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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #601
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    I love 81, might have to check out some of those shows Uncle T.
    There are definitely some great shows Post Egypt 78. I am little biased as we start getting more Shakedown Street songs.

    I have 11/1/79 going this morning. What a show and run. Nassau, with a killer Scarlet Fire that appeared as hidden tracks on Dick's 13. Been done before here, but I go back to this run often.

    Haven't heard from Jim or OB on this thread in a while. Hope all is well.

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    I'm really pleased to see so many folks enjoying 12/19/78! It's one of the remarkable things about Grateful Dead history: even those of us who are lifelong fans and who have traded far and wide can still find corners of the vault that we've yet to explore. It's no wonder Dave Lemieux always sounds so excited in his seaside chats; Ali Baba's cave would find itself jealous of the riches hidden within. We can only hope, as Bluecrow observed, that the masters of this show are quietly waiting to be revealed!

    Speaking of December... 30 years ago, a Monday, and I was just getting myself together to get back over to the venue: the San Diego Sports Arena. Acoustics are rubbish in that place; a tumbledown barn half full of square hay would be better. Still, I saw shows from January-December in '93, and in a year of mostly sub-par gigs, the San Diego shows were two of the best that I caught. It was always my experience that the Grateful Dead played well in December.

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    …and that’s right, you heard correctly…

    this week I’m on tour :) it’s 1981, and while this year is curiously under represented with (5) complete shows having been released so far, it’s a “Good Times” to get re-acquainted, and so I’ll be fahkengruven to
    Oakland on 12/26, and Stabler Arena @ Lehigh on 9/25, and onto Indy on 12/5, and then off to Long Beach on 8/28, can’t miss a show in Europe so over to Edinburgh on 9/30, and back to the good old US of A in New Jersey @ Rutgers on 5/15 and remember…

    …Same Happiness Different Tour!

    Peace All!
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    Awesome show Obeah. Thanks for suggesting it. That Stella is beautiful, with the transition into NFA sort of like they've got a musical "foot" in both and that's saying something. Very cool. And a Casey Jones encore? My goodness! Here's hoping, young grasshopper, this one's in the vault and it sees the light of day!

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    The big question as to release (for this and other late '78 early '79 shows) is whether the master soundboards are even in the vault as there seem to be a lot of gaps in what they have. Set II here only circulates as an audience (a really fine one for sure). This show doesn't show up on the list of returned Betty Boards, either as reels or cassettes.

    And for the record - hey now is still alive and well as it DQd most of my original post. I'll get to it eventually.

    Phil is sure belting it out on Trucking!

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    Yeah 1stShow that is a great point. I'd be thrilled to have that 2nd set portion excerpted/released as filler if that's all that the vault holds.

    I've always found '78 fascinating since the Dead's live performances don't follow the conventional narrative often seen when a band is experiencing friction and disunity. For a band that was about to experience a dramatic personnel reshuffle just 2 months later, you wouldn't know it from this night's performance.

    And on that note, it's also interesting that the reviews say that the show was sparsely attended... it seems that sometimes a flat or sparse crowd can impact the band, with the lack of crowd energy translating to a decline in the overall performance, but obviously that didn't happen on this night. I'd be really excited to see something else come out of the vault from this tour or even the January '79 run. All the more especially if that Stella->NFA was destined to be disc 3 filler :)

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    It's a '78! OK, I'm in today.
    Reviews are all good.
    Cheers

    Wow! Impressive show. That Stella NFA transition is so smooth cool. The Truckin' and TOO were totally on theme, didn't stray much but extended nicely. That whole over an hour 2nd set jam is just tight. If the show doesn't get released that alone would make some good filler for a late '78 DaP.

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    I'd love a release of 12/5/71 too!

    I also hope some of the off-the-beaten-track stuff from '78 comes out too. The laryngitis shows from January, for example. And if there was a board in the vault for 12/19/78 -- ohhhh, what a gift! The 45th anniversary is coming up for this, the one and only show played in Mississippi. If you've never heard the Stella Blue->NFA from this show, do yourself a favor and give it a listen. The transition is a thing of joyful, triumphant beauty.

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    as PT Barnum mentioned (and like i was also trying to say) this is the first show after John Lennon was killed. it's a beautiful intense show.

    DV - I plan to check out the Oakland run.

    Was checking out the 6th and 7th from Felt Forum run a couple days ago, as Obeah suggested. In case it wasn't obvious "young grasshopper" = bluecrow in wishing for a release of 12/5.

    and I'm with Oro - less rehash, more unreleased shows!!

    what a relief to not get beaten over the head with hey now this time around. still, built this up in bits and pieces

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    Yeh, the posting here continues to be a huge struggle.

    Love those 80 shows. Bring on Oakland.

    Can't get the rest of the post in.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 10:55

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I hear ya, It was the same for me only in like 77/78. If they would of played locally I could of been on the Big bus a year earlier...such is life.
(Big bus being after seeing live, versus little bus being stuck listening in my teenage room wishing I could see them live!)
EDIT: Ha, think of poor Dave having to go all the way to Harshford with his Ma! Whatever it takes eh!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 11:40

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Awesome “sequence”, interesting Slipknot; JG and Kieth are super tight, but Phil and Bob sit out. Not exactly the kind of song you fake lol.
Sound was all over the place; sometimes great, sometimes things were over saturated...

Ok, who’s up for some extra credit?
How bout 7/7/81? Never have heard the first set, but the second set was a tape fav BITD.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 12:49

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weird

I had the first set on tape, but not the second

5/3/86 plays currently

"justajustajustajusta..."

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 18:05

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That bears choice 'Hard to handle' NEVER gets old.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 19:32

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Low and behold, my Dave's Picks 36 arrived. Long wait.. I had faith it would plop down on my front porch..,, eventually. Thanks to MaryE for the hand delivery.. I saw the EBike pull away.. pig tails flowing under the swirled, dayglow helmet. She turned to look.. and then was gone. Again, many thanks from all of us for all you do.

#1 of 22,000. My lowest number yet. Now I can finally read the liner notes. Wow.. apparently Dave was at this show, far out.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 21:26

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Great news Jim! Finally. Did they throw in some socks for the wait?

#1/22,000, Ha!

6/20/74, good show. Agree OB, the recording is a bit uneven, some parts great, others not as good. Overall B on the sound quality. Seemed kind of a short show for 74. Good pick PF.

Your 81 show for tomorrow OB?
Couldn't make it a two fer today. Hard to keep up with the overachievers.

Okay, so we have a month to go until #38.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 22:37

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Just a coupon for a cup of free hot chocolate.

Edit: I like the socks idea.. colorful, plaid, rainbow or paisley.. I'm all in. Especially the electric kind that blend well with my Birkenstocks.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 05:21

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The first Feel Like A Stranger 41 years ago today. So let me throw 3/31/80 into the ring for today’s pick.
My one time to the Capitol Theater was 1972(?) to see NRPS. Dr John opened the show. Quite the rowdy audience, ha ha.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 06:33

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Glad to hear.

I like to think that TPTB will always make it right, in time.

At least you got a GREAT number!

.... and free socks? Must be those Balboa socks they always advertise on TV. For every pair you buy, you claim every sock that those socks touch and all the socks that those socks touch.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 07:49

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if you haven't heard it yet, Desolation Row > Birdsong is really good.

Far out... dug dusting off 6/20/74.
Ship of Fools sounding so good, man I dig Jerry's voice in '74.
And that Truckin' > Eyes > Slipknot! > China Doll. That's the stuff.
A bit under the radar, especially with all it's towering neighbors.
Speaking of... popped on 6/22/74 Bonus after and that kinda further proves why this 6/20 show might go unnoticed.
Damn!

Alright, you know it's gonna get Stranger huh Strider?

I'm hip for the trip to 3/31/80.

Hot Dog Jim them's some Hot shows in Hartford, love that '87 vibe.

OB I wish I could help with the cartoon.. but you got me.
Not familiar with it, but if you find it, I wanna see it and hear all the deets.

That's all I got.
So let's get on with the show!

Remember kids wood and catheters don't mix!

how bout.....

Woke up with some morning wood today.
Went to pee but the wood would not go away.
Went in the yard and water the plants this way.
When the water past, the wood it went away.

I know, sad humor,,,, if it were good, I'd be selling ice cream!

Love the wood analogies. Doing some home carpentry, so timely humor.

I gotta bump up 6/18 a notch though. One of the all time great Eyes of the World>China Doll and the WRS/TOO/It's a sin something..

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 15:44

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Decent show, good aud...another off the beaten path notch off the list.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 17:38

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So both of them there shows sound killer today.

Nice suggestions PF & Jim.
I'm in June '74 with the Wall of Sound and it's sunny outside.

And anytime you want to suggest a top 5 PITB, I'll take the bait.

Amazing how much presence Phil had in '74.

Edit: 6/16 & 6/18/74 that is.
(Oil that is! Black Gold, Texas T)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 19:06

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One of the great late era songs. I don't think I am alone in saying this tune made sense or had a calming effect on that point in the show where the ceilings and walls become liquid and there is at least a little concern that they might turn to goo and begin dripping down the sides of the coliseum/shed/theatre/area/stadium or wherever the hell you were when the shit really started to hit the fan.

And I love that song for that effect. It's going to be alright, now let's get on with the show.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 19:17

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Goodness.. as funny as I thought my last comment was, it will surely screw up my future run for Senate. In summary, Dr. Proudfoot, deadnet's most beloved scholar.

My edited post pontificated and expanded the meaning of the word Minglewood. Let's just let that post die a graceful death.

Night all.. this is a family channel after all???

Or is it?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 19:47

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4/29/71, 5/15/70, 12/30/79, I like a lot of the 1977 versions also.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 21:47

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I always like Stranger for an opener.

Just for the line... you know it's gonna get stranger...

I always label this in my mind as an "Electric" song. Versus China Doll I classify as a "music box" song.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 22:08

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So many great minglewoods. 5/28/77 comes to mind as well as 10/3/87. But there are so many more. Always a rocker. And the version from Ladies and Gentlemen from April 71 lights it up.
Didn't this appear on Shakedown Street. All new minglewood blues.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 06:26

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with Dr. ProudFoot - 6/16 Playing is one of the greatest. love it love it love it. another favorite from that year is the first October night at Winterland, 10/16.

yes like a moth to the psychedelic flame of '74. that Omni show on 6/20 was new to me too, despite looking at the set list for years in my raggedy ass deadbase. listened yesterday and thought whole show was excellent. yep a little short for the year, some tape wobble and speed issues maybe set II. no matter. Trucking and Eyes were the bomb. Something about the Slipknot jam reminded me of a Celtic fiddle tune, which was not something I've ever associated Slipknot before. The China Doll was gorgeous. hopefully any tape issues can be ironed out for a release.

onward

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 08:13

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Today marks anniversary of my first show. 4-1-80 - Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ.

RAH!

Didn't know shit! It was all a blur. It was loud.

Knowing now what I know, I was very lucky to be at that venue, we had great seats on the floor in a small theater.

Pretty sweet way to start in April of 1980.

41 years ago!

Now if they would just give us a nice 1980 box!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 09:44

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That’s one hell of a start!
That should of been our pick...

STRANGER: always loved a good Stranger opener, especially if plugged in ; )
Like a second set song to open.

So do you think your taking my seat or VGUYS?
I relish the battle ahead, and a new breed of politics. Let’s start with that time you skipped a show to study for a test
Rrrrraaaaabnnnnnnnntttttt, (buzzer sound like when your wrong on a game show! ; )

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 09:56

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Nah, I picture him more like some weird lab rat assistant in a white coat who likes to test the potions, later, after hours, after everyone else has gone home ; )

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:00

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Isn’t that my good twin Oroboros first show? Where is that ole rascally rascal? We haven’t heard from him in a couple years! If your out there, hope your doing well amigo!
Perhaps Dr Proudfoot can conjure up some potion and summon him?

Wish Realgone would re-drop this one, one of the few I don’t have. But I do have the Bonus disk thanks to an unbelievably kind person here!! Thanks again Bra! Still can’t believe how generous that was!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:03

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Hhhmmmmm??? That would make a sweet box!
3 shows from each historic run....
Or is it another clue?
Or is it a fools errand?
Hmmmmmm???

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:36

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Alfred College
Alligator Alley Gymnasium
Aladdin Theater
Academy of Music
Alfond Arena
Alleghany State College

I think Bolo has officially announced the Alphabet Box Series and the end date for vault material releases.

Each year for the 20 (no venues starting with X, Q, Z,...) or so years we will get a box of all releasable shows based on the first letter of the venue, after the alphabet is completely exhausted.. all the worthy shows will have been released, Dave will retire and that's it. This is great news, the "A" box released on October 31st is going to be spectacular.

The down side.. I am going to be old as dust by the time RFK '73 gets released. An alternate box concept is the Everything Box where every show in the vault would be remastered and released as a giant treasure chest. (#StormTheVault #FeeTheReels)

Edit: The final box would be a three show box for Zoo Amphitheatre, 1981, 1982 and 1985.

As for my run for Senate.. My only shot is a devastating scandal followed by resignation.. so long as you two stay away from under age girls while crossing state lines, your seats are safe.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:51

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Glad you added the caveat “across state lines”....that was close!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 11:00

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It’s Marye day so remember to say thanks for all she does for us!
Perhaps everyone should send her a PM NOT complaining about missing product ; )
Or we should get her some batteries for her ebike...those things are costly!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 12:08

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Wholly guacamole batman!
New favorite PITB!
GOGD your Minglewood must still be fully engaged after this one!
"Give me T for texas, yes it's T for Timbuktu, T for piTb,
where the cool lil psychedelic hippie chicks know just what ta do!"

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 14:25

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OB: Followup that PITB with the Eyes > China Doll, WRS > TOO > Stella from 6/18 and you'll have all day Minglewood ;)

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 14:52

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I have the good fortune of having been given a _bunch_ of CDs over the years. At the moment, I am listening to 5/10/69 (Rose Palace, Pasadena CA)

In addition to awesome music, there are some rather unique things that occur.

give it a listen sometime.

Gong Bong, anyone?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 16:58

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Last summer, my son's Prius had its catalytic converter stolen.

three nights ago... my Prius' CC got stolen.

BASTARDS.

If I could get hold of 'em, I'd force feed the thieves brown acid and lock 'em in a room with a non-stop strobe light and nothing but Bobby Goldsboro's greatest hits on repeat.

Luckily, insurance covers all but $100 of the replacement.