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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    Net reply, V1, and outed by Jimbo!

    Dammit Jim, now my secret is out....part of why they put me in that dog getup, easier to contain!

    VAULT 1: what GOGD said “Thanks UA & Rackow: yeah, I member all the excitement when the first stuff started trickling out, and the quality, Oy! Funny now how we critique many of the earlier generation releases now, but back then it was like gettin some when you were young!

    DEADVIKES: if you have the wire in your house, id try just hardwiring stuff and adding a net switch. That shouldn’t cost you that much and it should help. Later you can always upgrade the other components if you want, but hardwiring stuff will help with any application. (To see what wire you have find your phone distribution point. There should be a at least one wire per room. If there is several of the same type, it should be marked on the side. If it’s cat 5 or better your good to go.

    Ok, now time to fire up 8/13/75!

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    What a First Set!!

    Can only imagine what it was like to see this band back then, literally :)

    That's gotta be up there with greatest ever Set 1.. if there is such a thing
    EDIT: Forgot 3/2/69 in my excitement.. so never mind the "greatest ever" language, Great Set 1!

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    I Think We Should Thank United Artist & Mr. Ron Rakow

    Sleigh Bells Ring, are you listening?

    I can still remember how excited I was when they announced One From The Vault

    When I got the 2 CD set (which is next to me and has very small print that I can barely read now, but no "Disc Rot";) and listened to the music contained within it was a revelation:

    This show is amazing! And it's complete and sounds incredible! This is how it could be! This could change everything! I could get all the shows sounding like this! They might release like a show a month or something! It's going to be off the hook! How will I afford it all?!?!

    1991 the flood gates opened
    with a trickle..

    pretty cool

    PS -
    The Sleigh Bells in Slipknot!
    The Harmonies in The Music Never Stopped..
    Oh Boy!
    I love this show:)

    Be Well All, got some Fun Listening to do today.

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    Make Believe Ballroom

    Was a radio show for many years on WNEW radio NY. I gather it started about 1935, movie was made under that title in 49. Steve Allen ran the show for a while also.

    Goog the name. The things we can learn here.

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    8/13/75 great choice

    This tape is what pulled me in. It's interesting if you have ever heard the full intro, where Bill Graham talks about Ron Rakow and his bet with him that he was being paid 50$. It is right after, "We welcome you on behalf of the group".... After listening to the intro version of one from the vault and what I had on my Make Believe Ballroom tape, it just sounds weird because the intro is awesome!! bob t

  • daverock
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    8/13/75 on the radio

    An hour of this show was broadcast on British radio sometime late in 1975. Consequently, my first Dead tape.

  • The Good Ole G…
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    Good stuff!

    JIMINMD - Make Believe Ballroom pretty “famous” early bootleg record of 8/13/75 from the Amazing Kornyfone Record Label.

    I think they fetch a pretty penny from collectors these days.

    Cool info here - http://www.gratefulseconds.com/2018/02/?m=1

    Fun Discussions tonight all.

    Good info and Good tunes tomorrow.

    Until then be well

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    Yes, this is the ticket for tomorrow.

    Oroborous, appreciate the information.

    Sounds like I am not in the league of your customers, which is okay. I am more of the pub links player. Anyway, at a minimum it sounds like I should invest in a new router and modem with the extra Wifi connections around the house.

    Do you wonder why I like the old school wired system playing CDs.

    Do you know how much time I have spent on the phone with Sonos customer service??

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    Ha.. Re: Net Wiring

    Aren't we all geeks in our own way? I couldn't help but read that whole post, much of it lost on me.

    But it lead me to a conclusion. Correct.. Oro, you are not an IT professional. ..but perhaps a bot. not a Russian Bot or a Facebook Bot.. our own SF peace bot.

    I mean that in the most respectful way, hope I did not offend. In a way, Oroborous.. you are all we have in our freak fight against the tyrannists and enemies. We need our own bot.

    Sorry for the diversion. Again, meant with the utmost respect and hopefully a perceived tread of good nature and humor.

    Cousins, thanks for that info.. So that's the source of that language on my tape. Does anyone know the source? The Great American Music Hall is not called the Make Believe Ballroom, right? Was this just a clever name for a bootleg LP to get it past the TM and Copyright folks? There must be another half of this story.

    I guess it doesn't matter if we don't solve this riddle, but how on earth did that LP get it's name?

    Nite all.

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    To those not interested, please skip and except my apologies

    First, disclaimer: I am not a IT, computer, or network professional, in fact, when it comes to computers I’m way behind the curve. That being said, I am a custom AV professional which usually requires installing commercial grade networks in the home. I’ve done hundreds over the years. So I have a lot of experience using many AV products both wireless and hard wired. Why, because when you have home automation, Lighting, HVAC, Pool/spas, Security, AV, gaming, WiFi and more on one home network that’s a lot of bandwidth, no matter how many MBS/gigs your paying for. Your network is the foundation that all your net gear lives and depends on. You wouldn’t build your house on a cardboard foundation so you shouldn’t build your network on a insufficient one either!
    SONOS: you are correct that one of the main selling points for Sonos or any of the “wireless” audio products is reasonable stability over WiFi (of course always depending on service. Just like your water main the pipe is only so big)...the biggest of all reasons Sonos is ahead of the pack is their user interface. So with decent service you can certainly enjoy over WiFi, but like you mentioned if everyone is on line at the same time it’s like having every water facet and toilet going at once...,the pipe is only so big...streaming of course is the biggest drain of all.
    I won’t get all in on the phsycics, and I’d probably do a lousy job, but generally, a properly hardwired connection is going to be better: faster, less latency, more BW, and certainly more stable/reliable. I’ve seen situations where the IT guy had me disconnect a HW feed and use a meshed WAP, but that’s mostly because the WiFi gear was new, robust, and of course somewhat oversold lol. The wiring and switches were ancient crap....I may have been trying to use only four conductors which limits you to only 10/100. But that’s only happened a few times in 13 years!
    By comparison our nets are at least 1-5 gig capable, but our bigger new jobs have been 10 gig to try and future proof (as much as that’s possible anymore). Often these start getting into fiber, But I digress...
    Also, even if it’s not that time of day when the whole neighborhood is sucking on basically the same pipe, I’m sure you’ve still experienced huge speed drops, latency, and even severe buffering etc when the whole family is using all those wireless devices. So the more things you can take off WiFi and hardwire, the more those HW devices will benefit from the “bigger pipe” that the wire usually provides, but at the same time, the devices that are still over WiFi will also work better because removing streaming devices off essentially provides “more pipe” for the remaining WiFi devices.
    It’s all about the pipe baby: bigger, faster, stronger...
    The last job I was on before the VID was over 10K Square foot house. It has Comcast gig plus service, using an upgraded surfboard modem, 4 port commercial Router, 4- 48 port Poe switches, Ruckus Zone Director to air traffic control bandwidth where need via the 16 commercial grade Ruckus WAPs (all hardwired on cat five or better). All critical infrastructure gear is on Bluebolts for remote ip monitoring and rebooting.
    Besides the 16 Crestron hardwired touchscreens, there are probably a dozen iPads for control of all house subsystems. The 20+ cameras are now all nest over wifi which is a huge bandwidth drain, but that’s what the owner wanted. Throw in all the personal devices of the owners and up to 15 guests, and six in house servants and five large equipment racks of gear (even amplifiers now are ip controlled) and that’s a shit ton of bandwidth. A normal home network would not function!
    Obviously I assume most folks don’t have those needs, but the infrastructure methodology is the same.

    So for a “typical” house (there is no such thing but for simplicity)
    - Best pipe (service) you can get. Preferably on fiber or Coax if possible.
    - Buy your own upgraded modem. For a couple hundred bucks that you’ll make up by not renting one.
    - Research and get best Router you can
    - Use strategic placement of WAPs over full cat 5 or better. Six is the norm, but we sometimes pull cat 7, 8, and/or fiber.
    This depends on how many floors, walls, building materials etc, square footage. Like much of this too much is better than not enough. Think brick shithouse from BITD...
    Usually the cat for your phones all homerun back to your headend or main distribution point. Depending on where that is and if there’s adequate power nearby, you can place all your gear there, or if possible, place a robust net switch there. Obviously for switch size you’ll need to figure out how many devices you’ll want to H.W. depending on how May wires you have. It’s usualky much easier to have at least enough Poe ports to power WAPs (make sure you’ll have enough wattage). You can find all kinds of wall trim to terminate similar to how your phone or net are trimmed on your walls, or if long enough wire just terminate RJ 45 etc. You’ll need to terminate all the ends at the net switch. A decent cable tester is a real help to ensure proper terminations. Inevitably you’ll need to test from end to end using all wires and splices/connections.
    So you have your service feed to your modem, a net cabl from modem to router, router to your switch or switches, and your WAPs hardwired to your switch (s). If done properly using good gear (find gear with specks way above what you think you need, it can be money well spent, remember, your trying to build a brick shithouse, not a cheap tent! ), you can make your network more robust, stable and therefore enjoyable! It’s like buying a car with a big engine, you don’t akways need it but when you do and you put the hammer down, you’ll be glad you have that headroom.
    Obviously many folks dont need so much, but even a additional switch with hardwired devices out of your provider modem can help when supply is getting stretched thin.
    No matter how big or small or what your needs are, always hardwire when possible! That’s what I’ve found works best, cause it’s all about the pipe!
    Hope this is understandable and helps. Sorry if I didn’t explain well.

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Interesting first set, second ok, went with ok aud, better recording might of helped...
Good background working music...

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Classics.

With the weather improving day by day... and many of us getting vaccinated and moving about.. it's getting more and more difficult to pull off the infamous DHBrewer Hattrick.

But we carry on the best we can...

Let's do it Jim. Which show did you have in mind. All four of them are outstanding. I think we did 5/26/72 at some point. But that doesn't preclude us from doing it again.

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How about 5/25 and for extra credit the China Rider through PITB from 5/24?

A great run of shows...

Edit: Of course we could just do them both, in fact I think I will. Keithfan just posted this on the Dave's Picks page regarding 5/24.. which contains my personal favorite China Rider of the tour. I just love how silky smooth the transition is on this one.

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Last Lovelight

5/24/72 - night two of the Lyceum run, but more notably, the anniversary of Pigpen's last Lovelight. It's my favorite. They streamline it down to a smooth 12 minutes that includes some Allman-like jamming, which was par for the course for Lovelight by '72; but unlike its two counterpart versions from the tour, they get into that great 'doot-doot-doo' melody at10:05. Pigpen's improvised lyrics over this quiet drumless guitar / bass melody are some of the best. Nothing about refrigerator repair men or pocket ball or legs-up-against the-wall. This one is....ahem....closer to the heart. Don't have that E72 show? No problem - it's on Rockin' the Rhein as well (bonus track). To Pigpen.

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Sounds like a good plan. I will hit up 5/24 today and 5/25 tomorrow.

In the meantime I have been listening to the first set of 6/20/91. Nice show, I believe Download Series #11.

Will switch over to 5/24/72.

Got through 5/24 and the first set of 5/25. Simply wow. Great shows.. which leaves the spectacular second set of 5/25 tomorrow and 5/26/73 Kezar Stadium for Wednesday.

It's a mind blown week, and it's only Monday.

But back to 5/24/72.. one of the under-rated, sleeper shows of arguably one of great tours ever performed. Do not underestimate this one.. from Cold Rain and Snow to OMSN, it's start finish greatness.

I got a hoot out of KFan's lovelight comments. I had my eyes on 4/26 and 5/7. To me, they still ring true, but the Lovelight>Two Souls is really classic stuff.. and in a great way highlights the end of the Pigpen era. This tour is simply magic in a bottle, pick your show and you can find yourself.. the under-rated shows are really appealing.. Lille, this show, Munich,... so many. Great stuff.

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Finished this up yesterday afternoon Jim and I agree great show. Also liked the Truckin into the Other One and then into Sing Me Back Home. And we had a little WRS tease in this show.

On to 5/25/72!

Oh and when will that box be announced??

I saw a post last week they will be doing a MUATM this year.!

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Yes, I noticed that too. On to the second set of 5/25 for me.

Have a good day everyone...

I guess we should set up a go fund me for GOGD.. clearly he has not been able to make his $6 bail..

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The better of the two shows. The second set is sublime..

Hope you all are having a good week.

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Enjoyed 5/25 as well. Nice Good Lovin, The UJB ,Wharf Rat, Dark Star into Sugar Mag are really good.

Of the four Lyceum shows 5/26 is my favorite. I won't hit that one up today as I need to change it up a bit.

Moving on to Kezar today Jim? They have the reels for this one now after the ABCD transaction, I hope it comes out at some point.

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Yes to Kezar.. agree on 5/26, but I hit this one up about a month ago. Plus.. a good bit of it was released with E72.

I haven't listened to Kezar in years, so it will be a good listen.

Our go fund me to get GOGD out on bail is up to $4.50.. so we only need a buck and a half to get him out of prison on six dollars bail. Things should pick up a bit here when he's back.

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Put me down for a $1.50 Jim.

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72 (listened a year or two ago)
73 (listened over the past weekend +)

95 (my final in-person GD show)

here's another $1.50, JiminMD

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My brother went to this show, he saw Garcia and Peter Grant ( The pedal steel player on Aoxomoxoa), standing on the side of the stage watching Ralph Mooney, the pedal steel player in Waylon Jennings band play.

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The sports guy for a local Bay Area TV station has been reporting from the "vinyl room" at his home during Covid. He has albums lining 2 walls that he changes out every day.

I couldn't help but notice the absence of a certain San Francisco band that people seem to like around here. Just figured they weren't his cup of tea.

Wrong - check this out (scroll until you get to the panel under the 10:53 PM marker, then play). Get ready to hit the pause button after the ads to check out his display!

https://archive.org/details/KTVU_20210526_050000_The_Ten_Oclock_News_on…

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At the time I was a teenager having a ball in 'Swinging London' (some parts of it were still Swinging in '72) and lucked into a job with Apple Records as a general gofer which put me right in the middle of the London music scene. Just for added fun I had a part-time job at the Marquee Club three nights a week. With a girlfriend who worked for another record company and a flatmate musician working with a music biz management team you can imagine I was never short of some live action.
I had been to the first of the Wembley shows in April '72 and dug it enough to look forward to the Dead's return in May. Now it gets a bit vague regarding dates but I had tickets for one of the Lyceum shows which was even better than the Wembley gig. But then the next day at work one of the Beatles' resident chauffeurs (either Alf or Lou, they were both usually around) happened to mention if anyone wanted to go see the Dead that night he had an invite he could pass on; I think I remember there was a connection to Don Murfitt who was known around town for security at the major shows and would have been known to the Beatles' entourage. I doubt there were many Deadheads at Apple at that time but I jumped at it and went along for the second night in a row.
Except this time I had to report to the backstage door with a message for someone on the crew; I can't remember the secret password but it got me in with a right royal reception and was promptly invited to lick the back of the hand of one of the crew which I duly did although the girlfriend declined. From there on this Deadhead was in heaven for quite a few hours tripping on the best acid I ever had and marveling at the night sky as the theater had a giant sliding roof that opened which seemed entirely the thing to do for Dark Star.
Somewhere around two in the morning, the Dead were still playing but the girlfriend was getting bored and demanded to be taken home; being the true gent I was (still am) I insisted on taking her across town in a taxi and then took same taxi home, the total cost of which was equal to a weeks' wages back then (she was hot though, worth looking after for sure).
But it was all worth it.
I can't honestly remember which two of the four nights I attended but I do know I was never quite the same after.
Anyway, I now live in Australia and much water has passed under many bridges. The girlfriend was eventually replaced with an even hotter one (that I married) and my career took a turn from the music business to the motor trade leading to working on race cars until I retired to the beach but I have all four Lyceum shows to listen to over and over and am still out there enjoying every second.
So if I still say I consider the Europe '72 shows are my favorite period of my entire GD collection you will understand there is good reason.
Thanks guys.

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Thanks for sharing @Chris Martin, that's great stuff.

Anybody else instantly think, "I wanna help Chris figure out which of the 4 shows he was at." ?

I couldn't help thinkin' that.
Would love to hear more about backstage scene and how that all went down.
What a trip!

Far out.

Bolo's tellin' us to watch the sports guy for some epic glimpses of SF's favorite hometown band memorabilia.

And May '72 is in the air.

Good to be back in town catchin' up on what's been goin' down.

Don't tell me this town ain't got no heart...

Sold for a buck & a quarter.

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Very cool story.. made my night just to read it.

GOGD.. good to see you back.

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Wow! What a story. Can't imagine what it would have been like to be in London at that time in 72. Great stuff! But wait, you left before the show was over? Okay, I can understand, you had a good reason.
Thanks for sharing.

Good to hear from you GOGD.

Kezar 73 is still top stuff. A few audience patches throughout, but the recording is great. Official release when it comes out will be even better.

Everybody hang loose.

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Chris-great review - sounds very special. I also left a Dead show in London early due to a fed up girlfriend on 10/31/90.
I'd do it again, too. Must be something in the water.

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How about 7/7/89?

July 89 is as good as Bobby says it was. Such high levels. You could even watch this one on Video if you have it.

I believe Keithfan was in attendance.

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great show

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Ha, sportscasters name is Ibanez!

Chris, great story!

5/21, 22, 23/82: did the run, The 21st seemed a tad tame for a Friday, but the Sunday was more like a Friday! All good shows, but I thought they got better progressively...really liked Sunday, Rocking!
5/25/72: don’t have all,of the 24 and the streaming offerings were lacking so went with the 25th, which was nice...72 Dawwwkk, Stawwww!

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"wahh! I'm bored! sacrifice your happiness for me! I don't care if you bought the tickets and we invested time and energy and money and anticipation! wahh! I wanna go home!"

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Re leaving the Lyceum gig while the Dead were still playing, I have three excuses:
1 - I had been to the show the night before and having a regular day job too even I was burning the candle both ends.
2 - She was a red hot babe and I thought I was in love so yes, I always gave her what she wanted (even walking out on the Dead) but she was worth it.
3 - At that age it did not occur to me that I might have to wait two years until they came back - Alexandra Palace September '74 - so leaving early did not seem like a crime.
The really strange thing was when I got home - about 3am - I was still tripping and I leaned out the window of my apartment in Finchley which is about 9 miles from the Lyceum and I was sure I could hear the band still playing. Whatever I had heard earlier that evening the acid made sure the show went on in my head for quite some time after.
Anyway, as I said I did not buy the tickets, it was a free pass and I doubt I missed much after 2am, I think the night before they finished soon after 2ish, maybe 2.30, but yeah, lesson learned I don't think I took her to see the Dead again.

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GOGD asked what was it like backstage? Well allowing for the fact that this was nearly fifty years ago and my memory may not be completely unaffected by the intake of various substances over the years but some details I do remember. I was told to report to the door at the back of the stage, which I did, I think it was red but I can't remember if it was open or did I have to ring a bell? Someone let us in, I guess I must have said who sent me or something similar but I was immediately made welcome like an old friend. I do clearly remember the door led directly to the back of the stage and I was immediately aware of a large scaffolding frame right in front of me towering up to the roof which was filled with speakers. The area was mostly in darkness but I was sure I saw most of the band hanging around, and several of the crew seemed busy running around although as this was not the first night of the four night run (I was there the night before too) I doubt they would have had a lot to do setting up the gear. It was one of them who told me to lick his hand. Certainly the Dead must have traveled with their own supplies and it was the real deal, it took effect fairly soon after and lasted all night, clean and clear with no downside. Whoever it was who let us in asked if we wanted to stick around, I think there were a few flat wooden benches behind the stage, and drinks and smokes were being passed around but we would not have been able to see the band on stage from there so we were let through a side door to the main auditorium.
As for what nights I attended, I really could not say. I do know they were two consecutive nights and I had to go to work the next day after both so that rules out the 26th which was a Friday (I did not work Saturday). I would probably have been eager enough when tickets went on sale to have bought for the first night (23rd) so the next would have been the 24th but that is only guessing. It could have been 24th and 25th. I have all four CDs just to be sure I have the ones I was at and they all still sound great, but having been to other shows and after all this time I can't honestly remember what they played or maybe more relevant, what they left out. New Riders of the Purple Sage were on the same shows and there was a lot of waiting around between sets so probably the Dead did not start playing until very late.
One thing I should be ....ahem...."Grateful" for is that with hindsight many still think Europe '72 saw the band at their best and certainly on the evidence of the recordings available they were on top form.

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This show has a great flow to it. That Box of Rain still gives me chills.
Finished up the last part of the show on DVD. Wish we had more shows on DVD.

Who has a pick for today? Bob t?

I don't think we will see a box announcement until August, but hey at least they released the Garden Club???
I remember when this site was packed with music.

Enjoy it.

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with checking out shows I’ve never heard, 5/12/74. A lil 74 goodness for a Fri- day!
Perhaps later, 3/25/83 depending on chever way?

Hopefully Doc will lead us all on more 71 adventures Saturday and Sunday?

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A great show. I like energy of the close to the first set.. say from Memphis Blues through Blow Away.

I'm all in with OroB's lead. Either show is fine. 5/12 is the windy show where the stacks of speakers over Bills head were swinging wildly and it freaked him out. They changed the setup going forward. I can see why it spooked him.
Sometime I want to draw us back to an earlier time... something off the beaten tracks with a good Smokestack or School Girl.

It's raining here, but we need the rain. Lots of vacationers starting to show up and fill the town. Rivers are running.. what's a guy to do?

Happy Friday everyone. Do something extraordinary.

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How about some gardening?

while you wear your pretty little apron, listen to 5/12/74. You'll be glad you did.

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5/12/74 ✔️ Interesting sequence in the last set, good sheeet mon. Overall perhaps not top 74 tier, but a fine show though the version I went with was not...

3/25/83✔️ Strider recommended so I had to check it out. Good energy, Bob even comments at some point about hopefully we can keep it going....first H-S-F, good set list, but again, the tape got weird for part of it....

So I was going to hop on the Doc train and go with 5/29/71 today, but I drank some cider and now I feel funny?

Chris - thanks for sharing that very cool story. that's some sweet happenings

Jim - thanks for suggesting that Lyceum run. had not really been on my radar compared to many of the shows on the continent. total eye opener. a magnificent 4 nights.

Senator Oro - spring '83. early on I had clean board of 4/17 Set II. It is smoking from the opening notes of H>S>F. great great tape.

DV - will have to check out 7/7/89. I was elsewhere during most of that year.

glad all it took was a $6 to spring GOGD from the pokey.

someone mentioned Fox Atlanta 5/18/77 I think (PF?) seemed like Set I was a pretty slow pace for that tour. High Time might be the slowest I've ever heard. Something seems to "change" in Estimated and holy moly the eyes of the World that follows is fantastic with an expansive opening jam by Jerry and beautiful soloing between verses. gorgeous.

finally had a mind meld with DaP 38. had been spinning it in my car for awhile - pretty okay but a bit sharp. But one evening relaxed and with Sennheisers it was like the mix totally changed - unbelievably smooth and sweet. Curious if I'll be able to find that spot easily again. I do think there are a couple of somewhat rough patches that may have come from another show - Bobby's guitar jumps from right to dead center for brief periods.

enjoy the weekend and be safe everybody

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Damn that “cider” was strong! ; )
Just starting to feel right again, phewww
Another fine show. Perhaps not quite the Thunder of the years previous shows, but there’s some cool, almost DS like exploring during some of the out jams, I guess particularly TOO...
More of the laid back home town vibe versus the coke induced overdrive of some of the east coast shows.
Did the Aud for most of the first section, and the CM SB for the rest.
Both are flawed but I didn’t mind the Aud, back in the day we would have been happy as it’s got a good mix etc, and though it has Winterlands unique room coloring, it’s not bad.
The SB was mostly good but had some level/distortion issues.
These 71s are growing on me.
Onto 5/30 today.

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The famous cider show at Winterland.

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Another fine Lil 71 show. Didn’t have the cool jam of the previous but a solid show except for shug megs, ouch..
Good helping of pork, pass the napkins please, including a somewhat rare but nice Rub, and a spicey LL.
Cool little Dew in the first, And!,... it’s got a Cumberland!
Tapes were similar to the 29th: Aud for first section, SB for rest. The Aud was worse though than the previous, and I almost didn’t listen, but wanted to hear this at least once. Like most, eventually I was able to get past it and entrain with the music, but it suffered more from venue sonic anomalies than the previous night. The SB was mostly good, perhaps an occasional clipping instrument, but usually short duration.
Ok, hopefully we’ll see Doc (and Strider ; ) here on the 21st!

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but the cider was strong..

A bit behind having made the best of a strong holiday weekend. I was dependent on waterproof, bike and river devices for much of my listening this weekend.. which do not get updated based on this thread very often. I did find myself once again enthralled with 5/23 and 5/24/1969 a week after it's aniversary. I have to admit though.. hearing disc 2 into disc 3 you get a He Was a Friend of Mine, Death Don't Have No Mercy and Morning Dew almost back to back.. I was thinking, is something really bad just about to happen to me? So I had to switch it up a little and fast forwarded into the 80's for the end of the weekend.

I might re-hit William and Mary this week too. I only had one decent listen of that one since it came out.

Hope you all had as good a weekend as you could. What's the show du jour?

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is thing on?
Mornin’ Jim,
Did 7/25/74 for the first time yesterday.
Nice little show, would make a good Dave’s.....

Was thinking of continuing on with my quest for unheard shows, and specifically 4/9/83.
Been digging spring 83 lately, especially some of the awesome Auds!

Ooops, sorry PF, you weren’t there before lol

Sounds like a plan. I am in a 76 mood today.. so there's that.

As for 4/9/83.. happy to do that one. I was there. I might have to conjure up a tall tale from the cobwebs of my failing memory.

I tried to bring to life the next night a few weeks ago. If you have ever seen both venues (Hampton and Morgantown Coliseums), the are remarkably similar. In the right frame of mind, you might mistake them or UFO's (or are they)? I did miss 4/10 which is silly because it was closer to where I was living at the time. Morgantown is the closest 'city' to where I live now, I have a soft spot for the Mountaineers.

I am only seeing the second set that circulates for this show, at least through Relisten. Would love to check it out. And 83 is always worth a listen. Thanks guys.

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I did Morgantown back when it came up as I had a tape bitd and was interested. Couldn't remember about it, perhaps good show, not so good tape? I did remember "the girl with lobotomy eyes" comment!
Heard a great ayd version this time around!
Been there a few times, some wild stories considering we were there to visit the "20 year olds" grandma...but never saw the dead there.
Heard this opening night Hampton was good, and it seems to be.
I'll try for 76 later...

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Doah, dbl time...

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Aside from a 20 minute appearance at the Human Be-In on January 14, 1967, I always thought 11/10/1973 was my first "official" Dead show. I recently had the opportunity to go through some of my late brother's belongings. Lo and behold, I found a ticket stub glued to a piece of paper with a caption - First Dead concert with "Bolo" (name changed to protect the guilty). I was floored for two reasons: 1) that he would keep something like that - not his nature, and 2) that I would have been wrong all these years.

So, in memory of my big bro', I propose 12/10/1972 for POTD on Thursday. Caveat: a big chunk of set 1 is missing, but the rest is pretty sweet.

R.I.P. brother

And so it is. Great story Bolo. I will fly my freak flag half mast.. and hopefully enjoy Thursday's show to the fullest.

I will be sure to play the good parts extra loud.

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My second show and the first one we travelled to. We had tickets, our plan was simple.. get to the show and get in.. then find someplace really cheap to sleep or drive East and sleep on the beach.

The show features the East Coast breakout of Help on the Way/Slipknot!/Franklin's Tower, played just twice earlier in the spring since the fall of '77. Great China Rider to close first set, high energy and good for the era. The other thing that stands out to me is how fresh the new material sounds. West LA, Brother Essau are Throwing Stones are just finding their place. A super fun and high energy show.

We ended up driving East without much of a plan and played on the beach till the sun came up magically without drawing any attention to ourselves.. then crawled back to this dive in either Va Beach or Newport News, I cannot recall.. the dive we slept in was called the Strawberry Motor Lodge, which I am sure is long gone by now. There might have been rain or mist involved too.. it was Spring, perhaps colder temps but somehow we made it to dawn outside before retreating for a couple hours sleep and the drive home. We should have just headed to Morgantown for the next show.

So ended my second show. My only birthday show and it might have been my only Satisfaction. I think I caught another Smokestack (maybe).. All in all a fun little show.

That's about all I can remember. There must have been something in us that made us want to stay up all night... my guess is fungalificaiton but all these years later I cannot be sure of anything.