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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5HJxHTm5M

    Well, not quite forty below, but went from like 65 on Saturday to 6 last night and a foot of heavy snow, ugh...it’s too early for this! Luckily, I don’t need to go any where so I’m going for the hatrick today!
    -10/22/89
    - 10/23/89
    - 10/26/89 hopefully...
    Wish me luck, onward!
    Stay warm! and safe!

  • The Good Ole G…
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    It Was A Very Good Year (Remaster 1989)

    When I was Nineteen
    It was a very good year...

    I couldn't resist, but I'll be Frank & spare ya any further reference to ole Blue Eyes. (I'll be Frank, get it?!? hahaha)
    I've always enjoyed hearing what was happening in 1989 and dig it.

    Nice recap OB, fun times!
    I especially liked the line - "the dream is weakening".
    LOL at that as I peaked at the post drums set list and saw the death of a dream there.

    Good Stuff!

    And I second VGuy that 10/25/89 show is killer, it's the Light before the Dark. Kinda cool that they were using that PITB > UJB > PITB as a vehicle during the Dark Star breakouts. And I mentioned this before but the Set List Heads must've been holding their breath after that sequence on 10/25.

    5/26/72 deserves big praise and accolades. Top 10 show?
    I'd go into it, but it's Monday and too much to do. The only Set 1 NFA > GDTRFB > NFA, and hearing the crowd get it started is a real treat. And... Is this the first PITB that goes outside of the 7/4 realm, based on what I was reading in the Taper's Compendium they're saying yes. That's Huge! This is quintessential Europe 72 literally.

    And, '78 has been on my radar since the DaP V37 announcement.
    Yesterday stumbled into 1/11/78, what a ripper.
    Check out the Let It Grow on that puppy. Holy Shit!

    Alright, time to get moving.

    Catch ya later.

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    .....saw them 13 times that year.
    It was a good year.
    On board for Miami tomorrow.
    The 10.25.89 show.
    Hell In A Bucket->
    Sugaree
    Little Light
    FOTD
    Memphis Blues
    Cold Rain and Snow->
    Picasso Moon
    Deal
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    PITB ->
    UJB ->
    PITB->
    Standing On The Moon->
    Truckin' ->
    Drumz->
    Gimme' Some Loving->
    Wharf Rat ->
    Sugar Mags
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    US Blues
    Underrated
    Better fire this up now. Its 8 o'clock currently. I've got time.

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    Game on...

    If we could go back in time.. I would love it if they cleaned up the vocals on Dark Star for this one. Minor gripe, because its quite good.. anyway, game on.

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    I need to check these shows out Oroborous, I always love a good Shakedown. Sounds like a blast!

    Which reminds me we should probably check out 10/26/89 tomorrow? The Multi Track 89 30 Trips show from Miami.

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    Right on Oroborous. Good vibes, great read.

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    So by now everyone’s fully settled into the Rectum run, and speculation and expectations are running high. So far only the Death Don’t, as far as the Big ticket tour items, so what would it be tonight, and would we go home slightly disappointed with Hampton as the “ones” and missed opportunity in Philly?
    Certainly not out the gate. Nice 1-2 Touch O-GSET, with the usual era M.O.: loose but spirited. Then a nice Candyman, the second of only two on the tour. Another of those loose canon Weir rockers, Picasso Moon, which still seams a work in progress, but rocking. A decent Little Light, probably my favorite Bret tune, perhaps a bit smoother than some of the previous? A spirited Jed, Memphis, Stagger Lee, and set closing Promised Land....or wait??, WTF? Que other big top tour item from this show, the first ever of only 2 California EarthQuakes!
    Though unfortunately I don’t have many specific memories from these shows, I do have a Kodak moment in my thick skull of this. So JG doesn’t stop, the crowd goes from end of set roar to you could hear a pin drop as I don’t think anyone knew this old tune. So everyone was tuned into try and hear what it was etc. By the time it builds up to that first chorus, the place goes GD nutz! Since those horrible quakes had just happened out there, everyone was well aware of the dire situation, and in true, magnificent GD style, they fucking killed it! What a tribute, made me proud to be a Californian and I’ve only been there visiting like a month total over the years. I’m literally getting choked up remembering this top shelf, all time personnel GD moment, a small elite, but powerful league to be sure.
    So now the energy in the building is bursting. Will we get the DS, the Attics, a Dew, at least a Bid Thee Goodnight to close the run?
    The second of only two Hey Pocky Ways to start the second, into the only Scarlet Fire of the tour, and a good showing. followed by a Truckin’ that morphs into a wild Other One Jam, 89 weirdness style, which devolves even more into the primordial ooze of drums/space midi electronic psychedelic joy, eventually morphing into I will Take You Home, which would normally be a good change up and it’s usual spot, but with each passing song the dream is weakening...
    And though we get solid Other One>Rat>Maggy, with a usually appropriate run closing Brokedown, second of only two on the tour, I have to admit, there was a small let down. LOL, makes me think of DHBrewers awesome DaP 36 post! Ah gee shucks, lol. We’re so spoiled! ; )
    Never the less, a great time was had by all, and a super run of shows that I was so fortunate to be at. So yeah I’m biased, but I think these three should land somewhere, someday officially. And though I’ve dreamed of a fall 89 comprehensive tour box, probably something smaller, say 5-7 shows depending on how you slice it would be more appropriate? In that case, which of these shows would get the ax? Tough call, some help reduce repetitiveness over several shows, some have tour rarities, some historical moments. I’d think at least 2 should be included, with the third day being a future Dave’s? Perhaps just a Spectrum 3 show box? Meh, think it needs a bit more bling?
    So so far my ruff draft fantasy box list would something look like this:

    - 9/29/89 for obvious reasons, but depending on space?
    (* 10/8&9/89: already out. 2 from Hampton)
    -10-14-89 my choice of the 4 not released yet. Would be 2 from Jersey
    - 10/15/89 Jersey runner up
    (*10/16/89 already out)
    - 10/18,19,20/89: I can’t pick? Say 2 for the box, one for Dave’s?
    So say four or five so far with 2 Charlottes and a Miami to go. If both Charlottes and the Miami are worthy, that puts us at
    1- 9/29
    2- 1 Jersey
    3/4- 2 Philly
    5/6- 2 Charlotte?
    7- 10/25 Miami ?
    Including previously released material, this would give us 2 from each venue, with the single 9/29 show as a bonus disc for a total of 7 shows? Maybe too early to decide yet...so,

    Ok, on to Charlotte. Besides an unusually positioned H/S/F on 10/22, and 2 more biggins on 10/23, I’m stoked because I’ve never heard these before! So, when the Gods allow.....Onward!

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    10/19/89, it has a Cumberland!

    My 75th show picks up Rockin’ right where they left off the previous night, like a luge outta the gate, rattling around on the track, potentially out of control, through the first turns of Bucket, and a tad smoother into West LA, but eventually settle in and their here to play! After Bob? has to mess with shit, thearby taking the proverbial wind outta the sails, but eventually they come back with a good Victim, though it’s interesting to note this and Blow Away on this tour are more truncated versions. In the case of Blow Away that’s probably good as I think the extended rant versions could get stale if done all the time. Victim on the other hand would grow into a ridiculous auditory beast especially on the spring 90 tour and with the use of the surround speakers. Perhaps my personal fav is the one from Hamilton which unfortunately being a stereo recording does not let you experience the amazing weirdness we enjoyed on the floor that night!
    Then, yes indeedy it does have a Cumberland! Followed by a spacey Cassidy>>Dough Knees.
    But the biggest highlights of this show, and perhaps the run, come in the second set.
    Only the Third Help-Slip-Franks since 9/12/85, and a fine showing they were. Next a status quo Estimated/Eyes, but I want to say I think I remember some nice midi weirdness in Estimated? Or maybe I’m mixing up my shows?
    Onward through the weirdness zone, with gentle reintegration via The Wheel, which slides nicely into Mr Fantasy/Hey Jude Finale, only the second of two on the tour, which means wait for it....that’s right we’re getting a Death Don’t, the second of only two on the tour, and only the third since 4/26/70, and what a experience, get bumps just thinking bout it. Perhaps my fav of the three, but I need to line em up back to back...
    Lovelight is a nice choice to finish/follow the big dog, and a always welcome Baby Blue encore, cept this time we might of been disappointed hoping for an Attics, but expecting at least a We Bid Thee Goodnight! Keep em wanting more eh!
    This one definitely needs to come out in some form.

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    Phewwww, it’s crazy how fast you can fall behind, but dagnammit I started this tour and I’m gonna finish.
    So anniversary schedule is out the window but that’s ok cause I’ve been marinating in these shows to try recapture some of that old school familiarity like back in the day when you’d only get a few tapes now and then so you’d play nothing but until you knew em inside out...so several plays on the pad only at work, but had some nice proper listens at home this weekend. Overall there a little chameleon like, much like most of this tour. One day something doesn’t sit right, but the next time time you listen your going, ohhhh. Most 89, but not quite spring 90 tight, including the midi, but then outta nowhere some weird hiccup, or ruff spot. Bob especially seems to have some “moments” on this tour, mostly small and/or subtle, he’s playing great and he's dialing in the raunch nicely (think it started going too far later in the 90s?) but somethings just a tad off now and again? Perhaps this is why he uses tapes and gives cudos to summer tour versus fall more often?
    But it’s the kind of thing you wouldn’t really notice unless your doing the whole tour like this...and it’s kinda nit picking.

    So, 10/18. Opens with the only Shakedown of the tour, and though HENDRIXFREAK and I won’t be goofing around about GOAT anytime soon, its still a nice opener and a nice treat on this tour. Like much of this time span, it starts kinda relaxed, low key, and on its on time, but once the cobwebs come off it’s decent. Other highlights include a Peggy O just for Jimmy, a spacey Birdsong into a decent Music Never. Perhaps a short but sweet first set and a good first night of multi night run show. Back with an upbeat China/Rider Jers rippin. Nice Ship of Fools followed by a 89 style Women Are, and a Terrapin that spaces out into the awesome weirdness zone, formerly know simply as drums/space, with more of the psychedelic majesty, even if it is electronically induced versus chemical!
    But they come Rockin’ outta there with the 1-2 punch of Gimme Sum>>Watchtower, with JG keeping it real with a sweet Black Pete, with Bob bringing it home with rocking A&A/Good Lovin’, with an upbeat US Blues Encore to suggest more to come manana.
    Nice run opener with any signs of 10/16 hangover gone like an afternoon hair o the dog! Nice show, definitely some kind of release worthy?

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    GOGD: as always thanks for the crack detective work. Quite a scene...I’ve heard Phil be Phil and heckle folks, but that was out right venom. “There is nothing like a GD concert” hee-hee. Can’t believe I’ve never heard about this one?

    JIM: yes agree, according to the charts were over due for both Dave’s and a box for 1972, and were overdue for a 78 Dave’s, but obviously that’s changed. Still wonder about a early 78 box cause ya know those ABCD Beatty’s are getting released someway sometime, and he has been rooting in there. Guessing too close on the heals of the summer 78 box, but after the knuckle balls he’s chucked this year anything is possible, which is great!
    Boy wouldn’t that be great if there was more quality stuff from fall 80, hell any 80 would be sweet, another black hole of underrepresentation! I’ve always felt like it doesn’t add up that ALL the tapes, especially quality multi-tracks could totally disappear? Sumthin don’t smell right? So hope your right! I know Deadvikes wouldn’t be the only one happy about that! Honestly, I think I’d rather have a cherry picked mid sized box than a comprehensive boxilla of all the shows. I know that’s sort of blasphemy, but practically speaking it might make sense...hopefully there’s somethin...

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Doing back to back listens also. Really fun, I had never done this before with these shows. Completely agree with OroB

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I’ve never listened to all six nights of February 1971 Capitol Theater in a row either. I remember 2/20/71 as being very high energy, or was it just my state of mind at that time. Also interesting to note that the dates and days of the week correspond now as they did fifty years ago. I sure listened to 2/19/71 a second go round in the past 36 hours. My feeling at that show fifty years ago was disappointment that Mickey Hart was not there. It’s been looking back and realizing that I was lucky to have seen the original five members live. Same five and a major shift in style from their last time as a five piece band.

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https://kpfa.org/event/dead-to-the-world-marathon/ Today from 9a.m. pst. to 1am pst. KPFA FM listener sponsored radio, holds it annual. Grateful Dead Marathon. David Gans plays unheard tapes from the vault all day, live in studio perfrmances , and guest speakers. 94.1 fm. or listen online, All the information in the link above.

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I ended up listening to this show most of the day... Especially Disc 2!!!! Bring on the April71 box.......Have a good weekend all.... Onward to 2/20/71 Bob t

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Curious what source y’all going with?
I see four on Relisten, they all sound in the same ballpark..

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OB - 116617

I haven't compared, but ol CM is the modern day Trade Mark of Quality IMO.

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What’s up with those 7” Beatty reels?

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Speculating:
To my ears the 2006 Betty's circulating sound like some Dolby application happened (says Dolby A)
the 2011 CM doesn't mention any Dolby info.
Possibly same original source just different transfers.
Charlie would know for sure ;)

EDIT: Could be a personal pref thing, comparably they both sound good. I'm not sure I have the pro jargon for what I'm hearing. But I guess I would say, Miller has more high end / dynamics. But curious how would you describe it?

EDIT2: Now I'm worm holing, but almost sounds like the 2006 is close to clipping as well and potentially a pitch correction needed. Now I'm really curious to hear what you hear ;)

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Both seem ok? I listened to parts of Loser from all four, think the fourth is better than the first, and the third is better still, but the levels are low so I’m going with the Miller. It seems to breath a bit more in the High end like you said, more clear/transparent, the ole difference between a clean window and a dirty window...I.e., you can hear the crowd trying to clap along at the start of Loser better...though the Miller does have some artifacts, but as you say it hsas the Mark just as plain as day, so will hedge our proverbial bets on that horse!
Sounds like somebodies still hungover LOL

Much like George Foreman.. all my kids (and turtles) are named Charlie Miller.

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It was as high energy as I remember being there. I do remember during the end of the New Riders set while they were playing Honky Tonk Woman the crowd was going wild, Bob Weir, Pigpen and Veronica Barnard ( Pigs girlfriend) stood backstage on the right side checking out scene. Bobby was shaking his head in the affirmative. The balcony used to shake during the more rocking songs. 2/21/71 tonight.

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Another fine show but it didn’t quite...? It seemed just a pinch....less? Words aren’t working, it’s a feeling...maybe I was influenced by Bobs opening Hangover comments, cause that’s how it felt (projecting my own experiences); they killed it the night before, now settled in after two big shows, breaking out 7 new tunes, whilst dealing with inter organizational turmoil, it’s Friday night, their in NY, after the big show they relax a tad and blow off steam, perhaps a lot of steam, only to find themselves right back up there before ya know it in a mere few hours and well, time to go to work boys!
It’s subtle, but they seem to have to ease into it slightly, versus turbo charged on all cylinders out the gate?
They start out ok, but the first part of the first set their not quite there yet, good, but not great; a little slop, more tuning issues I.e., Bob in Loser...Bertha and Playin perhaps sound more like new songs then the first two versions. Hard to Handle, similarly to 2/18 is again good, but not quite the preacher come to meetin’ fire and brimstone compared to say some 70 versions?
But by Bird Song they seem to be settling in, like after that first drink/joint and a few tunes under the belt, and away we go. Big Boss then into a nice Cryptical suite, if not the big launchpad it would become, a good rendition of the times I.e., Skull Fuck etc, and they seem to have shook off the cob webs. Another good rookie outing of the Rat, followed by a nice Maggy closer. In some ways I like these Sugar Mags not being the full drawn out beast it could become. They have that more country flavor and like many of these songs, that sorta short and sweet vibe. Like Doc says of these early Bird Songs.
I guess I’d call the second set “status quo”, not in a bad way, just typical songs, played according to the times.
Perhaps some of my feelings about this are situational? Though i might of been influenced by the drop in audio quality from those first two official releases with all that voodoo, I did listen to most of this on the big system versus the first 2 we’re mostly on the lesser living room zone.
Not sure why it’s nagging me to come up with “words” but I can’t, just a feeling. A good show, but I’d take the bling and set list of the first night, and 2/19 overall, so far...
This is where doing the whole run comes in. If I hadn’t moved in order, I might have felt different about this one, so I’m sure much of my “feeling” was influenced by the previous two...
2/21/71: back to the multitrack full treatment goodness!
Onward!

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2 20 is ok, not stratospheric

2 23 71 is stratospheric

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Overall, Relaxed, but in a good way..

The question with these 71 shows for some of us less initiated is; why? Why no more jams, short country or country like songs, etc....why did they stop doing what the proverbial “I” liked (think early 69).
Why, because it’s actually what they need and wanted to do! Lesson here perhaps is to not compare too much between different “dead’s”, but consider what dead THEY were at or after, at that time? The tunes, the length, the tone and style, the AUTHENTICITY they seemed to continually be after with most different styles, sometimes completely so.
So the trap is to not compare styles, or apples to oranges, but rather concentrating on how well they assimulated and perfected the style du jour! Of course it all ended up gumbo style, flavoring the whole.
What ever their current focus, identity or style, without being over the top, they would throw themselves totally into, while always maintaining just a bit of the “old” former styles, until it was time to go furthur, and try something else. That trying to avoid the whole closed in thing JG speaks of...think how much they, especially JG, would delve/deep dive into some of these styles;
Blues
Psychedelic
Folk, Americana
Jazz, free form, just to name a few...and now shoot em up, straight ahead Bakersfield country bar rock. Yee haw pass me a longneck and let’s get rocking!

Cold Rain &Snow opener, followed by a Bobby McGee; tight, but JG hits a few clams, though he has nice feel.
Loser: well played, already not like a new song, except JG solo, still searching for the sound there...
Easy Wind: prime grease, and though he flubs, he actually recovers nicely and improvs outta it. Nice solid, relaxed jam, no ones in a hurry, JGs on now, nothing stratospheric, just G.O. 71 GD!
Playing in the Band: progressing, Phil better every version? See now why they didn’t use any of these shows for Skull Fuck; probably wanted some of the new material on the live album but most of these just weren’t there yet compared to the versions they did use from April...
Luckily we get the multi-track snapshots of this historic little run anyways...Sure we’ll get more... : )
Bertha: progressing nicely. more of the nice relaxed energy versus forced. ....and then....damn tuning.
Eventually, the advent of tuners was a blessed event for them as well as us!
But in the mean time, ahem.
Nice if perhaps apprehensive electric version of Ripple with nice harmonies, including Phil, whom I haven’t noticed so much this run? You can feel the confidence build with the music and with the energy of the crowd.
Lied Cheated: : after perhaps stepping outta their comfort zone a tad, it’s back with some solid straight up, bacon, no chaser! Again that relaxed, confident, comfortable, we own this shit and thus are in no hurry vibe.
Same with another nice countrified Sugar Mag.
Greatest Story: still not fully entraining on this one. Not bad for a new tune though, but another example of the infancy of some of these tunes..
Interestingly, it seems like Garcia’s songs are a bit tighter and more formulated with the band then Bobs new songs...
Nice one 2 punch with rocking JBG to close the set. Rocking, but still that nice in control, what I’ve been calling relaxed vibe, not the frantic, slightly unsteadiness sometimes found

China Cat/Rider: Phun Phil messing with the intro! before they slid into by now an old regular, Really feeling like this version of the band is better served by one drummer. Just as I believe the psychedelic stuff was better with 2 drummers. Nice solid, familiar versions of these including nice Phil harmonies.
Bird Song: smooth and getting smoother by the version.Blows me away that this is only the fourth version!
And it’s got a Cumberland, a second set Cumberland!, though that wasn’t really a thing back then, but boy it’s just right for typing! More settled in/relaxed vibe.PROPER!
King Bee: please pass the napkins cuss there’s a grease hog buzzin’ around my brain! And just like that they tap back into the blues band of yore. And the folk band with, BIODTL by request? is another by now fun, old chestnut. It’s like they’ve done the heavy lifting by this point on a “Sunday” and are just having fun cruising now on some familiar, so easier terrain toward their day off?
RAT; well, maybe not just yet..though by this point it doesn’t sound new. Besides Bob being a little outta tune, it’s pretty damn tight! Another that blows me away knowing this is only the fourth version. Diggin the stand alone versions too.
Trucking: amusingly starts a little slow but they quickly bring up to the M.O. that is this evenings nice relaxed, smooth vibe. A band comfortable with who they are and where there going.
Cool to think several of these Working Mans/AB tunes aren’t really all that old on this night, but already sound like tight old classics.
HA! New York’s got the ways and means, but just won’t let you be, makes me think of ole Strider able to have the means to just hop on the subway, and no big deal head down to the Capitol, but almost gets jumped in the alley!
More of the nice “status quo” of many of the above, on Casey J., and of course got ta keep on moving on up and pushing’ on. Pig Fest!
Like y’all have had your drinks, appts.,soups and salads, but now it’s time for the main corse..the greasy BBQ simmered to fine perfection by this point in time! (I can see BTK drooling out there ; ) ready for some Cherry pie now!
And then, like a 80s brokedown to close a run on a Sunday, a nice UJB, unfortunately marred by the damn tuning issues. It must of been really frustrating to be so hampered, but such was life back then. Guess that’s downside of not hiding behind a wall of distortion like many other guitarist of the time.
When I first heard this show when released last year, I hadn’t heard any of these shows except the 19th. But now that we’re going in order, it fits in just right in the overall flow. Nice Sunday, relaxed, confident, feeling of achievement? Like we did what we had to do, now we get a day off, then 1,2, end of the run and onward.
I’d have a tough time picking wether I liked this one better than the 18th, but I liked it more than the 20, but not as much as the 19th? So far...
Like the band, I’m ready for a day off. Might not listen to any dead at all tomorrow to keep my reference inside this run, but allow a cleanse elsewhere...
But really looking forward to the last 2 on Tuesday and Wednesday as I’ve never heard either.
Until then amigos!

Interesting that in that book of interviews with Jerry by Charles Reich, "A Signpost To New Space", Jerry indicates that he doesn't recognise psychedelic music as being a category in it own right. He quotes Phil, on page 83, as saying " Acid rock is music you listen to when you are high on acid". In which case, 1971 would be just as psychedelic as 1969 if you had taken some before listening.
Personally, not having tripped for decades, I would say that certain records - like "Anthem of the Sun" reactivate sensations for me, while others - like "Skull and Roses", don't. In terms of years, 1968 does it and 1971 doesn't. Still good, though.

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Past two days smorgasbord, 2/20/71. Thoroughly enjoyed on its Saturday 50th anniversary of being there. So I added 2/20/95 Salt Lake City, from my last Grateful Dead shows. Yesterday listened to 2/21/71 50th anniversary of being there and followed up with my very last Grateful Dead concert,2/21/95.
Real interesting contrast and pleasantly surprised how good that Salt Lake City run was. Easy Wind from 2/21/71 sounded like somewhere halfway in the middle from bebop and shy of hip hop with Pigpen witty word play.

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Another great show and I agree OB, it does sound a little more laid back than at least 2/18/71. Wish they didn't drop Easy Wind, always loved it.

How does 6/9/76 Boston Music Hall sound? The last road trips release 4.5.

I just read an interesting write up from Blair Jackson regarding the Road Trips series and why it started. I am guessing many of you know this already, but he stated they started the compilation concept due to very poor sales of the last couple of Dick's Picks and the Dead shows being available on the archive.
They were trying to keep the price low, with two CDs and a bonus disc. They were surprised how much the fans hated this concept and eventually they moved back to full shows.
There is some great music in almost all of these releases and I know I am still busy trying to get my hands on these and all the bonus CDs.

Stay well out there.

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Deadvikes if you don't have the 12/6/73 Cleveland Bonus disc, try to hunt that down. It was from the Denver shows.... Good call for 6/9/76!!! Bob t

Hey Bob t. I do have a digital copy of this bonus disc from a kind soul on this site. The physical copy remains elusive. The release with the bonus disc sells for $300 -400 on the secondary market, way too much for this kid. Love the digital copy and that 46 minute Dark Star is wild.

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Started out the day with a lil 2/23/93.. pretty neat.
Ornette Coleman guesting.
I didn't do the whole show, kicked it off with Lazy River Road.
Sounds like Bolo and his Krewe were there :)

Gonna dust off 2/23/71 after this dip into '93 winds down.

Ahhh... what a trip!

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Strider - soft spot in my heart for the last show of the run on 2/21. i was working in Ootah (pronounciation courtesy of a Zuni colleague) when Jerry died, and when i landed there "for good" next summer i was gifted with a sweet audience of Set II. I love that version of Foolish Heart - a favorite - Jerry's solo is sublime, same glorious energy that i experienced during Foolish Heart in Seattle May '95. and the return of Visions must of been "mind blown" for some (the one on 7/8/95 had me in tears.) Looks to have been a great first set- how can you lose with that Salt Lake City opener?! Broken Arrow and So Many Roads. This show was an excellent choice for the 30 trips box.

looking forward to 2/23/71 later today - that will be a first time listen.

stay safe everyone and enjoy the music. onward!

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Late to the dance and in a hurry....so just went with the CM, which sounded pretty good except for a couple, brief, hiccups...
2/23/71: bit of a creeper...starts a little mellow, PITB sounding a bit more cohesive everyday except for the flub, Big Boss things start gelling more, China-Rider usual fare except JG vocal mistake, Decent McGee, Hot Bertha, Nice Grease, Sorta raunchy Dew, then Mags and KCJ to end the first. Pretty much status quo second set for this run in both selection and performance; mostly good, occasional clam, occasional tuning issues (during the songs, not the before song tuning, though that was a bit much on this recording...like edit!)
Short but sweet Good Lovin’, their still struggling a bit with GSET...but really that’s the only new song that seems that way. PITBs not quite as tight as others, but it’s getting there and it’s been neat hearing Phil figure out his line as the shows progress. ) The rest are hard to believe how together/good they are considering how new they are!
The uuuush NFA-GDTR-NFA and a big Raunchy Rocking JBG to close it. Love dat shit!
I guess I’d rank this one fourth so far, but that’s hard to do as their all close overall, so comes down to preference I guess? This one crept up slower and occasionally stumbled, but built up to typical 71 style end.
Ok, uno mass, mañana!

.....halfway through the first set currently. Got stuck listening to a band called Yo La Tengo. Any of you peeps ever hear of them?

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I think Jesse Jarnow wrote a book about them, so whadya think?

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.....I think they're pretty fuckin' awesome.
Hey, it can't be GOGD 24/7.

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....but I got the joke. Good one lol.
I'm out. See ya manana.

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I never listened to all nights in a row before.
Something about February Grateful Dead blocks of shows. Tradition from past eras. Capitol Theater last go round today. So far it feels like the first three nights were the highest energy. Interesting the original five members played 50 concerts in 1971.

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"the part of the human mind that is capable of transcending animal instincts"

Something I was just thinking of..

Throughout this pandemic I've been talking (more like interacting, in some cases talking), reading, finding and listening to some profoundly intelligent Dead Heads.
I mean really each one of you is fascinating and has something really interesting to say.
It's been striking and I got to thinking, it can't just be a coincidence that so many Dead Heads are really really smart and think more deeply and well... differently, shall we say.
And then it occurred to me...

It's because heads have all raised their level of consciousness.
To go furthur.

Far Out.

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I gave it a good try recently.

Today I am on a forced break from the GD. I have stacked up:

Sky Cries Mary "This Timeless Turning": excellent psychedelia from the early 90s.
Phish "A Live One": a long, long time since I listened to Phish
Pink Floyd "Ummagumma": a psychedelic classic...two discs of mind melt (lime and limpid green, a second scene...)
Velvet Underground (the one with "Candy Says")
Allman Brothers Band Atlanta International Pop Festival (July 1970)

Can I make it through these without listening to disc three of 6/24/83? Hmm...

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Bob mentions the Bomb Scare Threat that night before Cumberland on 2/24/71.

I know Strider and I talked about this a few times.

Sounds like they had to clear out the Capitol Theatre and when they let everybody back in they had even more heads in there than before.

....moving onto the final night of the run.
Psst.....don't tell anyone, but it's got a Cumberland.
Hey!! No spoilers GOGD.
Anyone notice that the final three shows were all 2 hrs and 51 minutes long?

VGUY: but after all the smoke/tuning breaks their down to an hour and a half, ; )

DANE COUNTY: so PF, I take it you like that 6/24/83? Just curious cause I’m not familiar with the less familiar of the Dane County shows. If their good, DANE COUNTY could be a nice little box like Giants, only more years.
* NOTE 2/3/78 already released as DP 18 so that one is out of the mix.
That leaves:
- 2/15/73: Dark Star, HCSS etc
- 10/25/73: DS>>Mind Left Body>>DS, HCSS, WRS etc
- 2/4/79: Shakedown, Heat of Me, LL/Sup, ?
- 12/3/81: S/F, Deep Elem, Baby Blue etc,
- 6/24/83: Shakedown, Far From Me, Candyman, H/S/F, Dew etc

Most folks know about the 2 killer 73s, but I’m not familiar with the 79 show, and that one might not be in the vault?
But we know the 81 show smokes as we covered that here last fall I believe It was? So that leaves the 83 show of which I know nas-sing? So depending on quality and/or tapes, might be a cool little box there! If there are a couple cassette shows in there surly the mighty 73s would make up for it...
Ok Dave, I’ll await payment for my work here, LOL

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2/24/71: can’t explain it but liked this one a tad more then some of the others? Perhaps the “variety” and or song positioning? Also has its own vibe...
I mean it DOES have a Cumberland! 3rd of 4. 3rd of 3 Hard to Handles which was smoooothhh! 2nd of only 2 King Bees, and 2nd of only 8 for the year! Only Minglewood, and 1 of only 2 for the year! And 2nd of only 2 Lovelights.
Another Good Lovin’ to pad the pig menu, recommends extra napkins, cause this shows a bit of a grease fest!
They come outta the gate strong but together and showing nice restraint, no hang over here (hey, tapes rolling gotta try and get em down tight).
More of the new stuff, including interesting Bertha with slight differences with the intro, Phil playing some swirling 60s psychedelic pop licks for a couple seconds. Playing was sounding probably best yet until the miss...and another sorta short Godd Lovin’...well shorter if you remove the drum solo anyway...another all around good first set. Hell this whole run is basically made up of all around good first sets no matter which set it actually is.
Though this second set is different, which besides the performance, has more song variety, which is nice at this point since these shows are pretty repetitive (probably in part because of the tape rolling. You can tell by now what songs their looking to get on the album). Sweet King Bee, rare, fun, sixties style Minglewood, GSET is probably the best of the run and is definitely progressing. Big, (not huuuge ; ) Lovelight closer, along with nice versions of the usual suspects make this a fun one, that to me stands just a hair above some of the rest.
And hey, nothing like a bomb scare to add some excitement. Though nowadays it would be reprehensible to do such a think just to get in, back then you could say it’s kinda funny in that some of us idiots will do almost anything to get in a show!

I’m still high on 2/19, with the Smokestack being the highlight of the whole run for me, I think I’d take 2/21 next and/or 2/18 with that sexy set list, but after that it’s really hard to pick? Perhaps this one by a nose hair?
But no matter what your pleasure tends, it was great to do this run and finally get familiar. It’s always cool to do em in order with no other distractions. Really can hear the subtle, or sometimes not so subtle changes as the shows progress.
Personally the biggest treat was the 3 sick sounding multi-track shows, but some of the archive stuff was pretty damn good too! And of course there’s complete Beatty’s in the vault.
I can see why they didn’t end up using any of this on skullfuck, and now, I don’t think it would of been box material; meaning comparatively to stuff that we will probably get at some point from a little down the road. I’m listening to Ladies and Gentlemen fir the first time in forever, and it’s easily apparent how much more on this material they are after some shows under their belt. Since I’m a tenderfoot in this woods, I’ll leave the speculation of what that future release might look like to those more knowledgeable. I’m sure we’ll see at least some of these Port Chester shows as Dave’s or something as they are ABCD Beatty’s etc...so I think Dave & company took a good route with this run.
Now I’m curious about more of the spring stuff, but not soon lol. I Enjoyed this but need to totally go another direction to avoid burnout etc. Thinking I might hit up the last 3 of four Dave’s as I’ve not spent enough time with any of them...unless...
one of you bastards makes me an offer I can’t refuse here lol!

I lived in the county south of Dane (Rock County....ROCK!!!) until 1980 when my family moved to LA CA.

was too young to see GD while they were so close...

anyway, 6/24/83 was a first listen. so no strong opinions. I broke down and listened to disc three today, but it did nothing for me, even with MDew

I heard 12/3/81 (my 18th birthday...but I was in LA CA) last week
10/25/73...gotta hear that again
2/15/73 yummy

so on and so on

2/24/71 is one that never did anything for me. it just feels so...reserved...to me. give me 2 23 or 2 19 or 2 18, please

Aye an a bit o' mackerel, back-a-racken
Fear 'nd a revit
Din bat-a 'hed 'nd a thoit'
Well i slap'd thea in a flem 'nd din an'a sade
'Nd a creed, creed, creed
'Da fear of fallin' dinga'
Dingan nerver bought 'da raise
And den cread marie'a!
Took equi-epk
Lamoret 'nd a buot
And I roon-doon-doon 'da maken' stye
'N taklin' the fairy hord dat was fallen round de feet
"Never!" de cried "Never shall ye get me alayv
Ya rotten hound of de hondny free
Well I snakd for a blame 'nd a clamore cut and a crust
'Nd i fell dingd befoor 'em ring'st fet
(Sigh)
A roar-e creed!
Frae the bottom of es heart that I would nay
Fall but es deed,
Dead as a can by a feat
Deah...
And the wind cried Mary.

OB:
I think you should listen to the China > Rider, PITB > Drums > Dark Star (with cool themes, you name 'em) > Morning Dew > PITB Reprise, Deal, Promised Land, Brokedown, OMSN, Casey Jones from 10/18/72 before you do that.

Possibly better than anything Dave's released yet?
(Gotcha... I couldn't resist, but now you wanna listen, besides all that's totally subjective and I guess it doesn't really matter.. anyway)

It just kicked my ass!

Yet again.

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trying...trying...Velvet Underground is trying, too

10/18/72 yes
10/28/72 is highly recommended. Cleveland of all places.

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....you might enjoy this band I discovered recently. Yo La Tengo. Might have mentioned them here before (scratches head).
Anywho, they're worth checking out. They have Velvet eyes.

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Nice Proudfoot! Always time to "groove with a Pict!" 🤪 Had a roommate once who'd lapse into loud and fluent Gaelic at the least provocation (such as Several Species). Onward.

GOGD: that’s a bold statement my friend! So yeah, ya got me, ya Bastid! A little too close, a little too soon...but I will check that and the 28th soon. Thanks for the tips guys.

VGUY: berry interesting...only gave it a quick glance. Think the ole lady might like it so I’ll break it out at some point with her. Have you heard enough to recommend a specific album or?

PROUDFOOT: “young man, you will stop this nonsense, and get your work done, or no more Grateful Dead and you can deal with your father when he gets home” ; )

Going Dap 33 as we speak with 35 on deck. Hopefully 36 mañana!....with some of the 72 snuck in there...

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....Electr-O-Pura and I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One are top shelf in my opinion.

Some other albums by YLT you might like:
1. Painful - 1993
2. And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 2000
3. I Am Not Afraid Of You And I Will Beat Your Ass - 2006
4. Popular Songs - 2009
5. Fade - 2013
6. Stuff Like That There - 2015

Have you read about the band name origin?

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Some nice anniversary shows out there today.

Started out the day with the PITB > Terrapin from 2/26/90 which was sounding good, think I need to go back and take in the whole show.
But I jumped over to DiP V28 as I couldn't resist another killer PITB this time '73 style.
And that's where the lil Louie Louie tease before GSET comes in.
(another pal mentioned this this AM, so when it came on, with the memory slipage it's like hearing new things each time!)
Then there's this show that's pretty off the radar 2/26/77.. ;)

And let's not forget the Uptown Theatre in '81 and forgive me I have forgotten what happened at Oakland Coliseum in '94 & '95.

So yeah, there's a full day or so of music there for people to swim through if they so chose to do so.
And I say Phil... My Dog Has No Nose.
Well how does he smell?!?
Blooming Awful.

Happy Friday!