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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 19, 2021 - 12:03pm

#1361

Oroborous

Joined:
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38 production issues cont....

Wow, lol, this is all over the place.
I’ve tried twice to go through with the intention of noting precise instances with pad and paper, but didn’t because I didn’t want to waste a whole day on this but it obviously needs to be done lol. The situation is the boss!
It’s a dirty job but somebody needs to do it, so guess that’s what I’m doing today lol.
First, a few reply’s in an attempt to clear some things up or perhaps get more of us on the same page?

- FIRST THE SOUND: there is nothing wrong with the “sound” of this, it’s some kind of production anomaly that hurts the “sound”
- THE LEVELS TOO HIGH: I don’t believe this is the problems since the peak level is at -1db, which is perfect. You’ll notice on discs that are over mastered set at 0db with hard compression to make them LOUDER. IMHO this style of mastering is obnoxious and sucks! There has been much discussion on this the last ten years or so about this elsewhere if your interested. I stopped buying “remastered” stuff after getting some Floyd and Stones Some Girls since they sound like shit. All their doing is compressing the hell out of the mix to make it louder, but that ruins the dynamic range, which is one of the most important elements of good music I.e., see the GD! Luckily, the GOGD folks don’t do this!
- BAD COMPRESSION: sometimes if the recording levels were too low there can be a bad signal to noise ratio. You’ve all probably heard this with a beloved tape that you have to turn up extra loud to hear, which then makes tape noise and hiss super noticeable. BITD sometimes folks would use a compressor. This cuts off some of the level peaks but boosts some of the quieter sounds, hopefully making the ratio of noise to sound more tolerable. But there are limits to how much you can use this method without causing hard compression or limiting which can cause the processor to distort.
This is referring to all analog too, digital is even more unforgiving about clipping etc. I wouldn’t think they’d use this methodology on a distributed piece of professional work, but it could be possible? If they wanted this show released bad enough and the tape was noisy...? And/or If they felt that the vast majority of people would never notice it, who knows?
- TYPICAL 73: agree, besides these issues, and perhaps some differences in the mix I.e., Bob is really nicely present, this sounds very 73...
- THE MIX: this is not the mix. Whatever your feelings are on the mix, that isn’t the problem
- THE USUAL: yes there are the “usual” “dropouts”, “unevenness”, etc, but none of these or the usual stuff people comment on, are the problem, this is different. In all my years I’ve never experienced this!
- WASHY: not sure what that means, but I doubt that’s it either. Washy sounds like more of the “normal” idiosyncrasies found on 50 year old non professionally recorded tape.
- WOBBLY: : same with this, not sure exactly what is meant as I’ve never heard it used in professional audio terms before lol, but I’m guessing it’s same as above in that it’s a “normal” item that occasionally is noticeable? If it’s meant in regards to variable tape speed issues, that is not the problem we’re referring to here.
-“IN THE BEGINNING”: this problem has nothing to do with the often occurrence of the mix taking awhile to be dialed in by the mixer etc.
DARK-STAR: though there is definitely a clipping factor here, I can assure you it’s not due to amplifier clipping. My MC 601 mono blocks have circuitry to prevent clipping, plus, I don’t push them that loud. That’s the whole point of having 600 watt amps, headroom! It’s all about phat tone, not volume! I don’t like super loud anymore, so I find around 90 db peaks or so at the listening position of about 7-8’ is plenty loud. At that volume, the amp meters usually are registering 60 watt peaks, so no where near clipping.
I’m curious what you mean about your equalizer “evening” out the sound besides the eq? I’m assuming you have some kind of limiter in the unit? I’m curious what unit your using? EQ itself has nothing to do with this problem.

A little info on EQ though: it is usually used for 1 of 2 reasons; professionally, it is used as little as possible to tune a room, like a studio or dedicated listening room using sophisticated analyzers and testing equipment.
The second general use is for preference; the way many of you use it to suit your personal taste influenced by the gear, and speakers/headphones your using. It is also used similarly to mix individual sources for live and recorded music. Though live EQ is also used for room issues, it is more often used to “color” sound to preference, not to make things accurate. Whole nother thing there that the reader can look up about accurate vs “good” sound...
But research increasingly shows that phase/timing issues are the biggest negative factor on sound and unfortunately EQ can cause unwanted phase issues. If you ever wondered why Mickeys studio stuff is the gold standard it’s because he doesn’t use EQ but instead painstakingly uses appropriate mics and mic placement. If you must use EQ, you should try to cut prominent frequency’s instead of boosting others. Like turn down the bass versus turning up the treble. You should never boost if possible. The little op amps in the knobs were not intended to be used as amplifiers, but that’s what your doing when you boost! Sorry, I don’t explain this stuff vert well. So if your having to boost all those upper frequencies, no offense, but you might have bad sounding speakers and/or significant hearing loss, something more common in us older folks than most might be aware of. Like you could have hearing loss and not even realize it unless you get tested! Of course all that really matters is if your happy with your rig, no matter how much or how little it costs etc, the only thing that matters is if your happy with it!
- SMALL BATCHES: I disagree that it’s not possible for damaged small batches. Yes their using the same master, that’s why it’s called a master, but that doesn’t mean that batches of blank/raw discs couldn’t be flawed or that somehow a setting got changed during the master transferring. I don’t think it’s the former but could be the latter?
It could be something as esoteric as there were weird power issues on the grid at the plant during part of the run? Again, I don’t think that’d be the case as any real professional facility would have isolated, professionally treated power, but it’s an example of the many weird things that can happen with electronics and electricity that most folks have no idea about.
HOW PEOPLE ARE LISTENING: what your listening on may well be a factor if your not hearing it, but I doubt this is caused by what your listening on. This is definitely a production issue, either on the original tape, or during the subsequent production.
I’m still wondering if they ever used a limiter and/or compressor on the original recording? It would make sense to have one since Kidd et el can’t be sitting there the whole time riding the mix like that. These guys had other responsibilities, so to ensure that something/someone doesn’t occasionally clip the recording, using a soft limit could smooth out those occasional peaks. But there are limits to this (no pun intended), if someone turns up significantly louder, it’ll still clip and can cause audible distortion by overdriving the limiter/compressor etc.
This to me would explain the phenomena. If your sharing a unit via a aux mix on a mixing console, that means everything, all sources potentially get bussed through that unit. If the unit isn’t set just right, any time anything engages the unit, there could be audible artifacts caused by this. That’s why I think this may be it, since it’s not effecting only one source, and it’s not everything all the time. It’s effecting most sources but not all the time...

LOL, being such an audio nut, not knowing what’s going on is more annoying to me than the actual problem, though I think it’s bad enough that I’ll need to look into replacements. It is definitely very interesting, at least to this geek!
Anyway, I’ll go through song by song and document as much as I can and report back.
May 19, 2021 - 11:23am

#1362

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

GD, zits and all

play on
play on
play on
May 19, 2021 - 11:02am

#1363

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

A Sound Technician Walks Into A Bar…

Jeffrey Norman walks into a bar, and orders a beer. The bartender takes one look at him, and says, “Ok!! But I don’t want to hear any problems from you!!”
May 19, 2021 - 10:27am

#1364

stillwaters

Joined:
August 30, 2012

To All Those With Issues Regarding The Sound

Please read the caveat emptor for Dick's Pick's.

We now return to our regularly scheduled program.
May 19, 2021 - 9:45am

#1365

dreading

Joined:
January 17, 2018

AJS

I hear some loud hi-hat in places. Like the beginning of Jack Straw. If you get a chance can tell me if you hear the same kind of loud symbols on the "Big Railroad Blues" on PNW boxed set June 24, 1973 Portland? I sure do.
May 19, 2021 - 8:51am

#1366

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

Sir James

That is pretty much what I currently have.

About 6-7 years ago, I was looking for a new car. Well, new to me. Buying a new car is one of the biggest rip-offs known to mankind. You are much better off purchasing a slightly used one for a 1/3 or more less. Anyway, I went about my search by bringing a copy of DaP1 to the dealerships. The whole point was that since I spend so much time in the car, I wanted a nice sound system. I would simply turn on the car and listen to the music. After a minute or so, the salesperson would ask if I was ready for a drive. "Not needed" I would reply to a perplexed look. "Thank you for your time." Most wanted thousands more for an upgraded sound system. I wound up going with Acura because the sound was excellent and the price was significantly lower.
May 19, 2021 - 8:18am

#1367

KeithFan2112

Joined:
August 6, 2014

Ha!

Jim, you had me at "There is really only one solution". I sensed some chortle-worthy shenanigans on the way.

Awesome Version Alert -

My favorite part of Casey Jones is the finale where they repeat the chorus a bunch of times and everyone joins in and plays "denser" I guess you would say. The combo of Pigpen's Hammond, Jerry and Bobby laying it on thick, and Keith's piano gradually building in tempo - it's just fantastic on this night.

I think Pigpen was really wielding that Hammond with some exceptional skill at that point. Never flashy, but he could play fast at need, was always on time, and always picked his spots with musical know-how. That was quite a period when they had both Keith and Pigpen playing together.

Edit - whoops - would help if I provided a date - 5/18/72. I'm still rummaging through that show.
May 19, 2021 - 8:04am

#1368

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

lol moment last night

went to bed early
had my phone on archive 5/13/83 set two
she comes up later
I am asleep
Space is full steam
She hisses: "THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!! THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!!"

uh, ok. I'll just turn it off....
May 19, 2021 - 7:51am

#1369

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: AJS

Clearly you need the Wall of Sound Mobile Edition T (C) (R).

https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/382735668306627856/

Pimp up your ride.

(......honey, I got us a new car!)
May 19, 2021 - 7:45am

#1370

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

Follow up

So, I listened to the release in the car this morning. Now I am more baffled by the fact that most folks can't seem to hear the distortion. The best way I can describe it, as I stated in my initial post, is that the cymbals are way to high in the mix. It's quite a nuisance. I also recant my earlier comment on the problem not being on the 9/7 release. It is very evident on HCS. Hell, even our dog can hear it.

It's a shame because it detracts from an otherwise fine release.

John Perry Barlow

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Scored Billy Strings tix for Vegas Sept 4th....

....$65. No brainer.

Last names & Seattle

Proudfoot - I was only goofing on my last name. It’s actually only 5 letters, of Irish derivation, but amazing how often it gets misspelled or mispronounced, so I went with Dave Watson, because I knew he’d like the autograph, and it’s an easy name to spell.

Burnsy - Glad to hear you are getting pumped for the Kraken! I’m trying to get Proudfoot hooked on Kraken, too! You are very right about the Seattle Metropolitans winning the Stanley Cup, but I didn’t know about the Spanish Flu putting an end to them, that’s really interesting,. Also kind of weird how we are 100 years later, battling the Kung Flu, and here Seattle hockey rises from the ashes… (cue: music)

Mr Ones: You sold me on The Third Mind, too! I had purchased stuff from their company before - Yep Rock - so I’ll likely order from them, or Bezos if I have other stuff to get. Played them on YouTube (loved the Fred Neil tune), and you weren’t kidding - really spacey stuff, but great jams that go places, not just meander. Thanks for the recommend!

That Mike/Humble Celebs

Mike, that's actually not me on Amazon recommending The Third Mind. I got my copy from the local record emporium. And for the record, I am a Capitals fan, so I have 47 years of sucking/choking/repeated disappointments Etc.(plus one Cup!!)
I was in the music selling business for 22 years, mostly retail, but also mail order and wholesale. I got to meet dozens of musicians, most of whom were truly nice and down to earth. The absolute most humble and easiest to talk to were Steve Miller, Al Green, Alice Cooper and Peter Gabriel.
The biggest dick(and if you read his book, you'll understand) was John Fogerty. I truly love his music, but he was the whole ass.

Fogerty

Mr Ones - That’s cool you got to meet all those musicians, and even better that they were good dudes. I’m not surprised about what you say about John Fogerty - I read his book, and thought this guy has a major ego issue, then I saw him on a solo tour, and he is laying into Jerry and the Dead like they were a bunch of out of it weirdos, which I thought at the time really blew. Who gets on stage and does that!? A-hole.

As for the Caps, I went to see them the play their first season, 1975(?) when they won like 12 games or something, so bad they made the Leafs look like giants. The upside? They are way better now, and always in the mix. Just a bit of a choke come playoffs, but a hard team to take down.

A quick sour note on fogerty

At The R'nR HOF Dinner for CCR's induction, Fogerty told the Foudation he wouldn't accept the award or perform if other band members were involved, which of course included HIS OWN BROTHER!!! They had to sit like idiots in the crowd as he went and accepted and then did a medley of CCR with other musicians, Springsteen included...Screw him, Screw the Foundation for caving in...and screw Springsteen and all the othe musicians who helped this slimeball behavior...And so Stu Cook and Doug Clifford had to sit there and eat it in front of the industry...

Oops ...edit job...Stu & Doug did go onstage for the award but were not allowed onstage for the Musical performance...Tom had passed away a couple of years earlier and the Brothers were on bad terms when he passed...

I might've mentioned this before...

But this Saturday the 21st being Record Store Day I see listed Paris 5/03/72 Olympia Theatre being offered as a six LP box...
https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/13626

Washington Capitals....

....beat Vegas in the Stanley Cup finals in 2018. I'm not too mad, because Ovechkin deserves a cup. Just wish they didn't put Tom Wilson's name on it. Guys a POS.

And speaking of RSD 2021

The killer three LP trilogy, "Chicago: The Blues, Today!" will be released also this coming Saturday...a mid 60's release on Vanguard that was da chit for us kiddos hankering for da blues!!!

https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/13659

too bad about JF

I love CCR.

but to treat people like that...laaaame.

Chicago Blues Today/ Nappy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2qgTkeNPuw. Killer l.p. Nappy, knockout version of Rocket 88 with James Cotton. I met him over in Santa Cruz one time at The Catalyst, he was super cool , reall nice guy, one of my favorite harp players.

And now for something completely different . . .

Grateful Dead chatter! (instead of hockey talk) :)

The past four months I made my first "serious" foray through the two Spring '90 boxes. I had dabbled before, but had never done the complete shows in order. I gave myself tons of time, knowing that there was no way I could do the tour on its anniversary dates. I heard some playing that really excited me, but was surprised at how much of the best material had been released before the boxes came out. March 15th and 24th were already out there, as was the Scarlet-->Fire from 3/22, as well as the most interesting songs from the 25th and 26th. And the Branford material had been available in high-quality bootleg formats forever.

What I'll likely do is make some compilations (gasp!) of the best of the rest, as I cannot imagine that I'll listen to every moment of that tour again. The first show (3/14) is a burner, and will be cranked in totality again, but I'll probably make some "shows" culled from many shows' highlights.

And I'm officially done with "Victim". I'm hitting 'Skip' on that one for the rest of my listening years . . . :-O

Dead Day RFK 6/10/73

Listening to this one today for the anniversary. Pretty good soundboard. I've never listened to the whole thing, only the Dark Star and Bird Song. I've decided I can't wait any longer for them to release this. I usually try to wait for the big shows to be officially released so that I can hear them for the first time with the "Full Norman" treatment.

I'm officially (finally) annoyed with the website. I decided what the heck, I'll submit my story of when I got on the bus for that Deadcast promotion they have going. It says you can write up to 250 words, but it stops letting you type in the box after 250 letters. The irony is that I considered submitting my story a couple of times and said nah, don't feel like it. So I finally gave it the thumbs up and typed 250 of the most interesting letters I could think of, and then kablam - no more typing allowed in the box.

Vguy good export / import joke - almost as good as the ahem...two religious leaders who get pulled over by the police.

Jimbo - you're 6'4"? That's some height I wish I had. I just figured everyone here was 5'9" like me.

Sixtus - happy birthday dude. You love June '76! Just wait until tomorrow's 6/11 show, which I assume is your favorite in the box.

gotta hear 6/10/73 again soon

this summer

if they announce it as the next Daves (hahahahahahahahaha), I will wait. Otherwise...

years ago I listened to it lysergically on a cassette walkman walking around Seattle's Green Lake.

WOWOWOWOWOWOW. That was a special time.

Keithfan/ Sixtus....

....I am also 6'4". Not always the greatest though. Was running late for work the other day and didn't pay attention to my garage door opening. Needless to say, there was some blood.
And you remember that joke? That was a long time ago. Good memory!!
Happy Birthday Sixtus! Another trip around the sun completed. Tequila shots all around!!!

RFK 6-10-73

Yep, anniversary of one of my favorite shows of all time. Had to listen again to this today and hoping someday somehow this will be released (sigh...). WE need a miracle everyday.

Alright guys and gals....

....it's almost that time. See y'all on the flipside. 🤞

.

Happy, happy, joy, joy to Sixtus, a Bday and 45 year favs anniversaries to boot!

6’4”, that’s pretty tall! I used to be 6’2” but now I’m closer to 6’....only good thing about being tall was on the floor at GA Dead shows etc!

FAMOUS FOLKS: have met several, have worked in several of their houses (never meet them only their peeps), off the top of what’s left of my head, I’d have to say Rick Danko was always a ridiculously nice guy! Had the pleasure to work with them in the mid nineties and he was always super nice and friendly!
Generally, I’ve found that celebs just like being treated like regular folk, their just people like the rest of you, of course I’m a dog, WOOF!

Go Isles! Sorry to our Mass brethren, just goofing round trying to have fun, no offense meant, though I still hate the Pats and Bs, always dug the Celts and Red Sox though... ; )

I can’t believe the AVS blew that game Tuesday. Now the Knights certainly played hard, and capitalized on opportunities, and they deserved to win, but the AVS coulda, shoulda won that game. Oh well, as Chris Bermen used to say “that’s why they play the game”...think it’s over now...don’t see the AVs going into the fortress and winning, the knights seem more juiced and the force there is just too strong! They needed to take care of business at home...at least it’s been an awesome series so far and the refs haven’t muffed it too much. Well good luck Vguy, it should be another beauty eh!

Sorry to the non-hockey folks, it’ll be over fairly soon and it’s been a tradition here for years.

Phamous pholx

Jesse Jackson
Dan Quayle
Shook hands with Bill Clinton
Bobby McFerrin
Anita Hill

6' 1" myself

Hah kee

Happy birthday Sixtus!!!

1st intermission check-in....

....the fortress is loud AF.
Sorry, not sorry. As oroborous said, this hockey talk will be over in a month.
In the meantime, maybe we can recruit some new hockey fans!
And no. I'm not there. Tix get more expensive as the series go on.

2nd Intermission check-in....

....no words.

It's a final!!!....

....the Vegas Golden Knights are moving on!! So is my blood pressure!! Twas a beauty.
Time to study the Habs. BRB

Golden Knights vs Carey Price

Let’s get the battle started!

VGuy - Your guys did great - a come from behind series against a really skilled team! Impressive.

Dooaahh!

A triple deflection?....the gods have spoken!
Congrats VGUY!
Habs Knights? Could be interesting.
If the knights can sustain the energy, they’ll be tuff to beat.

Viva Lost Wages Baby!

Wait a Minute

What exactly does a triple deflection exactly mean. Do we have three more spies (web builders) then we did yesterday? Is Hockey code for deflections from Russia, through Canada to eventually write shitty code and muck up our website? (edit: Oh, not a triple defection, triple deflection.. nevermind)

Actually I saw that play. It was exactly then that I realized I am doing the wrong drugs to even watch this sport. It's better suited for younger, coke or meth addicted fans. I was watching that play, by god.. and I completely missed the goal. It was only when they slowed down the replay that I was able to see what happened. And in all honesty.. It wasn't until the third replay, played.. eeexxxtrrraaaa sslllss.lllow that I saw what actually happened. Where I come from we call that blind luck aka dumb luck. I guess that's part of the sport. But hey, I hear they plan a lot of GD during games during intermissions. That's good enough for me.

Seriously.. great game, great triple deflection. Congrats VGuy.

6/11/69. California Hall

I hope that Owsle y has a copy of this tape, because I would love to hear it, and hopefully it will be released one day. Owsley was taping all the Dead & NRPS shows at the time, so I dont see why he wouldn't have taped this show. Bears Sonic Journals say they have Dead tapes, so I would like to think that this is one of them.

Triple Scoop Sundae

I'm with you jim,,,, I could care a rat's ass about any sport, but hockey WAY to fast. I just watched that play and yeah at normal speed looked like blind luck to me. Slowmo,,,,, still blind luck :-)

FYI - I don't care if people banter about the hockey games (to a point :-) ), nothing wrong with a flowing conversation among friends about common interest. Yeah Habs???

Back to Dylan.

Sorry for the repeat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KlSXNmHW_8

Sorry for the repeat, but I really, really love this cut. I think I have it set to start at 37 minutes. But start at about 37 minutes for a tune called Nancy Whiskey. Love the tone of this one. I have Joni doing it, meh?!?!

This is the best version I've found over night and I never heard of this song.

Sorry for the repeat.

Musings

Congrats VGuy for what sounds like an otherworldly comeback win in the series for your team. Who knew ICE in Vegas could produce ANYTHING other than liquid???

Thanks also peeps for the Nameday shoutouts and mental projections this way!

Currently spinning 6/11/76 as we all should be, today.

Be Well People!
70-Sixtus

Vguy

Well done and congratulations. Down 0-2 in games and down in the third period of game three against the mighty Avs. Very impressive.

Before the playoffs started, I pledged my allegiance to Canadaland. However, as these events have unfolded, I cannot in good conscience go against your GKs.

As promised, attached is a picture of mom with Alex Tuch. She is (or was) roughly 5'6". He's a big dude.

Sir James. Hockey is a fast sport. Very fast. And the goalies are better than you think. It's not like soccer where the goals are 50 feet wide. It's tough to get the puck past them. That's why you are taught at a very early age to deflect the puck. Your chances of scoring are much better when the shot changes direction. Even more so when it changes three times.

These guys kept me out too late last night

Totally worth it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u4dW9A29SE

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em . . .

I hope my comment about hockey talk didn't ruffle anyone's feathers; I used a smiley face after my comment to indicate the light-heartedness of my intention! :)

Since it IS playoff time, and since I DO live in The State of Hockey, I'll try . . .

Boy, that new kid for the Wild is pretty good, eh?

No feathers ruffled here....

....triple deflections are TIGHT!
Tuch is a beast!

Congrats Vguy

I don't have a horse in this race but your team seems to be bringing you much joy, congrats.

KF you are right it was Dave's Picks 7. I guess I need a title system like you. What do call the others?

Sixtus happy nameday. Thanks for the June 1976 reminder. I haven't given that one a listen since it came out.

What will be the three releases........

I wonder what the 3 releases will be that Dave talked about? Obviously, one will be the box set, if the box set is tied to MUATM, it will probably be an 89, 90, or 91 box with a dvd, or hopefully an Oct 74 box with videos. The other two released, will probably be Bears Choice 50th and Wake of the Flood 50th. I just hope they release full shows for both these releases, a full 1970 & a full 1973 show for both releases.

Three Releases

I think we have to count the 50th of Skullfuck too.. so that plus Dave's Picks and the new box... Wonder what it's going to be???

Three releases...

I agree that Skullfuck 50th is one of the three releases and the box that we all assume is coming is another of the three. I doubt that Dave's Picks counts so the third could well be a stand alone single show release. That could be 3 CDs and a DVD/BR video. Whatever, bring 'em on! Ark ark.

while we talk about tee's

I agree, most vendors have cut back on the quality of the shirt...if someone advertises their probuct as "soft" you can bet it's a paper thin product...here's a vendor I've gotten a few shirts from over the past couple of years and they are all excellent heavy duty cotton...they have a rotating weekly offer page as well as a regular stock selection...I've gotten an Atco 45 label of "Crossroads" by Cream tee, an "East West" LP cover by Butterfield tee and a couple of Zappa and Jimi tees as well...good stuff from the UK
https://www.djtees.com/collections/new-limited-editions?goal=0_afe502c3…

Box

Me thinks box set announcement will come in July and ship September/October. Dave’s subscription typically goes on early bird sale in October/November. It would be impolite to announce the box at the same time.

Sheeesh, for the 15th time!

Nobody listens to me...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f_XTUiNwWnY&feature=emb_title

He specifically says besides this (S&R 50th) and outside of DaP, there will be 3 more releases

Check the video at 11:41

Hopefully the Garden stuff wasn’t one?

6/11/76

Good suggestion. Been doing highlights of the box. Presently listening to 6/11/76 Eyes Of suggestion. Audio on these shows is top notch. The 6/10 Cassidy has some kick-ass drums in there somewhere, I forget which part.

Yeah Vguy, glad to hear the Knights are progressing. It gets harder to watch the longer they're in....

Man I hope the box set is in my wheelhouse.

Oroborous has spoken

bring on the releases, Dave.

Dave?

DAVE?

wtf Dave?

Dave?

PF, LOL

Actually Dave spoke, I just listened ; )

EDIT: “Aaaa, Dave’s not here man”

Behind behind always playing ketsup

Hope all are well. Always reading in chunks and really comment much. Question: How many use talk to text versus my old as typing on an IBM Selectric?

BTK, Simonrob

Love the way you think. Would love that scenario...

Simon hope to send message this weekend, hope all well in your neck of the woods.

who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACfNSqsi_mE

Oroborous

hope all is well, to answer quickly from 2 months back.

Yeah at Buckeye Lake I do actually think I remember you. I only remember a few tapers in front or on side in front of board, but 2 of them being me and then another friend several feet to the left.

Question: I few years ago I posted about to the name, and the person said there are 2 Oro's. Was that true at all or just one. It would be two if, you didnt post about making a ceramic oroborous and then giving that to Jerry when you met him at a restaurant near a show somewhere?

Was that you?
A psychedelic dream?
Speaking of which I recently dreamed I was sitting around talking to Gene Simmons about health insurance. It was a blurred but fiesty debate...

A week or two back someone posted about your dog eating its tail...obviously the name. Have not gone back to see actual post today. To me, it looks like the dog from "A Dog's Purpose." Cant remember the name though.

Sister

Mary Elephant

Bulder CO 6-08-80 Anyone?

The other day I DL'ed an AUD of Folsom Field '80...nowadays I don't often grab AUD's unless it was something I was at...I wasn't at this show but what grabbed me was the 1st Set opener, an Uncle John's Band > Playin' In The Band >
Uncle John's Band sandwich that goes for 20 minutes...tasty start...And sometimes I just enjoy hearing a great AUD on my headphones, especially Ventura shows where I can hear the breeze and smell the ocean...