but my memory is of nothing but good. Sublime performance under extreme circumstances. Really, THIS is the Dead's Woodstock. They are not a festival band. They ARE a festival. The film crew, though, they are heroes. As soon as it starts getting dark this evening. That will be going on the home projector screen. I've been seeing posts about it on various social media for the past couple days, it seems, so I'm primed.

>

In general I like those really laid back, and as many have commented, somewhat tentative '76 shows. I've had the 6/19 Passaic FM tape in my ipod most of the month, but have not listened to it all the way through. Vocals really, really dominate the mix early on, but then I catch a song from later in the show and it sounds a little better balanced. I think this show has a Sampson and Delilah with an unusually jammy ending.

The other stuff in the ipod lately is Live Dead, American Beauty, Skull and Roses, Paris '72, 7/26/72 Portland, Eaton Cornell SBD, Willie Nelson's July 4th pic-nic 7/1/78, Shakedown Street, and the Autumn Records Warlocks demo. Man, I don't know what it is about that Autumn Records demo, but I cannot get enough of it. I love that thing. I can listen to it all day long.

I've spent a lot of time in my day with a few February~April '71 shows and they are a LOT of fun. I'm not sure I've heard any of that August run. Definitely making a mental note. Computing situation is a bit sketchy atm. Been listening to nothing but bird song (no caps) all day.

> 1stshow70878

Thank you for the vinyl advice. I have not used a magnifying glass, but the naked eye does not reveal any scratches at all. I have had success going slo-mo on other records and finding a piece of white crud lodged, as you say. A gentle prod with a finger nail usually releases it. In this case the object may not be white. Thank you.

One thing I noticed about the JICO generic replacement stylus was that it seemed to pick up a lot of "dust". Perhaps that was actually just PVC being scraped off the surface.... IDK. I may have damaged the stylus trying to remove the debris with the stylus brush. I may have damaged the record in handling. It's impossible to place the blame definitively.

I use an Audio Technica brush, and usually use the solution, but occasionally do a dry dust. I also have a Swing No. 25 Dusper that I use to lightly dry off the surface if I get too much solution.

>

So much for that OG green label Europe '72 I ordred. The Discogs seller just took my hundred dollar bill and vanished in the air. That's the second time in a year I've been ripped off buying Dead merch online. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. There were definitely lots of shady vendors in the lot in the later years. For the record, PayPal's claim system is pretty much a joke, in case anyone was wondering.

> Strider 808808

Yeah, an excerpt of Brown's The Sacred Pipe just happened to be in a book on Native American religion and philosophy edited by Dennis and Barbara Tedlock that I picked up when I was, I dunno, 18 or 19, I guess. Brown's piece about Black Elk's vision quest really struck a chord with me. I think it was something about the pacing to the four corners, always returning to the center. Black Elk looks for messages from various auspicious birds that appear, and just as it seems there is nothing to be found, he is spoken to. I didn't actually get 'round to following up on it until fairly recently. My interests moved more toward east Asian philosophy, and western esoteric tradition, but that vision quest account by J.E. Brown has always stuck with me. I think I can relate the experience of receiving epiphanies just at the point of touching bottom. There must be something of those Campbellian universal truths in it.

> JimInMD

Hey, man. Not everyone has free time to write little mini-essays on discussion boards. :) I was mainly trying to justify why I always take up a whole page with my own discussion.... but also kind of trying to say, that , hey, it's ok to be a little critical where criticism is due. It is subjective opinion, though, and I'm not out to hurt anyone's feelings by slamming someone's favorite show.

>

I see people making some Kermit comments RE an '85 pick. There are some nights in this period where Jer has more voice than others, but I agree, he does seem to be trying to pick up the slack with his guitar playing, and often the rest of the band is on a charge, so these were probably super fun shows to attend. A bit before my time, unfortunately. Jerry would sing in a gravelly voice through the end of his career, but there is sometimes a different quality to his vocals from this period that seem more croak than gravel. That said, without opening my music library, I'm pretty sure I have not heard 4-7-85. A week and change later he sounds pretty good. I really enjoy the 4/16 and 4/20 shows that I got turned onto here.

As others have been saying, though, one of the wonderful things about this thread is that it leads me to shows I might not have normally gone to, and some really hot shows from '85 that came up in the POTD really changed my mind, so I definitely want to thank all of you for that. Just in the last year I also discovered some real gems from '81, '82 that are super duper mellow, unlike the high energy of '85, but have also inspired me to happily fill in some gaps in my listening.

And, in reply to this quote, "Did you ever just know you're not going to remember the chords?", absolutely. lol ^^;

> DeadVikes, icecrmcnkd

Living on the other side of the world, I'm always in favor of download options. As much as a vinyl junkie as I am, if it's a choice of a CD or a download, I can often get two download albums for the price of buying a CD and paying international shipping. Iirc the Dave's Picks are only on CD. I love the archive, and I love AUD tapes, but even /my/ bootleg ears have their limits sometimes.

Lovin' the Althea recommendations. One of my favorite tunes. I'll be looking for that Go to Nassau show, now.
August 27, 2021 - 5:09am

#3255

icecrmcnkd

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Video pick of the night

Pole guy

For those inclined to celebrate the anniversary.

The 50th anniversary next year falls on a One More Saturday Night. Maybe they’ll hold a MUATM.
August 26, 2021 - 2:50pm

#3256

DeadVikes

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Bluecrow

The Rosemont in IL. Would be interested to hear more about that show Bluecrow. Kind of an interesting tour in late 81 and I think well played. Need to as always explore more of it.
Dane County in 78, wow! That must have been a great a great show to be at.

Love those Dave's Picks Bluecrow. Makes me want to check out Dave's Picks #34.

Stay well out there.
August 26, 2021 - 5:18am

#3257

bluecrow

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Dane County 12/3/81

DV - that looks like fun and will check it out. did not attend, was at the Rosemont on 12/6. Feb. 78 was only Dane Co show for me. Sure wish I caught more in Madtown because they sure seemed to bring it every time.

Last few days the Dead I've been spinning has been Dave's 17 Selland and Dave's 32 Spectrum. Into the He's Gone vibe and all the other places that come with it.

Take care everyone. Onward.
August 24, 2021 - 4:28pm

#3258

Strider 808808

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August 23,24, 1971

I listened to all of 8/23/71 last night. Today I listened to 8/24/71 or what I could locate of it from Dicks Picks 35.
I realize I’m a dropout from Pick of the Day much of the time. It’s good to see it still rolling.
August 26, 1971 is a significant date in Grateful Dead history in that it was the last time the original five members played as a quintet.(pre Keith) I was visiting Oregon for my first time so I missed Gaelic Park but quite a few of my friends were in attendance.
On another note, Charlie Watts passing is major. I was lucky to see The Rolling Stones my only times live, two nights in Mexico City January 1995 , a month before my final Grateful Dead concerts that I made it up to in Salt Lake City , birthplace of Neal Cassady.
Love So Real / Not Fade Away
August 24, 2021 - 8:21am

#3259

DeadVikes

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9/4/91

That is a bummer Conekid. I will have to check out the next night at some point. I was not able to see the band in 91, which was too bad because they had a lot of good shows in 91.
The sound quality on this one is a solid A in my book. Fun show, nice FOTD, the BTW is good. The Scarlet Fire is a little clunky but still good. Bob really liked to yell during these Estimated Prophets.

For today, I was thinking 12/4/1981 from the Dane County Coliseum. I am pretty sure I saw a few other bands at this venue at some point I just can't remember who it was...
Maybe Bluecrow was at this show in 81?
August 24, 2021 - 7:54am

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icecrmcnkd

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Hat trick denied

Yes, I had mail order tix for a hat trick and was denied.
Never made plans to go to a show with that person again.

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Brent & Keith

Well, Keith's last and Brent's first show that this band is still Truckin'

Pretty amazed at how quick Brent assimilates into the band, but then again Keith did that too.
Musicians!

If you listen to the 4/19/79 rehearsals, it sounds to me like the band is stoked to be playing and changing things up. Lotsa clowning around and jamming.

And 4/22 is solid. Killer Other One and yeah that Passenger is on fire.

Might have to dust off DaP V23 on it's anniversary and head down to Eugene ala '78.

Unless somebody got another Pick to kick.

When's that DaP V37 shipping... should be soon, no?

Dave's 37

Yes, GOGD, we are a week out from the released on date of next Friday. Given how the shipping went last year, I won't predict when we will receive it. I am hoping by next Friday, but not counting on it. I would think Dave's video will be released next Friday when the individual copies go on sale.

Let's do Dave's 23, it is a great release.

Stay well.

Eugene 1.22.78....

....i just listened to this show the other day, but I'm game for a revisit.

This means something. This is important.

Roy Neary - [contemplating the lump shape]

Sweet!
I don't think I've given this much play since I got it.
Maybe a quick once through.

I should probably watch Close Encounters again.
Don't think I've seen that since I was a kid.

Thanks VGuy for taking one for the team and DeadVikes for the refresh on the new release deets, getting excited!

Twist my arm...

I'm in. Getting a late start, but taking an unplanned half day from work and loading up the truck for an adventure. We have good temps and good snow, heading for the backcountry for a day of solitude, music and unbelievable scenery.. plus I will be getting a good workout which is hard to do in the winter of covid. If I see another person where I am going, it would surprise me.

Good thing and thanks to you guys.. I will have some good tunes (and more than a healthy buzz)

Be good all.

One last comment.. it's refreshing how we just breezed through the last show with Keith/Donna and the first show with Brent without anyone making some ridiculous or offensive comment. Productive and sane comments about two great periods of Grateful Dead music.. and no one caught there hair on fire and no one stunk up the room in stupid incendiary comments.

Thanks all.

1/22/78

Mark me down for it. (I’m down with it) the new expression must have been born from the older.
Waiting to add to the discussion when the 50th anniversary of the Capitol Theater shows roll around. I hope those will be Picks of the Day next month.

my first pick of the day is 7/13/84

I had the incredibly good fortune to be there

I still have a piece of paper I wrote on after the show. it reads:

I WAS THERE
MAGIC STRUCK!
7/13/84
Documented!
I WAS BEYOND
I SAW!

7/13/84

Proudfoot, I was there too, what a blast!

Misc replies

Plangent/Norman, for sure, but let’s get the multi-tracks out! Those capital shows are a good example of how (FOR ME) good multi track sources take shows I wouldn’t necessarily consider, and make them go toos!

CARLO: 😀

Yassss....release it ALL!

GOGD: it’s called practice, that and being enthused! That was alooonnng show! You could tell they were itching to play, but seems like anytime they rehearsed regularly, good things happened. I was at Vince’s first show and was surprised how integrated he already was. All three had what?...a month to learn enough to do gigs....yeah, that’s called practice!

DV: hey, as long as it arrives...

JIM: so it was you up in NW merry land who got the magic ticket!...this is just your cover story for disappearing!
But before you go buying that Elmondo-grosso water bed, barko lounger with magic fingers, and the Jensen turntable with the Pickering cartridge, or the leather bond edition of the entire playboy collection featuring Hugh Hefner.....shmuck....with that kinda cash you could probably buy the vault! Just saying....; )

7/13/84: yeah really need that, 12/31/81, 1/10/79, and 1/20/79......but I’m sure no tapes : (

Abort, abort....

.....I stopped Eugene and going with Proudfoot's pick.

If pronouncing my b's as v's makes me sound Russian....

....then soviet.

7/13/84. 1st set

Great 1st set. The only reason I can think that this show hasnt been released, is because they are saving it for a Greek Box set, because this show should have been released along time ago. I dosed at this show and washed it down with a bottle of Bergungdy, that was the progam back then. On to set two.

7/13/84 2nd set

Sounds just as good as it did 37 years ago, Im glad I was there. The show pretty much speaks for itself, it was definitely fun. Great pick Proudfoot.

7/13/84 and my Magic Ticket

I finished McArthur Court, I should be able to squeak in at least the first set of 7/13/84.

Ha.. no, OroB. I do not have the magic ticket, but I know the town the ticket was purchased at quite well. It wasn't far away from where I went to college. Back then it was a dry on Sunday county (that changed decades ago), but we used to go to this rundown bar in Lonaconing called Truly's. If you knew the secret word they would sell you beer on Sundays. It is a tiny, dirt poor town in the Appalachians. If you blink.. you will miss it and the people there have been dirt poor ever since they shut down the coal mines about 100 years ago.

My mind is spinning knowing someone that was more than likely way below the poverty line is now walking around town with 3/4 of a Billion Dollars in folding money in their wallet.

My advice.. don't spend it all in once place.. or better yet, Californy is the place you aught to be so load up the truck and move to Beverly (Hills that is..)

Edit: For anyone with interest, some history. Look for The Big Vein, and for VGuy, it's got a Cumberland (or two)..
http://www.miningartifacts.org/Maryland-Mines.html

Lot a poor man got the Cumberland Blues..

Who was it that mentioned Stockhausen?

I had my virgin listen just now

Woooow man...

It wasn't me..

...who mentioned Stockhausen, but I have got a few albums authored by him. Of the music I have got "Gesang Der Junglinge" is the most startling. Quite scary if you are feeling sensitive.

I actually saw him live once. He made the single most offensive comment I think I have ever heard at a live concert. And I speak as one who saw numerous punk gigs between 1976-1978. People seemed initially stunned , then started booing. It was an odd concert all round - the music off one of his albums-"Hymnen" was played.

Stockhausen

If you like vocal music I would recommend ‘Stimmung’. A fascinating piece for six voices.

Stockhausen

On the DVD ‘Dawn of the Grateful Dead’ TC says that he and Phil were into Stockhausen.

I called up stockhausen on youtube

and gesang der junglinge came up first

I heard elements of Zappa, Revolution 9, and Seastones in there

Gesang der junglinge

Bear in mind that this piece is from 1955 - 56.

Stockhausen-Beatles-Dead

I always thought Seastones, more than most electronic music recorded by rocks groups that I have heard, seemed to be influenced by Stockhausen. And lest we forget, he was on the cover of Sergeant Pepper.

Pick of the Day

Pick of the Day?

Who has one for today?

You still out there Bob t?

Pick....

....I'm playing Dave's 24 Berkeley 8.25.72. Dive on in. The waters fine.

Should Hit the Spot

That one's sure to please.

Today

I finally just did 3/20/92. Was @ but hadn’t gotten around to it, or much of boxilla...
I remember this being a good show and it was ; )

1/22/78: hadn’t heard this one pretty much since it came out. Played it a ton then as I was home liquidating the folks estate for 2 months and only had limited number of shows with me. Yeah, that show helped me through many a long day!

Berkeley - Roses for Breakfast - 8-25-72

Love that release!!
Was just swimming in another excellent Other One meltdown from 7-1-73 Universal Amphitheatre -
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1973/07/01.
Earlier this morning was listening to some Stockhausen. New to me and I was blown away at how completely out there it was. 1950s??!!

Berkeley Community 72

On it Vguy. Thanks.

Thanks Deadvikes still here

I was lucky to start a new job in the middle of December. So busy being a new guy and learning the ropes!!! I did listen to 2/22/74 Winterland and the 7/13/84 show but only set II... I have to agree they missed the boat by releasing 2/24/74 as a stand alone.. Bob t

Berkeley Community down the hatch....

....it delivered.
That Friend Of The Devil is pure butter.
Congrats on the new gig Bob T. You sound positive, so now I do too.
First measurable rain occurred yesterday in Vegas since 4.20.20. It was a welcome deluge.
Makes sense. Snow flurries forecast next week.
Cold Rain and SNOW!!! Lol

Dave's 24

I am a big fan of this show. I listen to it a lot and it never disappoints. This was part of the ABCD transaction as well as the three previous nights. Black Peter, Birdsong and Truckin never disappoint in 1972. Nice work Vguy!
Good to hear from you Bob t and congrats on your new gig. Did you tell your new employer you need time to listen to the Dead?

Hopefully next week we will all see a new show in the mailbox.

8/25/72

Great show from start to finish, very enjoyable. My brother went to 8/24/72. This whole run would have made a nice box set.. Great pick!

Shamelessly Stolen

(which is not beneath me).

Stolen from the other thread (the subscription page?). It's doc inspired. I see no reason not to let the sun shine on the 50th anniversary of this date in GD history.

1-24-71 Seattle Center Arena

There is no 1.24.71 in my DeadBase....

There is a 1.25 though.

1/24/71

Jim, I going to check it out, it might have to be tomorrow morning. Looks like a short show or some of the material is missing.

1 24 71

is on archive

Full show

I think it is one long set

Good playing

Satisfying like a good pizza

50 years ago today here in Seattle

1/24/71

Cool show, Pig Pen sounds really strong. Because of the two drummers, I don't associate this with being a show from 1971, since most of 1971 they only had one drummer.. Cool pick.

11-6-79

Looks like there isn't a show up for today yet. There's been a good amount of '79 lately, and I propose continuing the Brent era party with a fall show at a long time favorite venue, the Spectrum.

https://archive.org/details/gd79-11-06.sbd.miller.29735.flac16

This one is noteworthy to me because of Phil's relative volume in the mix.

This was Road Trips 1.1 that i missed on the first go around. I'm hoping to pick it up from Real Gone when they re-release it.

11 6 79

second set

the first two tracks are sstteellllaarr

11/6/79

Okay Slow Dog, let's get that one going. Thanks for the pick.

11/6/79

Perhaps my favorite 79 show...definitely my favorite one released!

6 13 94

After enjoying 10 1 and 14 94 i got out 6 13. Pretty paint by numbers, but with a nice Terrapin and Morning Dew.

Space went on a bit too long, to be honest

I for one like the 94 sound. Show intensity varies, of course.

27 years ago....SHEETMON.

Eagles Auditorium

There was something magical happening 53 years ago in Seattle.

Epic Alligator

1/26/68 is worth a spin.

Would have loved listening to these shows with Dick Latvala!

Anybody got a line on Dick talking about the PNW '68 shows shoot it over.
He had to have something to say about them.

1/26/68

I could easily do this show today... but I am not seeing any versions that circulate.

Did some of this come through on the found 8 track bonus material on the 2/14/68 Road Trips??

Eagles 68

My disc says 1 22 68, not 26

As does archive, after a quick look

fwiw

Eagles is still there...I drive past it every so often

and I dreeeeeeam...

Eagle

They played there and some (all??) of it was recorded on early multi-track 8 Track tapes. It would be wild if any of this surfaced in a full show format.

Or, since GOGD is the only known person to have 1/26, he must be the one sitting on these master reels.

Cough them up GOGD, rumor has it an angry mob is gathering at the Piggly Wiggly's down the street.. They want your tapes, give them to us before it's too late. We need more 1968!

If you get confused...

Listen to... this :)

Yeah, I forgot that show circulates as 1/22/68, I thought the date had been changed in the listings.
There's speculation around the date and they've always been confusing.
I'm pretty sure those shows happened on 1/26 & 1/27/68 based on the posters that exist.

So 1/22 or 1/26/68, give it a spin. Alligator!

And... no missing master reels.
However, I'll tell ya a story....
My kid's friend's Dad (say that a bunch) saw the show on 2/4/68 in Ashland that doesn't circulate.
Can't even imagine Ashland in 1968 with the GOGD!
Must've been a riot.

Super small town at the base of Mt. Ashland & it still felt like it was off the map in 1995ish.
I used to live next to the College campus back in the mid '90s.
It was an awesome party house and it's there that I threw the biggest Halloween Rager ever one year!!
It was off the hook, this guy fell off the roof a riot broke out.
Ashland had a party vortex going on, probably still does.
Ah youth.
Good times, great oldies.

I'm going to forgo the '68 pick....

....and back track to Doc's January 1971 recommendations. Playing ketchup.

1/22/68. WOW!

What a cool show, start to finish. This one should definitely be an official release. 3rd Dark Star, 1st China 🐱 ever. Excellent pick GOGD, I've never heard this one before. I would love to see the whole The Great Northwest Tour released, I know people say that not all the tapes are there, but the only people that really know are the people that work in the vault, so hopefully these tapes will all show up as other tapes have that were supposed to be missing. Again, killer show, all the releases from 1968 have been compete knockouts.

The Quick & The Dead '68

BTK - one of my favorites!
Stoked to turn you on to it.
Agree that the PNW '68 tour would be a cool release.
I'm partial to '68.

As for the tapes in the vault, I'm pretty sure what circulates came from the "Honeymoon Tapes".
Which, if you don't already know about, I'll tell you.
Lay it on me.
From what I've read, the tapes were swiped from Gans' hotel room while he was on his honeymoon.
I believe Gans had made copies of them from the Vault to review for the show.
And that's how they began to circulate.
Happy to hear otherwise, or more deets if anybody has them.
But that's what I heard / read.

I always liked that story. Not because of the theft, but just because I find it interesting how these tapes get out.

Anyway, Glad you got to hear it BTK, that pick was for you!

11/6/79

Nice show Slow Dog. A lot of great shows in 79 and some not so hot. .....
Always interesting to hear those early versions of Easy To Love You. Man, Brent's voice went through a lot of changes throughout the years.

And the sound quality on this one is fantastic. Love it.