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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Love will draw an elephant through a key-hole………

    Mornin’, rockers!

    Pick Of The Day: Woodstock, August 16, 1969

    Is this the elephant in the room? LOL I think there may have been many elephants in the many rooms of the Grateful Dead…………….

    It may be more insightful to ask, what were the expectations? By this time, the Dead had released only three albums. Yes, they had played the Boston-New York-Philly corridor, and yes they already had a “reputation”, but how many in attendance had actually seen or heard the band? And truth be told, sometimes what is astounding before 3,000 people at the Fillmore West has less impact upon 300,000 people in a field in New York.

    Chaos reigns. Late night, muddy field, misbehaving electricity, equipment issues, long delays, “tripped out jabber”, bad acid, hordes of people. Truncated St Stephen, decent Star, raucous Lovelight. Judging by the reaction at the close of their set, it sounds like those who were awake and paying attention enjoyed it. Did anybody there expect anything different?

    It is true that the Dead didn’t always “play up” to historic occasions. For the Dead, the Summer of 1969 was an uneven time, so this fits right in, and in its own uneven way it is “historic”. Certainly not classic, but not the piece of elephant poo it was rumored to be back in the day. Decide for yourself, there are excellent recordings out there……………..

    If you've never seen an elephant ski, you've never been on acid.

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Nature's great masterpiece, an elephant; the only harmless great thing.

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    Nice Work Bluecrow

    Phishers beware.

    Enjoyed 8/4/82, these recordings are good. Really good FOD, yes, that Stagger Lee is great BC. I think rare at the time. Good extended LLR. Never Trust a Women, nice Terrapin. You can hear Jerry's voice not being what it once was, but, the song still moves me. Solid finish, NFA, BP, Around and Around, Good Lovin and close it out with US Blues. Great show.

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    8/3/69 Sax & Violin

    Charles Lloyd is playing the saxophone, and David Laflamme( Its a Beautiful Day), is playing the Violin.

  • JimInMD
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    Thanks BlueCrow

    ...but what I really wanted was that number for cheap loans. I planned to visit VGuy and double my money and then pay it off.

  • Oroborous
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    Yeah, that was weird?

    But luckily McBluCrow to the rescue!

    5/24/70: aw-ight?? Sounded a tad thin. H2H, Attics!, Cryptical, sweet Dark Star!
    Lol, like how you can hear someone say “watch where your going motherfucker” in DS just before the shimmering cymbals.
    Not so familiar with 70 to rank, but compared to the official releases on Good, Better, Best scale I’d call it a good.
    But maybe I forgot some things after the next one!

    8/3/69: I sure hope this one’s in that Banana Box!!
    The precision, tuning etc might not be as top shelf as the legends, but holy crap Batman this could be my favorite show from 69? Sax and violin and jazzy jams etc: Dark Star, are you kidding me! Who was that playing sax, dude either to prep a little, or he got it. Like when to play versus not etc. High Time, sloppy but funHi Heeled Sneakers, H2H, BIODTL, and no Me & My Uncle! Yep, this one needs more exploration!
    Once again the good doctor has taken us where we might not have gone otherwise , which is why I’m here!

    7/25/82: I hit that not too long ago BC. Seem to recall started a little slow, eventually built up. Outta Good, Better, Best I’d call it a good? Hope to find the right time to hit the Rain Rocks shows, but might need to wait a bit…

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    I always thought the outside of Cali part of summer '82 tour started with the 3 shows in "Rain Rocks". Damn - there's a show in the low desert of AZ. Set list looks fat. No SBD circulating but a very recent Miller upgrade to a Jim Vita audience, a Jim Wise source also, plus others.

    8/4 is fun. Yeah DV, it was a great tour.

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    bounty of whitewater riches out there Jim. another beautiful deep river valley.

    for whatever reason, I always seem to forget about the St Louis show (8/4) in the summer '82 tour. The Stagger Lee was one of 2 songs of filler on my audience of Set I - 8/8., and partially for that reason, and also since its hot, its a favorite Stagger Lee. Can't help but think that Set II predrumz is "missing" a song or 2. I forgot that there was a Set II Brent opener this show just like Set II 8/8.

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    a wide net they cast. following is what was inadvertently caught up and "lost" and now restored (bluecrow the archivist).

    1) JiminMD - Bad Timing
    I find it in poor taste and bad timing that we get this incredible offer for cheap loans AFTER the box set announcement. Where were you when Boxzilla came out? On the other hand.. this might come in handy for those that could not afford The Grateful Dead in NYC Box, so now's your chance. Might as well get a little extra so you can get that ivory back scratcher you always wanted.
    I realize as soon as go through the Crapatcha and hit send they will remove the cheap loans spam post and I will look like a bigger raging lunatic than I actually am.
    Out and about today.. Today's show is a drummer choice... grabbing a waterproof shuffle and we will see where it brings me. Venturing into another state, a grand adventure in wild and wonderful West Virginia. I loaded up my devices with killer music in the spring as I do each year. What I grab is pure chance, they are unlabeled. Have a good weekend rest of the weekend all. Play Dead.

    2) bluecrow - hey - he loaned me 20 bills
    can't be all bad
    Jim - I always thought of you as a thoughtful and deliberate lunatic. If you're down on the Gauley please say hello to the spirit of John Dragan for me.
    I saw the May '91 Cal Expo shows the week before those Shoreline shows. Jerry was in fine form. Had a lot of fun. No Bruce, and given these were the only shows I saw in the Bruce/Vince era never did get to see him full on with Jerry. Funny thing was I saw Bruce as a guest with the Dead twice - 1st Buckeye Lake 6/88 and second GW Forum 12/89. Could have hung out for a week and hit Shoreline but headed back up the coast. Oh well, couldn't believe I missed It takes a lot to laugh (plus 3 sweet shows). Remember really good post-space ballads nights 1 and 2. When Blair Jackson reviewed the shows he evidently felt same as me and dubbed the first night Stella Blue "Stella Dew" and 2nd night Standing on the Moon "Standing on the Dew". 2nd night was really buzzy - found myself with a bunch of coyote howling crazies out in front of the stacks to right. Weir looked our way at some point Set II maybe during Space and seemed to say What's up with you wacky folks?" 3rd show was afternoon I think and had a fine Trucking > short Spanish Jam > Terrapin leading into Drumz. Ganz broadcast it on DeadHour and you can find it paired with material from 1st night Seattle '95 (Want To Tell). It's on relisten/archive.
    The only 1/2 way focused listening I did yesterday was Set I and Scarlet > Fire from 12/3/79 DaP 31(I'll say it again, an awesome release.)
    Take care everybody. Onward is the only way right now.

    3) Oroborous -8/4/82
    Keeping with our group enjoyment of August 82 etc, I figured I back up 8/1 with this one.
Another status quo 8/82 show (in a good way, this tour is solid!).
Decent Stranger Friend O openers, nice upbeat Row Jimmy. Never Trust/Good Times unusual second set opener, nice Terrapin and what is it with these 82 Black Pete’s! Perhaps not a tour topper but a fine show non the less!

    4) JiminMD - 8/4/82 & Assorted Snacks
    Classic fall '82 Oro. Nice recording, a little thin at times, but fuller than most from this period, plus very clean.
Good performance too. What the heck happened to Healy after '82? I guess I was not a fan of the ultramix.
    Thanks BlueCrow. We did the mighty Cheat today with decent water. It's only 20 miles or so away so a local run, but it's a decent sized canyon so between the river and shuttle it's an all-day affair. The dam on the river I live on is broken.., they cannot release enough water for a run meaning we are completely dependent on rainfall this year (well for another three weeks). The Yough is dry, but the Cheat (the next river West) is flowing strong. It must have rained a lot somewhere the last couple days.
    Sweet Brown Eyed Women from 8/4 just kicked in. Love that song.. a Hunter/Garcia classic. It reeks Americana, the song is rich in symbolism and covers such a broad tapestry it almost feels like it was written about people I know (or their parents, but they made their kids cut hickory just to fire the still). There's plenty of moonshine to be had in the mountains out here and people still fire their stills. Delilah Jones went to meet her God, and the old man's never been the same again. Goodness.. goosebumps.
    Looks like this old man's gettin' on. I've got about one beer to go before I am in horizontal happiness. Man.. Cutting hickory for firewood. That's an arduous affair, Hickory is no fun to cut and split.

    5) DeadVikes - 8/4/82
    Will get this rolling today, Kiel Auditorium. This is a great tour.

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    It looks like the blew away a bunch of our posts..

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    Jer bear sounded strong outta the gate with a spirited Jack Straw. But then he seemed to step back into the mix for awhile? Solid first set but it seemed a bit rushed to me. Rushed compared to fast if that makes sense?
    But solid versions especially Bob with a nice Desolation.
    The second set things settle in nicely and the pre drumz half is especially good! I’ve really increasingly appreciating these 91 and especially 92 CrazyFingers! No matter what era or what was going on it seems like JG always had at least one song that he consistently owned!
    The back side is fine too, perhaps just a tad more formulaic? Though nice touch ending with the Baby Blue!
    Sweet energetic jam outta Pete too.
    Audio was good throughout, perhaps the highs were a tad dull? The mix was decent once he got it dialed in etc.
    overall another good outing from 91, and part of another Solid WE at the Heap!

    Onto 8/1/82: good start but audio (keys too hot in TLEO?) it’s early…

    EDIT: 8/1/82 fully dug!
    Fun at the zoo with Bob ready to let all the animals loose!
    Another solid 82 outing! Sound got dialed in nicely, mix was decent cept took awhile to get Brent’s keyboard dialed up (too hot), organ didn’t seem to suffer same? Good start and status quo continual morphing as she goes!
    Personal highlight perhaps the Black Pete? Was watering plants etc so, did I miss a happy biffday for Jer, don’t recall hearing anything?
    Good show, yes MR DV 82 is surely growing on me while fostering lament: wish I had caught a few more shows back then, but being a roadie was not able : ( Yin/yang.
    Not sure how I compare this? Decent, to say 5/23, 8/6, 8/7&8, but not not like biggest thrill/surprise so far: the second Veneta, 8/28/82. Must listen 82 if your exploring 82!
    Don’t forget the Florida shows PT turned us onto, and 9/24/82 merits consideration, looking forward to tge MSG box shows I’m not familiar with, but perhaps the “king of the hill, top of the heap”, Frost not NY ; ), 10/9& 10/82!! Have waited to hear 10/9 for years, but have had a awesome tape from 10/10 since BITD! Best LL Rain? ; )
    Yeah, “don’t let the glasses fool ya” 82 baby! Boo-yah! Ha, and that’s not even considering the shows from earlier in the year!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Interesting first set, second ok, went with ok aud, better recording might of helped...
Good background working music...

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Classics.

With the weather improving day by day... and many of us getting vaccinated and moving about.. it's getting more and more difficult to pull off the infamous DHBrewer Hattrick.

But we carry on the best we can...

Let's do it Jim. Which show did you have in mind. All four of them are outstanding. I think we did 5/26/72 at some point. But that doesn't preclude us from doing it again.

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How about 5/25 and for extra credit the China Rider through PITB from 5/24?

A great run of shows...

Edit: Of course we could just do them both, in fact I think I will. Keithfan just posted this on the Dave's Picks page regarding 5/24.. which contains my personal favorite China Rider of the tour. I just love how silky smooth the transition is on this one.

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Last Lovelight

5/24/72 - night two of the Lyceum run, but more notably, the anniversary of Pigpen's last Lovelight. It's my favorite. They streamline it down to a smooth 12 minutes that includes some Allman-like jamming, which was par for the course for Lovelight by '72; but unlike its two counterpart versions from the tour, they get into that great 'doot-doot-doo' melody at10:05. Pigpen's improvised lyrics over this quiet drumless guitar / bass melody are some of the best. Nothing about refrigerator repair men or pocket ball or legs-up-against the-wall. This one is....ahem....closer to the heart. Don't have that E72 show? No problem - it's on Rockin' the Rhein as well (bonus track). To Pigpen.

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Sounds like a good plan. I will hit up 5/24 today and 5/25 tomorrow.

In the meantime I have been listening to the first set of 6/20/91. Nice show, I believe Download Series #11.

Will switch over to 5/24/72.

Got through 5/24 and the first set of 5/25. Simply wow. Great shows.. which leaves the spectacular second set of 5/25 tomorrow and 5/26/73 Kezar Stadium for Wednesday.

It's a mind blown week, and it's only Monday.

But back to 5/24/72.. one of the under-rated, sleeper shows of arguably one of great tours ever performed. Do not underestimate this one.. from Cold Rain and Snow to OMSN, it's start finish greatness.

I got a hoot out of KFan's lovelight comments. I had my eyes on 4/26 and 5/7. To me, they still ring true, but the Lovelight>Two Souls is really classic stuff.. and in a great way highlights the end of the Pigpen era. This tour is simply magic in a bottle, pick your show and you can find yourself.. the under-rated shows are really appealing.. Lille, this show, Munich,... so many. Great stuff.

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Finished this up yesterday afternoon Jim and I agree great show. Also liked the Truckin into the Other One and then into Sing Me Back Home. And we had a little WRS tease in this show.

On to 5/25/72!

Oh and when will that box be announced??

I saw a post last week they will be doing a MUATM this year.!

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Yes, I noticed that too. On to the second set of 5/25 for me.

Have a good day everyone...

I guess we should set up a go fund me for GOGD.. clearly he has not been able to make his $6 bail..

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The better of the two shows. The second set is sublime..

Hope you all are having a good week.

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Enjoyed 5/25 as well. Nice Good Lovin, The UJB ,Wharf Rat, Dark Star into Sugar Mag are really good.

Of the four Lyceum shows 5/26 is my favorite. I won't hit that one up today as I need to change it up a bit.

Moving on to Kezar today Jim? They have the reels for this one now after the ABCD transaction, I hope it comes out at some point.

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Yes to Kezar.. agree on 5/26, but I hit this one up about a month ago. Plus.. a good bit of it was released with E72.

I haven't listened to Kezar in years, so it will be a good listen.

Our go fund me to get GOGD out on bail is up to $4.50.. so we only need a buck and a half to get him out of prison on six dollars bail. Things should pick up a bit here when he's back.

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Put me down for a $1.50 Jim.

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72 (listened a year or two ago)
73 (listened over the past weekend +)

95 (my final in-person GD show)

here's another $1.50, JiminMD

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My brother went to this show, he saw Garcia and Peter Grant ( The pedal steel player on Aoxomoxoa), standing on the side of the stage watching Ralph Mooney, the pedal steel player in Waylon Jennings band play.

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The sports guy for a local Bay Area TV station has been reporting from the "vinyl room" at his home during Covid. He has albums lining 2 walls that he changes out every day.

I couldn't help but notice the absence of a certain San Francisco band that people seem to like around here. Just figured they weren't his cup of tea.

Wrong - check this out (scroll until you get to the panel under the 10:53 PM marker, then play). Get ready to hit the pause button after the ads to check out his display!

https://archive.org/details/KTVU_20210526_050000_The_Ten_Oclock_News_on…

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At the time I was a teenager having a ball in 'Swinging London' (some parts of it were still Swinging in '72) and lucked into a job with Apple Records as a general gofer which put me right in the middle of the London music scene. Just for added fun I had a part-time job at the Marquee Club three nights a week. With a girlfriend who worked for another record company and a flatmate musician working with a music biz management team you can imagine I was never short of some live action.
I had been to the first of the Wembley shows in April '72 and dug it enough to look forward to the Dead's return in May. Now it gets a bit vague regarding dates but I had tickets for one of the Lyceum shows which was even better than the Wembley gig. But then the next day at work one of the Beatles' resident chauffeurs (either Alf or Lou, they were both usually around) happened to mention if anyone wanted to go see the Dead that night he had an invite he could pass on; I think I remember there was a connection to Don Murfitt who was known around town for security at the major shows and would have been known to the Beatles' entourage. I doubt there were many Deadheads at Apple at that time but I jumped at it and went along for the second night in a row.
Except this time I had to report to the backstage door with a message for someone on the crew; I can't remember the secret password but it got me in with a right royal reception and was promptly invited to lick the back of the hand of one of the crew which I duly did although the girlfriend declined. From there on this Deadhead was in heaven for quite a few hours tripping on the best acid I ever had and marveling at the night sky as the theater had a giant sliding roof that opened which seemed entirely the thing to do for Dark Star.
Somewhere around two in the morning, the Dead were still playing but the girlfriend was getting bored and demanded to be taken home; being the true gent I was (still am) I insisted on taking her across town in a taxi and then took same taxi home, the total cost of which was equal to a weeks' wages back then (she was hot though, worth looking after for sure).
But it was all worth it.
I can't honestly remember which two of the four nights I attended but I do know I was never quite the same after.
Anyway, I now live in Australia and much water has passed under many bridges. The girlfriend was eventually replaced with an even hotter one (that I married) and my career took a turn from the music business to the motor trade leading to working on race cars until I retired to the beach but I have all four Lyceum shows to listen to over and over and am still out there enjoying every second.
So if I still say I consider the Europe '72 shows are my favorite period of my entire GD collection you will understand there is good reason.
Thanks guys.

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Thanks for sharing @Chris Martin, that's great stuff.

Anybody else instantly think, "I wanna help Chris figure out which of the 4 shows he was at." ?

I couldn't help thinkin' that.
Would love to hear more about backstage scene and how that all went down.
What a trip!

Far out.

Bolo's tellin' us to watch the sports guy for some epic glimpses of SF's favorite hometown band memorabilia.

And May '72 is in the air.

Good to be back in town catchin' up on what's been goin' down.

Don't tell me this town ain't got no heart...

Sold for a buck & a quarter.

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Very cool story.. made my night just to read it.

GOGD.. good to see you back.

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Wow! What a story. Can't imagine what it would have been like to be in London at that time in 72. Great stuff! But wait, you left before the show was over? Okay, I can understand, you had a good reason.
Thanks for sharing.

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Kezar 73 is still top stuff. A few audience patches throughout, but the recording is great. Official release when it comes out will be even better.

Everybody hang loose.

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Chris-great review - sounds very special. I also left a Dead show in London early due to a fed up girlfriend on 10/31/90.
I'd do it again, too. Must be something in the water.

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How about 7/7/89?

July 89 is as good as Bobby says it was. Such high levels. You could even watch this one on Video if you have it.

I believe Keithfan was in attendance.

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great show

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Ha, sportscasters name is Ibanez!

Chris, great story!

5/21, 22, 23/82: did the run, The 21st seemed a tad tame for a Friday, but the Sunday was more like a Friday! All good shows, but I thought they got better progressively...really liked Sunday, Rocking!
5/25/72: don’t have all,of the 24 and the streaming offerings were lacking so went with the 25th, which was nice...72 Dawwwkk, Stawwww!

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"wahh! I'm bored! sacrifice your happiness for me! I don't care if you bought the tickets and we invested time and energy and money and anticipation! wahh! I wanna go home!"

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Re leaving the Lyceum gig while the Dead were still playing, I have three excuses:
1 - I had been to the show the night before and having a regular day job too even I was burning the candle both ends.
2 - She was a red hot babe and I thought I was in love so yes, I always gave her what she wanted (even walking out on the Dead) but she was worth it.
3 - At that age it did not occur to me that I might have to wait two years until they came back - Alexandra Palace September '74 - so leaving early did not seem like a crime.
The really strange thing was when I got home - about 3am - I was still tripping and I leaned out the window of my apartment in Finchley which is about 9 miles from the Lyceum and I was sure I could hear the band still playing. Whatever I had heard earlier that evening the acid made sure the show went on in my head for quite some time after.
Anyway, as I said I did not buy the tickets, it was a free pass and I doubt I missed much after 2am, I think the night before they finished soon after 2ish, maybe 2.30, but yeah, lesson learned I don't think I took her to see the Dead again.

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GOGD asked what was it like backstage? Well allowing for the fact that this was nearly fifty years ago and my memory may not be completely unaffected by the intake of various substances over the years but some details I do remember. I was told to report to the door at the back of the stage, which I did, I think it was red but I can't remember if it was open or did I have to ring a bell? Someone let us in, I guess I must have said who sent me or something similar but I was immediately made welcome like an old friend. I do clearly remember the door led directly to the back of the stage and I was immediately aware of a large scaffolding frame right in front of me towering up to the roof which was filled with speakers. The area was mostly in darkness but I was sure I saw most of the band hanging around, and several of the crew seemed busy running around although as this was not the first night of the four night run (I was there the night before too) I doubt they would have had a lot to do setting up the gear. It was one of them who told me to lick his hand. Certainly the Dead must have traveled with their own supplies and it was the real deal, it took effect fairly soon after and lasted all night, clean and clear with no downside. Whoever it was who let us in asked if we wanted to stick around, I think there were a few flat wooden benches behind the stage, and drinks and smokes were being passed around but we would not have been able to see the band on stage from there so we were let through a side door to the main auditorium.
As for what nights I attended, I really could not say. I do know they were two consecutive nights and I had to go to work the next day after both so that rules out the 26th which was a Friday (I did not work Saturday). I would probably have been eager enough when tickets went on sale to have bought for the first night (23rd) so the next would have been the 24th but that is only guessing. It could have been 24th and 25th. I have all four CDs just to be sure I have the ones I was at and they all still sound great, but having been to other shows and after all this time I can't honestly remember what they played or maybe more relevant, what they left out. New Riders of the Purple Sage were on the same shows and there was a lot of waiting around between sets so probably the Dead did not start playing until very late.
One thing I should be ....ahem...."Grateful" for is that with hindsight many still think Europe '72 saw the band at their best and certainly on the evidence of the recordings available they were on top form.

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This show has a great flow to it. That Box of Rain still gives me chills.
Finished up the last part of the show on DVD. Wish we had more shows on DVD.

Who has a pick for today? Bob t?

I don't think we will see a box announcement until August, but hey at least they released the Garden Club???
I remember when this site was packed with music.

Enjoy it.

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with checking out shows I’ve never heard, 5/12/74. A lil 74 goodness for a Fri- day!
Perhaps later, 3/25/83 depending on chever way?

Hopefully Doc will lead us all on more 71 adventures Saturday and Sunday?

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A great show. I like energy of the close to the first set.. say from Memphis Blues through Blow Away.

I'm all in with OroB's lead. Either show is fine. 5/12 is the windy show where the stacks of speakers over Bills head were swinging wildly and it freaked him out. They changed the setup going forward. I can see why it spooked him.
Sometime I want to draw us back to an earlier time... something off the beaten tracks with a good Smokestack or School Girl.

It's raining here, but we need the rain. Lots of vacationers starting to show up and fill the town. Rivers are running.. what's a guy to do?

Happy Friday everyone. Do something extraordinary.

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How about some gardening?

while you wear your pretty little apron, listen to 5/12/74. You'll be glad you did.

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5/12/74 ✔️ Interesting sequence in the last set, good sheeet mon. Overall perhaps not top 74 tier, but a fine show though the version I went with was not...

3/25/83✔️ Strider recommended so I had to check it out. Good energy, Bob even comments at some point about hopefully we can keep it going....first H-S-F, good set list, but again, the tape got weird for part of it....

So I was going to hop on the Doc train and go with 5/29/71 today, but I drank some cider and now I feel funny?

Chris - thanks for sharing that very cool story. that's some sweet happenings

Jim - thanks for suggesting that Lyceum run. had not really been on my radar compared to many of the shows on the continent. total eye opener. a magnificent 4 nights.

Senator Oro - spring '83. early on I had clean board of 4/17 Set II. It is smoking from the opening notes of H>S>F. great great tape.

DV - will have to check out 7/7/89. I was elsewhere during most of that year.

glad all it took was a $6 to spring GOGD from the pokey.

someone mentioned Fox Atlanta 5/18/77 I think (PF?) seemed like Set I was a pretty slow pace for that tour. High Time might be the slowest I've ever heard. Something seems to "change" in Estimated and holy moly the eyes of the World that follows is fantastic with an expansive opening jam by Jerry and beautiful soloing between verses. gorgeous.

finally had a mind meld with DaP 38. had been spinning it in my car for awhile - pretty okay but a bit sharp. But one evening relaxed and with Sennheisers it was like the mix totally changed - unbelievably smooth and sweet. Curious if I'll be able to find that spot easily again. I do think there are a couple of somewhat rough patches that may have come from another show - Bobby's guitar jumps from right to dead center for brief periods.

enjoy the weekend and be safe everybody

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Damn that “cider” was strong! ; )
Just starting to feel right again, phewww
Another fine show. Perhaps not quite the Thunder of the years previous shows, but there’s some cool, almost DS like exploring during some of the out jams, I guess particularly TOO...
More of the laid back home town vibe versus the coke induced overdrive of some of the east coast shows.
Did the Aud for most of the first section, and the CM SB for the rest.
Both are flawed but I didn’t mind the Aud, back in the day we would have been happy as it’s got a good mix etc, and though it has Winterlands unique room coloring, it’s not bad.
The SB was mostly good but had some level/distortion issues.
These 71s are growing on me.
Onto 5/30 today.

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The famous cider show at Winterland.

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Another fine Lil 71 show. Didn’t have the cool jam of the previous but a solid show except for shug megs, ouch..
Good helping of pork, pass the napkins please, including a somewhat rare but nice Rub, and a spicey LL.
Cool little Dew in the first, And!,... it’s got a Cumberland!
Tapes were similar to the 29th: Aud for first section, SB for rest. The Aud was worse though than the previous, and I almost didn’t listen, but wanted to hear this at least once. Like most, eventually I was able to get past it and entrain with the music, but it suffered more from venue sonic anomalies than the previous night. The SB was mostly good, perhaps an occasional clipping instrument, but usually short duration.
Ok, hopefully we’ll see Doc (and Strider ; ) here on the 21st!

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but the cider was strong..

A bit behind having made the best of a strong holiday weekend. I was dependent on waterproof, bike and river devices for much of my listening this weekend.. which do not get updated based on this thread very often. I did find myself once again enthralled with 5/23 and 5/24/1969 a week after it's aniversary. I have to admit though.. hearing disc 2 into disc 3 you get a He Was a Friend of Mine, Death Don't Have No Mercy and Morning Dew almost back to back.. I was thinking, is something really bad just about to happen to me? So I had to switch it up a little and fast forwarded into the 80's for the end of the weekend.

I might re-hit William and Mary this week too. I only had one decent listen of that one since it came out.

Hope you all had as good a weekend as you could. What's the show du jour?

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is thing on?
Mornin’ Jim,
Did 7/25/74 for the first time yesterday.
Nice little show, would make a good Dave’s.....

Was thinking of continuing on with my quest for unheard shows, and specifically 4/9/83.
Been digging spring 83 lately, especially some of the awesome Auds!

Ooops, sorry PF, you weren’t there before lol

Sounds like a plan. I am in a 76 mood today.. so there's that.

As for 4/9/83.. happy to do that one. I was there. I might have to conjure up a tall tale from the cobwebs of my failing memory.

I tried to bring to life the next night a few weeks ago. If you have ever seen both venues (Hampton and Morgantown Coliseums), the are remarkably similar. In the right frame of mind, you might mistake them or UFO's (or are they)? I did miss 4/10 which is silly because it was closer to where I was living at the time. Morgantown is the closest 'city' to where I live now, I have a soft spot for the Mountaineers.

I am only seeing the second set that circulates for this show, at least through Relisten. Would love to check it out. And 83 is always worth a listen. Thanks guys.

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I did Morgantown back when it came up as I had a tape bitd and was interested. Couldn't remember about it, perhaps good show, not so good tape? I did remember "the girl with lobotomy eyes" comment!
Heard a great ayd version this time around!
Been there a few times, some wild stories considering we were there to visit the "20 year olds" grandma...but never saw the dead there.
Heard this opening night Hampton was good, and it seems to be.
I'll try for 76 later...

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Doah, dbl time...

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Aside from a 20 minute appearance at the Human Be-In on January 14, 1967, I always thought 11/10/1973 was my first "official" Dead show. I recently had the opportunity to go through some of my late brother's belongings. Lo and behold, I found a ticket stub glued to a piece of paper with a caption - First Dead concert with "Bolo" (name changed to protect the guilty). I was floored for two reasons: 1) that he would keep something like that - not his nature, and 2) that I would have been wrong all these years.

So, in memory of my big bro', I propose 12/10/1972 for POTD on Thursday. Caveat: a big chunk of set 1 is missing, but the rest is pretty sweet.

R.I.P. brother

And so it is. Great story Bolo. I will fly my freak flag half mast.. and hopefully enjoy Thursday's show to the fullest.

I will be sure to play the good parts extra loud.

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My second show and the first one we travelled to. We had tickets, our plan was simple.. get to the show and get in.. then find someplace really cheap to sleep or drive East and sleep on the beach.

The show features the East Coast breakout of Help on the Way/Slipknot!/Franklin's Tower, played just twice earlier in the spring since the fall of '77. Great China Rider to close first set, high energy and good for the era. The other thing that stands out to me is how fresh the new material sounds. West LA, Brother Essau are Throwing Stones are just finding their place. A super fun and high energy show.

We ended up driving East without much of a plan and played on the beach till the sun came up magically without drawing any attention to ourselves.. then crawled back to this dive in either Va Beach or Newport News, I cannot recall.. the dive we slept in was called the Strawberry Motor Lodge, which I am sure is long gone by now. There might have been rain or mist involved too.. it was Spring, perhaps colder temps but somehow we made it to dawn outside before retreating for a couple hours sleep and the drive home. We should have just headed to Morgantown for the next show.

So ended my second show. My only birthday show and it might have been my only Satisfaction. I think I caught another Smokestack (maybe).. All in all a fun little show.

That's about all I can remember. There must have been something in us that made us want to stay up all night... my guess is fungalificaiton but all these years later I cannot be sure of anything.