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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6781
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    Serendipitous. Most nights, my 12 year old wonders down to watch parts of a movie before he crashes.. tonight we were watching part II of back to the future. Just as I read the post below, they were setting the Delorian to 1985, Back to the Future.

    I love 85.. 82 and 85 are my early 80's go to for a host of reasons. I wrote a post years ago that showed the number of songs played each year and 85 was a big increase from prior years, a shocking increase. I need to dig up some data on this unless someone beats me to it.. but 85 was a burst of fresh, creative energy.

    More on this when I am not so sleepy and buzzed. (shame on me). 85 was a very good year, until Jerry got busted in November.. the precursor to 1986.. but I digress #GlassHalfFull

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    Thanks for all of the 85 show recommendations! I always listen to the sage advice from everyone on here in the comments sections. I have heard that Hershey show once befire so I need to give that, and all of the others that were recommended, a good listen.

    My impression of 85 is that there may not be the long exploratory jams so to speak , but the energy is top notch. I know the energy might have been enhanced, but that was the way I guess. From the few shows I have heard from 85, that energy is contageous and it definitely gets me moving. Great stuff. I am looking forward to going down the 85 rabbit hole.

    Yup, I am definitely on board for an 85 box or a Greek box, or well both.

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    I went 6/14 and 6/15, they were both cool shows. I enjoyed 6/14 more, I went with a good looking babe from work and we drank a whole bunch of wine outside before the show. I would like to see them release a West Coast box set, best of the Frost , Greek , and Ventura. Hopefully they wouldn't leave out any cool shows.

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    I get the feeling they might not be willing to go the extra mile on some of these cassette masters, like they are not sponge worthy or something.

    ..but I could be wrong.

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    6/15&16/85: finished it up 15th this AM. Have had this full show, but only second set of first night, and have never heard the 16th until today! Some what mixed bag like much of 85. “85 is like a box of chocolates, most good, some you get that one ingredient you don’t like, and a few are dosed”) 😎
    Though the first and last nights prolly look more sexy on paper: Keep on Growing, last Stagger Lee 82, last Comes a time 80, Set opening Dew, and the Cryptical etc., I think maybe the second night is the best played overall? And we get a FOTD, scorching Might as Well, and of course yet another sweet She Belongs to Me. I’d definitely say it’s between the first 2, as the last night seems less tight? JG definitely having some issues from like Cryptical on..
    Yes it’s cool as hell to hear it, (though I want to find a Aud version to hear the crowd go nuts, they sure did in Meriwether!) But Jer does not sound very confident so it’s not all it could be. After something going on? Brokedown ends it on a good note at least.
    Yeah, this 16th is a classic 85 roller coaster. Wharf Rat a good example: Jer’s stumbling, but Brents organ and some of Bob and Brents harmonies are amazing. Yeah, shits all over the place sometimes lol.
    Never made it to the Greek, but from all accounts and documentation I imagine it was top shelve, so seeing a weekend of these shows at that venue....I can barely imagine. Well it sure was fun. Haven’t really checked these out in a while (or at all), but my recollection is the heart of the summer tour is more so where the meat and potatoes are? Hope to confirm that as I’m going to try and do this tour starting next weekend. I mean what the hell, it’s the 35 anniversary of probably my favorite?, craziest (definitely), most fun (probably), tour!
    Tonight Vault View 3 I believe it is, from 6/16/90. Hit the last Shoreline 90 mañana, then need some 70s in between, perhaps revisit the 76 box fir a good deep brain scrub, then everybody into the pwuel, cause summer 85 is back and the time is right for dancin in the streets....unless perhaps your African American cause they’ll look ya up for that shit in some places! Harumph!

    EDIT: always glad to have brother Otis along for the ride! The more the merrier eh!

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    OTIS - Glad you're peaking at the Greek with us.

    So upon revisiting these old favorites from Berkeley June '85 I've decided the following:
    Are they the hottest thing ever? No.
    Does Jerry's voice sound pretty shot? Yes.
    Is it the bands 20th Anniversary and despite adversity and multiple challenges do the band rise to meet the occasion? Yes.
    Do they break out Cryptical Envelopment after 13 years of not playing it on the last night of the run? Yes, yes they do.
    Are these 3 shows enjoyable? Definitely.

    Finishing up Night 2 now.. wasn't able to get to it on it's anniversary. And really all 3 nights are cool.

    I'd be slightly disappointed if they chose to release one of these and not the other 2.

    That being said, I'm pretty sure the tapes we have are from the Cassette Master which, as far as we know, is what's in the Vault.

    So the big question, as I see it, would be how much would the plangent process increase the quality?
    And I'd be happy to find out the answer to that question.

    I'm not holding my breath. So in the meantime, I say, dust off or grab these 3 SBDs from your nearest Charlie Miller source and open up a copy of the Taper's Compendium V2 and enjoy a little bootleg box set glory!

    Ain't no time to wait...

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    I know that it has been mentioned numerous times in the past, but it is WAY past due for TPTB to collect these Greek shows, shine em' up, and give us a Greek Box, a la The Giants Box. Looking at their history, they could go in a number of ways. I would like to see maybe 2 boxes, Greek 1: 1981-1985, and Greek 2: 1986-1989. Choose the BEST overall show from each year, 4 shows per box.

    Or, make it a bigger box with all 8? I don't know, but I do know that I want it. Or hell, it looks like they played the Greek 27 times...

    This 85 show is slaying me right now, and I'm only 4 songs into the 1st set! I'm glad Brent eventually got invited to the party 1/2 through "Walkin's Blues" :) Another hot pick!

    Peace

    EDIT: I suppose Box 1 would be 5 shows, not 4... maybe add a fifth show from 86-89 to even it out :)

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    Gratefulhan: what GOGD said! And don’t forget 7/13/85, at least the first set. The band, the hills around them, everything’s on FIRE! If nothing else, be sure to check out 6/27,28,30, but the whole tour is good. Summer 85 is like this nice little oasis between the eras you mention. I’m extremely biased because it was probably my most fun year, but I love the music too, worts and all. There’s something dangerous and exciting. They often really go for it and at times your sure their going to jump the track, but they usually pull it off. I guess it’s they A++ for effort versus safe but perfect execution?

    Ok, have to finish 6/15/85, then the mighty 6/16/85, and later, I’m going fire up the 6/16/90 DVD tonight on the big screen.

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    GRATEFULHAN - There's definitely some good stuff in the early 80s.

    And FWIW, Summer '85 is a blast.

    The 6/24/85 Riverbend release has always been a favorite, but don't stop there.
    6/25 Blossom, 6/27 SPAC, 6/28 Hershey Park, 6/30 & 7/1 Merriweather. A highly recommended tour and a really fun run of tapes.

    And speaking of, today is the anniversary of 6/16/85 and the brief return of Cryptical Envelopment.

    Highly recommended because it's fun!

    DEADVIKES - Calling an '80s release for the next DaP?
    You heard it here first folks!

    OROBOROUS - Dude, dug 6/15/90. Especially that interesting jam after He's Gone into Drums. Fast paced Scarlet > Fire and the opening HSF were tops. Good times!!

    Alright, started up the 6/16/85 show and Bob's talkin' Walkin' Blues and it sounds fresh.. because it is in '85.

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    As I have been acquiring releases in bunches, two of my recent additions are DP 32 (8/7/82) and DP 21 (11/1/85). I haven't been able to give them a proper listen until recently ( a rare benefit of the the COVID-19 lock down). I have to say I liked them both on the first go around. I knew DP 32 was wrought with sound/mixing issues but overall it was a good show. As for 11/1/85, I dug it and I am finding that I am really liking the 85 shows. In comparison to my usual listening of 69-77 or 89-91 eras, they are good shows, different, but still good. I need to check out the Riverbend 6/24/85 show from 30 Trips. I have heard good reviews on that and it also has a Cryptical.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 18:05

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Fargin Ash holes.

It just so happens I am watching one of the better vigilante movies of all time. Coincidence?

I hate theft. I also hate littering. Oh, and I hate fargin ash holes. But enough about hate..

She had rings on her fingers and bells on her shoes.. The MaryE theme song. Happy MaryE Day. Apparently April is acid month too, so there's that.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/02/2021 - 09:03

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8.21.69 Aqua Theatre. Seattle.
Is that a flute I hear in Minglewood and China Cat? Very interesting.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1969/08/21
SHOW NOTES
Casey Jones
Easy Wind
Morning Dew >
High Time
Mama Tried >
Me And My Uncle
New Minglewood Blues* >
China Cat Sunflower* >
Doin' That Rag
Big Boss Man
Sittin' On Top Of The World
Cryptical Envelopment >
Drums >
The Other One >
Dark Star >
Cosmic Charlie
* w/ Gary Larkey on flute....did some research.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 04/02/2021 - 13:45

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Seattle . Checking it.

Almost a year since Bolo started this Pick of the day. I may have listened to more GD in that time frame than any time in my 67 years. Onward !

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/02/2021 - 14:10

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Aho Strider

I think I mighta listened to more GD this year than ever before too.
And that's saying something.

Feels like a good thing :)

Fun to know that there's other cool peeps out there doing this too.

Enjoy rockin' the tunes with you all.

8/21/69 is fun > then I had to time travel back to February '66 for some Garage Dead.
Justa walking the Dog.

Happy Friday!

The Green Lake Aqua Theater (or what's left of it) is about a mile away from my place.

I was way too young, and too far away, to have attended. Believe me, seeing the GD there in 1969 (or any year) would have been mindblowing.

One time I did go sit there and listen to that show on my walkman (cassette).

:)))

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 05:13

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Love the early versions of Casey Jones and Easy Wind. China Cat with a flute player? Algo falta.
4/4/71 tomorrow, from the comfort of my easy chair.
I can enjoy the music and remember the sardine effect. Maybe Manhattan Center was like running the gauntlet

Easy Rider / Easy Wind / easy chair .

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 07:56

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Looking at 3/26/87, first leg of Dave's Picks #36, in honer of Jim finally getting his copy.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 08:47

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Ok DV, I was gonna request 6/22/92, my hundredth show, but ya beat me to it lol.
Perhaps we do that 87, and go 90s for extra credit since I’m guessing many will want to do 50th 4/4/71 mañana?

Today
- 3/26/87
- 6/22/92

Tomorrow
4/4/71

Anyone? Sound like a plan?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 11:35

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Later today will be 3 26 87 for JiminMD's celebration

Did you tip the tortoise?

Sounds good to me guys. I will check out the 92 show later. I finished set 1. So good. I just love desolation row. Bird Song! Come on. To me the 3/26 show is better than 3/27. Maybe the sound, maybe the performance. 100th show OB! Sweet. I will check it out. That is a lot of mileage. Shit, we all miss those days.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 15:07

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Very cool pick. First show after Woodstock(?) Very early Working Mans and Bob Cowboy songs - all of that surprised me. Up front - Casey Jones, Easy Wind, Morning Dew (Mickey on the shimmering gong?!), and High Time!!!! Casey Jones, Easy Wind, High Time are super early sweet versions. I think Pig is hoopin' and hollerin' at times!!

Flute - you guys (VGuy, Strider) are too polite: "very interesting," "algo falta." The flute playing is brutal. Barely made it through New Minglewood and I bailed from China Cat one minute in.

Ca. early '90s lived about 2 miles from Green Lake (Greenwood). Can't imagine dead playing Aqua Theatre. GD show was last rock concert at the venue. Couldn't find any Dead photos, but photos of the Zeppelin playing months earlier are crazy cool and show the interesting stage setting. Per concert poster New Riders opened.

Dead seem aware of a curfew in the precise and very fine show closer sequence of Cryptical > Other One> Cryptical > Dark Star > Cosmic Charlie. Love the last second "post-production" trippy tape speed up in final seconds of Cosmic Charlie.

Senator Oro - 6/16/74 Playing - very glad you dialed that one in. back in the vehicle cassette days that song/tape always got me where I needed to be. Trucking > Nobodys jam > Wharf Rat, Going down The Road to finish Set III (which I picked up a little later) is a fantastic ride.

one of these days maybe 7/18/72??!!

Onward!

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 04/04/2021 - 11:38

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Hey everyone, happy Easter to those that celebrate. So i was making a 400 mile round trip drive last night and 9 o'clock est show on Sirius was 10/1/77 from Portland. I have neglected for some reason... But the transition from Eyes>Dancing..... wow forgot how much cow bell!! Enjoy the day everyone. Bob

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 04/04/2021 - 11:46

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I have on cassette
Sounds really good

Lots of positive energy

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 04/04/2021 - 17:52

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It’s an amazing show. I read my deadbase 50 about Manhattan Center. Many counterfeit tickets were were in the mix. (All three nights) plus a roof entry door was breached and several dozen people got in from (on high) the second night.
I feel bad for anyone who took acid in advance before seeing how packed it was. I seem to remember my friend Theresa being squeezed and lifted off the floor and slowly being moved. I kind of remember the band members looking concerned but calm. I went the 4th and 5th. Looking at my old notes I must have spent the first set of the 4th on the floor near the stage . The balcony was the only place with any kind of room to dance so I spent the second set up there. I believe it was similar the 5th, packed on the floor, the front lobby was packed like a wild party. But again the cavernous balcony had elbow room. After the intensity of being near the stage , packed against 8 strangers and my head melting the balcony seemed like flying into clear skies after heavy turbulence in a thunderstorm. I really enjoyed listening to 4/4/71 today. Morning Dew is stellar , Easy Wind is killer(tempo!) Truckin’ is unique,(pigpen organ!)Good Lovin had me up and dancing. The drum solo is extremely hot. Jazz influence. Also notice in photographs from Manhattan Center Jerry playing the “peanut” guitar made by luthier Rick Turner who worked for Alembic for a few years. Very historic Grateful Dead concerts.
Happy birthday Muddy Waters. Happy Easter.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 04/04/2021 - 17:56

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April 1971 stands with the best month of any in Grateful Dead history.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 04/05/2021 - 08:05

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April '71 def sounds like fun ;)

Strider, way cool memories. Dug reading that. Do you remember talking to Theresa about her experience?

I'd agree with April '71 being a top month.
There's so many top months in years, what a band.

Keep the stories coming my friend.
And 4/5 is getting a spin today on it's anniversary.

I keep hearing about Acid Month.
What's that all about?
Am I supposed to be taking Acid this month?
I mean bicycle day, I get that... but the whole month?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 04/05/2021 - 08:48

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I read that in reference to April 71 in Relix a long time ago.

paraphrase: "Acid Month, when the GD played New York City eight times (Manhattan Center and Fillmore East)"

I bet there was a lot of Acid in NY in April in '71 with the GD in town at the beginning and the end.
So yeah... that makes sense.

LMK if any of you all know the Relix that might be in.

Get your Daily Dose!

4/5/71 down the hatch. Forgot this was the Marmaduke yodel version of Bobby McGee :)

Sweet stuff.

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 04:23

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I'm guessing this is more of a reference to the fact that there may have been a lot of acid about, being taken by people, than to the actual music being played. Which sounds more rootsy than psychedelic to me.

Yes, great times all.

Should we do Dick's 18 to celebrate one year?

In honor of Bolo's first pick.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 07:54

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https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1986/05/11
....because the setlist looks interesting. Frost 5.11.86, but I'm game for anything.

SET 1
Gimme Some Lovin' >
Dancin' In The Street
Never Trust A Woman
Iko Iko
My Brother Esau
It Must Have Been The Roses
Cassidy >
Might As Well
SET 2
Samson & Delilah >
Crazy Fingers >
He's Gone >
Smokestack Lightning >
Drums >
Space >
The Other One >
Comes A Time >
Around & Around >
Not Fade Away
ENCORE
I Need A Miracle >
U.S. Blues

86 has some good energy

calling it up right now

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

It's Been!

What a crazy year. Totally psychedelic and trippy.

Happy One Year Anniversary to the POTD crew, players, contributors and followers.

Good tunes all year long.

Sounds like I'm hearing calls for 5/11/86 & DiP V18

Wonder what this year is going to be like?

working from home

really enjoying being in the place that takes much of my earnings (mortgage...) You just know that some poor schmuck in history has been named Mort Gage.

lots of GD listening while working

extremely grateful (pun intended) that I haven't lost family members to Covidshite

forward, brothers and occasional sister. forward.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 10:05

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Hi, Mort Gage here...why you talkin bout me?

I’m actually about to fire up 4/6/71. I’ve been trying to limp along through as much of 71 and more specifically now, April. But I accidentally swallowed some kind of little piece of paper that fell outta an old record album? Aaaannnndddddd eeeeeeevvvvvvveeeeeerrrrrrr ssssssssiiiiiinnnnnnncccccccccceeeeeeee tttthhhhhhhiiiinnnggggssssss hhhaaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeee bbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnn wwwweeeeeeiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrddddddddd???????????????????

So going there first, then I’ll probably lean towards that 5/11/86. Kinda into or wanna get into some 86 this year.
My way of dealing with Anniversary stuff is I go by 5 year groups. So this year having a 1 for 2021, my anniversary years end in a 1 or 6, so this years anniversaries are 66, 71, 76, 81, 86, and 91. Since that’s a lot of years, I’ve been concentrating on 71 since I’m not too familiar, yet. 81 cause it seems we’ve all been digging 81...and 86, the forgotten year; mostly cause I can’t remember the shows I was at, but also because I sorta wrote it off and forgot that there are lots of good shows that year.
Next criteria is shows I was at and/or official releases, then...........Wild West baby, like perhaps 5/11?
Oh, I am itching to hear DP 18, especially after how much I dug DaP 37, (biggest pleasant surprise in years!),
yet another tour I need to “discover”, but unfortunately Realgone hasn’t re-dropped it yet, and thanks but no thanks about files,( long convoluted nonsense on my part that you don’t wanna hear) but hey, it’s not like I don’t have enough other stuff in the mean time lol.
So far enjoyed, but not high on the Minglewood scale for the first couple nights of Acid month, really looking forward to 4/6 today. Hope to have better listening session than the last couple....
So heeeeyyyyyy Oooooo! Hay! (SNAP)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 12:32

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yes.. he's trouble, but his French Cousin, Forte Closeur takes the cake.

Enjoying the hell out of the Manhattan Center. Just finished 4/5.. I am sure I will start 4/6 but likely won't finish it until tomorrow. It takes half my time just to keep those two prementioned characters from showing up uninvited, which can crush the nicest of buzzes.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 14:00

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for tomorrow? 30 years ago tomorrow was the first show of a three night run in Orlando. Great shows

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 14:28

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It's got a cumberland.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 16:20

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So awesome. I don’t believe I’ve listened to all three Manhattan Center shows in a row before. And on the 50th anniversaries. They sounded so tight.
420 on the west coast.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 04/06/2021 - 21:33

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I had to go back to the first page of this thread and check it out. Great stuff. I have loved the focused listens. It takes a lot of commitment to get through some of these shows. So much to learn and so many great shows. A few clunkers along the way, but not many.
Thanks to the great people on this site that have shared so much fantastic music with me. You know who you are and my collection is getting ridiculous, but I still want more. And I have tried to pay it forward with other members here as well.

Now, if we could just get that 1980 box announcement and we get a 1973 show soon!

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Submitted by jefito on Wed, 04/07/2021 - 07:46

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If you're a Dead Enthusiast, and I'm pretty sure there's several hereabouts, this new should bring a bit of sadness. Rick Harris -- the guy who ran the Thoughts on the Dead blog thing, an irreverent look at an irreverent band, and general thoughts, often mocking, on music, life, and the world, plus poetry, short stories, rants and other curios -- has passed on, at the young age of 46. Spare a thought for a guy who loved the Dead in his own way, and take some time to stroll through his garden of irreverence.

https://www.thoughtsonthedead.com/by-the-waterside-i-will-lay-my-head/

Chugging along...
4/6/71✔️Definitely liked this the best of the three. Though the song list/set lists did contribute to my overall enjoyment, it was as much about the vibe or feel of this show? The playing of the music. I hate to use relaxed because that sounds like too mellow? It sounded like not as much coke and/or booze going on...now I’m not suggesting that that was actually the case, just that that’s what it sounded like...steady, firm, solid, but not manic, yet still able to rock it in overdrive when appropriate I.e., JBG, Casey J, Truckin!
All three shows were good, but imho I thought this one was the standout. Perhaps not full Minglewood but close enough for hourse shoes and hand grenades!

5/11/86✔️Enjoyed this show also, another interesting song/set list, with mostly good performance. Perhaps suffered from the west coast mellow thing? Or was it the tape? Good show, just felt a little...?
Lol, I guess you could say the same thing about this show “sounded like no coke and/or booze” lol.
Hey, I’m just trying to find the right words to convey a feeling so don’t murder me ; )
Anywho, time today for another double header!
4/7/71 up first then ????
91 Orlando???

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 04/07/2021 - 09:13

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then later will do more of 5/13/73

5/13/73: it will be a glorious day when the ultra-crisp soundboard of that show emerges

MAY 73: A BOX FOR THE AGES!!! C'MON DAVE!!!!!!!