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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • JimInMD
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    Did someone say snow?

    Was in a big funk over the weekend and into the beginning of the week. Looking back I should have just rolled with it and picked something heavy to listen to and help purge it out of my system. All good now, without valleys there would be no peaks.

    BlueCrow, ouch.. wishing you a complete, speedy and as pain free a recovery as possible. I love Propofol, had surgery when I was young and whatever they used gave a chaotic and freezing cold recovery, with the new stuff you wake up in a dream state like waking from a good nap. Funny.. you're the fourth or fifth person I know that got a hernia from lifting 30 trips / E72. If we get a few more, I think we have a chance at a class action against those bastages at Rhino. First the rock our wallets, then they break our backs and we end up under the knife.

    I left off just as the 71 shows from the Listen to the River Box came up. A shame as I love those shows and they need a revisit.

    They played a bit from 9/25/91 Boston (dickus pickus 17) last night on the radio. That's one great later era Eyes. Floaty and dreamy. Latvala did so much, he really got the ball rolling. I remember exactly where I was when I heard about Dick's Picks volume one.

    Anyway.. thanks for the shoutout. November into early December is perhaps the weirdest time where I live, Fall has come and gone but Winter is not quite ready. It's not until the snow really starts coming that you can do much outside, ice storm yesterday - unless you had ice skates best not leave the house. I like to vacation this time of the year...but....

    So 77 and 85? That should keep us busy.

    BlueCrow, rest up. First show.. I'm making progress. Good and happy vibes to all.

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    Definitely a better line!
    My first inguinal in 1993 they put in the mesh.
    Caused by previous heavy lifting and aggrevated by a ski fall doing the splits in deep moguls at Snow Bowl, Flagstaff AZ. Second set of inguinals in 2009 they took out the mesh and just sewed me tight. Had one on each side and was sagging a bit (that was a freak-out) which I never had on the first one. They say us guys are born with them sometimes and a time bomb of sorts. That second one (pre-sag) was misdiagnosed totally and finally figured out by my cancer Dr. who was looking for swollen lymph glands. Must have had it for at least 3 years and skied my ass off during that time. Would have pain and had to lay down to get it back in place so that was the clue.
    Sorry way TMI, but get it done while you have the insurance Oro. Mom used to say, "After 40 it's patch, patch, patch!".
    Cheers
    Going with the easy one, DP 10 12-29-77 + 12-30 jam.

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    I don’t know..

    Maybe it was the propofol lol.
    I think I broke out that 12/6/73 DS immediately after my last colonoscopy to fully enjoy the lingering effects of the propofol!
    I was gonna tease ya with no lifting any box sets lol.
    But seriously, hope you mend well and get back to the back country adventures soon!

    Curious if you got the mesh that their using even though it’s supposed to be bad?
    (1st show too?)
    I’ve had a herniated navel for years. Didn’t bother me but it’s getting worse last couple years, probably from work, now size of a goofball. Not into unnecessary surgery, but worried it’s gonna need repair sooner than later…
    But currently no doctor, worried about the mesh, and of course we’re on the CDCs most wanted list with the vid again!

    This getting old shit sucks!
    But hey, at least you have some quality GOGD time while you mend!!

    Cleveland’s been on my mind lately. I’ll have to do some intel into some hot Cleveland area shows for possible POTDs as we approach the long dark winter, buurrrrrrr

    But today?
    I’m confused, are we doing 12/29/77 (one of only three Dicks I’m still waiting on realgone) or should I fire up 9/7/85?
    Hell if I quite dinking around, maybe I do both lol
    Anywho, get well BC, stay warm DV, and happy Frie day laddies!

    Oh, yo Jimbo, where you hiding?
    Hopefully just digging the river/outdoors etc…

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    ha - no heavy lifting

    Funny you should mention that IstShow, because one of the discs I brought to spin for the drive is that Cleveland 12/6/73 bonus disc with that 46(?) minute Dark Star. We'll see what happens ;)

    Hope Friday in the mine goes smoothly Oro. I think not 1 but 2 of the 80/81 shows in Cleveland had a Casey Jones which I think was pretty rare in the rotation back in those days. Some lake effect snow maybe?

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    That is funny Bluecrow, I was thinking of this show as well. Dick's #10. The return of China Rider!

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    Perhaps not a snow show, but…how’s bout some crackling 85 to go with the finally Friday energy?
    9/7/85 anyone?

    No snow shows BC, but some dozey rain shows: Toga 84 & 85, Pittsburg 95 etc.
    never saw em past early November and never until March in the spring.
    There was that Richfield cancelation that my cousin went to, but I was going back to school then so was not in show mode.
    Cleveland rocks! Not sure what it is but…
    More later, I gotta git down, to the miiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnneee

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    Take it easy BC

    No heavy lifting like 45 minute PITBs or huge Dark Stars.
    Been there, done that one twice. The second was a double inguinal.
    All tight and tidy for years now. I still limit lifting to 50 lbs. but 35 is probably better. The meds are fun but only for a couple of days.
    Take care, and cheers

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    snow show

    Never had a true snow show with the GD, though first show 2/3/78 was a solid winter icy road show driving over from MN. However had a real fun one 12/29/2000 with the Dark Star Orchestra at the Vic Theatre in Chicago. Brother and friends lived close so we walked. Snowing hard when we got there. Fun show - they played 12/29/1977 with that first return of China>Rider. Walked out afterwards to find the entire city pretty much shut down to traffic. There was cop standing stoically and silent outside the theatre who literally had 4+ inches of fluffy snow on top of his brimmed cap it was coming down so hard. An amazing sight. It was a hoot and just plain beautiful walking up the middle of the street, no traffic, stopping at a couple of bars on the way home. City was digging out for a few days. Guessing Oro or DV might have one or 2 up their sleeves.

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    Snow Shows...Anyone got one that immediately springs to mind? Richfield '93? Not terribly great reviews from what I recall...

    I'll go with Cleveland '79 in the meantime.

    Stay Grateful All! :-)

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    I'm all good DV. Had a great team and it all went smooth, just got to take it easy for a little bit. Woke up this morning a bit freaked out, and had been a little freaked for a bit, but now that's it's in the rear-view mirror glad I went through with it. Had a good friend who could drive me, it's out patient but the hospital won't discharge you on you're own, and then after some 11/29 listening had a great dinner with him and his wife and that really put a good finish to it all. Got a long drive home tomorrow but don't think that will be an issue. Stop and stretch and walk from time to time with some ibuprofen and tylenol rather than the strong stuff.

    So yeah I was maybe 1-1/2 hrs out from discharge and decided to try that Shakedown and it sounded my-t-fine. Having listened to Set II I'll say it's a hot one and the board sounds great and the pain med was maybe a small splash of special sauce in listening to it. That High Time was a real treat dropped in the middle of that pre-drumz and some cool strangeness jammed out towards the end of Eyes. sweet drumz directly into a geat Black Peter. Jerry and the band very much on whole set. Still haven't listened to Set I, but I'll say that Set II was exactly what the doctor ordered, swear to god!! Paging Dr. Shot, Dr. Oro. Dr. Oro and Dr. Shot. Right there on the script: "Relax and listen to some hot Fall '79!"

    I knew some guys who grew up in Cleveland area - long out of touch unfortunately - not sure if they saw this one, but there's a couple other real good theater shows from Cleveland, I think in '80 and '81, that they talked about for sure. Of course there's that one-off Jack-a-Roe show in '78. Yet another midwest rust belt town where the Dead brought the goods time and again. Pretty wild to think that the Dead were playing the very next night at the Stanley, with 12/1 the night after that.

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Wow!

I can't believe all those never-before-heard-of shows have been returned to the Vault.

The Days Between are going to blow all our minds.

And the vision that was planted in my brain

Still remains

Within the sound of silence

You're good people too Bolo.

Now give us a good clue!

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5-12 has been playing in my car.
Some good stuff.
I bet Jim loves that Peggy-O.

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Didn’t do 3-17, but I’m pretty sure I’ve heard it before.
I was at Omni 93, got two Lazy River Roads.
I did run to the bathroom towards the end of Drums the second night and it must have been really hot in there because as I was taking a pee the tiles on the wall in front of my face started melting....
Then had to squeeze through a mass of people in the lobby/concession area who were all saying wah wah wah....
It was very soothing and calming to make it back to my seat and listen to Space.

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Hilarious!
Best laugh all day.

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Space can put people over the top sometimes.
For me it was where I needed to be.
Seemed normal.

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.....nice! I have a few. Once, I got so saucer-eyed, that i feared i couldn't make it to the bathroom by myself, so a friend led me by me holding onto his belt loop. That was the show where I mixed acid and ecstasy if I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure I'm not.

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Better than the time you cracked your head.

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....yup. Don't do nitrous standing on pavement boys and girls. I still have a scar as a souvenir. Irvine Meadows. 4.30.89.

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It's been a while since I listened to 5/12. I will have to check it out. Maybe when things slow down we can add it to the deck.

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Thanks for the pick Bluecrow. Nice sounding recording. Definitely a different vibe in 1993. Lazy River Road is great.
Not the rocking Wang Dang Doodle of say 1990.
When you are the greatest touring band of all time, you wonder what Phil, Bob and the rest of the crew thought of the last few years?
I used to read a lot of books about the Dead in the 80s. Might be time to look into some more recent offerings. One thing for sure, Bob loved to tour.
Would love to have the opportunity to See Dead and Co soon.

Would also love to see some Shoreline shows released. They always seemed to play nice and loose there.

Everybody hang loose.

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Glad folks enjoyed this. The Handsome Cabin Boy Jam > Other One > Days Between sequence is so emotionally powerful for me, really unlike anything else in the Dead canon in how it resonates. Jerry sliding into the Midi tones during Handsome Cabin Boy is so over the top dreamlike beautiful. And then that Days Between . . . . All of this a portal into a fantastical world.

Weekend incoming. On the road today. Be safe. Onward!

First, Alaska is fine with me.

Next, tales from golden nitrous canister:

One day in either the late 80's or the early 90's.. we found ourselves waking up early to climb the Middle Teton in Jackson Hole. It's really more of a hard core hike, no roped climbing, but with over 6,000 feet of vertical from the car to the top, planning to go up and down in a single day.. it was a big-en, much of it meandering up and down talus slopes which can and did munch up our footwear, my shoes were shredded by the end of the day.

Anyway.. and I'm pretty sure this part was my idea.. we decided to bring some party favors for the summit, which included a healthy number of those little nitrous canisters and one of those little balloon screw on thingies. So there were were at just under 13,000 feet having been pretty close to sea level just days earlier giddy with nitrous running through our veins huddled in some contrived stance to escape the wind and ice pellets that were pelting us in the face procrastinating the long hike (slide) down. Now Nitrous can have a wicked effect at these altitudes, it was all we could do to not fall off the mountain.. but it was a giddy high time full of laughter and stories that I will never forget. Somewhere there are pictures commemorating the event (which proved difficult to explain when my parents got a hold of the pics). We left at 4:30 in the morning and got back to the car well after dark to a car with a dead battery. Thank god it was a stick shift so we could push start it. What a grand adventure that was. At one point well into the afternoon still climbing up.. someone asked our fearless leader how much further, his reply.. I'm not sure. Both the other times we did this we all took acid. We knew we were in for a long day.

Believe it or not, this tale ties neatly into everyone's favorite fun band.. we were on a cross country climbing trip that culminated with a successful attempt at Devil's Tower and we had an off day in the Tetons with nothing planned. Climbing the Grand Teton was a bit more than we had in us so we were going to play it by ear and do something not quite so difficult.

One of my previous college roommates was rumored to be living in Jackson Hole and I really wanted to hook up with him, so I tried to look him up in the phone book to no avail.. (remember public phones when they used to have these thick phone books wired to the booth). So we got in the night before were were just walking around town checking things out. There was this bar and grilled called the Mangey Moose.. so we stroll by thinking to grab a beer or whatever and we hear the unmistakable sound of a Dead cover band, so we immediately head in. After about a half hour this guy grabs me on the shoulder, my old roommate.. and he puts us all up in the house he was renting (floor and sofa space), takes off the next day and was our tour guide for the hike.

Just a small detour on a side street and we are back to talking about everyone's favorite fun band, the Grateful Dead. What a small world where you can run into someone you used to be close to but have not contacted in years and randomly run into him 2,000 miles away from home. I bet many of us have similar stories.. we are everywhere!

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A little Alaska in 1980 sounds good. Let's do it Vguy.

Good stuff Jim. Hopefully, soon we can all get back to living and making more good stories.

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What has three legs and an asshole on top?

Either one of those drum stools behind me.

Hahaha.. Good one Bob.

Happy Friday!

PS - Nothing personal drummers, Bob said it.

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It was in this behind the scenes video that Justin Kreutzman shot during The Dead rehearsals.

That Weir, he's funny!

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Man I haven’t been hit with the ole GD tractor Beam/third eye in ???...
This last Dave’s: The BFF Phil show, was similar in that I had no expectations and for whatever reason I really clicked with it. But this is on a different level...
It’s so funny since I wrote 93 off years ago because of, ...well, basically too lazy and closed minded! I saw only one show 6/13/93, that I thought was perhaps the worse show I’d seen (it wasn’t!) 28 years later, arm chair psychologist I’d say life was changing as it will do, and I needed justification for letting go of such an important/prominent part of my life for so long?
Well fug all that now as hopefully we’ve been able to lose that dogma and go furthur!
Also think being much older now, the more relaxed feel that was often the MO of the last era, is now a plus, whereas then only in my thirties, I was accustomed to the more balls to the walls 80s energy, ya know “too much of everything is just enough”, and thus often felt non plussed? Or, more precise: my perception/reference has changed with age...

And 93 seems to be a good example, as I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the shows I’ve heard recently, especially this one! From the sweet Shakedown opener, nice Wang Dang, sure not 83 bad ass, but still fine and not just the same old, same old Bob tunes. A nice Lazy River, which makes me think to our recent plunge into the Port Chester run that made me realize how when they were breaking out new tunes over the years, the JG ones always seemed more together and gelled quicker than Bobs...lol
Desolation was/is always a top Dylan or Dead song for me. Though perhaps it lacks the verve of an 89 version, it’s still fine. Decent Ramble On, and then to me, a huge energy drop with Eternity, Still sorta on the fence with this one? Guess I haven’t spent enough time with it yet? Wonder if it would resonate better if it didn’t plod so much? Guess that’s what I remember NOT liking about late era shows; the plodding sometimes...(one thing I don’t like about D&C sometimes)
But it’s played ok, and followed by a decent set closing Liberty...
Picasso Moon, for the rocking second set opener. Not sure I ever fully grasped the lyrics to this one, but always liked the flavor and energy. Dig any tunes that let JG rip!
Crazy Fingers, always a personal favorite, even if not always tight. Perhaps the fragility/delicateness of it makes it prone to occasional turbulence? Perhaps just a litmus test for how together JG and/or the band was on any given occasion? But JG seems on tonight and we get a nice sequence thru Playing and eventually a short but Sweet Dark Star. This devolves nicely into another of those lysergic 90s Drumzzz, with perhaps the biggest surprise (for me) of the final of only 3 ever 2 Soldiers Jam. Like BC said this whole sequence through TOO and sliding into a sweet Days Between is an emotional playground that only the GD could provide.
This song resonated with me from day one, another instint Hunter/Garcia masterpiece, and though not perfect, another great rendition that once again got this old Sod all choked up!
NOTE: I also thought “Cabin Boy” in the jam, but was so intrigued I looked it up in Deadbase 10&50 which listed it as the 2 Soldiers jam, which upon further review makes sense. Performed only twice before on 9/22/87 and 9/12/90.
After a decent Good Lovin’ another big Smile/wow moment with LSD, no not that ; )
Now I knew it was coming, but since I’m not sure I’ve heard them do it before, (ok, good part of being old/forgetful, I can enjoy movies and shit like I’ve never seen/heard before lol.), really dug it! So Cool, now really bummed I didn’t get to see it : (
Perhaps that was part of why I became disillusioned in the later years; I was hearing about then playing Dark Stars, and Here Comes SS, and Lucy etc, and after many years of lucking out, all I was getting were what seemed like endless; Sambas, Eternity’s, and harumph, Loooonnngggg, Waaaaaayyyys, wasn’t big on Corina then either. But as I say, thankfully I’m more open to MOST of that now (Sorry Vince...)
So yeah, after over forty years it’s still nice to get shown the light....! And THAT, to me, is the beauty of this board. To go where not many have gone before, AND find the Golden Yummies!!
Mission accomplished!
So big THANKS (again ; ) to Bluecrow!

Not sure I’ll get to Alaska today? (but another curiosity that hasn’t been sniffed yet)... Lovey’s home so we’re listening to “other” stuff, like some L.S.D. inspired Beatles! No not that! ; )
Until next time me amigos!

Man, they should've always played Mid-Set Let It Grows.

Just now working my way through 6/20/80.

Been awhile.

I took a detour yesterday and did a lil memory refresh with Terrapin > PITB > D > S > Truckin' > Stella from 6/21/80 and it hit the spot! Dig that. Feel like the Stella was really giving me the feels.

Might have to go through that again :)

PS - Check out JOTW if you haven't already, it's got a nice little bit of uncirculating filler from 9/6/69 of Casey Jones & ITMH which is worth a listen.

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imagine that lol.
Seeing 8/5/79, 6/29/80, 6/21/80, 8/3/82, and 6/26/73,....
Lovey’s at work next two days and I got a house to clean so I’m thinking I’m going all in on the Alaska run; 19, 20, 21.
Though that 82 will need attention at some point. 8/5/79: isn’t that Tigers 2nd show? Always up for some good 79 too.
Not quite ready for early 7os yet...want to leave room for more of Docs 71 pics...
Yeah...Alaska it is for this camper.
ONWARD

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If you get confused just listen to the music play.

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Great shows and will have to continue on with these.

Love these early versions of Easy to Love You. Why did this one disappear until 1990?

June box release?

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1980 in the house.

Didn't do 6/19 but enjoyed 6/20 & 6/21.

Anybody else digging that Stella Blue on 6/21/80?

So, lil gas for the fire... you all still thinking we're getting a 1980 box?

And.. who's got an epic pick for the day?

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Thanks for ending the drought GOGD.

2021 Box Set, yes still think we will be seeing the last five shows of 1980 from the Oakland Arena. Starting on December 26 and ending on December 31. Looks like they had one night off in there and the last night they started with an acoustic set.

Still working my way through these Alaska shows but can be diverted with a good pick.

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Musta been that sweet Alaska bud cause 19s fine and 20s even better. Seemed to come hot right outta the gate on the 20th. Digging the unusual song positions. Still have 21 to do today, but good day for a double header...
That 8/3/82 BC was sportin’ could be good, or is that too much eighties? Personally I’m kinda liking the early 70s fast, which is good because I’m sure we’ll want to hit some of Docs 71 pics along the way...
80 box...well there was that hint...

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The Drought Ender!

12/26 - 12/31/80 huh?
You thinking any video with that?
There's video of 12/30/80, exported the SBD Audio as only Audience circulates.
(Oops, forgot about Tobin MTX which is good, props!)

Interesting.

I'm thinking of 3/30/94 today, last Dark Star, little nod to Dan Healy's leaving the band in '94.
Don't think Dan was FOH by this time, last show 3/6? To lazy to confirm.
But... I already listened to 3/5 & 3/6 and 3/30 looks kinda dope and it's sounding kinda cool too.
So, shall we go?

EDIT: Or what OB said.. took me awhile to be so wordy ;)

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That 1982 show looks interesting. Let's do it. 8/3/82.

Not sure about video in the box, but would love it!

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...Looks like another good place to dip a big toe in the milk of 90s kindness!
Yeah Healys last was 6/6/94...was just reading “Healys last words” from the day before, but don’t think there’s any clues there.
Definitely seems like a “ more to the story” story, than the 2 usual themes: he messed with Bobs mix too much and/or he was giving too many DAT patches etc...probably some of that, substance issues, AND being on the road constantly with the same folks for 25 years can often lead to irreparable internal strife...wish I had more time to pull out the books.

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or not...OR, how bout we take today and tomorrow and finish Alaska, 8/3/82, and 6/30/94 in what ever order and report back tomorrow, and get a fresh pick for Tuesday?

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This 3/30/94 space is trippy!

Yeah, I'm down.
I know the 2nd half of S2 8/3/82 rips, so down to revisit that bad boy.
Mid-Set Let It Grow, was just talking about those...
Funny I was just talking to a homey about 8/6/82 as well.
Coincidence or the universe?!?!

Healy's last words, great interview!
It's a cool vision into Healy's mind, which is deep if you ask me.
The guys that did that interview have a radio show Dead Air, and I think they're revisiting those final Healy shows tonight.
Hopefully they'll talk about what it was like to conduct that interview 27 years ago.
I'm excited to hear the show, and yes.. I'm a geek.

Alright, got some listening to do.
Listening and collecting.
Collecting and listening.

PS - speaking of Stella's check out the 3/30/94 version.. Oh Jer!

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:)))

4 18 86 never heard it
4/19 on cassette
4/21 on cassette but lost methinks
4/22 on disc here at Golden Gardens at Puget Sound

I highly recommend 4/22/86

Addendum
Until they start thriwinsteins

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First RCMH

Decent

No pick, or are posts not showing up?

I’m throwing one out there then, and today is not the anniversary.

3-9-81

Good sounding recording, and I think it’s on the list from years ago that Dave showed when announcing the DaP series, or in an interview. So it must be in the vault.

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Got side tracked yesterday, and didn't get a chance to check out 3/9/81.

Lotsa upgrades and new sources dropping in the Grateful Dead-iverse.

This band that stopped in '95 is constantly still generating music from it's remarkable 30 years.

Speaking of... I'm ready to hear about an official release!

When's that gonna happen? Who's got the scoop?

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Took a couple days off myself. So much time and so little to do. Wait a minute. Strike that. Reverse it.

Any picks yet today?

Random question, I was running errands over the weekend and heard this D&C Help/Slipknot!/Eyes of the World that I want to hear again.. any ideas? While on the subject, there's a lot of pushback regarding D&C. I have one add.. instead of comparing John to Jerry or critiquing John, be careful not to take your ears off Jeff and Oteil. These guys are the real deal and the whole is greater than sum of the parts. Especially in songs like Eyes, Comes a Time, etc.

Anyway.. as you were.

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Jeff and Oteil are the real deal.

Recall that in a Shakedown Stream interview Jeff said that he was a jazz musician that didn’t know any GD songs. He did a good job learning them.

And Oteil has plenty experience from being in ARU and ABB.
Check out Oteil singing Comes A Time and World To Give.

And John isn’t Jerry, he’s John playing GD songs. And he’s pretty good, but not a Jerry replacement. Nobody can be a Jerry replacement.