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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • #1371
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    There is really only one solution. It's a bit complicated.. so hang in there with me. This is what we all need to do.

    1) Get out the credit card with the greatest limit.
    2) Google, select and purchase the new Wall of Sound, Home Edition TM (C) R with this credit card. As soon as the purchase is made destroy this card.
    3) DO NOT TELL your partner/significant other.
    4) Go to the roughest bar in town and tell some raunchy mom jokes to the bouncer. Keep doing this until he pummels you.
    5) Come home and tell your partner / significant other you were mugged and robbed. Tell them all they took was your credit card.
    6) If your partner is suspicious file a police report.
    7) Install the WOS Home Edition in your listening room while your partner is not home. If complaints arise later, amnesia from the head trauma is your response. "honey, I am having trouble remembering anything from that week.
    8) Replay Dave's Picks 38 at high volume.

    Your sound issues are now resolved. Happy listening.

  • #1372
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    The levels are too high

    I mentioned that a while ago, after others had already detected it with headphones.

    I played the CDs twice on my stereo system are did not detect any sound issues.
    Onkyo 6-disc CD changer
    Cambridge Audio receiver
    Onkyo subwoofer
    Bose 301 speakers

    I then imported to computer and made ALAC files for my music players and AAC files to play from a USB flash drive in the car.
    When I played the imported AIFF files on the computer there was extensive distortion through the small external computer speakers.
    The colored bars that show the sound levels (not volume) on the computer audio software were almost hitting red. Clearly too high, but don’t know if that is on the original recording or the result of mastering.
    Recall that on 8-25-72 Norman boosted Phil’s bass beyond what was on the original recording.
    Maybe he boosted the levels for this release.

    I played the ALAC files with an iBasso DX120 music player connected to my Cambridge Audio receiver. Did not detect any distortion or other sound flaws.
    Been playing the AAC files in the car this week and have not heard any issues so far (set 2 started just before getting to work today).

    So, it definitely depends on your system whether you hear the issues.
    Crappy computer speakers sound terrible.
    Apparently a high end system like Oro’s reveals the sound problems too.
    My midrange system sounds good as does the audio system in my car.

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    Upon several listens to these cd's, I concur, this release has a few abnormalities that don't take away from the overall enjoyment of listening to these discs, but they are noticeable and makes me wonder if it was the master tape or was it a mailed in mastering job?
    This has also made me wonder, will the rest of Dave's sound like this? I love me some Jerry right up front, why I'm here, but there should be a better balance of all the players in a band, not just one or two.
    Disappointing? yes, deal breaker? not sure yet, will have to wait and see, but if there is any more killer shows that they do want to release, lets hope that the folks who do the mastering of these ancient tapes does a little bit better job than this release.
    On a separate note, I was privileged to receive a code for the Dead and Company presale going on today at 10 am. Funny, I did not receive a code last tour, not privileged I guess. The price for these tickets is outrageous. A vip guaranteed reserve seat is over 250.00$. That's for one ticket.
    It was fun getting excited like the old days, yahoo, the dead to tour, get your head together, get some tickets, get excited, get ready.....then I realized that those days are over for me. I can go see Billy strings, get a great hotel room, then go to the hot air balloon festival and get to ride on a hot air balloon, all for the same amount of cash. Kinda seems like a no brainer here, twice as much fun for the same dollars.
    I realize that Bobby, Mickey and Billy are getting up there and there won't be too many more tours for them, and I would love to revisit these guys one more time.
    The last time I tried to get tickets and got them, the show was cancelled due to Mayer's appendicitis. I don't want to jinx it so I will pass on this tour, besides, it's just too soon for me to be out there with all those vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Too all those who decide to go, enjoy.

  • #1374
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    I ultimately reached the conclusion that part of the issue is how people are listening. I do not listen on headphones, computer speakers or use any type of equalizer. So far I have not listened in the car. I did try using Dolby on one of our stereo systems, which reduced the noise to a certain extent, but not entirely.

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    That's a fact

    I've been in the record business all my life and agree with AJS. There is almost no way an audio anomaly like what was described could occur on some discs and not others for Dave's Picks. These discs are pressed ùfrom the same master. There would need to be two different master mixes for a subset of CDs to contain an anomaly. I would say the player could be a factor, but Obo ruled that out already. I assume like Jim said we are not counting Bertha because it is uneven for obvious reasons. I hear a decent sounding 1973 show here. The master tapes sound better better than Pacific Northwest but not as good as DaP 5. I don't hear many audio issues at all. I would like to hear what Obo and AJS are disliking. I whipped out the Bose headphones and all I hear is Jerry "shredding". What a night he is having. Weir too. Early on somebody said Keith was gone and that is true. Every once in a while I will hear a section that sounds like a tunnel for 5 or 10 seconds, but they are few and far between. Or Weir will just stop playing like in China Cat Sunflower but he needs to rest sometimes. He played China Cat, HCS, EOTW and Bird Song all in one night ;-)

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    The chances are virtually nil that some defect would have only affected such a small number of discs. Furthermore, it only occurs on the 9/8 show, not 9/7. I am very surprised as well that others are not hearing it.

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    I don't hear it, which isn't saying much. I rip everything to my hard drive as WAV files and run them through an equalizer with a bunch of sound options. "Concert Hall" is perfect for these old Dead tapes, plus I push up the four EQ sliders all the way to the right about halfway.

    That being said Oborious, this sentence got my attention. You say:

    I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.

    This phenomena sounds like something Norman may have done in production. It sounds like a feature I have that prevents clipping at high volume. I am a fan of good sound but no engineer so I will copy the internet definition, which you probably know:

    Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its power rating.

    When I play stuff too loud this feature cuts back on only the parts that are causing the clipping. It is obvious to the ear when this feature on my system gets activated. It sounds exactly like your description where you say 'several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.'

    My theory is that the master tapes Jeff Norman worked with had some hot spots so he used a feature like what I have on my equalizer to "even out" all the levels as he input the music from the master tapes on to a digital storage.

    I am not sure why I don't hear it but I guess my EQ is dressing it up. If I listen to the CD with no EQ it sounds like the treble needs to get turned up all the way. Even then it doesn't sound even close to the quality of the EQ and Concert Hall enhancement. It makes me curious if a lot of people out there listen straight off the CD with nothing 'extra' to improve the sound.

    On a different note I laughed heartily at the quacking duck interview. Well done whoever made that up. It sounds like something Jerry would say.

    And last, I listened to the Dark Star / Morning Dew that KF mentioned on 5/18/72. I don't know how I overlooked that one but it is much better than I remembered. Somehow the Europe 72 Dark Stars never stuck with me. Probably because I rarely play those shows. Only because I want them to be special every time.

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    Great joke.. made my day.
    I wholeheartedly agree.

    Yes.. the sound on 38 is a bit wobbly in the beginning. But isn't that Grateful Dead standard time? It sounds ok by the time they get warmed up.

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    Next up on the E72 anniversary list. What at a great show. And it's Dark Star => Morning Dew night.
    I'm going to go out on limb here and say it's the first time they did this combo. This is one of my favorite shows from the tour. Jerry's guitar is louder than usual (and louder is always better). Crunchy guitars are tight!

    Sugar Magnolia really hits a groove, and Billy has this absolutely ridiculous drum fill at the....drum fill part; I've never heard him play it quite like this - it's like gets a running headstart. Great version despite a classic Bobby lyric miss early on (proof of the weed).

    Jack Straw is great. This is maybe the second one where Jerry sings the Watchman and Tulsa verses, and Bobby forgets it's not his line anymore - so they both jump the Watchman - not a fair fight at all.

    And some great banter after Black-Throated Wind. Jerry always makes me laugh up there. He was the king of one-liners:

    Girl Fan (to Jerry): Lovelight!

    Jerry: Turn on YOUR Lovelight baby.

    Girl Fan: You Turn on yours first.

    Jerry: Oh no, after you...

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    Sound quality on 38

    I was surprised this is the first real discussion about it. I got my copies a week ago, and have made it through the Bonus and Bird Song and Playing as I ripped and converted and had 9/7 first. Also, made it up to Weather Report Suite on the release. The sound struck me as incredibly washy, and while it's great to hear Keith and Bob much more than usual (some releases you wonder if Keith played on much at all from his presence on the tapes, but these are great for Keith fans!), so I just balance that with the cymbal heavy mix. Maybe they were trying new mic placements for the drums. Not Kidd Candelario's best tape by any stretch. He's usually top notch, though. Jai Alai Fronton last year is a phenomenal Kidd tape. That may be my favorite Wall of Sound release for sound quality.

    Also, I'm surprised, or have missed, no reference to the Bonus Eyes ending not with its Slipknotish jam, but ending with a Here Comes Sunshine jam. A fantastic Eyes! Phil with a different start to his solo, and a different feel, maybe reacting to the Wolf darting around? So far enjoying the release and bearing with the sound.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 05/08/2021 - 22:48

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One word. Stockpile. I spun disk 3 of Dap 21 and was amazed at how good it sounds even when I am 3 deep in vodka martinis. Its similar to 38 in some ways.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 05:21

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Billy the Kid-Sheik Yer Bones- if you haven't already got it, the double cd "The Centennial Collection" from 2011 presents Robert Johnsons recordings with a clarity I have never heard before.
I have never heard either of the Peter Green or Eric Clapton cover albums-maybe I should check them out.
Among my favourite cover versions are those by Larkin Poe - there on youtube under "cover versions". Just two young women and a couple of guitars - great unassuming versions of "Come On In My Kitchen" "Sweet Home Chicago" and even "Hellhound On My Trail".
Good choice of blues singers on Mt. Rushmore, Billy. If Blind Willie Johnson could be called a blues singer, he would be one of my choices in the pre war slot. Probably the blues artist I have got most cds by, though, is John Lee Hooker. Maybe cause he recorded the most!
Deadwise I have been ducking and diving around eras, travelling the roads less travelled. A great one from Europe 72 is the Beat Club, Bremen from 4/21. A single cd with two covers of "Playin in the Band" and jam out of "Other One" that never wants to stop and was never repeated ( I don't think).
5/5/77 is also easy to overlook-but its got a great "Sugaree" in there.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 05:59

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Garcia said something about John Lee Hooker once, he said, John Lee Hooker is the kind of a guy who can scare you playing just one note. I saw John Lee Hooker play a few times. he always put on a good show.

John Lee Hooker lived in Redwood City in the 80s, he used to have his breakfast at the Lyons in San Carlos on El Camino(long gone now) He was quite a sight; impeccably dressed, a feather in his hat.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 08:04

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All is good with the world again.

Happy Mothers Day folks.. how about a happy reply from a happy mother out there somewhere reading this.

What's a good Mothers Day show to listen to today??

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Submitted by WokeUpDead on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 08:11

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I saw Mr. Johnny Lee play in a college residence hall auditorium in the late '70s. His band came on without him and played for 30 minutes before the man himself was helped onto the stage and sat down on a stool in front of the band. He couldn't walk without assistance but was still impressive, even though he appeared to be on his last go-round. As it turned out, he still had decades to go. He was too bad of a man for the Reaper to take.

My blues Mt. Rushmore:
Pre-war: Charlie Patton, Robert Johnson, John Lee Williamson (the real Sonny Boy), Memphis Minnie
Post-war: Muddy Waters, Elmore James, Jimmy Reed, Albert King
Of course there are many names that could be rotated onto either list on any given week.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 10:05

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x5g9HaUs3qo. Lebowski, I think you're right, were going to have to carve another head on Mt Rushmore for. Howlin Wolf. Jim, 1973 DEAD, what do you think about a May 1973 box set with 5/13,20,26/73., Des Moines, Santa Barbara, and good ole San Francisco. I think it is something that is gonna happen in the near future, what do you think about that?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 10:24

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Don't sleep on Omaha. 2 days after DP19.

P.S. Apparently, NOT a robot.

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Submitted by dreading on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 12:43

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I do not believe the borderline '73 heads would be much interested, based on the PNW non sellout. The 1974 shows in that box were extraordinary for '74, but I thought the 1973 shows were spotty. That is not to say there was not some brilliant must have Dead moments, but they did not hold on to me from end to end like the fall and winter shows. DP 19 is a great example of how great '73 could be. Also the Winterland Complete Recordings Box Set. I have listened to the May shows and Kezar is a winner from the three BTK mentioned, and would most likely be a good Dave's Picks or packaged with 6/9 and 610.

This current release is hot in my book. There has been some great analysis so I don't have anything new to add. The absence of Keith on 9/8 is strange, but the "mix" we got is very good to me. Interesting guitar discussions about the Wolf and the SG accounting for much of the aggressive sound. I never would have considered these things unless they had pointed out. It is always an adventure with the Grateful Dead!

May '73 is right up my wheelhouse. I agree with DReading on the topic, however.. I wouldn't expect to see this come out over the next couple to several years. I agree with his comments on the '73 shows from the last box too. They are not light the fuse and run away from start to finish. It's more an acquired taste, but there are strong moments in every show. I find myself pulling down segments from this box more than listening start to finish.

..but I still love this box. The Portland '74 China Rider for example is one of my all time favorite versions and I am just skimming the surface. I still consider the PNW box mandatory listening.

So May '73, hell yes.. but I am patient. We still have June '73 to ponder also. Putting all these thoughts to the forefront right now.. I think we have just one option. Finish the tunnel underneath the vault and take all of 1973 to mockingbird studios and make this happen. Dave is slacking... it's up to us. Who's with me?

Does that explain....

When I built a fire on Main Street
And shot it full of holes

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 18:50

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"They're not light the fuse and run away from start to finish". I would buy anything from '73, but agree, it's unlikely they would return there so soon.

Let's get the big '72 box going already. So much great stuff just waiting to be Plangentitized.

Completely underestimated the 4/27/69 Dark Star all these years. Top-shelf.

I'm going Spring '77 anniversary tonight - 5/9/77 Buffalo. Bertha is really cool and mellow and smooth. A cut above the other '77 versions.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 21:22

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Sir James,

My apologies for the late post. I spent the day at a soccer tournament. No doubt something the fathers organized.

Each year on Mother’s Day I spin 3/27/86. The only time Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues was played. I was fortunate to be there. Still can’t figure out the lyrics, but a cool tune.

God bless all you mothers out there, the GD and the state of Maine. Coolest place to see shows.

5/7/77. Agreed on Bertha. One of the best concerts of all time and they open up by saying their equipment doesn’t work. Good luck explaining that to your teenage daughters. My favorite versions of Bertha, Peggy-O and 1/2 Step ever.

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Submitted by simonrob on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 04:14

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क्या यह पोस्ट करने के लिए सही जगह है?

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 05:15

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I’d just looked at the UPS and USPS tracking for #38 and they were still saying
UPS - We’ve given it to USPS on 3rd May
USPS - We have been told, electronically, to expect it but we don’t have it yet, also on 3rd May

So I was about to send an email to see what was happening when I saw our postie heading to the door through the driving rain. After they had done their best to dismantle the letter box I discovered my #38 and bonus disc sitting on the floor.

Isn’t that wonderful, you know it certainly is.

Hopefully, I’ll play it tomorrow and check that it works.

Let’s hope some more get through to the UK soon.

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 06:27

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I was fortunate enough to be there also. I remember calling my buddy the next morning with the setlist and told of this "new" song.

Here are the lyrics

"Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues"
Words by Robert Petersen; music by Phil Lesh and Brent Mydland
Halfway past cool on Monday for the sight of her
Rode in town while he built afar [a fire?] with the riders and then the poor
Hot damn, it's a mother's day, don't you all look fine
Promenading down long car ocean, yes it's mine and it's sniffing white

They got poets, shuckers and godzilla's 'round
Mother's sweet little frozen no suit
We got Speed Racer and his archaic as words Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues

Bringin' all the mares hide in your cabs, honey now loosen your load
You belong to this has-no-name, what I
I remember some chicks from the sciz would come along and sit and squeeze too
Silly says, I say it once, for you it's cold steel and slow
Its sounds have all ruptured, it sounds just like glass
Suspect out in the corners, sounding verse and kickin' ass
I felt the city have a narly, don't make the 6 o'clock news
Speed Racer and the band here playing

As I recall I went for the window, but I never did get me there
Hit me hard with his hickory stick was the last thing I saw, met you
Drag me down and tangle, you carry the charges if you feel
Pray for the day that one yourself, but then figure we'll lick a few

But when I try to look up, don't want to let me loosen your load
Here alone take this grenade for me, well I

The fore runner radiates wild help up far now, gun ships pass so far
Pass me a vote, silly, and how we did it all over
Did it all over, did it all over the road

We got broads, suckers and guys in this jail mother sweet little frozen no suit
We got Speed Racer and his archaic am words Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 06:39

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Same boat here, hope mine shows up today before work,,,, around 2 my time.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 06:43

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why can't I order it?

(I am being silly......)

I am slowing warming up to this release. It still feels truncated, though, somehow.

- Another Picky Deadhead

I was at the Rose Palace in Pasadena CA (What a dump) for a show featuring Grateful Dead, Kaleidoscope (David Lindley's first band) and a group called Southwind...Headlining the bill was a showing of the Cream Final Concert film from London's Royal Albert Hall...

I listened to 5/10/69 recently on a solo road trip to Oregon.

HOT.

As happy as I am to have gotten on the bus when I did (82), to have experienced them in 1969....woooooww....

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Submitted by nitecat on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 09:07

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I'm on my second listen, and for me the first set doesn't really take off until WRS. As is frequently the case, the band seems to be warming up during the first few songs.

I haven't seen mention of the "Roll out the Barrel" ditty at the end of cd1. It's not listed, and there is a lot of silence before it appears.

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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 09:14

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Anyone catch a hint of I Need A Miracle at around the 6.58 mark lasting around 15 seconds?

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Submitted by sportybill on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 10:14

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Hey now - I have a Vol. 38 plus bonus disk (opened only to rip music) will trade for a vol.38 collectible glass. Please contact via direct message. Thanks!

I think you will the bonus disc worth more down the road than the glasses,,,, seems they always want a lot of bonus disc.

I've been luckily on the glass front, 2 for 2. Really hoping to get all four. Wish I had gotten the hatchet, Jim made it sound so nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfsAb35jyfw

Nappy - Kaleidoscope seemed like a good band in their own right. Their first two albums, "Side Trips" and "Beacon From Mars" are classics.

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Submitted by direwulf on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 12:35

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Yes indeed sir. Made my ears to a double take. I mentioned this the other day and got a response like "of course they're in a driving blues jam in E." Yeah ok. Doesn't account for the time period being 73! Thank you for pointing out how weird it is to hear that riff show up so early. Not an "of course," but an "oh my, thats about 5 years to early!" Funny it struck .e as something so standoutish I can't remember another Truckin' that quite does that. I wonder how long that riff was bouncing around before landing jn Miracle. Anyone else know of a show where that specific riff shows up so blatantly and cleanly before the Miracle daze...or days?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 17:20

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How's about the GSTL can koozie? Woo wooooooo!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 17:49

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Slipknot! was played live before 1975, and there is a WRS Prelude on a previous DaP release (don’t remember the #).

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Submitted by LedDed on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 17:57

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I finally saw John Lee Hooker at Long Beach Blues Fest in 1997. He really was on his last legs; he sat down as he played and mumbled a bunch of shit like, 'you you you you you..." It went on too long and was out of rhythm and sync. But, it was a paying gig and the man showed up and I can say I saw him.

John Lee, Jimmy Reed - those dudes had a pocket a mile wide. "Bright Lights, Big City" Shit! "Dimples." "Big Legs, Tight Skirt." "One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer." Don't give me any cancel culture bullshit. The blues is and was as real as it gets. Men like women, they like booze, and they sang about it righteously.

"Going Down" as sung by Freddie King is another peak moment. What a groove! "Ain't No Love In The Heart Of The City," Bobby "Blue" Bland. Sly Stone. Jimi Hendrix. Rick James. Otis Redding. Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Bob Marley, Miles. I cannot name all.

Soul. Black folks have it, white folks have it. Everyone can have it, it ain't color specific. I do not, generally, like rap music. I don't find any warmth there, much of a pocket. I'm not going to disparage it because I know it means a lot to many and I'm not looking to pick a fight here.

But I will say, Gary Clark Jr. is a breath of fresh air in today's musical landscape, as is Christone "KingFish" Ingram. I love hearing the brothers with soulful voices lay down beautiful blues in the rich tradition of the greats, and I wish there was more of it. Maybe it will come back one day.

God bless everyone.

\m/

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Submitted by Jack_O_Roses 0420 on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 19:42

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BTK - So glad to see you include Son House in your pantheon, he's (unfortunately) one of the forgotten greats. I know that Muddy Waters (among others) held him in high regard as one of his idols but you rarely see his name mentioned with the truly original masters such as Robert Johnson, Leadbelly, etc.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 21:01

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Yeah they're pretty similar, the Miracle riff and the Truckin' jam.
The Truckin' jam is distinguishable as the part they play while Bobby, sings "hey now get back Truckin' on" (except they continue jamming to it for a few minutes after he stops singing).

It is, as someone stated, a common driving Blues riff, but it doesn't always sound so obviously like Miracle as it does on 9/8/73, because they don't always accent the same beats (specifically, Bobby throws a couple of quarter notes into the second measure to transform the Truckin' riff into Miracle). This happens from time to time in a lot of versions of Truckin', where someone throws those quarter notes in. Pigpen actually does it with the Hammond on the E72 Bickershaw Truckin' between 6:48 and 7:15.

The first time I remember catching a little bit of this was on the Truckin' from the 30 Trips Around the Sun, Lindley Meadows show, 1975. It seems to pop up from time to time, but perhaps not so prominently as on this current release. It all comes full circle to how fricken loud Bobby is on DaP 38. Otherwise, the call to Miracle would have been something happening deep in the mix, as it has a bunch of times before in the 175 versions of Truckin' we now have. Wow... do I really need that many? Great question for another time....

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 06:08

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Thanks for posting that footage Billy The Kid. Never saw it. I love these rare 60s clips when you see a very animated Jerry onstage. Has anyone read if they tripped every performance? I've always had a fascination with what take on stage.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 07:01

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Very cool.. at first I did a double take.. a 4:40 Morning Dew?

Choppy video but very cool.

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 07:17

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in Germany. That was pretty quick, again.
What a grateful day!!!

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Submitted by simonrob on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 07:27

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In the Netherlands. UPS tracking had said it arrived in the country on Saturday and today it was delivered. Shipping notice was received on April 30. Quick!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 07:51

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Great hear. I still haven't been able to finish my first proper listen. Sending some good vibes and listening synergy. It is a bit of a relief to see a little more equity in receipt timing.

Makes for a happy Tuesday.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 08:55

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somewhere in the US, I was 4 years old

Jerry-cise! look at him go!

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Submitted by nappyrags on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 09:26

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I was very lucky to see Kaleidoscope as often as I did in So Cal as they opened quite a few shows I attended...those LP's you mentioned and especially "Beacon From Mars" are killer as you say...It's too bad Lindley seems not to want to acknowledge that band, something to do with ca$h of course which is his right...Some years ago a friend took a vintage vinyl copy of "Beacon" and a new copy of the two CD retrospective of Kaleidoscope to a gig Lindley was doing in Santa Fe NM and he politely told my friend he wouldn't sign those for him...anything else no problem...too bad....

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Submitted by nappyrags on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 09:36

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No I wasn't at that particular show...I only ventured South a few times back then...one memorable show was the Danny Kirwan/Christine Perfect led version of Fleetwood Mac at the Sports Arena down there...while looking through some stuff I had come across on Google Images I saw the poster for another Rose Palace show that happened a few weeks before the one I talked about earlier...the bill was The Butterfield Blues Band (Keep On Moving was the current release for him) Grateful Dead and opening was some band from England called Jethro Tull...I did see The Carlos Santana Blues Band (as they were then called) at the Rose Palace opening for Procul Harum...Porcul was touring behind "Salty Dog"...being Chicano me and my buds flipped out on Santana!

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