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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • #1371
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    There is really only one solution. It's a bit complicated.. so hang in there with me. This is what we all need to do.

    1) Get out the credit card with the greatest limit.
    2) Google, select and purchase the new Wall of Sound, Home Edition TM (C) R with this credit card. As soon as the purchase is made destroy this card.
    3) DO NOT TELL your partner/significant other.
    4) Go to the roughest bar in town and tell some raunchy mom jokes to the bouncer. Keep doing this until he pummels you.
    5) Come home and tell your partner / significant other you were mugged and robbed. Tell them all they took was your credit card.
    6) If your partner is suspicious file a police report.
    7) Install the WOS Home Edition in your listening room while your partner is not home. If complaints arise later, amnesia from the head trauma is your response. "honey, I am having trouble remembering anything from that week.
    8) Replay Dave's Picks 38 at high volume.

    Your sound issues are now resolved. Happy listening.

  • #1372
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    The levels are too high

    I mentioned that a while ago, after others had already detected it with headphones.

    I played the CDs twice on my stereo system are did not detect any sound issues.
    Onkyo 6-disc CD changer
    Cambridge Audio receiver
    Onkyo subwoofer
    Bose 301 speakers

    I then imported to computer and made ALAC files for my music players and AAC files to play from a USB flash drive in the car.
    When I played the imported AIFF files on the computer there was extensive distortion through the small external computer speakers.
    The colored bars that show the sound levels (not volume) on the computer audio software were almost hitting red. Clearly too high, but don’t know if that is on the original recording or the result of mastering.
    Recall that on 8-25-72 Norman boosted Phil’s bass beyond what was on the original recording.
    Maybe he boosted the levels for this release.

    I played the ALAC files with an iBasso DX120 music player connected to my Cambridge Audio receiver. Did not detect any distortion or other sound flaws.
    Been playing the AAC files in the car this week and have not heard any issues so far (set 2 started just before getting to work today).

    So, it definitely depends on your system whether you hear the issues.
    Crappy computer speakers sound terrible.
    Apparently a high end system like Oro’s reveals the sound problems too.
    My midrange system sounds good as does the audio system in my car.

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    Upon several listens to these cd's, I concur, this release has a few abnormalities that don't take away from the overall enjoyment of listening to these discs, but they are noticeable and makes me wonder if it was the master tape or was it a mailed in mastering job?
    This has also made me wonder, will the rest of Dave's sound like this? I love me some Jerry right up front, why I'm here, but there should be a better balance of all the players in a band, not just one or two.
    Disappointing? yes, deal breaker? not sure yet, will have to wait and see, but if there is any more killer shows that they do want to release, lets hope that the folks who do the mastering of these ancient tapes does a little bit better job than this release.
    On a separate note, I was privileged to receive a code for the Dead and Company presale going on today at 10 am. Funny, I did not receive a code last tour, not privileged I guess. The price for these tickets is outrageous. A vip guaranteed reserve seat is over 250.00$. That's for one ticket.
    It was fun getting excited like the old days, yahoo, the dead to tour, get your head together, get some tickets, get excited, get ready.....then I realized that those days are over for me. I can go see Billy strings, get a great hotel room, then go to the hot air balloon festival and get to ride on a hot air balloon, all for the same amount of cash. Kinda seems like a no brainer here, twice as much fun for the same dollars.
    I realize that Bobby, Mickey and Billy are getting up there and there won't be too many more tours for them, and I would love to revisit these guys one more time.
    The last time I tried to get tickets and got them, the show was cancelled due to Mayer's appendicitis. I don't want to jinx it so I will pass on this tour, besides, it's just too soon for me to be out there with all those vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Too all those who decide to go, enjoy.

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    I ultimately reached the conclusion that part of the issue is how people are listening. I do not listen on headphones, computer speakers or use any type of equalizer. So far I have not listened in the car. I did try using Dolby on one of our stereo systems, which reduced the noise to a certain extent, but not entirely.

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    That's a fact

    I've been in the record business all my life and agree with AJS. There is almost no way an audio anomaly like what was described could occur on some discs and not others for Dave's Picks. These discs are pressed ùfrom the same master. There would need to be two different master mixes for a subset of CDs to contain an anomaly. I would say the player could be a factor, but Obo ruled that out already. I assume like Jim said we are not counting Bertha because it is uneven for obvious reasons. I hear a decent sounding 1973 show here. The master tapes sound better better than Pacific Northwest but not as good as DaP 5. I don't hear many audio issues at all. I would like to hear what Obo and AJS are disliking. I whipped out the Bose headphones and all I hear is Jerry "shredding". What a night he is having. Weir too. Early on somebody said Keith was gone and that is true. Every once in a while I will hear a section that sounds like a tunnel for 5 or 10 seconds, but they are few and far between. Or Weir will just stop playing like in China Cat Sunflower but he needs to rest sometimes. He played China Cat, HCS, EOTW and Bird Song all in one night ;-)

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    The chances are virtually nil that some defect would have only affected such a small number of discs. Furthermore, it only occurs on the 9/8 show, not 9/7. I am very surprised as well that others are not hearing it.

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    I don't hear it, which isn't saying much. I rip everything to my hard drive as WAV files and run them through an equalizer with a bunch of sound options. "Concert Hall" is perfect for these old Dead tapes, plus I push up the four EQ sliders all the way to the right about halfway.

    That being said Oborious, this sentence got my attention. You say:

    I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.

    This phenomena sounds like something Norman may have done in production. It sounds like a feature I have that prevents clipping at high volume. I am a fan of good sound but no engineer so I will copy the internet definition, which you probably know:

    Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its power rating.

    When I play stuff too loud this feature cuts back on only the parts that are causing the clipping. It is obvious to the ear when this feature on my system gets activated. It sounds exactly like your description where you say 'several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.'

    My theory is that the master tapes Jeff Norman worked with had some hot spots so he used a feature like what I have on my equalizer to "even out" all the levels as he input the music from the master tapes on to a digital storage.

    I am not sure why I don't hear it but I guess my EQ is dressing it up. If I listen to the CD with no EQ it sounds like the treble needs to get turned up all the way. Even then it doesn't sound even close to the quality of the EQ and Concert Hall enhancement. It makes me curious if a lot of people out there listen straight off the CD with nothing 'extra' to improve the sound.

    On a different note I laughed heartily at the quacking duck interview. Well done whoever made that up. It sounds like something Jerry would say.

    And last, I listened to the Dark Star / Morning Dew that KF mentioned on 5/18/72. I don't know how I overlooked that one but it is much better than I remembered. Somehow the Europe 72 Dark Stars never stuck with me. Probably because I rarely play those shows. Only because I want them to be special every time.

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    Great joke.. made my day.
    I wholeheartedly agree.

    Yes.. the sound on 38 is a bit wobbly in the beginning. But isn't that Grateful Dead standard time? It sounds ok by the time they get warmed up.

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    Next up on the E72 anniversary list. What at a great show. And it's Dark Star => Morning Dew night.
    I'm going to go out on limb here and say it's the first time they did this combo. This is one of my favorite shows from the tour. Jerry's guitar is louder than usual (and louder is always better). Crunchy guitars are tight!

    Sugar Magnolia really hits a groove, and Billy has this absolutely ridiculous drum fill at the....drum fill part; I've never heard him play it quite like this - it's like gets a running headstart. Great version despite a classic Bobby lyric miss early on (proof of the weed).

    Jack Straw is great. This is maybe the second one where Jerry sings the Watchman and Tulsa verses, and Bobby forgets it's not his line anymore - so they both jump the Watchman - not a fair fight at all.

    And some great banter after Black-Throated Wind. Jerry always makes me laugh up there. He was the king of one-liners:

    Girl Fan (to Jerry): Lovelight!

    Jerry: Turn on YOUR Lovelight baby.

    Girl Fan: You Turn on yours first.

    Jerry: Oh no, after you...

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    Sound quality on 38

    I was surprised this is the first real discussion about it. I got my copies a week ago, and have made it through the Bonus and Bird Song and Playing as I ripped and converted and had 9/7 first. Also, made it up to Weather Report Suite on the release. The sound struck me as incredibly washy, and while it's great to hear Keith and Bob much more than usual (some releases you wonder if Keith played on much at all from his presence on the tapes, but these are great for Keith fans!), so I just balance that with the cymbal heavy mix. Maybe they were trying new mic placements for the drums. Not Kidd Candelario's best tape by any stretch. He's usually top notch, though. Jai Alai Fronton last year is a phenomenal Kidd tape. That may be my favorite Wall of Sound release for sound quality.

    Also, I'm surprised, or have missed, no reference to the Bonus Eyes ending not with its Slipknotish jam, but ending with a Here Comes Sunshine jam. A fantastic Eyes! Phil with a different start to his solo, and a different feel, maybe reacting to the Wolf darting around? So far enjoying the release and bearing with the sound.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 03:57

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Great reads on the thread today, Ah yes, good old Black Sabbath, I saw them twice, once in 72 and again in 76, what a difference 4 years can make. In 72 they were like a hippy peace band, that was really loud and really rocked hard, Tony just shredded that guitar more than once and Ozzy was all over the stage. No opening act, just a night with Sabbath, real Heavy. Flash ahead 4 years and a totally different band was on stage. The equipment on that night was tightly packed together and over head was a large cross, like an iron cross design, and each band member had a large cross or crosses around their necks. Ozzy was wasted and flopped about like a fish out of water, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath had just been released or was about to be and they played most of that lp with a smattering of hits thrown in, the biggest ovation was when they played Iron Man, of course, but my favorite tune of the night was the wizard, never heard that one live before. The opening act that night was......Peter Frampton. Yeah, I know, what a pairing, but it was awesome. Frampton was good, real good, this was before his big live lp had made it to #1 and he played all those tunes from that lp, he and his band Frampton's Camel I think it was called, were excellent, stole the show. After that, I became a Dead Head and became obsesses with them, still am.
I think you have to go thru several bands before you are ready for the Dead, then it hits you like a ball and chain and you can't believe your ears. Hooked

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 04:30

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Reading the GD article in Uncut magazine I noticed
‘It’s safe to assume there’s a box set announcement for 2021 coming soon’ - DL
Of course my idea of soon may not be Dave’s

Talking of the Europe 72 50th anniversary he’s quoted as saying ‘There are still new and exciting ways to present that music … we’ve been looking at creative ways to get people engaged with that tour again, to make it more accessible in a format we think people are really going to want ‘
Something to look forward to in 2022

Edit It took three attempts to post this plain text message. It only worked when I removed a final exclamation mark.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 05:40

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..but clearly have ill intentions. I couldn't get a post to go either, after much trial and error, it was a dreaded hyphen or perhaps the back slash that did me in. Henceforth and forever back slashes and hyphens deemed as evil characters to never be used for civil discourse.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 06:09

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Yo, rockers!!!

Kcollins1974, check your pm................

Have had no problems with posting things with dots, dashes, question marks, or exclamation points! Probably cuz I paid the ransom................

However, I continue to struggle with semicolons..........

Rock on!!!

Doc
Life is a little like a message in a bottle, to be carried by the winds and the tides.....

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 06:17

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I’m still listening to every 1971 Grateful Dead show on the 50th anniversaries. And can combine the audio with the film. Audio first, then the film.

By the way, speaking of Doc. The other recently mentioned Dock or the Dock Ellis story is fantastic. Thank you Billy the Kid for bringing that to our attention.
Yesterday we had a thunderstorm with almost no rain and winds that must have gusted up to 40-50 mph. Lightning popping in all directions. So around late morning we should be seeing more smokes. I’ve done some wildland fire fighting and fire lookout work when I worked seasonal Forest Service trail work forever and a day. On a side note , no retirement benefits for seasonal federal employees. Maybe that’s been changed in the 20 years since I worked as a “green collar” man. Solo social (in)security is better than nothing. I own my home and am in excellent health. But it all goes to hell with age.
As the Merry Pranksters said;- “Nothing Lasts”.
After posting this by identifying parking meters I think of these two songs, “Lovely Rita” from Sargent Peppers- the Beatles.
And “Don’t follow leaders, watch your parkin’ meters” from Bringing it all Back Home” - Bob Dylan (he said that)

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 08:31

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Strider, same here, dry thunderstorms and high winds, so as of yesterday have a fire 12 miles away!
As of last night, it’s only in National forest and only about 200 acres, but they haven’t given us any updates yet...
With the fuel and terrain between here and there, if the wind changes it could get interesting...
Could see it from bed last night. Pretty wild visuals, almost like a volcano erupting...
Think it was just the flames reflecting off the clouds, not the actual flames, but still, when you can see that from your bed....
Have had temps mostly in the high nineties since last week, which for here at elevation is pretty hot, of course no rain in sight...
And and to think it’s barely summer! Usually doesn’t get like this here until July...

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 08:35

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does this work ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ------------------ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how about a small limmnk

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 08:36

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cuff..... you have to wonder what idiot thought the word linnnnnnnkkkkkk was bad?

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 09:32

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yep, here in the west hot, dry, and what looks to be a long scary fire season. for several days seemed like an early attempt at a monsoonal pattern, lots of lightning notifications on lightning tracker. we even got 15 minutes of rain here in the "lowlands" after a wall of crazy wind and dust out in front of the cell. good luck and stay safe.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 10:00

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For the Mingus recommendation. I haven't picked up any "new" Mingus since the "Jazz In Detroit" 5-disc set a couple of years back. That set was great, but could have easily been 3 discs. No matter, I was tempted to get this new 'expanded' version, was waiting for feedback, which you provided. I will pick this up pronto.

Only 96 hours until "upgraded" Skull and Roses. I'm ready!!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 10:12

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Take solace in the fact that the series is right where it should be. Fleury gave away game three and Lehner literally saved your ass last night.

Should be an exciting game 5.

Good luck.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 10:53

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Somethings off, it’s like the knights are turning into the AVs...
Haven’t watched enough to put my finger on it, but they don’t seem quite the high speed freight train that they were.
Habs been shuttin’ em down in the lanes etc and keeping the shots down just like the Kiniggits did to the AVs...
No worries though if they go back to the fortress and git er done they’ll be in the drivers seat!

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 12:08

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which volume is this? I see rhino has announced a deluxe edition coming next month,,, 3 lps 45 bucks.

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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 13:36

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Not sure about the vinyl edition but I received the 2cd a few days ago. I believe the original was just two long tracks from the jam session of the second set and that this new edition from Carnegie includes the first set which was 75 minutes long.

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 22:01

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Thanks guy. I ordered both from Amazon,,, free shipping.

CD coming instantly,,, lp's are preorder and not released until next month.

I really don't need the vinyl, but Mingus is a giant in the jazz world and thought it be nice to have for down the road value.

We'll see :-)

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 23:30

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Big tunics in two stores

I am looking for a T

High roller, thats what call me

The neon museum = cool

....I opened a bar for men with erectile dysfunction.
It was a total flop. Nobody came.
😁
Proudfoot. You should check out Area 15 while you're in Vegas.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 12:58

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Walking tbrough Planet Hollywood

"GK gear sold here"

One xxl with GK logo, no wording

Just over 30$ with tax

:)))

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:11

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To get that post below to go through.

It’s not even in violation of the new rules.
Can I say ‘rules’ here, or is that banned too?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:16

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I just got brainwashed by Vguy

Kraken is next season

"You could almost think
that youre postin double"

A couple of really good jokes...what are you a comedian in residency?

I think David Zaslav, CEO of Discovery, and an attorney, is trying to figure whether Rhino fits in with his future plans. I know Simon stated a few days back that he was watching the European Football Championship. Discovery owns pretty much all of Europe's sports broadcasting networks and now own's Warner who owns Rhino. He may hate GOGD. Still believe that is what is slowing official news. Shakedown Stream take me away...

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:46

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T-shirt not Jersey?

Still a great price for "official" shirt.

Edit: saw t-shirt ooops

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:46

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Doing some trail work today, a la Strider. Got bit in the lip by some type of insect. Now, my lip is swollen and I look terribly funny. I'm the guy I used to laugh at. Anyway. On the bright side, lots of Dead listening today: 10-21-83, 10-12-84, 4-22-78, 7-31-82- 7-3-88. How's that for a day of Dead listening? I hope the swelling goes down...

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 19:36

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He’s not playing bad, but I have no idea why Fleury started over Lehner. Bad Karma.

The way the GKs are playing, I also have no idea how they beat the AVs.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 21:06

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....believe me I know.

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Submitted by simonrob on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 02:08

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Badkamer. That is Dutch for Bathroom.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 06:18

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VGuy - A real back and forth series, but it’s do or die time now. I will definitely be checking out that next game. Same Bat Station, same Bat Time.

A shout out to Robert Hunter, who would have been 80 years young today. A great wordsmith, a Dylan Thomas for his times.

Fuckers starting to swell...no bueno!

Yes Vguy is our resident comedian, he’s just been on hiatus for the playoffs

I think it’s imperative that PF leaves Vegas ASAP. No fault of his own, but I think he’s brought some kind of bad Seahawks juju with him that is causing the unexplainable demise of the mighty Kiniggits....the flux capacitor must be demagnetized immediately, repeat, demagnetize the FC IMMEDIATELY!

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 07:39

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Yes, Happy Birthday, Robert Hunter! The Grateful Dead would not be anywhere near as fascinating without your contributions.

Joni Mitchell's album "Blue" turned 50 yesterday, and apparently there is a box set with new remasters (and for the first album, a re-mix) of her first four albums coming out in a week. Plus, for those Joni fans, the Archives Vol. 2 box is coming out this fall, containing demos and live tracks from the period covered by the first four albums.

For anyone who hasn't listened to Joni before . . . I envy you! Even if all you did was give "Blue" and "Court and Spark" a serious listen, you would have improved your musical life immensely. :)

Be kind, rewind.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 07:46

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Correction: The Grateful Dead could not have been who they became if it wasn't for Robert Hunter. He was the thought man, the wordsmith, who made them great. Without him? Nothing to catalyze around and nothing for the listeners to truly sink their teeth into, nothing to sing , future uncertain, at best.

Edit: I'm gettin' antsy, wanting to know whether the box announcement will be a pass or fail in my book.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 08:15

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I never saw Joni in concert, but in 2013 she was invited to speak at a New York Times Talks with host Jon Pareles, just prior to a 70th Tribute Concert being held for her by Herbie Hancock et al at Massey Hall. I couldn’t get tix for the musical part (house band had Bill Frisell in it, a favourite), but I got tix for the NY Times talk, held at a small concert hall at the University of Toronto. She appeared with drummer Brian Blade (who I saw a few years later play with Wayne Shorter - WOW!), and it was about a 90 minute talk, and she was quite fascinating. She spoke in depth of her career, how she played coffee houses a block or two away in the 60s, her breakout career in California, her love of jazz, and the art of Emily Carr. She is a fascinating individual, a good songwriter and a very good visual artist. It was a really enjoyable evening, and I got a lot out of it, quite different than a concert. Her health is bad now (she smokes incessantly), but I wish her well, and she was yet another color in the palette that is music.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 09:10

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He is the man.

I think it is own the documentary "From Anthem to Beauty" that Mr. Hunter talks about writing Ripple, To Lay Me Down, and Brokedown Palace in one day while in London with the fellas. I think he said 1970. So is this a on May 25, 1970 when the dead were getting ready to play the The Stand Lyceum in London? Of course this is the day after playing Newcastle-Under-Lyme or Hollywood Festival or Lower Finney Green Farm, Leycett.

Maybe Dogon could help with what the actual title of this venue and festival is. I assume it is just some minor dispute based on land allotment., or something to that effect.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 09:26

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My first two picks after Price are going to be Gallagher and Suzuki. They are not marquee names, but those guys are grinders who do the little things that win games.

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