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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 9, 2021 - 10:01am

#311

Dennis

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Chuck McCann...

.... little Dennis dancing around Grandma's kitchen.....

Gray skies are gonna clear up, Put on a happy face;
Brush off the clouds and cheer up, Put on a happy face.
Take off the gloomy mask of tragedy, It's not your style
You'll look so good that you'll be glad Ya' decide to smile!

Pick out a pleasant outlook, Stick out that noble chin;
Wipe off that "full of doubt" look, Slap on a happy grin!
And spread sunshine all over the place, Just put on a happy face!
And if you're feeling cross and bitterish Don't sit and whine
Think of banana split and licorice And you'll feel fine

I knew a girl so glooming She'd never laugh or sing
She wouldn't listen to me Now she's a mean old thing
So spread sunshine all over the place
Just put on a happy face

.... I think I understood you perfect Strider,,,, Ramble on! :-)

PS - Did your brother become a New Seeker?
July 9, 2021 - 9:41am

#312

JimInMD

Joined:
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Good Job

You did a great job, DHBrewer.. no wrong or right answers here, just individual streams of consciousness.

12" Pianist.. Ha.. didn't see that coming.
July 9, 2021 - 9:35am

#313

That Mike

Joined:
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A Man Walks Into Dead.Net

PF - There are so many variations on the “guy walks into a bar” jokes, that no matter if you’ve invited the Church choir over for a barbecue, or you are with your buddies, you have a good one or two!

Gary - I’m glad you found the book. Her story is more - shall we say, nuanced - than what we may publicly know about Cassady, and the Beats, in general. She was a saint to put up with the guy.

Strider - That is a very cool Kruschev story! That tops my most “I’ve met” or “I once saw” stories!

Jack - Wise to cover all the bases as far as Dead eras goes, but with a band that has their legacy, as others have rightly mentioned, picking only four for Mt Rushmore is subjective, and challenging. Maybe instead of Mt Rushmore, we have a white board Menu board, where the Daily Special is constantly changing. “Today, serving 7/8/78, with one choice of side. Drinks extra!”
July 9, 2021 - 9:17am

#314

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

Genie with hearing issues

The version I know involves a guy with a golfball sized noggin. He had asked a magical mermaid for

a
little
head

(uproarious laughter)
July 9, 2021 - 8:49am

#315

Gary Farseer

Joined:
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Hey Mike

Thanks for the tidbit about Carolyn!. Book on the way.

More later,

G
July 9, 2021 - 8:19am

#316

Strider 808808

Joined:
June 20, 2007

Friday September 18, 1959 Nikita Khrushchev

Forrest Gump moment . My grandmother on my moms side of the family had a farm in Briarcliff Manor, New York State. In 1959 Khrushchev was visiting the United States. On September 18, 1959 he drove in a motorcade from New York City to Hyde Park to visit Elenor Roosevelt. My grandmothers farm was right next to whatever the name of that parkway was. So I and my family all gathered less than 100’ from the entrance to the farm and saw the motorcade drive by. Being the five year old wag I was I asked, “was that Khrushchev on one of the motorcycles?”
Marlon Brando and Lee Marvin in “The Wild Ones” was still looming large in the collective psyche of America.
Jack Kerouac lived in Northport, New York on Long Island from August 1959 to April 1961. As my family moved over to Con-etiquette in 1960 I lived less than 10 miles from Jack, his mum and his cat. Well I was a pint sized hep cat for six. And by the end of the 6-tees I was a regular aficionado of muggles (the mean green, not Harry Potter) or boo. I hadn’t got hip to the Mezz yet but had done a Stan Laurel impersonation on the Chuck McCann Show while still in the 4th grade.
The succession of tea down the pike was Rabbit turned on one of the Poet Laureates from West Virginia to his first THC , who in turn turned on my brother to his first time who at the very least influenced me to become a seeker (not the Australian pop / folk group -1962) but it was Nantucket surfer Murphy who ignited that first spark and flash and majestic buzz that echoed from then and there all the way to this here and now and on into eternity (quien sabe?).My first buzz with big Ben was while listening to the first Led Zeppelin album (the band not the Hindenburg) for my first time, Presidents Holiday 1969.
Dear readers , if you’ve made it this far with my east coast upbringing literate ramble , you are probably wondering “what the fuck does this have to do with the Grateful Dead.” As Jerry said,” I identify more with the Beats than with the ....” Phil in the blanks however you’re moved.

“I went into a restaurant lookin’ for the cook
I told them I was an editor of a famous etiquette book
The waitress he was handsome, he wore a powder blue cape
I ordered some suzette, I said , “could you please make that crepe?”
Just the then the whole kitchen exploded from boilin’ fat.
Food was flyin’ everywhere, I left without my hat

Bob Dylan’s 115th dream

Maybe Nikitas ( the Communist , not the hockey player) shoe moment was what initiated the shoe phone for Maxwell , the Smart guy. 99 was an 11.
I can say I know Jack now but 60 plus years ago I only knew motorcycles, huge American cars and my favorite, trains. Read “October in the Railroad Earth” , the short story, not the band.
July 9, 2021 - 8:04am

#317

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Rushmore

My initial post never made it, so a few quick comments.

The problem with Rushmore is that unlike Dead shows, we still get new presidents. We will likely have a transformational president in the future worthy of inclusion, but he/she will never make it. The project began in 1927 and was completed in 1941. Teddy Roosevelt is up there whereas FDR is a far more worthy president, in my opinion. He simply became president after the fact. To me Teddy is like Cornell. Yeah, he is up there but there are likely better choices.

I look at it this way. One show from FW69 needs to be there as does one from E72. You can pick your own, but I favor 2/27/69 and 5/3/72. Any from FW69 are fine as are 4/8/72 and 5/26/72.

Not to sound like a homer, but I am with Doc on 74. It needs to be there and Providence would be my choice.

That leaves one. 77 will get the nod from most. Cornell gets lots of love, but I would go with either 5/22/77 or 5/25/77.

My fourth choice would be 6/24/70.
July 9, 2021 - 6:53am

#318

That Mike

Joined:
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Gary & The Beats

Gary - If you are delving into the writings of the Beats, especially Kerouac and Cassady, I highly recommend Carolyn Cassady’s “Off The Road”, if you can find it (not sure it’s still in print). It is a peak behind the curtain, so to speak. Another great read is Neal Cassady’s “The First Third”. I thought Cassady merely this cartoonish character of lore through the Beats, the Pranksters, and the Dead, but he actually was a pretty decent writer. I personally couldn’t get into Burroughs, never fan of the heroin scene and the gray shade it put on his writing, but Kerouac is something else!

Angry Jack, VGuy - Agreed, that final series was poor entertainment. It was pre-ordained who was getting the Cup, pretty anti climatic.

PPS - For all who have weighed in, this new Garcia release is one of the better recent ones! I am not a vinyl guy, but sorry for those that are. I know I collect music through Neil Young’s site, and he is constantly beating the drum about vinyl pressing problems, tons of delays.
July 9, 2021 - 6:47am

#319

That Mike

Joined:
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Nothing like repeating yourself!

So let me fill it with a joke, as it’s been a long week for all:

A man walks into a bar and sees his friend sitting beside a 12-inch pianist. He says to his friend, “That’s amazing. Where did he come from?”
The friend pulls out an old lamp and tells him the genie inside will grant him one wish. The man rubs the bottle, and to his amazement, a puff of purple smoke spews out and slowly collects in the form of a genie. In a booming voice the genie tells the man he has but one wish.
The man thinks and says, “I wish I had a million bucks.” All of a sudden the bar is filled with ducks, bursting from the door and the windows, standing on top of the bar, dunking their heads into people’s drinks.
“What just happened?!” the guy asks. His friend replies, “I know. Did you really think I wanted a 12-inch pianist?”
July 9, 2021 - 6:26am

#320

drpryan

Joined:
June 9, 2007

JGB RSD july 17th release

Okay maybe not in line with this forum but it is about Jerry music
JGB vinyl No longer coming out on RSD july17th.. Garcia family announced
According to a statement posted on the official Jerry Garcia social media pages, the first pressings that arrived from the vinyl manufacturer were not in line with the quality presented on test pressings. The Jerry Garcia Family noted that the pressing’s fidelity was “a clear deviation from the standards we’ve set for our releases.” So instead of the originally planned limited pressing of 7,500 copies, the JGF has decided that “A full repressing is our only acceptable path forward.”

“While we’re disappointed we won’t have this collection to share on Record Store Day, we’re committed to taking the time to ensure the music sounds just right (as Bobby would say),” the statement read.
As a result of this unexpected delay, Jerry Garcia Band will not be ready in time for July 17th. The Jerry Garcia Family noted that it does not have a timeline for the release, but intends to complete the repressing in time for the end of the year. So even though the delay in arrival is not ideal for fans, the decision to go with a full repressing for the album will ultimately result in more copies made available to more fans.
Bad news it is not coming out on 17 July. Everyone who has the CD will agree this is a monster show. Good news when it does come out it may not be limited so the greedy ebayers will lose out. Let the music play for everyone
Drp out

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

First in line!....

....i waited all night to get front row tix.

Let the Good Times Roll...

Cannot wait for the Seaside Chat!!!

Woohoo

Security was not, front row! Woohoo!

How will Dave make us laugh/smile this time ; )

Glass ordered....

....and I caved and got the shirt too. Figuring how a probably saved a lot of money the past year by not going to concerts, I figured I would splurge on myself. Shirt looks cool.

Subscribers bonus disc bonus

I got a bonus sticker with the bonus disc.

Been Waiting for This One

Gave #37 a re-listen last night, really looking forward to this one though. Long tent pole show, first in a while.....

Doooaaahhh!

Dave you b******d, didn’t even give us a crumb, LOL.
Just “it’s gonna be a good year”, ssssshhheeeoooottt, it’s May already,
some of us might not make it ; )

In the mean time, I do luvs me sum 73!

Cover/Weather Girl

Lol, thought that was Ann Coulter...

Hah

It does look like Ann "Skelletor" Coulter...lol

#38: An Excellent Choice, Indeed...

An excellent choice, Dave. Best guitar separation of Bobby and Jerry ever. Ramble On Rose, as noted, really highlights.

Bobby is best heard with a piano rather than an organ, which almost totally washes all his chord comping. No crowd noise either.

As I said at the beginning, excellent choice, Dave. What else ya got?

Byrd

High hopes for this one

I'm looking forward to this release more than I have any other for quite some time. I think the fact that I didn't subscribe meant that I might miss out - so when my payment finally went through I felt more appreciative than I normally do

9/7/73 Song List

Can someone who has received theirs please share with us the song list?
Sounds like potentially a couple hours worth...though if you add the 2 9/7 songs listed on the track listing for DaP 38, that’s about 32 minutes. The written description near page bottom says about 35 minutes, and Dave says about 40 minutes...yes I am greedy and want every luscious moment I can get ; )

Listen Up!

Listening party soundz a lot like DP #37...

Listen up

I haven’t listened but it looked funny; like, where’s the Candyman?
Ooopppss

Giddyup

Always nice to have these new releases going into a weekend so they can get their due (Dew?)
Bonus disc is niiiiiice.

Also got mine in a very tightly sealed carboard box, which was in a green plastic bag. No chance it could get accidentally damaged or wet unless it was a steamroller. So odd there are clearly differing levels of attention in this detail as they go out.

Sixtus

glass ordered!!!

glad i caught this one.

well here it is!

Ok...got mine today...will give 'er a spin...one thing though...I noticed for # 37 and the new one that they now ship in flimsy plastic mailers that offer no protection...previously we were getting them in small sturdy cardboard mailers...I'm afraid that with these plastic bags someone is going to get a damaged set...just my two centavos...excuse me now...gotta spin this before wifey gets home from work...

Nappy

My DaP 38 was in a cardboard box which was then in a plastic bag.

Oro,
Most of Set 2 is on the bonus disc (I think, don’t have it in front of me). Bird Song is filler on CD2 and Playing is filler on CD3.

Edit:
There are 2 Stella Blues too. Played two nights in a row.

Wrong Listening Party sample

The Listening Party - nice though it is - consists of, as remarked earlier, tracks from DP 37, to wit, Let It Grow, Deal (end of set 1), and Candyman (track 3 from set 2).

But as my copy of DP 38 hasn't arrived yet, I'd like to hear the WRS, Ramble On Rose, and He's Gone.

No Shipping Notice Blues

38 is now on sale to the general public and still no shipping notification for me in Denver. Don’t leave me hanging Dave! Excited for this release

me too MDA

wheeeeeerezzzzz my copy???

gimme gimme gimme
I need some more
gimme gimme gimme
don't ask what for

listening party....

....i think they posted the wrong show.
edit. Ah. I see some of you have already noticed this.

It would be a really nice t…

It would be a really nice t-shirt too, if it didn’t have Dave’s name plastered across the front. Is it a Grateful Dead t-shirt or a Dave t-shirt? Who the fuck knows? Take your pick.

Sound

O.K. I gave it a second lesson on a different stereo system altogether. The first was with four speaker surround-sound, the second with just floorstanding speakers. I can still hear some kind of distortion or something going on. At first I thought it was the cymbals being too high in the mix. Not sure what it is.

Overall an excellent release. But, the sound quality keeps it below DaP5.

Wrong Listening Party Tracks

I'm calling BS on the listening party tracks. The LIG is clearly from '77 era shows. And the other two tracks [ROR/He's Gone] don't match what's actually included in the stream. What do I win Jim?

audio issues

Very brief comment, as I have only had a chance to listen to first disc... the distortion I hear most shows up most clearly on some vocals, for example, esp. Jerry on Sugaree... mikes seem to be bit over modulated, levels a tad too high. The sibilants (Shake... juSt... Sugaree... ) usually will show it, could be a too close encounter with the mike, because its not heard on all sibilants... just SSSSSayin'

Seaside Chat

Is that a Taylor Swift t-shirt underneath there?

After looking thru all the…

After looking thru all the stuff in the Store, I think a name change to the Daveful Dead is probably in order. We never had an Owsley, Candalario, Healy, Betty, Bob, Bobby, Jerry, Phil, Billy, Mickey, etc., Dead, but hey, now, times change and who the hell will all be around to argue once the lawyers are done.

The second part of the…

The second part of the listening party (Deal, Candyman) might be from Dave's Picks vol. 37!
In this very moment I realize Deadeasy posted the same!
Well in 2 hours it's May here in europe!
Love
RNB

Double twist when you hit the air

Bonus disc filler Schwing

Bird Song ** Playing in The Band
Let It Grow -> Stella Blue
Truckin -> Drums -> The Other One Jam -> Eyes of the World -> Sugar Magnolia

Probably one or two more songs with the big jams. There's a lot of good stuff from 9/7/73 first set. Hopefully it's a couple of these They Love Each other El Paso or Row Jimmy Looks Like Rain back to back combo. There's been some smoking jams from 1973 on the tapers section here recently and these two nights at Nassau Coliseum have some of that same stardust

Great art!

Love the nod to David Byrd’s poster for the Nassau shows in March on the 15th & 16th, (and then a third night on the 19th not mentioned on the poster), with the folks in the background! He’s Truckin’ and She’s Posin’ as Byrd’s poster says next to these same characters! Excellent work Helen Kennedy!

Thanks Conkid/mbarilla

....was hoping Here Comes SS might of made it : (

Liner Notes

I have known Jay Kerley for going on 50 years. The man is in the know. Pretty sure I went to more Dead concerts over the years with Jay than anyone. Big up!

Oops, my bad...it IS in a…

Oops, my bad...it IS in a cardboard box inside the plastic bag...duh on me...

The Deal on that listening…

The Deal on that listening party, sure sound a lot like something from say 1978 when Donna is screeching towards the end of the song. I've never heard that in prior years and certainly not 1973.

Listening Party is fixed now

Thankfully. Just finished it. Gorgeous He's Gone and Ramble On Rose, and a mighty fine debut of Weather Report Suite. Always been a fan of the whole thing more than what I feel is more abrupt and incomplete Let It Grow. Which, I still would have been pumped for a Let It Grow, especially set closer, but my introduction to the song was Jazz is Dead in 1999 when I heard their ripping jazz fusion instrumental version with Jimmy Herring playing the vocal lines, as well as searing leads and rapidfire rhythm https://youtu.be/UzpeMhtxrF4
I was blown away. Within the year, I happened upon the newly released Dick' Picks 14, which apparently was the last one to come out while Dick was still around, and here was 4cds of this band I had some familiarity with (Cornell, 3/1/69, 9/3/77), and here were 2 shows from an era I didn't have with songs I had just gotten to know in an instrumental jazz fusion fashion. And this set had not one, but two versions, and two Playing in the Bands, and opened and ended with Morning Dew. All there at Best Buy for like 25 bucks. So, made the easy call, and while I enjoyed the set a lot, it didn't initiate the deep dive into the Dead that took about a decade to really commence. And by that point I was catching up on DiP 12 with the monster WRS> Jam> US Blues, and the Winterland '73 box with its three excellent WRSuites, so this release is right in my wheelhouse. Can't wait for it to arrive. Received a shipping notice about 1am, still no tracking, but one can hope it's already out and about looking for me. The Listening Party was a good snack...

Oh, and was able to get another glass, so two for two thus far, and also got the shirt. Liked the look of it, and it not having a skull on it may allow me to wear around the wife without her pointing out the shirt I have on has a skeleton on it.

alvarhanso's wife....

....reminds me of my wife.

Eyes

The eyes from the bonus disk is real fine. Jerry really hits the high notes at the 16:55 minute mark. I also picked up the t-shirt which I love. P.S.- Is it me or does the crow on the bonus disk have a couple of claws twisted 180° in the wrong direction?

Not to spoil the party or anything....

....but RIP Tony Markellis. Bass player for the Trey Anastasio Band and others.

I do like 1973 ...

But I was initially hoping for an official release of 6-9 and 10-73, which would be swell!

Maybe Dick Latvala didn't think it was that good but a lot of other heads, me included, seems to think so. I have a tape of 6-10-73 since 1985 but a bit muddy sounded and not in chronological order. It would be great to have it in order mastered by Jeffrey Norman. Including the third set with the Allmans of course. :-)

But I will appreciate DP 38 for the time being. ;-)
It was shipped on April 23rd and will hopefully be here before the end of May, or at least early June. :-)

Micke Östlund,
Växjö, Sweden

Hey!

For the 50th anniversary of the Europe 72 tour I'd like to see the powers that be select a few of the shows and apply all of the new technology available to enhance the sound quality (Plangent etc...) of these shows. (Give Jeffrey some time). I'd buy it.

Tony Markellis

RIP, Mr. Markellis. That man could lay down some grooves. Love bass players that can really grove and dance on the bass.

Taylor Swift, too funny.

But it does look like her, dang Dave, gone Madonna on us?

Thanks for the cover art catch being from the spring show, not sure I would have caught that! And as I posted on 37, I have that poster.

Bobby Weir used to wear Madonna shirts in the mid 80's....

....matched well with his Daisy Dukes.

Taylor?

That image looked like beardless Jerry to me.

Bob and his Madonna shirt are on one of the official video releases (VFTV4?).

Left Hand Monkey Wrench

Dead.net WEB Site could use some TLC . Get rid of the "Who Are You" pop up (don't mind the song). Lately it seems every icon click leads to the table of contents instead of interior web pages. Did the monkey grab the keys to the IT Control Room? Would rather order merch from my laptop or desktop not my iphone. Oh Well, going to get some new flagpole rope to fly my new STEALIE flag.

9/7 bonus

I listened to the CD’s and all played fine with no distortion or audio problems. Have the files on a computer now as I convert to various formats for use on music players.

Note: on crappy computer speakers there is a lot of distortion (mostly Phil). I didn’t notice any when I played the CD’s on my stereo system.

Bonus track list:
111:37

Bird Song
Playing
Here Comes Sunshine
Let It Grow>
Stella Blue
Truckin’>
Drums>
Other One Jam>
Eyes>
Sugar Mag

Edit:
Now playing the bonus disc on home stereo and there is no distortion or audio problems.
When playing the files on a computer the audio levels (as shown by the audio software) were close to saturation. So, if you hear distortion try it on better speakers. This may account for the previous posts by people who listened with headphones and thought they detected distortion and/or saturation.

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