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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #4241
    The Good Ole G…
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    Mid-Set Let It Grow

    Man, they should've always played Mid-Set Let It Grows.

    Just now working my way through 6/20/80.

    Been awhile.

    I took a detour yesterday and did a lil memory refresh with Terrapin > PITB > D > S > Truckin' > Stella from 6/21/80 and it hit the spot! Dig that. Feel like the Stella was really giving me the feels.

    Might have to go through that again :)

    PS - Check out JOTW if you haven't already, it's got a nice little bit of uncirculating filler from 9/6/69 of Casey Jones & ITMH which is worth a listen.

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    If you don’t have another pick

    I’m working my way through 6-26-73 PNW and it’s hitting the spot.

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    :)))

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    GD tractor beam/3rd eye

    That's what got me for sure!

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    Wowsa! Thank You Bluecrow!

    Man I haven’t been hit with the ole GD tractor Beam/third eye in ???...
    This last Dave’s: The BFF Phil show, was similar in that I had no expectations and for whatever reason I really clicked with it. But this is on a different level...
    It’s so funny since I wrote 93 off years ago because of, ...well, basically too lazy and closed minded! I saw only one show 6/13/93, that I thought was perhaps the worse show I’d seen (it wasn’t!) 28 years later, arm chair psychologist I’d say life was changing as it will do, and I needed justification for letting go of such an important/prominent part of my life for so long?
    Well fug all that now as hopefully we’ve been able to lose that dogma and go furthur!
    Also think being much older now, the more relaxed feel that was often the MO of the last era, is now a plus, whereas then only in my thirties, I was accustomed to the more balls to the walls 80s energy, ya know “too much of everything is just enough”, and thus often felt non plussed? Or, more precise: my perception/reference has changed with age...

    And 93 seems to be a good example, as I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the shows I’ve heard recently, especially this one! From the sweet Shakedown opener, nice Wang Dang, sure not 83 bad ass, but still fine and not just the same old, same old Bob tunes. A nice Lazy River, which makes me think to our recent plunge into the Port Chester run that made me realize how when they were breaking out new tunes over the years, the JG ones always seemed more together and gelled quicker than Bobs...lol
    Desolation was/is always a top Dylan or Dead song for me. Though perhaps it lacks the verve of an 89 version, it’s still fine. Decent Ramble On, and then to me, a huge energy drop with Eternity, Still sorta on the fence with this one? Guess I haven’t spent enough time with it yet? Wonder if it would resonate better if it didn’t plod so much? Guess that’s what I remember NOT liking about late era shows; the plodding sometimes...(one thing I don’t like about D&C sometimes)
    But it’s played ok, and followed by a decent set closing Liberty...
    Picasso Moon, for the rocking second set opener. Not sure I ever fully grasped the lyrics to this one, but always liked the flavor and energy. Dig any tunes that let JG rip!
    Crazy Fingers, always a personal favorite, even if not always tight. Perhaps the fragility/delicateness of it makes it prone to occasional turbulence? Perhaps just a litmus test for how together JG and/or the band was on any given occasion? But JG seems on tonight and we get a nice sequence thru Playing and eventually a short but Sweet Dark Star. This devolves nicely into another of those lysergic 90s Drumzzz, with perhaps the biggest surprise (for me) of the final of only 3 ever 2 Soldiers Jam. Like BC said this whole sequence through TOO and sliding into a sweet Days Between is an emotional playground that only the GD could provide.
    This song resonated with me from day one, another instint Hunter/Garcia masterpiece, and though not perfect, another great rendition that once again got this old Sod all choked up!
    NOTE: I also thought “Cabin Boy” in the jam, but was so intrigued I looked it up in Deadbase 10&50 which listed it as the 2 Soldiers jam, which upon further review makes sense. Performed only twice before on 9/22/87 and 9/12/90.
    After a decent Good Lovin’ another big Smile/wow moment with LSD, no not that ; )
    Now I knew it was coming, but since I’m not sure I’ve heard them do it before, (ok, good part of being old/forgetful, I can enjoy movies and shit like I’ve never seen/heard before lol.), really dug it! So Cool, now really bummed I didn’t get to see it : (
    Perhaps that was part of why I became disillusioned in the later years; I was hearing about then playing Dark Stars, and Here Comes SS, and Lucy etc, and after many years of lucking out, all I was getting were what seemed like endless; Sambas, Eternity’s, and harumph, Loooonnngggg, Waaaaaayyyys, wasn’t big on Corina then either. But as I say, thankfully I’m more open to MOST of that now (Sorry Vince...)
    So yeah, after over forty years it’s still nice to get shown the light....! And THAT, to me, is the beauty of this board. To go where not many have gone before, AND find the Golden Yummies!!
    Mission accomplished!
    So big THANKS (again ; ) to Bluecrow!

    Not sure I’ll get to Alaska today? (but another curiosity that hasn’t been sniffed yet)... Lovey’s home so we’re listening to “other” stuff, like some L.S.D. inspired Beatles! No not that! ; )
    Until next time me amigos!

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    It was in this behind the scenes video that Justin Kreutzman shot during The Dead rehearsals.

    That Weir, he's funny!

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    when did Bob say THAT?

    yikes.

    Good way to get a cymbal frisbeed to the head.

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    What has three legs and an asshole on top?

    Either one of those drum stools behind me.

    Hahaha.. Good one Bob.

    Happy Friday!

    PS - Nothing personal drummers, Bob said it.

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    A little Alaska in 1980 sounds good. Let's do it Vguy.

    Good stuff Jim. Hopefully, soon we can all get back to living and making more good stories.

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    First, Alaska is fine with me.

    Next, tales from golden nitrous canister:

    One day in either the late 80's or the early 90's.. we found ourselves waking up early to climb the Middle Teton in Jackson Hole. It's really more of a hard core hike, no roped climbing, but with over 6,000 feet of vertical from the car to the top, planning to go up and down in a single day.. it was a big-en, much of it meandering up and down talus slopes which can and did munch up our footwear, my shoes were shredded by the end of the day.

    Anyway.. and I'm pretty sure this part was my idea.. we decided to bring some party favors for the summit, which included a healthy number of those little nitrous canisters and one of those little balloon screw on thingies. So there were were at just under 13,000 feet having been pretty close to sea level just days earlier giddy with nitrous running through our veins huddled in some contrived stance to escape the wind and ice pellets that were pelting us in the face procrastinating the long hike (slide) down. Now Nitrous can have a wicked effect at these altitudes, it was all we could do to not fall off the mountain.. but it was a giddy high time full of laughter and stories that I will never forget. Somewhere there are pictures commemorating the event (which proved difficult to explain when my parents got a hold of the pics). We left at 4:30 in the morning and got back to the car well after dark to a car with a dead battery. Thank god it was a stick shift so we could push start it. What a grand adventure that was. At one point well into the afternoon still climbing up.. someone asked our fearless leader how much further, his reply.. I'm not sure. Both the other times we did this we all took acid. We knew we were in for a long day.

    Believe it or not, this tale ties neatly into everyone's favorite fun band.. we were on a cross country climbing trip that culminated with a successful attempt at Devil's Tower and we had an off day in the Tetons with nothing planned. Climbing the Grand Teton was a bit more than we had in us so we were going to play it by ear and do something not quite so difficult.

    One of my previous college roommates was rumored to be living in Jackson Hole and I really wanted to hook up with him, so I tried to look him up in the phone book to no avail.. (remember public phones when they used to have these thick phone books wired to the booth). So we got in the night before were were just walking around town checking things out. There was this bar and grilled called the Mangey Moose.. so we stroll by thinking to grab a beer or whatever and we hear the unmistakable sound of a Dead cover band, so we immediately head in. After about a half hour this guy grabs me on the shoulder, my old roommate.. and he puts us all up in the house he was renting (floor and sofa space), takes off the next day and was our tour guide for the hike.

    Just a small detour on a side street and we are back to talking about everyone's favorite fun band, the Grateful Dead. What a small world where you can run into someone you used to be close to but have not contacted in years and randomly run into him 2,000 miles away from home. I bet many of us have similar stories.. we are everywhere!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 17:09

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God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.