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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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January 30, 2023 - 9:13am

#1351

Oroborous

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POTD 2/21 & 22/73

How bout a double shot?
These are both on Dicks list of recommended 73s and I don’t think we’ve heard them here, at least I’ve never heard em.

BC, I’m sure I’ve missed some picks, GOGD I am not lol. (Even though he’s a stinking quitter; )
Perhaps part of the problem is when several of us toss several things out at once, or like your recent mention of some 72 stuff: we’re those picks, or just stuff for discussion/suggestion?
In those cases, say where four shows are brought up, I’ll mark the one or 2 things that others seemed to actually listened to and or commented on.
Like how I’ll mention something related to a days pick as a suggestion for furthur listening, but I wouldn’t call a “pick”

I’ve been trying to go through at least once a week and note the shows picked and who picked em in my Deadbase, but I don’t keep track of when etc. I’m sure there were times between GOGD and when I became more diligent about keeping track that I’ve missed, SLACKER! LOL

3/21/94: I need to discuss these shows sooner after I listen as I’ve already forgotten some of the nuances I wanted to discuss, yeeesshhk.
I thought this one had good energy for 94 or in general, though Eternity was a bit of a buzz kill. Didn’t used to mind that one so much but it’s shelf life might be coming up? Really dug the second set! I’ve always liked the rocking vibe of Picasso and how JG can rip it up sometimes even if I have no idea what it’s about lol. Cool Speedway, and I usually like a good Victim, though I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Sweet He’s Gone, great harmonies, lil jam into another trippy 90s rave space, followed by a a nice LL/Stella/LL samitch and a Liberty encore for some variety.

3/30/87: I’ve found these spring 87 shows more enjoyable then I recall?
I like the matrixes and this one didn’t seem too bad though I agree that some of them are not balanced so well. I think part of my weirdness with this tour stems from being there, and being disappointed because if certain expectations we had more than the music itself?
The way things were progressing vis a vis breaking out oldies and the old psychedelic energy, 87 was like a step backward (to us perhaps versus reality?) the jams were fewer/tamer, the vibe was much more dialed in, settled, and lacking that element of danger we were getting used to before the first health hiatus.
We had gotten the whole tour ticket package (perhaps for a discount?) though not intending to do the whole thing. Probably figured extra tix on tour are gold Jerry, gold i tell ya!
Whatevs, we did hit the first 8 but by Worcester I think a combination of burnout, tour colds, rapidly diminishing funds, and most of all, feeling underwhelmed? It’s all such a blur, don’t recall much of that spring or more so 86?
So we sold the Wooster tix, hindsight being 20/20 wish we’d gone… (think we got rid of Chi town and Jersey already?)

Anywho, my point being at the time we had a blast, dug the shows as always, but we’re a little disappointed.
So unfortunately, like many things, once I’d made a judgment that was that and I’d sorta wrote em off.
But through going furthur these most recent years I’ve grown to like them, even if not perhaps top shelf?
So This go round of 3/30/87 was quite enjoyable for a lazy day in the comfy chair.
Shakedown not the goat but no slouch and a good opener! Nice well played energetic songs with a good set list.
Second set builds up nicely, including another good He’s Gone. I believe it was this one that has Phil hitting these big single notes on the backside outro section. I remember it really stuck out and I was smiling etc.
Perhaps like much of 87 no really stand out stuff, just good clean safe tight GD! I’ve come to think of 87 as 77s younger cousin in that sense of the band really listening and playing consistent good clean music together as a unit, even if lacking the big jams and fireworks?
Anyway, glad I got it in abd hey, it’s got a Baby Blue ; )

Wish I would of continued with more music yesterday instead of more poorly played football.
Onward!
January 28, 2023 - 3:49pm

#1352

bluecrow

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It's the "Not Quite the FoxBox"

but you know I mean :)
January 28, 2023 - 2:10pm

#1353

wilfredtjones

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Dead Minds think alike

I can't believe I just read a positive review by one Brian Dyke!! 3/21/94 in the Taping Compendium.

Well I'll be....LOL :-)

Onwards and Upwards...

P.S. Just happened to check out the "Fox Box" (edit- well almost) recently and was sampling the 72, too!! :-)
January 28, 2023 - 1:55pm

#1354

DeadVikes

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3/21/94

94 is definitely not a go to year for me
However, I enjoyed this show. Nice same thing, Queen Jane, West LA Fairway, New Speedway Boogie, and yes a great He's Gone! Nice Stelle Blue. Fun times. Recording is good. Thanks WTJ for the pick.
What did you all think?

OB, shit I don't like either team left in the NFC, particularly the Eagles. So, let's go Niners!
Routing for the Chiefs, not a Bangles fan. Should be a couple good games.

Great story about your youth BC, love the Skull and Roses tee. February 73 is hot, but shoot, is there a bad month in 73?

When I was coming up in the ranks of the Dead world in 85, most of the guys at my school were big metal heads, being a Dead fan was definitely not cool. By the time I graduated in 89, those same metal guys turned into dead heads.

I will have to get to 10/19/72 tomorrow. I got through the first set of 10/17/72. Smoking hot!

#45 shipping notice received a couple days ago. Still sitting in the shipping label created stage since 1/25.

Be well out there.
January 28, 2023 - 12:20pm

#1355

bluecrow

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Speaking of

He's Gone/Trucking/Other Ones (though not necessarily in that order) I been listening to the FoxBox '72 and that Disc 3, Night 3, 10/19 is freaking ridiculous. Phil's entry into the Other One??!! Madness I say! Madness!

Have a great weekend everybody.
January 28, 2023 - 2:17am

#1356

bluecrow

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Pretty much

Pretty much mended from the surgery, Oro, thanks. Glad I got it taken care of and other than occasional soreness at the end of the day along the inguinal incision scar all good and fine to hike and scramble out and about.

It surprised me that you didn't have 2/19 on your radar given that you are the primary record keeper after GOGD went radio silent. It's a favorite sequence of mine. I'm a total sucker for those He'sGone/Trucking/Other One jams from those days. Eyes 3rd time played, way jammed out and into China Doll. Perfection. They broke out the Nudie suits for Set I. I think this has to be one of the last shows, if not the last one, where there is no complete set list known. New Riders opened I think. Love to hear it whole. Also, even what we got is missing a chunk at the end of Other One, could be 1/2 a minute, could be 10. Hometown show, though I was still a wee lad at the time and didn't even know who the dead were probably. It's possible that one of my fellow 7th/8th graders went. Many years later a hometown deadhead friend and were i were late night reminiscing about our school days and going over the class photo poster, and while basically everybody is in their sport coats and dresses, one was very much not and we're like "Holy crap, Dan's wearing a Dead shirt??!!" Either a Skull and Roses tee, or maybe a Europe Cone Kid or the Rainbow Foot. '73 or '74. Maybe he was at McGaw Hall later that year. We were totally flabbergasted. Radical move back then for picture day. He was clearly a true fan - heck he might have even gotten on the bus at this show - as a few years ago l learned that he owned Wolf and later donated the proceeds of its sale to the SPLC.

As a somewhat random 3 am aside along lines of gaps in tapes, the DiP18 Eyes from 2/3/78 (my first) is missing about 50 seconds of beautiful Jerry soloing. They did a pretty good job of hiding the splice. Over the years I've seen maybe one person comment on it - they detected the slight tone shift at the splice and were wondering what might be up. You can hear the whole solo on the audience tape (which is a pretty good tape for the era by the way.)
January 27, 2023 - 4:56pm

#1357

Oroborous

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Howdy BC!

Hope you’ve mended up well and are fully able to explore etc!
Sorry about not realizing we’ve hit 2/19/73 per your pick.
Duly noted now and fully dug by moi. Yep, wonder what that first set sounds like?
Looking forward to checking out more unheard 73 this year.

1/24/71: nice short sweet one! Fully dug.
Last third a virtual Pork Roast!!
Recording good cept for occasional distortion, levels or tape condition?

Hoping 3/21/94 next/soon…
January 27, 2023 - 4:09pm

#1358

bluecrow

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2-19-73

That's a Blue Crow special! Loved it for years. It's been here on POTD. It's a Nudie Suit show, with excellent pro photos out there. I keep hoping the missing reels have secretly been returned and Dave's going to spring it on us like he did 2/2/70.

Most recently been listening to October'72 from the FoxBox after DV's suggestion.

I hear you Jim regarding '87 with Healy ultramatrix boards often being more than a bit heavy on the audience. I still enjoy them though, I have the energy from that spring/summer imprinted on my DNA so to speak. The ultramtrix for 4/9 UIC is an upgrade for what was circulating earlier. I think you were at RedRocks and couple of weeks ago I got an '87 Black Muddy River hankering and listened to a good part of 8/11 first night. I was 2nd row center for that one and (to my aging brain) the Miller straight SBD was pretty darn close to how I remember the sound that night. And Park City kicks it.

'94 you say WTJ? - Sure I can do that. I saw some good shows in Seattle & Eugene that year.

Got my shipping notice last night for Dave's 45. Donkey mail should have it here next week.
January 27, 2023 - 2:55pm

#1359

Oroborous

Joined:
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Yard Time

Ok, they let me out for my daily hour of yard time, so…
Hitting 2/19/73. Only 2nd set available but short works for me currently.
Into Truckin, so far so good. Not the best recording but not too shabby either.
I believe both Dick and Doc highlighted this show.

Will probably look at 1/24/71 per recommendation, and since it’s one of only about a dozen I didn’t catch back in 21 when I did the Pepsi challenge!

Will hit 3/21/94 when time permits! How bout some 93 ideas, not necessarily for right now but for later when things hopefully gain some normalcy?

3/30/87 I’d like to check again, just not sure I’ll have time, especially for more groovy picks lol.

DV, who we rooting for tomorrow?
I’m going with 49ers with the GD connection, and how can you not root for the kid who gets picked last!
Unfortunately, I’m not sure anyone can stop the Eagles.

Rootin for the Bungals in the AFC. A) I think their a better team though the Chefs looked more consistent last week than the last time I saw them, B) the ankle: as one who’s broke and/our sprained badly both ankles several times, it will be interesting to see how/if that is a factor? Guess it depends on if he gets shot up so He’d be able to put weight on to throw, but you have to think it will at least have some effect on his running game?
And C) nothing personal to Chefs fans or even pretty boy Patty, but I don’t like the way the league “massages” things for him like they have for Tommy. Or maybe it’s just the verbal diarrhea ad nausea ala Collingsworth et el, but I’m getting sick of the never ending hyperbole…I mean there are 32 NFL teams a whole lotta great QBs, why do they have to over hype one or two to the point fans get put off?

Hopefully they’ll be good games!

Yep, this 2/19/73 is hitting the spot!
Ok, yard times up…
January 27, 2023 - 1:36pm

#1360

PT Barnum

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3-21-94

This is a good one, Moses comes riding up on a Quasar, to start the first set, then A Bertha, a real pretty Peggy--O, a nice West LA Fadeaway, and ends with a TN Jed. And that's just the first set. The second set is nothing but gooey goodness dished up by Jerry and Company. The He's Gone>Jam>Drums>Space TOYL> Stella Blue >TOYL. A great Liberty encore. A great pick, enjoy.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Steppin Out

I don't own this one.
At first I thought Bolo was talking about Steppin Out by Joe Jackson.

I am with you GOGD, I am also interested in hearing about the different mix from the box set.

Almost finished with 2/9/73. What a show. Always love to hear first versions of songs, Eyes of the World, fantastic. Love the HCS, Truckin.
Would be a fantastic show to release.

Astute listeners

Well I'm on Hurts Me Too on Disc 1 and this is def a fine sounding CD!

I haven't gone back and forth and compared the two mixes in real time.
But since I was curious I poked around.. cause, you just gotta poke around.

And here's some info from Deadessays.blogspot.com -
Let’s not forget that big chunks of this tour previously appeared on the archival releases Hundred Year Hall (released in 1995), Steppin’ Out (a compilation of songs recorded on this tour in England, released in 2002), and Rockin’ the Rhein (released in 2004). Also, the box set The Golden Road (released in 2001) and the later individual re-issue of Europe ’72 contained bonus tracks from the tour. Astute listeners will notice that the mixes on these earlier releases is much more refined in terms of dynamics, equalization, reverb, and other sonic niceties than it is on the 2011 box. Keith Godchaux in particular receives more attention to detail on the older mixes. On the 2011 mixes, there is even a distortion issue with the vocals on every show up to the first Paris show (5/3/72) that then pretty much clears up for the rest of the box. Obviously the mixing budget for Europe ’72: The Complete Recordings did not allow for the “extravagance” of the earlier, higher-fidelity mixes.

So we've got some Astute Listeners here!

Any other details folks got about the mixes and the difference in the source material used I'd love to hear about.

But based on what I'm reading the mixes for the previous releases were more enhanced and higher-fidelity due to the production time and budget that the Dead had to work with, or probably should say Jeffrey had to work with.

While I'd heard this mentioned, I've never fully explored it. So therefore.. I did not know that.

Steppin Out

Won't have my copy at hand for a couple days. Thinking back a bit earlier even and just how fantastic Hundred Year Hall was. Its been a long long while since I've listened to that, but if memory serves one of the gifts was how inspired Keith's playing was as part of the whole. While the Steamer Trunk was a holy grail release, I remember thinking what the heck where is Keith a lot of the time, and it turned out that Norman had intentionally mixed him down, at times he seemed barely audible. Not that I don't love listening to shows from the trunk but there is a bit of a sigh as to certain mix choices.
That 17000 y/o conch shell is an amazing story. To be able to hear that sound!! The NPR story from yesterday also had a brief sequence from a repro of bird bone flute that was even older - so pretty.
DeadVikes - grew up in the Chicago area. College in MN. The upper midwest is near and dear in my heart. though I'm way out west now.
Tall pines, tall pines, reaching up for the clouds.

A disgraceful waste, but no surprise

Half-assing it on the E72 sound quality.
But look at who manages the Vault.....
No surprise that they wouldn’t give due respect to an epic tour, but still had no qualms about charging people like they had given due respect.

Of course, don’t forget that the band did a little overdubbing.

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-europe-72-overdubs-guest-pos…

E72

Hey, at least they didn't record over the tapes after they released E72 like they did with the Warfield/Radio City run.

The box was mixed by Norman from the original multi tracks, they used Plagent Processes and Glasser mastered it
I always thought the sound quality was unbelievably good and can't believe how lucky we are that they released it.

Anyway, I have heard the complaints about Keith in the mix before and I think there is actually some text from Norman on this, explaining it.

Anyway, you should check out Norman's explanation of mastering and mixing in the bonus footage from the The Grateful Dead Movie, interesting stuff.

I hope the next box, whatever it is, comes out soon .

Bluecrow, lucky bastard!

Picture this

The overwhelming majority of concert attendees for the E72 tour had never seen the Dead in person before.

Can you imagine the looks on their faces after that insane "Caution?"

Minds blown, faces melted.

This one goes 2>11

Not to change the subject, but thanks to everyone here for reminding us about the fantastic anniversaries we have this month.

Too much working and lurking, not enough time to chip in. Did Maples Pavilion the other day without prompting, and appreciate the reminder about today.

Forensic Doc, I trust that you are going on sabbatical from your job for the month of April? You will be one even busier man then.

And kudos to LedDed for the post of the year on the other thread. I received #24584/25000, sound quality is brutal.

Bolo: for a dollar and a quarter

PigPen bought The Brooklyn Bridge at Princeton back on 4/17/71!!!! Love that Good Lovin!! Bob t

Side tracked to 35 years ago

Was at the Henry J. Kaiser Auditorium in Oakland for the amazing five night run in February 1986 that included the two nights with the Neville Brothers. The jam session on the night of the 11th with the Nevilles was the most exciting guest jam from the Brent era I had the pleasure to see, and hear and feel. I sing the body electric. Apologies to Walt Whitman.
I’m gonna have to listen to 2/12/86 tonight.
Will have to visit 4/24/72 over the weekend.
Weather forecast for the Southwest, Cold Rain and Snow.

Cold Rain and Snow

Gotta drive 300 some miles today through it, but boy do we need it. pretty much never say no to moisture out here.

A favorite version is 7/7/78 - my first tape way back when was "by chance" one of the greatest audience recordings I've ever heard. You are THERE(!!) for that first show at Red Rocks - lightning in a bottle. 1st set is my favorite post-hiatus - absolutely smoking. As most here know, Cold Rain starts Set II - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1978/07/07/cold-rain-snow?source=914…

Have a great day everybody. Onward.

2.12.86 Kaiser....

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1986/02/12
....I've never heard it. Post drumz looks fun. Giving it a shot.

Cold Rain & Snow

Got some.

VGuy: You might want to start with 2/11/89, not knocking 2/12 (there's a Willie & The Hand Jive after all) but 2/11 is smoking!! (or maybe that was me.. na, na.. it's smoking too.)

BlueCrow: 7/7/78 huh? Might have to dust that off after I visit this Janis Joplin set from 2/12/69.
What a night at the Fillmore East 52 years ago.
The 2nd night of the GOGD opening up for Janis and her new band and their NY debut.
Some cool video snippets float around out there from 2/11/69 when 60 minutes came to interview her, wonder if CBS has all the source footage that was shot that night?
Highly unlikely, but I can't help to think about it..

And, wow Steppin' Out sounds dope!
A great compilation and I'm glad I finally gave that a spin.
Melted Brits must've been everywhere.
Nice pick BOLO, did you get to rock the big speakers?

Good times and great oldies.
Happy Friday.

Always am wrong with Bolo's clues and Boxes

Like Ostrich racing on landfills. I'm going with April 71 box.... Not the whole month... but Manhattan Center shows... Princeton... etc... Have a good weekend everyone... Don't forget tomorrow has a nice anniversary show with nice "pop" during Dark Star.... Bob t

Good Ole

Yes, indeed. Cranked up the big system yesterday, garnering a few puzzled looks from folks walking around the hood. They don't know what they're missing!

Downside? I have to replace a couple cracked windows. And the dog has given me the 24 hour stink-eye.

Still worth it.

why not

Daves 40 will be Gainesfreakinville

no wait...Daves 39 will be Gainesville, and Daves 40 will be something gargantuan from 1968.

Saved it for tonight

2-11-69 anniversary

How was that 2.11.69??....

....I hear it's got a raging Doin' That Rag.
Edit to GOGD. I was present at the 2.11.89 Forum show. I said before and I'll say again, that show was the most lit show I attended. I was a psychedelic mess. Cheers. Thank God we booked a room right across the parking lot.
People lit fireworks down the hallways. At least I think they did. Who knows. Our room door was open all morning lol.

Wires Crossed

VGuy - Oops I got my wires crossed, I had been talking about 2/11/86 with Strider, so when I saw your post, I was thinking / referring to '86 and typed '89. That all being said, now you make me want to check out Feb '89 shows.
Def check out 2/11/86 when you get some free time. Trippy!

Bolo - Nice! And what's a little stink eye from a dog and the neighbors compared to hours of audio bliss?!?!
Dig that compilation and glad you mentioned it, def worth having in the ol collection.

BobT - Where's the clue?

Alright, snowy day in Oregon. Starting off with some Don't Hang Off the Balcony and My Dog Has No Nose, Crazy Fingers > Supplication > High Time, boy oh boy.
I bet you all can guess the show?

And happy Anniversary 2/13/70, 51 years ago the Dead played one of their greatest shows ever!!
I think I'll have to fire up that Dark Star > TIFTOO at the very least.

What else we listening to?

Good Ole

Why are you up so early on a Saturday?
I’m 3 hours ahead of you and you still got up before me.
Well, technically I got up before you, let my dog out to pee, then went back to bed.

I guess you are like a kid on Christmas morning, so excited you can’t sleep, got to get started on a Saturday full of GOGD.

Think I’ll start with your recommendation of 2-13-70.

Stupid reCRAPTCHA

It insists that a mailbox is a parking meter.
Wouldn’t let me pass the test until I selected the mailbox.

Added to the listening list

ABB 2-11,13,14-70%
Bears Sonic Journals.

New ABB release coming

https://allmanbrothersband.com/the-allman-brothers-band-to-release-live…

Proceeds to benefit the ABB Museum in Macon.

where's the clue?

Bolo's/Schroedinger's Clue.

starting the morning with Steppin Out.

Those Feb '89 Forum shows look awfully interesting. All sorts of goodness those nights but I mean a Set II Monkey and the Engineer??!! along with Dire Wolf?!!

Of course 2/13 needs a spin.

Still need to get the ABB Bears Sonic Journals.

A whole lot more cold rain and snow forecast.

ICECRMCNKD

Haha...
I'm a morning person in my older age for sure.

It's like Christmas every morning when you're a GD Freak!

Did the Dark Star > TIFTOO > TOYLL out of respect.

It's a trip, made me think of something.

My first GD mentor, who I barely knew, sure did know what he was doing.

I mighta told this story before, but.. fuck it.
My friend Kevin's older brother flipped me my first 3 bootlegs.
We were in high school & he was home from college and having a rager Keg party.
So we were so stoked to be hanging and partying with all these college age guys and gals.
I remember they seemed so grown up.. and Joe (I think that was his name) had racks of tapes.
They were blasting GOGD, it was awesome.

I got to talking to Joe, and told him I'd just started getting into the Dead and was curious about all the tapes.
He asked "What are you into?"
At the time I was super interested in Psychedelics and finding the best music to trip to.
I'd heard about "Space" so I said, you got anything with a lot of Space?
He looked at me curiously...
You want a lot of "Space", huh?

Anyhow, he flipped me the tapes with the caveat "Never sell them, only share".

2/13/70 = Dark Star one side TIFTOO other side 60 minute tape?
4/29/71
2/09/73

Nice picks Joe!
Still 3 of my favorite shows.

Yawwwnnn, morning yall

5/31/80: well I didn’t peak, so I didn’t realize that the Miller SB version I picked was only second set. So as I was doing some PW etc I started to think “WTF?, did they play the second set first lol, no wonder Proudfoot said not to peak”
So I didn’t hear the first set but did really enjoy that second set. This is the kinda thing I’m looking for here, these off the path chestnuts that might never listen to unless someone you hang with turns you on.
Like those 86 shows too. Though I think I might of had the 11th? If it wasn’t such a hassle I’d drag the tapes out.
Didn’t get to those, but I should. I’ve had this thing with 86? Can’t really describe it but don’t feel drawn? I guess if I could remember the Hampton/Philly run I’d have a better feeling, but unfortunately I don’t remember much. Like of all the blurred and forgotten memories, that spring run is like a black hole...probably too many veggies, but I can’t even remember what it was I dropped? Can’t remember much about tapes from 86 either, which probably means I wasn’t that into them? Probably binged out all that year on 85 tapes, like TOGA! (I hear ya GOGD!)
Remember a little more about the 5 summer 86 shows I saw which were mostly good with Riverbend leaving a smoking crater, but Akron I don’t recall much, except meh, and just sorta getting Altamonte fear vibe from like smoking tires etc on the way in...I think? LOL (actually have listened to all those and non are as bad as I thought)

FED 89: now these I’ve always been meaning to check out as I recall my cousin (might of been at?) said they were good? I’d love to hear more about this run from anyone who was there...though sounds like VGUY was in similar condition as me at those spring 86 shows ; )

2/9/73: ok, did this one yesterday. Never been that blown away by this one, I mean it’s basically a sound test.
I’m sure part of my lack of sparkle is because of the shitty tape I had and the fact that I wasn’t ready for the more jazzy 72-74 stuff. I know what tapes I had from that era back then were never very good so I think that had something to do with a lot of BS first impression/pre-conceived notions I acquired, idiot!
Yeah I lived for like raging late seventies/early eighties then, but I digress.
So as I’d not heard it in a long time figured it was time. Now, it’s a good 73 show, and I can understand how some folks are really into “first version shows” etc, so there’s the historical element,....I guess I’m trying to say that it’s a good show, but I’d wish there was more big 73 type jams, and I can think of a half dozen other 73s just off the top of my pointy little head that I’d rather see get them”treatment”.
But hey, that’s just me...glad I heard though, Eyes definitely interesting!

re; Good ole and the clue

2/10 at 12:27....Bolo says I got a dollar and a quarter to kick things off..... Pigpen rap during Princeton Good Lovin from April 71..... I'm reaching but at that time he posted it I thought i solved the mystery of the sphinx...... ha ha Bob t

can't remember oroborous...

perhaps it was the powder in the bottom of that bag'o shrooms you ingested..

Shroom powder....

....criminally underrated.

Nice!

Ok, folks, your in for a treat now as Boo is one of my oldest show buddies. We were pretty inseparable for years back in the bad ole daze; band mates, house mates, roadie/tech work together, and all around looking for trouble aka Neil and Jack, or more like the 2 lead characters in the movie the Stoned Age, a must see for anyone growing up in the late seventies/early eighties. Like Dazed and Confused only better!
Yeah, the two of us on here, hee-hee, “look out Cleveland” part of our “act” was me being a dumb ass, and ole Boo letting me know it! LOL Miss ya Buddy! So glad ya made it!
EDIT: oh yeah, and the shroom powder, that was Hershey, remember, I lost my shit in Hershey! Lol.
We’re we together on spring 86? One tour I remember nothing, cept a couple of the breakouts...

2 11 70

What a gem

Neal & Jack

Now you’re talkin!
Happy Valentines Day. I almost wrote Ballantine. Anyone remember olde Ballantine XXX Ale.
2/14/86 GD concert was fun, not near as exciting as 2/11,12/86 nights with the Neville Brothers. But I still had an awesome time. I’d say check it if it moves you.
Four days until the 50th anniversary of 2/18/71. I’m searching those those foggy ruins of time with a searchlight casting for faults in the clouds of delusion.
Read the final writing of Kerouac, “After me the deluge”.

Cream Puff War

You can't take my mind and leave...

I think it's a good day to listen to the Valentines -
https://archive.org/details/valentines1995-02-14.mtx.miller.117207.flac…

Cream Puff War 1995 smokes

Happy Valentine's Day

BobT - I never would've noticed that as a clue! Was it Bolo?!?!
'71 would make sense as a release after all that was 50 years ago.

OB - Check out 7/6/86 Beginning of Set 2 for some under the radar '86. It smokes!
SBD doesn't circulate, but DL put that portion on Taper's Section and brought it to my attention.
(SBD portion had a lot of drop outs that I messed around with and patched)
It doesn't look like much on paper, but its' real good.

Speaking of 2-14-68

The Viola filler on the RT release is the same Viola that is included in the Origins free download.

What here we do say, shall under roses stay

We do not know where the rose comes from.
Rose fossils 32,000,000 years old have been found in Colorado and Oregon.
- Annotated Lyrics by David Dodd

And when the day had ended, with rainbow colors blended, their minds remained unbended.
- Jerry Garcia

Jerry's second stab at song writing is pretty damn good if you ask me. But, I liked his first stab too.

1968 at the Carousel must've been a hoot.
Burn down the Fillmore, gas the Avalon.
We respectfully dedicate this set to the memory of Neal Cassady

BTW the Annotated Lyrics by David Dodd is next level GD scholar stuff.
I'm impressed with all these smart Dead Heads < One word or Two?

Good Times.

GD Annoted Lyrics is an incredible tome indeed....

.....Mrs. Vguy gifted it to me one Christmas past. Read it to her in bed a few times. Gave her AND I a new appreciation of the words.
Grate stuff.
Now. Onto my annual listening of 2.14.68. Cuddling up in a comfortable blanket of some Primal Dead.

GOGD...

thank you for the r3ference to 7 6 86

Very nice. I listened today via archive on phone while refiling and selecting shows.
StoC thru Stella

86 is an oddball year. There are plenty of gems. Since it was only a partial year due to Garcia illness, maybe it gets unfairly shunned.

2 14 86
3 21 86
3 27 86
3 28 86
4 3 86
4 19 86
4 21 86 "stehwehstehwehstehwehstehweh..."
5 3 86
7 7 86 Satisfaction

Good Stuff

Proudfoot - Oh Yeah, You Betcha! (Think Fargo accent)
Glad you checked that out and dug it.
That 7/6 really surprised me, DL put it on the Taper's Section and I was way stoked on it.
There's some stuff in them thar hills, a fun year to mine. There's some fools gold too!!

VGuy - Ahhh, that's awesome.
I really enjoy pulling that book out and exploring it when the thought strikes me.
It's not my type of read it cover to cover style book, but when I do pick it up and go there, I'm always glad I did.
And it's so well done.
Way to go David Dodd, impressive work!

This '68 Carousel is too much!
That Alligator > Caution...
I grew up wondering what show that was from, it sounds like an epic good time.
Nice send off for Cowboy Neal.

China Cat Sunflower in its infancy....

....2.14.68 gives so much, but asks for nothing in return.

86, 68, hut hut

GOGD; thanks fir the 7/6/86 reference. I’m not doing Dead today but it’s on my list!
86 needs some intrepid traveling for sure...I know I liked 86 in 86 lol, but through the years it’s fallen through the cracks. Not remembering spring tour doesn’t help. I know I finally gave those shows a superficial listen on a job sight a couple years ago, but I really need to give them a better look. Still haven’t gotten to the Boxilla show either.

2/14/68: RT 2.2, one of my most sought shows I don’t have yet. Waiting for Real Gone to hurry up and redo it. They were moving along pretty well at first, probably 4 a year like Dave’s. Then, a couple years ago, they slowed way down...maybe they had to slow down because rhino thought they were competing with DaPs?
Anyway, been digging the RT 2.4 show from 93 much more then I would have thought. Hopefully sooner than later 2.3, from 74 will be out, since this is another highly anticipated one, hell all of volume 2 is!
So I’ve purposely not listened to 2/14/68 YET, so I’m hopeful they’ll put that out ASAP this year...until then think that ketchup song...”antici-pa-a-tion, is making me wait”

BALLANTINE ALE: ah that brings back some memories...don’t recall my impressions about drinking it, probably cause back then it was most once’s for the dollar..but since my initial reaction is not recoil, perhaps it wasn’t too bad?
But I do fondly recall my pops often giving me 2 dollars to ride my bike down the street to the convenience store so I could get him a sixer of either Gobel or Ballentine, often on sale for 99c a sixer, in the back of the store in a giant pyramid with big sorta starburst price sign, and a pack of smokes (25 or 30c?) which left me a nice little bounty to buy baseball cards etc for the trouble. I’d toss the beer and smokes in my basket and rush home so I could find out if I got anything good! Must of been quite the sight!
Hey it was a much different time and the manager/staff knew me and my pops and stuff like that happened back then.

Early '86 offers up first sets like this....

....Spectrum. 3.23.86.
Gimme Some Loving->
Deal
Hand Jive
Candyman
Cassidy
West L.A. Fadeaway
Mama Tried ->
Big River ->
Might As Well
.
Sounds danceable on screen. 🙃

12/15/86

Killer show.. Garcia's first show back.

My first show was 4.13.86....

....Irvine.
The girls were pretty. That was my first takeaway. I was 16. Sue me.
Didn't revisit the Dead until July '87. Was still in heavy metal mode then. Not an excuse. Just facts.

Happy Ballentine day , I mean Valentines Day

2/14/68, truly a relic of the psychedelic. Have not listened in three years as I did for its 50th anniversary .
But right now I’m traveling back 35 years ago to 2/14/86. Earlier today I glanced at my bulletin board and there was my ticket from that night! Took that as a sign I better relisten and report back.
As I had been given a backstage pass from Brian Williams who was an assistant to John Cutler I brought an old Japanese poet friend Nanao Sakaki (January 1, 1923 - December 22, 2008) who had been visiting up at Kiskadee outside of Nevada City. I got in early and got a couple seats on the left side close to the stage , of course being the Kaiser, just off the main floor. Right now I’m finishing out the first set. As it had been raining cats and dogs and mountain lions and coyotes the Dead played several songs referencing those elements . What strikes me about this run of Dead shows is how tight they were. Let it Grow was so tight, or like the Sun Ra album title it was “bad and beautiful “. I did go back stage at the end of the first set to grab Bobby Petersen to step out front so he could meet Nanao . I believe I had a signed copy of Nanao’s book Real Play that we gave to Bobby. That was the last time I saw Bobby Petersen who died the following January 1987.
So second set they opened with Keep on Growin the Derek and the Dominos song. Last time played. Listening to it now it sounds alright and better. I remember Nanao commenting on the Kaiser Auditorium being like a giant space ship. Boy howdy. Nanao was a true free spirit who loved spirits and smoking ganga. Now listening to Lost Sailor. I don’t believe I’ve listened to this concert in over 30 years. Oh yeah I recorded every night of this run with my Sony D-5 by patching in with other tapers. I’ve got those tapes still. Some on metal tape and others Maxell 2S. I have no idea how they may sound now. Decomposing further I reckon . Was going to pass on listening to this show but then finding the old ticket changed my mind. Sure don’t know what I’m going for but I’m gonna go for it for sure. Drums and space really impressed Nanao who many times was the life of the party at drum jams in Taos County in the 80s. Of course Bobby Petersen and Laird Grant lived in the Taos area off and on in the 60s and 70s. Laird at New Buffalo and Morning Star and Bobby up on Lama Mountain. I didn’t move to New Mexico until 1982 so was a late comer. You could say early 80s was the tail end of the old hippie days. Depends on who you talk to I suppose. I met Nanao in Zuni December 7th 1980. I had traveled there with a WW2 Navajo veteran (communications Sargent) but I digress.
Terrapin sounds awesome at this time. Calling on the elements. Keeping it real. I get goosebumps hearing this show. My God time flies. Anyone who had the opportunity to see the Grateful Dead live even once (and got it) was quite fortunate. I think about the youngest Deadheads (10-11-12?) at some Dead shows in 95 who really became intrigued who may live to 95-101? What 2080? 2085? Who will be the last living Deadhead who actually saw the real Grateful Dead (1995 cutoff thank you) It will perhaps be something like the last Civil War veteran alive or the last WW 1 veteran alive.
Back to 2/14/86, space sounding expansive. Echos from the stars. ( today from Mars?) Left a smoking crater like my mind was blown away. So here it is Valentines Day 2021. My mind is blown. But I will reiterate from another time, to keep your memory sharp, try not to smoke too much herb and drink too much. Exercise, clean diet ( freedom of choice ) good water. Good friends, love of family, lust for life , rise before dawn, greet the sun, give thanks for another day.
Ah yes , Wharf Rat, old man down by the docks of the city. I got no dime but I got some time to hear his story.
So go out and do some good dear readers. Glad I could share this story.
“I’ll get up and fly away, fly away!”
“The compass always points to Terrapin”

How Sweet it is!...

Yuck, yuck, get it...? ; )
Strider, sweet post, nice vibe, nice memories, I’m going to have to look at that run. I feel like a had a couple sets from that run, but who knows...tight ya say? That’s interesting cause though I recall liking most/all the shows from that year my recollection is they could be intense, fiery, weird, but occasionally sloppy. But I’m learning that many of my memories are no longer relative lol.
So I think I need to go there...buy the ticket...

VGUY: girls, girls, girls!
Wow interesting set...I was @ those Spectrum shows, and I remember Hand jive sorta but that’s about it for that one....dooooaaahhh, stupid memory! Kinda bums me out I don’t recall such a fun set, or maybe I’m just fortunate I’ve seen so much over the years that it all rolls into one....am I the Victim or the crime?

EDIT: trying to remember now what year/show (86/87?) we saw at the Rectum where they had double booked the venue; WW wrestling followed by the GD....surreal as the meat heads, actually, I remember lots of children with nervous looking Dads LOL, but they had to make their way out through a large, anxious , aaa, “primed” crowd of Dead Heads! Actually very smooth but definitely interesting! Can’t remember what time the band started, but I know we were there well after midnight...Road crew must of loved that shit!

Memories of my parents watching Jackie Gleason on a little black and white TV.

And still more Cold Rain and Snow - long day ahead. Be safe everybody.

S. Clay Wilson

Died February 7, 2021.
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