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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2741
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    Hey, rockers!!!

    Pick of the day: Honolulu, Hawaii, January 23, 1970

    Officially released as a Dave’s Pick in August 2016, here we have an interesting look at the band just prior to the classic Fillmore West/East shows of February 1970, when they were still in the process of transitioning from the large jam format to a more song oriented approach.

    Which isn’t to say there aren’t big jams here, because there are. An Other One AND a Dark Star. Plus some new Workingman’s Dead material, cowboy songs, and greasy Pigpen material. Can’t go wrong with all that………..

    It seems that sometimes official releases get shelved, neglected, oft time forgotten. This one is worth revisiting, as is the “bonus material” from the following night (which includes another Black Peter, more Pigpen, and the rare Mason’s Children).

    Farewell, TC……

    As far as official releases go, we can’t always get what we want, but we get what we need……

    Enjoy!!!

    Doc
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    Hey, rockers!!!

    It seems I just can’t stay away. Perhaps I have too much free time on my hands. Maybe I’m just addicted to deadnet…………

    What unfolds now is a series of intermittent, occasional, never predictable but always reverent excursions into the underrated, underappreciated shows of the 1968-1972 era. Follow along as we explore the curvilinear sonic history of the early Grateful Dead. Officially released, as well as not so. No Classics, and no 71s. Gems and duds. The bitter with the sweet……

    Dust off the shelves---and the hard drives---as we revisit so many gems lost in the glare of official releases and Miller remasters…………

    This won’t be an every day thing, maybe three or four times a month, lol until I find something better to do!

    Let’s play!!

    Doc
    Making a comeback is one of the most difficult things to do with dignity……

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    Good way to pop the cherry OB, and you get a Dark Star to boot. Must have been a good experience and the end of another era of the Dead. Aud recording is decent, maybe someday a SB will pop up

    Enjoying 12/30/86 in Oakland Otis. Nice sounding Miller transfer from 2017. Nice Althea, Cumberland, Esau, TMNS to end the first set. China Rider to start the second set. Good call on this one Otis. The return of Jerry and the boys. It only gets better from here.

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    No electronic devices were involved, hey I was just barely 16 and hadn’t even been smoking weed very long lol.
    I didn’t go electric until my tenth show, which I think was a good way to go/grow?
    Hell, I was naturally high! just being there, but plenty more weed than my teeny bopper head had ever seen before lol.
    After going to concerts for a year, and seeing a cross section of radio favorites etc, the Dead blew my perceptions of everything R&R out the window! I’d been getting more and more prepped and ready to see them for over a year and FINALLY got the chance. One of the greatest days of my life!

    Now, it’s kinda a weird show, I mean you can feel the weird energy, which is understandable all things considered. The energy sort of ebbs and flows but often peaks nicely. Kieth is all over the place: sometimes engaged and his usual self, other times you’d swear he wasn’t even there…obviously end of the line, though I didn’t know any all of that back then.
    But overall it has some great peaks, and I love the Other one through drums and that cool little jam with a Serengeti feel, then quick tag of TOO before sliding into DS. Not the greatest show ever,but historically and enjoyably a nice way to get yer cherry popped! Good aud tape too! I d been listening to my shitty digitized cassette version for years and finally heard a much better recording this time around!

    I agree on the Miracle> Bertha> Good Lovin’ theme. It was cool and had nice flow when they first started doing it, but by this point it was starting to feel stale. (not that I knew that then) I was talking to my buddy BOO469 who was in the balcony and he reminded me that the balcony was shaking so hard during Bertha, that the venue was worried and had to have it checked out before allowing another Rock show lol.

    Thanks to y’all for the Xmass suggestions. We’ll check it out.
    BC, I don’t, or didn’t know much about Bill Evans except the Kinda Blue connection. When I had the Ref 3 in to its maker last year, he loaded a couple of Hi Res albums on there and sorta like with the dead: I’d listened, but not really heard, then, lightning struck and we’ve been “diggin’ Bill Evans” big time ever since. Santa brought the Everyone Digs BE, AND the Everybody Still Digs box set, plus the complete Village Vanguard recordings.
    Obviously, I’ve not scratched the surface of that plus a whole stack of other stuff too! Ho, Ho, Ho indeed!
    But like most things, the down side has been less dead, but a full cleanse was needed after the big year last trip round the sun: all the 71s except about a dozen early in the year, a few dozen 81s, a bunch of hot 91s, along with most of the cool picks here, and of course some free range freaking too!
    Looking forward to concentrating on 82, 92, obviously some 72, with a little 67, 77, and 87. But I’m not there yet, have to finish phase one of my music project first, but that’s starting to get really teadious, so I’m going to have to start getting in some shows next week, need more balance, and time lol, now if only I didn’t need to sleep lol.
    ONWARD

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    One hell of a second set. Holy cow.

    Plus.. it's got a Pretty Peggy-O and a Jack Straw first set opener before we even get to the good stuff.

    Predisclosure.. I tire of I need Bertha's Good Lovin'. Sorry.. personal reasons and often a waste of a good Bertha, but this one if spirited and moves along just fine so forgive me.

    But they sure did find their groove upon their return to stage. Sweet second set from start to finish. Really nice show, what a baptism.

    I gotta ask.. were psychedelics involved?

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    That Tacoma Christmas with John Fahey Vol.ll (TAK-7045) has been our favorite non-traditional X-mas album since the mid 80's. Didn't break that out this year though. Found too many traditional various artist hardware/tire store gems the last couple of years at Triple Play Records (G.J.,CO) and the salvation army for a pittance. Love the second side where he gets a little weird with the bent chords on his Christmas Fantasy pts.1 & 2. Never found him until then and only through his assoc. with Leo Kottke. Two amazing guitarists!
    Cheers

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    Alright!

    Good to hear from you all.

    Looks like we have some picks. So 1/20/79 from OB and 12/30/86 from Otis.
    I will work them in in the next couple of days.

    Okay sounds like a plan.

    By the way I believe the 1/18/70 show from Doc was a fooler and a test. As mentioned this show was released as Download Series #2.

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    Happy New Year!!

    Happy New Year!!

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    Happy New Year, Hon!

    Hi all! Checking in from Baltimore! This is my first post of the new year, but I have been lurking and keeping up with the shenanigans around these parts.

    If I may throw out a pick for tomorrow or the next day (if tomorrow has been decided,) then may I humbly suggest 12/30/86? I have been listening to it all week, and I can't seem to get enough. Great SBD recording (esp. for a mid-80s,) great setlist, GREAT ENERGY! The Neville's guest in the 2nd set on an Iko>Man Smart, which is just one of MANY highlights from the show!

    Also, as a Baltimore guy, I really love the artwork for 41, Hon!

    Peace

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    Oro - recently came across a really interesting Bill-Evans-centric article by Steve Silberman: Broken Time - “Nardis” and the Curious History of a Jazz Obsession. Ran in Believer Magazine 2018. Nardis is a Miles Davis composition (you probably knew that.). Have yet to go down the Nardis rabbit hole but plan on it soon.

    My go to Christmas album last couple years was by John Fahey - The New Possibility: john Fahey's Guitar Soli Christmas Album, on CD paired with Christmas with John Fahey Vol. II. Forgot to pull out the Mermens christmas album this year - just might have to do that.

    Buffalo 1/79 you say? First show you say? Maybe see you there!!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 17:09

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God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.