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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Germany: Some time traveler here once said my favorite show is the one I just listened to. Now it's Hamburg 4-29. They just keep getting better. Jerry mentions in response to an obvious audience call for something, we'll get to that, this is going to be a record, we have to do some new stuff. An awesome archive for Pig's legacy too. The He's Gone finding it's groove, that doesn't have the vocal harmonies worked out yet and so ends like a Bird Song. Priceless. And the Dark Stars. My pages of note are struck dumb. Paris next!
    Cheers

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    Proper!

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    excellent

    excellent

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    On To Germany

    Starting Beat Club Bremen as I write. Is that Bob doing their own introduction?
    Some omissions in my Deadbase X in these first 6 shows I've done:
    4-11 list omits 2nd encore of One More Sat. Night.
    4-14 list omits a Ramble On Rose between Good Lovin' and NFA.
    4-16 list calls a Me & My Uncle "Uncle John" and omits the TOO jam before that song and after the Caution.
    And now I see Bremen does not list the duplicates omitted in the TV show airing? A studio recording session rather than a concert so it's interesting to hear the restarts and banter.
    This Deadbase was copyright 1997.
    Cheers
    Edit: And one more; 4-24 second set list is out of order and omits the great Jam between Me & My Uncle and Wharf Rat. Now I'm wondering if BITD the available tapes had these mistakes or were some from reordering to fit on CDs later.

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    I thought that Jesse Jarnow book was excellent - one of the best books I've read on the subject.
    There were a few good books on Psychedelia that came out about 5 years ago. A British equivalent to "Heads" might be "Albion Dreaming" by Andy Roberts. "Psychedelia and Other Colours" by Rob Chapman is also excellent, covering both America and Britain.

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    Can you imagine: not only playing for folks who have little or no idea what your about, but also many/most who don’t speak the language! Yet after almost every set and especially at the end, you can hear the crowds love it!
    The power of music, the real language, the real form of communication!
    Amazing!

    EDIT: Heads, is that book any good?
    I have it but haven’t read it yet?

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    Oro.. good job, you must not sleep much.

    DRock, I'm sure you are right. Beyond the few Americans that ventured East for that tour.. most did not fully understand what their tickets brought them. SimonRob was at Bickershaw, not sure if he reads this thread though. I also wonder how prevalent the psychedelic scene was. Jessie Jarnaw speaks a bit about the travelling circus and when / how it evolved in his book, "Heads." Beyond the few that were exposed early on and could afford the travel with no work, it wasn't until a little self-sustaining economy emerged before it became widespread. By 81, a few, but 90 quite a few.. we probably all know one (Lemieux for starters.. still in college)

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    One thing about the European tour in 1972, was that they weren't, as far as I know, playing to Deadheads. I seem to remember one of band said in print that the Newcastle crowd was the coldest one they had ever played to. I would think that most of the people who saw then that night lived in, or fairly near Newcastle itself. Didn't the crowd at one of the shows head for the exit after the first set, assuming that the gig was over? That also suggest an unfamiliarity with The band and their way of doing things.
    If this is true - it certainly didn't harm the music. It may have affected the way they played - and for the better.
    Having said that, I don't know when the Deadhead culture started in America - by which I mean when people travelled the land to see them. Up to a certain point they must have been playing to new people in The States,too. People who had no pre conceived idea of what they were like, but just went along because it was a rock gig. By 1990 everyone at Wembley seemed to be a Deadhead. I can't remember 1981 being quite like that.

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    “Oh ooo, half way there,

    Oh ooo smell my underwear” 🎶

    Yep, just finishing 5/3 for the first time ever, and I still don’t have any damn time.
    So I’ve been listening, sometimes multiple times, in order, but I haven’t had time to keep track.
    Oh well, guess that would be more like actually being on tour.
    4/11 was a first time listen for me. Another great E72 outing but it felt like they let go of the stick a tad after perhaps grabbing it too tight at the Wembleys? I’m guessing back in 72 in some of these locations there wasn’t much media etc. But the bigger gigs, like the first ones at Wembley probably had a level of attention and possibly sales via that attention, that might have made them, aaa, not stressful, but, would definitely like to start right. Add to that the natural energy of itching to play etc, and yeah, can see how Wembley got the freight train and perhaps Newcastle received a more loose presentation? I definitely noticed more miscues, start offs like Jack Straw, Good Lovin, others. Now they all grooved past these brief moments, and delivered fine versions, but maybe they show a loosening that facilitated elsewhere?
    Like an unusual Truckin and jam that covered some cool ground including King Solomon’s teases/coincidences? and some free jazz like moments (think Phil might of been quoting some actual song too?).
    Another sweet suite, including a decent CAT, though I think the 4/26 is perhaps the bar? Nice to hear, especially as a change from the repetitiveness. Same with the even rarer Brokedown!
    4/14s a blur at this point, they start to expand out more I guess, in several ways…
    A nice DS, and a big pork fest ending. All good, but I find others more to my liking?

    4/16, yes, agree, always felt there was something just a little different about this one. Perhaps being such a small informal, perhaps totally away from the spotlight! A brief chance to vibe like the ole daze, perhaps?
    4/17 is just too much of a monster overall. Perhaps why I think this may be the first time I’ve done the whole show in one listen? I have the DVD, and Ive spent time with that 3rd set etc. So that was a treat to be sure! I’ll prolly go back and hit the dvd of there and Bremen after, but for now I want to go in order…
    First time Ive just listened to 4/21, though we saw the Shakedown stream. Actually hit this one a few times. Love the stop and restarts, another cool inside look.
    4/24 is another that feels a little more aaa, whatever the vibe I can’t name is, not stress, or pressure, their certainly having fun, but like Wembley, and the first non English speaking audience gig, that tenseness, yeah, that’s the ticket, tenseness, the good kind!
    I think Phil especially was emotionally invested a tad more in the German gigs, and man does he and the boys take care of bidness! There’s a reason this was the first complete show they released…
    And of course there’s a big reason they released parts of 4/26! Another freight train!
    But I had never down the whole show until now, and was rewarded with good versions obviously left off only due to space required for 2 disc chop job. So that was cool.
    4/29 I think I’ve heard the whole show at least once, I know I’ve heard the second set multiple times, though not the encores, until now! Another sick show and big DS, and a proper Caution Pork fest to close. I’ve really been enjoying the 2 Souls, Chinatowns, amazing Hurts Me Toos etc, but not so much the Good Lovin, Lovelights? Not dislike, just think that stuff doesn’t resonate the same to this old guy as it did the young one lol. Just burnout?
    All good, just really noticing the other goodness more. But the Cautions have always been a big draw for me on this tour, and this one’s a beast.
    5/3 was a first time for me, today. The whole damn show just sounds like the actual E72 album (streamed version)?
    Like the sound of it, it sounds like E72!
    The reverb etc. I’m sure having? 4 I think songs on the album from this show probably has something to do with it, but I kept chuckling about that reoccurring feeling. So many songs on this one could have been on the album. It’s a strong show, and by now you can feel the subtle morphing of band and songs into one that’s taking place over the tour.
    It would be cool to take all the versions of each song and listen to just them in order!
    None more so perhaps than He’s Gone! But that’s a task for another time, which I don’t have enough of to do this proper, let alone all that lol, but at least I’m finally getting to em all and enjoying the ride!
    ONWARD!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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..and so ends a great winter. We are at flood stage and water is just now beginning to creep into the basement (largely cement). With perhaps a three to four foot base in the high country and 50 degrees, we got three inches of rain today and another inch in store before 8 am. Water is just beginning to enter the basement. It's officially a flash flood.

It's going to be a long night.. not that this is terribly unusual.. but always unnerving. Protect vehicle's, the big TV, computer eqpt and the sound system.

So what are the best GD flood songs? The Mighty Flood>Black Snake from 4/18/70 comes to mind.

And so the fun begins and the transition from winter to spring sports. I say who needs sleep anyway...

I do love rain and flood songs and train and railroad songs. It's baked into my being. Perhaps that will drive the pick of the day as much or more than the calendar. But I'm not picky.. so long as it;s good and hopefully GD or at the very least the JGB.

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I wish we could have some of your rain, we have only had a little over 3 inches, we are supposed to have at least 18 inches a year, we are in a terrible drought. I'm afraid the fire danger this year will be extremely high.

Its not by, or covered by The Dead, but "Tupelo" by John Lee Hooker is an amazing flood song. "When The Levee Breaks" by Memphis Minnie-and Led Zeppelin - is also a corker.

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Sending some rain your way.

I only saw the GD twice after 1991, I was simply too busy in that period of my life.. the last show I saw was the rain show. I think 80s fan and a couple others here might have attended too. 6/30/95 Three Rivers Stadium Pittsburgh. Their seventh to the last.

To open the second set:

Set 2:
Rain
Box Of Rain
Samba In The Rain
Looks Like Rain
Terrapin Station
Rhythm Devils

It was fun, not their best. Little did I know Jerry would be dead in less than two months. I wish I had seen more shows but I am content with the ones I did get to see.

Have a great week all.

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Couldn't think of anything clever for my subject line.

6/30/95 might have to dust that off.
I remember in around '97ish my roomate telling me about that show and since I hadn't followed what the Dead were up to throughout most of the '90s, I was pretty interested in hearing their version of Rain as well as the "new songs" that he mentioned.

He talked about how they played Corrina at every show he saw, and I asked, what's that?
He put one on.
I was not overly impressed at what I was hearing.
I didn't dig into collecting 90s dead for quite awhile after that.

Funny.

Dead Air played a sweet upgrade to 9/11 & 9/12/73 last night.
It was kicking my ass.

And.. I stumbled on this today which is a really decent interview piece with Garcia & Weir if you haven't heard it:
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-00-00.interview.90795.flac16

So whose got a pick or are we gonna listen to the Rain show in honor of Jim?

Jim I hope the basement flooding doesn't get worse.

Monday... I'm def dragging my feet.

...It is then. At, but haven’t heard since...
then perhaps I’ll get to that 10/18/72 GOGD rated so highly.

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Far out, I'll cue it up after this obligatory journey through 3/1/69 which is soooooo good.

And I will not compare the two.

OB - Prepare yourself to have your mind blown!! (I can't recall the quality of Pre-China Cat tunes, but man everything from China Cat on rules).

EDIT - I believe this is the first '95 POTD. I know we've talked about '95 but no "official" picks until today.

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What a show! I put this one on my Mt Rushmore of Grateful Dead shows. But what are the other shows that go there ?

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BTK - The other 3 are Epic too! ;)

Jerry really nails it when he said if you put Aoxomoxoa & Live Dead together it gives you a vision of what we were doing at the time.

I add to that, if you put Aoxomoxoa 50th, plus Fillmore West '69 box, Live Dead & 2/11/69 FE together you get a view of what the band was really up to in early '69.

What a cool time for the band.

They'd passed through the late '68 turmoil in the band and Weir & Pigpen had managed to hang on and the band was going furthur.

Great Stuff!

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he was on duty, all the time.
he had the ability to look behind the mirror.
Great personality, sharp minded, he could analyse what's behind the scene.

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There is a quote on the Archive from Dick Latvala, "The best and the most exciting Grateful Dead show ever is without a doubt 2/28/69 Fillmore West". I dig this whole run myself, and 3/1/69 is my favorite, but I believe that all 4 of these shows could be placed on the Mt. Rushmore of greatest Dead shows ever. You would have to carve two more heads for 5/2/70 and 2/14/68.

Crested and beginning to drop. I should have given a full discloser, that Pitt show has some Jerry issues.. still, my last show. Since I have already absorbed what I can from that one.. I might follow BTK's lead and check out 3/1/69. Hope that doesn't offend anyone. I have to agree, if there is a run of shows that has more ferocity and focus than that run, I like to meet it and hang out with it for a while.

Cheers all.. the river is dropping and my pumps did their job. One one minor fiasco, but I did not take a big hit and this one is beginning to be in the rear view mirror.

Man.. I want to get vaccinated.. that would be grand. Setting the dials for 3/1/69 and cracking open a well earned beverage.

Good news.

I don’t have a flood song for you, but how about
River Deep, Mountain High by Burdon/Animals.

I saw a Take Me To The River in Memphis ‘95.

Good joke Vguy.

“It’s gold Jerry, it’s gold.”

Drums/Space in the latter years was usually quite good, and with a nice trippy light show.
And if you pee’d during the pre-Drums Vince song you got to then sit through all of D/S.

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I know it is not the pick of the day, or Grateful Dead but Wow!!! Haven't listened in a while... To quote Weird Science.... "Crazy.... Insane!!!" What a great Knockin on Heaven's Door and Stir it Up..... Volume 7 CD release... if that mean's anything.. Bob t

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It's to bad Bolo didn't find himself at the corner of Sutter & Vaness., but there certainly is some gold left at Post & Stiener.

Looking at Road Trips 4.2 which includes all of April 1, 1988, and part of March 31, 1988. I think this is a solid release.

Ler us know.

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On the jingle-bell rainbow.

Wonder if proud walkers are where white walkers came from?

That George, he's a hoot. I think he dug Robert.
Did those two ever meet... hmmm.

April Fools & Jerry Band sounds fun!

PS - Dug that 6/30/95 show, one of the better shows of that year I would say.
Band sounding like they were enjoying themselves, and the crowd definitely sounded that way.
Far out.

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Good choices Bob and DVikes. I haven't listened to either in years. When I see Mission in the Rain or To Lay Me Down on a setlist, my ears perk up.

I like the artwork on Road Trips 4.2 and there's some interesting songs on those CDs. Ballad of a Thin Man, To Lay Me Down, a good Scarlet Fire, Estimated Eyes.. China Rider, Other One Wharf Rat.. and for good measure it's got a Cumberland.

Happy to see some palate cleansing Garcia Band too!

6/30/95: even better than I remember. I remember on the drive home we thought it had been worth the ten hour R/T drive time, and all enjoyed it, especially because of all the Rain. It was one of those you had to be there. Remember thinking “what are they doing up there” as they seemed to be waiting around with Robbie Taylor on the 2-way radio etc. I still think that between the radar weather station they had at those big outdoor shows, and they had someone out front of the stadium, and the band was waiting for the signal that the front had arrived, like they synchronized with the weather, because you couldn’t have choreographed that better if you were Bob Fosse!
It was a fun show especially due to the adversity, which the band rose above.
Unfortunately the recordings do seem to suck, but no so bad I didn’t enjoy the listen.
So onto 88 today...

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....solid release. Except for the Watchtower on 3.31. It's pretty bad. Skip button territory.

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What VGUY said.
Your not Bob, Bob...

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Have always loved this release and it reminds me of my youth. Ballad of a Thin Man never gets old and I wish they played it more than this show and the other gem from Hampton on 3/27/88.
I know this is a Healy recording but I don't think they ever revealed the source. Was this a Dat cassette? Sound quality is really good and would love to have some other 88 releases to compare it. Not sure when we will get another 1988 release. I liked this year, not as good as 1989, but there were some great shows. The four Alpine shows were a blast, of course I was a 17 year old hoping the train would keep rolling. It sure did for a while!

Bring on the next box release!

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I know zero about this show...sound board on archive... Opens with a Sugaree.... that's about all I can say. Bob t

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Thanks for shining a light on this DV. Been a long while. Great playing and a solid balanced recording by Healy (head and shoulders above most of his work in Spring '87). Really enjoying this listen (quite the raging Other One). Saw the shows in Hampton just prior (as did several others here.) After first night hanging with a dozen folks in motel room and Katie(?- name a little fuzzy 30+ years later) asks the room "What song would you like them to break out tomorrow night?" My choice was To Lay Me Down. Opening notes that night and I'm like OMG and I remember glancing down the row and there's Katie looking right back at me with this big smile on her face. Earlier in the set they played that first Thin Man and that was a crackling Holy Crap moment in itself. Such a powerful run of shows and other than a couple of shows in Pittsburgh my only shows in the East. Glad I got to experience Spaceship Hampton in person - thank you Grateful Dead ticket mail order!
12/28/78 is terra incognita for me also.
I've got a pick for tomorrow if I can beat you early risers!

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12/28/78:
Some times under a rock there’s only worms,...other times there’s gold!
BobT heading into the unknown jungle without bug spray or a flash light!
That’s the spirit!
ONWARD!

4,2: nice release. Some of these RT are pretty sweet. Remember this and the 82 release really surprised me when I got them. Yaasssss a Thin Man AND a Lay Me Down, AAAAND...it’s got a Cumberland!! good times!
BLUECROW bringing back wistful memories, especially about “spaceship Hampton”....siiiiiigggghhhh! I loved that place, the place itself and all the awesome shows I was fortunate to see there,....sighhhh...
Remember being a little disappointed with the year 87. Like they were back and all, but something was missing? Those Hampton 88 shows were like a drink of fresh water, just what the doctor ordered! The boys were back...

EDIT: yeah, BC, put your order in early! That way maybe it will get delivered on time ; )

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Right on. Love that 3/27/88 Hampton show and sounds like it was a blast. More 88 please.

Bluecrow, give us the pick today and we will get it going tomorrow.

Stay well. Sun is out here in MN and mid forties, yeehaw!

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Ditto what everyone is saying. Thanks guys for keeping this rolling. I don't make each and every show, but I try....

I am declaring to day international fun day. Hoping others feel the same.

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Thanks for the green light guys. How about 3-17-93 Landover for tomorrow (3/4)? If this has come up before I missed it (my apologies.) There's a nice Miller board - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1993/03/17?source=99608. FYI - the encore is sandwiched between set I and set II. Spoiler alert - going to mention a few of the tunes below.

Got to thinking about this show last few days. Wasn't at this show but I was surprised to find out my youngest brother was when he joined me out west August '93. I remember Gans playing Set II material on GD Hour shortly after the show and it completely floored me. Garcia plays Handsome Cabin Boy (no lyrics) out of Space (a complete OMG / I can't even...) and then after the Other One its the 3rd ever Days Between. This was my first exposure to Days Between and remember feeling like a portal had opened into another world of myth and dream, just full on spooky and haunting. And its the same to this day. A Hunter/Garcia masterpiece.

I'm not sure my brother even had a beer for this show as he was in midst of exams or some such for law school. He said the energy surge that swept through the crowd (and his body) with the opening notes of the Lucy in the Sky encore was unlike anything he had ever felt.

"Solid" show front to end. No Cumberland, alas, but its got a Desolation Row. Also, an early Lazy River Road, another of the latter songs I really dug. Plus there's a Dark Star :)

Enjoy. Onward.

12/28/78: never would of gone there otherwise, so, glad I did. Nothing mind blowing but another solid Dead show!
And another notch on the proverbial bedpost....
Was Phil Singing backups on Truckin’?

3/17/93 works for me, mañana!

This is a really good show, thanks for the pick Bob t. What did you think?

78, what a year for the Dead. Most really love, including Dave, the first half of 78. Most likely because they feel it maintains the 77 vibe. I have really never felt that based on the releases to date. Great shows, but it really doesn't stack up to 77.
For me, late August through the end of 78 is the best part of the year. The energy just feels so different after they returned from Egypt. And the release of Shakedown Street!
This show is a monster, I will definitely listen to it again soon. The Shakedown is fantastic and the late 78 Estimated Prophets were really groovy, into a short really fast Eyes. And we get a Truckin (Sounds like Phil Oroborous) and Wharf Rat. I will have to check out the previous night as well soon.

Okay, Bluecrow, on to a 93 show for tomorrow. Looking forward to checking that one out.

Thanks all, this has been a great experience.

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....I will not look at the setlist.
12.28.78 has a really good Shakedown and Estimated. Love me a ❤ Of Me as well.
Edit. Whelp. I glanced over bluecrows critique. Lazy River Road you say?

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I look to 2021 as a year of growth. When the E72 box was released.. I listened to each show in sequence, what a blast that was.. virgin listen after blow my mind virgin listen. It was so much fun and I had never done something like this before. From there I kept the torch alive and went in sequence show by show through mid year '78 at which time I got burned out on the whole ordeal. But that journey lasted years and was to me rewarding.

With the Doc Project and the 50th aniv of the '71 shows combined with newly restored Capitol run I am hell bent on listening to '71 in sequence. No reason, just because I think it will be fun, so far so good. I will keep the pace here too, as best I can.

Peace all.

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50th anniversary’s on the days and corresponding dates.
Safari so good. Thoughts on 3/3/71 Fillmore West. Five of the new songs get their west coast debut. March 1971 was when I turned 17. I can’t say enough about how great an era for the Grateful Dead it was. Jerry played several different guitars that year. Also a few personal changes in the band formation.
Somehow the fresh vibe of that exciting year comes through in the recordings.
I need to read Docs work about 1971.

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Gonna Wave To The Curious People's in the Pick Of The Day Forum :)

Good stuff you all!

'88 Hampton sounds dope, and calling TLMD.. nice work BlueCrow.
The 3 nights I spent at Hampton were awesome, have loved that place ever since.
Energy Vortex!

12/28/78 was fun and I agree with DeadVikes observation about the band after Egypt.
I love set 2 of 12/30/78 at the Pauley.. that show rocks!
And then we all know what happens the next night, wow.

And then there's 1971, in which young Strider began to really cut his teeth on this here band.
Another big Wow.
Jim let us know how that '71 journey goes, that's dead-i-cation.
With a thirty year archive of music and the constant upgrades and releases, I have a hard time making it through a whole tour, let alone a whole year.
But we'll see.. maybe someday or maybe not.

However, today... it's 3/17/93
Which I'm glad this came up as I noticed a Soundcheck I didn't have.
Cha-Ching!

Alright, time for some good trouble :)

EDIT: 4 of the newer tunes and a cover bust out. Don't tell me this band ain't got no heart in the '90s ;)

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As has been mentioned Drums > Space really was going some far out places in the final years.

Mickey's trance influences begin to appear and really help with the time traveling.

When Jerry comes in on this Space on 3/17/93 the dynamics of the recording are just about exactly perfect.

I keep thinking it's coming from somewhere else.. but it's right here in my head.

Nice Pick BlueCrow, This is a real cool show, digging it.

Playing In The Band > Dark Star > Drums > Space > Handsome Cabin Boy Jam > The Other One > Days Between

Pretty dope. :)

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...on this forum.

Kudos to the faithful for keepin' this train on the tracks! Y'all are good people.

Looks like Cousins is first with the box set reveal. Sweet!