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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 19, 2021 - 12:03pm

#1361

Oroborous

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38 production issues cont....

Wow, lol, this is all over the place.
I’ve tried twice to go through with the intention of noting precise instances with pad and paper, but didn’t because I didn’t want to waste a whole day on this but it obviously needs to be done lol. The situation is the boss!
It’s a dirty job but somebody needs to do it, so guess that’s what I’m doing today lol.
First, a few reply’s in an attempt to clear some things up or perhaps get more of us on the same page?

- FIRST THE SOUND: there is nothing wrong with the “sound” of this, it’s some kind of production anomaly that hurts the “sound”
- THE LEVELS TOO HIGH: I don’t believe this is the problems since the peak level is at -1db, which is perfect. You’ll notice on discs that are over mastered set at 0db with hard compression to make them LOUDER. IMHO this style of mastering is obnoxious and sucks! There has been much discussion on this the last ten years or so about this elsewhere if your interested. I stopped buying “remastered” stuff after getting some Floyd and Stones Some Girls since they sound like shit. All their doing is compressing the hell out of the mix to make it louder, but that ruins the dynamic range, which is one of the most important elements of good music I.e., see the GD! Luckily, the GOGD folks don’t do this!
- BAD COMPRESSION: sometimes if the recording levels were too low there can be a bad signal to noise ratio. You’ve all probably heard this with a beloved tape that you have to turn up extra loud to hear, which then makes tape noise and hiss super noticeable. BITD sometimes folks would use a compressor. This cuts off some of the level peaks but boosts some of the quieter sounds, hopefully making the ratio of noise to sound more tolerable. But there are limits to how much you can use this method without causing hard compression or limiting which can cause the processor to distort.
This is referring to all analog too, digital is even more unforgiving about clipping etc. I wouldn’t think they’d use this methodology on a distributed piece of professional work, but it could be possible? If they wanted this show released bad enough and the tape was noisy...? And/or If they felt that the vast majority of people would never notice it, who knows?
- TYPICAL 73: agree, besides these issues, and perhaps some differences in the mix I.e., Bob is really nicely present, this sounds very 73...
- THE MIX: this is not the mix. Whatever your feelings are on the mix, that isn’t the problem
- THE USUAL: yes there are the “usual” “dropouts”, “unevenness”, etc, but none of these or the usual stuff people comment on, are the problem, this is different. In all my years I’ve never experienced this!
- WASHY: not sure what that means, but I doubt that’s it either. Washy sounds like more of the “normal” idiosyncrasies found on 50 year old non professionally recorded tape.
- WOBBLY: : same with this, not sure exactly what is meant as I’ve never heard it used in professional audio terms before lol, but I’m guessing it’s same as above in that it’s a “normal” item that occasionally is noticeable? If it’s meant in regards to variable tape speed issues, that is not the problem we’re referring to here.
-“IN THE BEGINNING”: this problem has nothing to do with the often occurrence of the mix taking awhile to be dialed in by the mixer etc.
DARK-STAR: though there is definitely a clipping factor here, I can assure you it’s not due to amplifier clipping. My MC 601 mono blocks have circuitry to prevent clipping, plus, I don’t push them that loud. That’s the whole point of having 600 watt amps, headroom! It’s all about phat tone, not volume! I don’t like super loud anymore, so I find around 90 db peaks or so at the listening position of about 7-8’ is plenty loud. At that volume, the amp meters usually are registering 60 watt peaks, so no where near clipping.
I’m curious what you mean about your equalizer “evening” out the sound besides the eq? I’m assuming you have some kind of limiter in the unit? I’m curious what unit your using? EQ itself has nothing to do with this problem.

A little info on EQ though: it is usually used for 1 of 2 reasons; professionally, it is used as little as possible to tune a room, like a studio or dedicated listening room using sophisticated analyzers and testing equipment.
The second general use is for preference; the way many of you use it to suit your personal taste influenced by the gear, and speakers/headphones your using. It is also used similarly to mix individual sources for live and recorded music. Though live EQ is also used for room issues, it is more often used to “color” sound to preference, not to make things accurate. Whole nother thing there that the reader can look up about accurate vs “good” sound...
But research increasingly shows that phase/timing issues are the biggest negative factor on sound and unfortunately EQ can cause unwanted phase issues. If you ever wondered why Mickeys studio stuff is the gold standard it’s because he doesn’t use EQ but instead painstakingly uses appropriate mics and mic placement. If you must use EQ, you should try to cut prominent frequency’s instead of boosting others. Like turn down the bass versus turning up the treble. You should never boost if possible. The little op amps in the knobs were not intended to be used as amplifiers, but that’s what your doing when you boost! Sorry, I don’t explain this stuff vert well. So if your having to boost all those upper frequencies, no offense, but you might have bad sounding speakers and/or significant hearing loss, something more common in us older folks than most might be aware of. Like you could have hearing loss and not even realize it unless you get tested! Of course all that really matters is if your happy with your rig, no matter how much or how little it costs etc, the only thing that matters is if your happy with it!
- SMALL BATCHES: I disagree that it’s not possible for damaged small batches. Yes their using the same master, that’s why it’s called a master, but that doesn’t mean that batches of blank/raw discs couldn’t be flawed or that somehow a setting got changed during the master transferring. I don’t think it’s the former but could be the latter?
It could be something as esoteric as there were weird power issues on the grid at the plant during part of the run? Again, I don’t think that’d be the case as any real professional facility would have isolated, professionally treated power, but it’s an example of the many weird things that can happen with electronics and electricity that most folks have no idea about.
HOW PEOPLE ARE LISTENING: what your listening on may well be a factor if your not hearing it, but I doubt this is caused by what your listening on. This is definitely a production issue, either on the original tape, or during the subsequent production.
I’m still wondering if they ever used a limiter and/or compressor on the original recording? It would make sense to have one since Kidd et el can’t be sitting there the whole time riding the mix like that. These guys had other responsibilities, so to ensure that something/someone doesn’t occasionally clip the recording, using a soft limit could smooth out those occasional peaks. But there are limits to this (no pun intended), if someone turns up significantly louder, it’ll still clip and can cause audible distortion by overdriving the limiter/compressor etc.
This to me would explain the phenomena. If your sharing a unit via a aux mix on a mixing console, that means everything, all sources potentially get bussed through that unit. If the unit isn’t set just right, any time anything engages the unit, there could be audible artifacts caused by this. That’s why I think this may be it, since it’s not effecting only one source, and it’s not everything all the time. It’s effecting most sources but not all the time...

LOL, being such an audio nut, not knowing what’s going on is more annoying to me than the actual problem, though I think it’s bad enough that I’ll need to look into replacements. It is definitely very interesting, at least to this geek!
Anyway, I’ll go through song by song and document as much as I can and report back.
May 19, 2021 - 11:23am

#1362

proudfoot

Joined:
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GD, zits and all

play on
play on
play on
May 19, 2021 - 11:02am

#1363

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

A Sound Technician Walks Into A Bar…

Jeffrey Norman walks into a bar, and orders a beer. The bartender takes one look at him, and says, “Ok!! But I don’t want to hear any problems from you!!”
May 19, 2021 - 10:27am

#1364

stillwaters

Joined:
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To All Those With Issues Regarding The Sound

Please read the caveat emptor for Dick's Pick's.

We now return to our regularly scheduled program.
May 19, 2021 - 9:45am

#1365

dreading

Joined:
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AJS

I hear some loud hi-hat in places. Like the beginning of Jack Straw. If you get a chance can tell me if you hear the same kind of loud symbols on the "Big Railroad Blues" on PNW boxed set June 24, 1973 Portland? I sure do.
May 19, 2021 - 8:51am

#1366

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Sir James

That is pretty much what I currently have.

About 6-7 years ago, I was looking for a new car. Well, new to me. Buying a new car is one of the biggest rip-offs known to mankind. You are much better off purchasing a slightly used one for a 1/3 or more less. Anyway, I went about my search by bringing a copy of DaP1 to the dealerships. The whole point was that since I spend so much time in the car, I wanted a nice sound system. I would simply turn on the car and listen to the music. After a minute or so, the salesperson would ask if I was ready for a drive. "Not needed" I would reply to a perplexed look. "Thank you for your time." Most wanted thousands more for an upgraded sound system. I wound up going with Acura because the sound was excellent and the price was significantly lower.
May 19, 2021 - 8:18am

#1367

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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Ha!

Jim, you had me at "There is really only one solution". I sensed some chortle-worthy shenanigans on the way.

Awesome Version Alert -

My favorite part of Casey Jones is the finale where they repeat the chorus a bunch of times and everyone joins in and plays "denser" I guess you would say. The combo of Pigpen's Hammond, Jerry and Bobby laying it on thick, and Keith's piano gradually building in tempo - it's just fantastic on this night.

I think Pigpen was really wielding that Hammond with some exceptional skill at that point. Never flashy, but he could play fast at need, was always on time, and always picked his spots with musical know-how. That was quite a period when they had both Keith and Pigpen playing together.

Edit - whoops - would help if I provided a date - 5/18/72. I'm still rummaging through that show.
May 19, 2021 - 8:04am

#1368

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

lol moment last night

went to bed early
had my phone on archive 5/13/83 set two
she comes up later
I am asleep
Space is full steam
She hisses: "THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!! THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!!"

uh, ok. I'll just turn it off....
May 19, 2021 - 7:51am

#1369

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: AJS

Clearly you need the Wall of Sound Mobile Edition T (C) (R).

https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/382735668306627856/

Pimp up your ride.

(......honey, I got us a new car!)
May 19, 2021 - 7:45am

#1370

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

Follow up

So, I listened to the release in the car this morning. Now I am more baffled by the fact that most folks can't seem to hear the distortion. The best way I can describe it, as I stated in my initial post, is that the cymbals are way to high in the mix. It's quite a nuisance. I also recant my earlier comment on the problem not being on the 9/7 release. It is very evident on HCS. Hell, even our dog can hear it.

It's a shame because it detracts from an otherwise fine release.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Box set suggestion

How about a Dylan and The Dead box set to celebrate Dylan’s 80th birthday. Obviously, it isn’t going to happen but it would be interesting to hear.

Talkin' 'bout soap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2WW3_Uu3ug

Just Finished Set 1...

Wow. Just wow. #4648 is sounding great here in Baltimore!

Love the artwork on this one too! Very cool the way they went with the Weather Reporter for the first ever WRS. It is stuff like that that keeps me coming back!

"Bertha" is a little bumpy, but thanks to the kind folks here, I knew to simply wait it out for a bit and that things would correct themselves - and boy, did they ever! Very happy with this release - it's got me shouting like Bobby at the end of this "Looks Like Rain!"

On to set 2!

Peace

9 8 73

I love this
A show I am totally unfamiliar with
Oh for a soundboard of this quality of 9 11 73

Wow Nappy

Thats cool
I think vguy found somma dat yesterday

I saw a screening of that flick years ago

I dont recall the song tho

Y'all be cool, Nappy

did someone say

This might be their favorite El Paso of all time? lol I like the '77-'78 versions myself :-)

I gotta dig deeper into this one.

El Paso

2 9 73

Thick As A Brick

Otis my man! I couldn't figure out what the point of the artwork was. Then I actually commented yesterday about how the WRS didn't have its normal ending (as if they had not yet developed it) and I still didn't make the connnection. I also just saw the animated DaP 38 cover art from the email advertisement. Very cool. I guess I thought it was a windy night at Nassau.....

I am really loving what I've heard so far. I'm up to Truckin' now. A lot of what I'm enjoying is the clarity of Jerry and Bobby playing together. In the past when Bobby's been turned up loud, Jerry's been too low; but here they each pretty much own a speaker. It's a very unique mix. The separation between instruments reminds me of DaP 18 at the Orpheum, though it was more Jerry and Keith on that one.

5/2/70

Among the biggest tentpole shows of tentpole shows imho.

Holie of holies

Polie of polies

- jack black

5 2 70 rox

3 7 81 rox

Gotta try again on 9 8 73
Too much trippus interuptus on the first go round

Raw Power

Sums up 5/2/70. Often overlooked-this includes my favourite version of "Good Lovin'". As well as "Other One" and "Dancing in the Street." And maybe "Viola Lee". But the whole show is amazing.

Oktoberfest 2021 München

Kein Oktoberfest in 2021!
Just cancelled!

5/3/68 Columbia Univ.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WFtQr_W3opM. Always worth a second, or even third look. A 1968 box would really be cool!

Kein Oktoberfest

Wow, Gerd, that is seriously bad news. It was also cancelled last year. Two years no Oktoberfest! The whole world has turned to shit. 💩 Given the choice, I would much rather have beer than corona bat flu 🦇 but we are denied that choice.

DaP 38 Not Fade Away 420

No not that 420!

Almost can't believe my ears, but at the 4:20 mark Not Fade Away part 1, I hear Keith playing some Hammond organ. The last time I recall anything with him playing Hammond was October of '71, and maybe his first couple shows. You can hear some on Dave's Picks 3.

Yes Daverock, The Other One 5/2/70. I bought Dick's Picks 8 based on these comments from listeners on the Heady Version site:

"Garcia's guitar tone here is pure liquid magic"

"High voltage tight lightning jam without a meltdown"

"Every time you think Jerry's peaked, he pulls out another blistering run"

"12:20 begins a sequence where Garcia and his guitar reaches uncharted territory. Did not know this level was even possible"

And my favorite:

"Garcia is in orbit - no other way to characterize it. Makes his case re the Nobel for Holy Fuck!"

Organ

My ears had whiplash too, mouth agape and gobsmacked. I wish there had been more...and call me crazy but
I swear Truckin' is about to turn into Need a Miracle at about 7min. but then its only '73. Oh well, might as well listen to the whole show, again! Really enjoying this one!

Fudge

The ending of Let it Grow on this release is like delicious melting fudge. That is all.

My Favorite Dave’s

I think I can confidently say that this is my favorite Dave’s so far. Even though the sound quality isn’t as good as the last few Dave’s(especially the last one, very crisp), the playing is sublime. The mix is nice too, even if Keith gets buried sometimes. It’s almost weird to hear Bobby so loud, but it’s really nice especially during Row Jimmy and Ramble On Rose. Jerry’s playing is also very good, and Phil is nice and up front, at least to my ears. From what I’ve heard of the bonus disk so far, I’m really enjoying it. Overall, great release. Highlights for me are the WRS, Row Jimmy, Sugaree, Eyes>China Doll, and that entire 3rd disk is something very special.

Also, a May 73 box set would be wonderful; a perfect complement to this Dave’s. I would also like to a see a Fall 84 or Greek Theater 84 release sometime. Those Greek shows are gold!

As for the next Dave’s(or future Dave’s), I’m hoping for 9/15/85, 2/14/86(trust me, it’s really good), and 6/29/76.

Friendly With The Devil

Like a board tape, unedited, oraganic and real. So many "live" albums as official releases have tons of overdubs. Not these, the Dick's and Dave's picks feature every note as played.

I would like to hear more crowd noise, but again just the natural audience banter not the piped in "KISS Alive" shit. Although I do love KISS.

The Grateful Dead are the most human sounding of any band I have ever heard. Sometimes loose, sometimes tight, sometimes sloppy, otherworldy, in and out of tune. It's what I love about them and it isn't a backhanded compliment.

I come to the well of the Dead for what I can't get anywhere else, and this release is absolutely primo in that regard.

Cheers everyone.

\m/

Eyes -> China Doll....

.... =bliss.

An underlying hockey theme

36 - Whales - Hartford Whalers

37 - Penguins poster on the corkboard.

38 - Islanders logo in the paper

Is Dave from Canadaland?

I met #3621 accidentally today, in Saint Paul, Minnesota

Didn't have time to sit down and listen to it yet, but I recently listened to DP 19 (10/19/73) to get mentally prepared. The shipping notice anticipated delivery today, and they came through.

With all the talk about 5/2/70 lately...

With all the talk about 5/2/70 lately, I decided to take another listen to Dick's Picks #8. It really was a really great show! Over the weekend, I was also able to find and download an SBD version of the show that included the NRPS set in between the Dead's acoustic and electric sets! Gonna give that version of the show a listen to soon!

WooHoo my shipping label has printed.

No other information is available.....

Why can't this series be released in digital format? Every other release, other than Dave's is sold that way...

Only thinking, maybe because they can skim, cds off the top and sell them on Ebay. I truly wonder how many copies of this LIMITED EDITION and Numbered series. are out there...There a many copies abound with no numbers...wait I get it....the numbered series is limited, the unnumbered don't count.

Also, I see them on Ebay, being bid on, at twice the price or more. Yet, Dead.net, had not sold out, at that time.

To many hands in the cookie jar.

Re: Underlying Hockey Theme

aye.. oh yea, no, for sure.

still on 5/2/70

Keithfan-Caniol - yes, this version of The Other One is transcendental. Incredible that they could hit such peaks as this in a live performance, and then release "American Beauty" a few months later. AB is also magical, but in a way that couldn't be more different. I can't think of any other band that could produce such inspiring music in such contrasting genres in the same year. Great live AND in the studio during 1970.

I used to have a bootleg of this show with the NRPS set included back at the tail end of the 80s. Long gone now, unfortunately.

Dave's Picks Vol. 38

Having problems finding decent artwork for Vol. 38 ... Need !!!

Keeping on... 5/2/70

With a deflating exhale, I will add today marks the 51st anniversary of "four dead in Ohio.." just a couple days after the famed Dicks Picks Vol. 8.

One of my all time favorite shows too. It's just spectacularly executed, they were on fire that day. ..and now it looks like I have to search high and low for the NRPS addition. Ah, found it.

Some of the all time classic shows to my ears occurred in 1970. Dicks Picks 4 and 8, the Sept and Nov runs at the Capitol and others. Plus.. the guy that was supposed to hit the record button was MIA most of the year. Can you imagine what would have been if the hit the record button buy hadn't sprained his hit the record button finger? What might have been... set the wayback machine for 2/1/1970, New Orleans.

and Pelazami - Jeff Smith does an incredible job creating digital images of the artwork. He lives in a cave up in the hills though.. so like me, it takes him a couple extra days to get his copy. I am really looking forward to getting and listening to mine. It's getting an awful amount of positive hype and good reviews.

Racking my brain... (bonus disc cover art)

I've been driving myself crazy since I received my copy yesterday trying to figure out what that shadowy crab claw / batwing looking thing lurking in the wheat is. Dave's only hint on Twitter was "it's very meaningful in the Dead world..." I'm gonna feel really stupid if it is something obvious, but my mind just can't connect the dots on this one. Help!

1/18/86 Garcia acoustic, Keystone Palo Alto

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZA7fXiSNI. I really enjoyed this show, Keystone Palo Alto was a pretty small place, I saw Garcia play there a lot of times . I remember one night when Hunter was on the bill with Garcia he said, "I remember when this place was a Purity Store, we used to shopliftit in here". I saw Muddy Waters play at Keystone Palo Alto one time, fun times!

re: @ pelazami. DaP 38 artwork

https://flickr.com/photos/104729480@N03

SJButler

Not a bat, a wolf - see it now?

Thanks PKB for the artwork link.

Fabulous. I got my copy much earlier than usual. Sat May 1. I get impatient waiting for some decent artwork. THX

Weir is the Mix

I do love this release and the bonus disc is really sweet. But Im wondering if all the hype from Dave in the seaside chat about how well Bobby was playing in the show was to prepare us for how low Jerry seems in the mix and how in the front Bobby is on the 9/8 show. The bonus disc from 9/7 seems better balanced but Im straining to hear Jerry at times in the main show and its a bummer cause what I can hear is smoking! All in all this is a solid release though and Im already on my second full listen!!!

50 years ago today

I was at the Kent state 1 year moratorium anniversary of the killing of 4 Ohio state students by the Ohio state national guard. It's hard to believe it's been 50 years. Seems like it went by in a flash.
It was a very somber day, there was a lot of people there, protesting the war and marking the anniversary of the killings. Lots of cops too. Some were angry, but most were sad. The war was still raging, the cops were still hating on everything hippie, the draft was still going on and young people were angry and afraid and anxious and fed up.
That was about the time I started to realize that they were never going to change. That I could not change them with all my yelling and protesting. It's like everything that I had been taught did not apply to them. The "establishment" was too established to bring down, or even change just a little. They made the rules but didn't have to live by them. A somber day indeed.
There was going to be a large gathering on the 50th anniversary of the killings, but Covid cancelled those plans. Joe Walsh (a student at the time of the murders) and David Crosby were scheduled to play a concert with Joe reforming the old Barnstorm line up for the show. That would have been great.
I do not know what that shadowy figure in the wheat is, anybody?
This is an excellent release, that 3rd disc is awesome.

WADEOCU

Thank you! Smacking myself on the forehead wondering how I missed that. :-)

Kent State anni

I saw an article recently about the woman/girl in the iconic photo. That photo really f'd up her life. She was identified, and people spewed hate on her. Sickening.

She was apparently a 14 year old runaway when the pic was taken.

America, you wonderful, digusting, admirable, foul entity...

sjb & wad and the picture

I thought it was the top of a cats head. After the crow, the china cat. Ears don't look right for a wolf?.?

Channeling Jerry

I'm absolutely loving DaP 38. It doesn't get much better than '73 Dead. Mine arrived yesterday, just days after the official release, and glory glory hallejuah, all the discs actually play! I've only had time to listen to discs 1 and 2, and they're as great as others have said. This is right in my sweet spot, a 10 out of 10, AFAIC.

I'll probably write more about the music at some point, but for now I just want to mention a couple things about the audio: one is that this is indeed one of the few shows where Bob's guitar is as loud or louder than Jerry's in the mix. In some ways, this is great, and I didn't really mind having the chance to really savor Bob's amazing, ridiculously under-rated guitar playing. BUT for anyone who's interested, I did notice that you can adjust this to a significant degree but adjusting the balance between your stereo channels. Bob's in the left channel, Jer in the right, and for me, putting the "balance" nob at about 1 o'clock brought Jerry up a little and, I thought, improved the stereo image.

Also, as some others have noticed, there is some weirdness is the extreme low frequencies at a couple points, and I could see how it could sound like a defect on some systems, but to my ears it sounded like something Phil was doing intentionally: not a classic Phil Bomb, but more like maybe his amp was distorting just a little at peak passages and he decided to just go with it and try to make something out of it? You now Phil. Remember that scene in the Grateful Dead Movie, where his bass starts making weird sounds as the guy holds the move camera near it, and instead of getting annoyed or freaking out, Phil tells him to keep doing it, and he immediately starts twisting nobs on his amp just to see what weird noises he can get? Love that guy.

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left right

actually i think jerry is in left channel to simulate his location from the perspective of an audience member in 73, bob is certainly loud but i think there is plenty of jerry, i really like the mixes with guitars on either side, sometimes the recordists (or mixers for multitrack) put bob and keith on either side with jerry in the middle which also makes sense in a way, bob's sound in here comes sunshine is extra...

i will echo earlier comments about the rarity of keith on a hammond sounding organ, did they just have one at nassau and decided to give it a try? also i def thought it sounded like miracle at one point in the truckin jam, not too surprising for a driving E blues jam

Lead-Rhythm

Interesting comments on Daves 38, which I haven't heard yet. Bob's apparent presence seems to echo a discussion from last week concerning lead and rhythm guitar. Maybe its a bit misleading to regard a guitarist who favours a chordal approach as rhythm and someone who plays single lines as lead. I vaguely remember reading an interview with Jerry somewhere, in which he said that many times he followed rather than led, when he was playing. But because he was (usually) louder, it seemed as though he was the one doing the leading. To be sure, he often would have been-but not always.

Proudfoot

Define "wee bit of time" for me. The release date is now 3 days gone. My shipment hit my local Post Office a week ago. They have flat out told me they have no clue where the package is. I got email yesterday from Dead.net customer service asking for my info so they could look into it. Hopeful there at least.
Is this mail innovations thing just about the $? This must be the 4th or 5th DP I waited for long after the tracking showed a transfer to the PO. A couple made it. I'm pretty sure I had to have help from Mary on this forum to get a couple of them replaced. I'll pay extra money for UPS or Fed Ex. PLEASE anyone who has influence suggest this option. Put a big handling fee on there so you can do more free shipping to people who need it.
When the announcement of DP 38 on sale hit my inbox I ordered a copy just in case I never see my replacement order. I'd be out the bonus disc but surely could find that music somewhere.
If dead.net makes this right so I get the subscription order I will give the other copy to someone on here who missed out. I'll even pay shipping because I'll be so happy to get my proper copy.

DaP #38 is here!

Hey now my friends and freaks! DaP #38 was waiting for me in my my mailbox when I got home last night. And it's number 1780. I don't think I've ever gotten a lower number since I've been subscribing to the series. There is truly no rhyme or reason to the way the releases are allocated and I don't really care about that. It's all about the music and the memories!

Anyway, I'm downloading it now so I can listen to it today at work. What I've heard in the Listening Party and on Dave's SiriusXM special is awesome. This might have been a show I attended. The 60s and 70s are such a blur but I got to a ton of shows in the NYC/Philly area back in the day. Nassau was one of the venues I saw lots of shows at.

Mama told me life is like a box of chocolates....

....but $350?!? C'mon Mama!

Post Office Delays

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Everything coming through the USPS is unreliable these days. Without getting into politics, I will say that the current Postmaster General hasn't helped the timeliness of our mail service. I accidentally ordered two subscriptions this year and my second hasn't shown up yet.

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